March 2012 chemo

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  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited June 2012

    Maybe a bunch of us march ladies are hitting the same point, where the energy from the drama (lack of better word) of the beginning of all this has worn off, and this is what we're left with...the reality. Life is different, and will it ever be the same? Will we always have a niggling worry? God, I hope not. I am going to try to live with no worries and take each day as it comes...

  • Januaryice
    Januaryice Member Posts: 120
    edited June 2012

    Wow!!!! It must be the phase we all are at!!! I have felt exactly the same way. Even thought I can't do these last two Taxol. I'm tired of feeling exhausted and having heart burn while being on all these meds. I think some of the problem is that my bad days are out weighing my good ones. In a two week span I probably only have 5 good ones. Sick and tired of wearing scarves and hats all the time!!! I keep trying to concentrate on the fact that I only have one month of this crap!!! Rads next and hope they are much easier and my hair starts to come in.

    You all have been a great help and sorry to say I'm glad that is not only me :))))

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited June 2012

    So my Dad is finally home from the hospital after more than 3 weeks - so finally some good news.  Had my shot today, doing ok, just tired, my nails are getting worse, now started on the left hand.  Not going to be pretty - sucks!  But other than that feeling pretty positive.

    WOOHOO to those who got to ring that bell - can't wait till I can!

    Have a wonderful Friday! 

  • fedfan
    fedfan Member Posts: 44
    edited June 2012

    I thought I would have an easier time this time because I didn't get the Neulasta injection. Well apparently most of the pain has just been from the Taxol because I am hurting all over, not much better than when I've gotten Neulasta...and now I have to make sure I'm extra extra careful because my counts will be lower. I should have just gotten the shot! Oh well!

    I think we all are just so burned out by all of this. We just want our lives back.  

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited June 2012

    Wow, here I've been avoiding everyone because I didn't want to depress anyone. LOL It looks like I would have fit right in.  Sorry everyone is feeling down this week. I thought it was just me.  It seems we are all just getting tired of everything and ready to go on to the next step.  I would prefer to be DONE. But "Baby Steps".

    Keep going everyone, WE CAN DO THIS!!!!

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited June 2012

    Ok, anybody watching Nick Welenda(sp?) walk the tightrope wire across Niagara Falls? I didn't want to watch it, but here we are. Sort of cheesy, but he made this comment about this challenge, getting to the other side, envisioning the other side... Something like that. And watching him do his slow methodical step after step... Now this is a challenge of his own making, but, where my head is, I can draw some parallels...

  • Dianefightslikeagirl
    Dianefightslikeagirl Member Posts: 51
    edited June 2012

    Hi again everyone.. Thank you for your kindness and warm welcomes to this board. I was catching up on some of your posts tonight and gosh it sounds like so many of us are together in this feeling kind of down this week. I am right there with you all. Physically I felt great this week overall, as I typically do going in to a "big" chemo treatment. But emotionally I was a wreck. Just tired of it all. Tired of no hair. Tired of tummy bloating. Tired of my scar. Tired of wig and tired of not being confident enough to go without it! Just one of those weeks. I am trying so hard to be normal and act normal and stay positive, but sometimes as you know it is just hard. I don't want to "share" these crummy feelings with anyone but like someone else said in here, I am glad I'm not alone in these feelings.



    I will keep moving forward, keep my head up and take it day by day. I know we are all strong and will get through this. Keep the faith everyone! We're in this journey together!!



    Hope you all have good restful nights of sleep tonight!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012

    KCB, I have been thinking the same thing, that crisis mode is over and now we are kind of stuck with this, but you stated it perfectly. I did see part of Nick Wallenda's walk across Niagara Falls - thanks for drawing the parallel! I have gotten lazy about visualizing things and I needed that.

    Diane, I feel guilty for being tired of this since I'm just going into my fourth tx. I keep thinking I should wait to get tired of it for at least a couple more txs.



    So I know this is trivial and I should have taken a walk this p.m. instead of primping, but I gave the fake lash experiment another try. My lashes are definitely coming out the last few days, along with my eyebrows. If anybody is interested in lashes that are wearable, not over the top, the Ardell Luckies are the ones. They aren't too long and don't hit my glasses. I found out a nice thick line of dark brown eye pencil gives a guideline and looks good once the lashes are on. My eyes aren't really big and I trimmed the outer edges a bit. Still need to work at getting them on more easily, and I doubt I'll bother to put them on to go to the Starbucks drive through, but wearing them today was fun.



    Hugs and purple energy to everyone, and thanks for being there.

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited June 2012

    I totally agree KCB - it's almost like after diagnosis, I felt like ok this is my purpose now and the most important thing in the world (which let's face it, it was) and now I am starting to realize, ok, life goes on around me and we have to incorporate this into our lives and adapt.

    Indigo - very interesting about the fake lashes - I know they aren't a good idea on a regular basis due to excessive tearing and maybe infection? but I would like to have that option when I lose mine.  Just for special occasions, etc...

    Diane - funny story about wigs...I packed mine for our vacation but after the first night walking around NOLA in it, I stuffed it in the glove compartment of our car most days!  I have about resigned myself to scarves and hats this summer.

    January - I hear ya on the heartburn - that is one of the SE I have noticed being worse this time around.

    Kim - so glad your dad is home!

    lost - never worry about depressing anyone.  Misery loves company. We will all get through this.

    fedfan - boooo on the pain.  I go for labs on Monday and then again the next Wednesday and if my counts plummet, I am going to ask for Nuelasta, even though my SE from it are awful.  I just hate this feeling of thinking I may be housebound due to low counts.

    tc- congrats on your last TX!

    lana - (((HUGS))) thinking about you.

    Michelle - lol on punching people in the face. Every time I see someone, they say "well, you look good" but I have to say I didn't hear that yesterday.  My aunt surprised me by showing up at my house with a casserole and I was NOT expecting her.  So I was in pj pants a camisole and a care cap.  Thank God I had on a bra.  I was so embarrassed!  Since I was feeling so down anyway, when she asked how I was, I nearly started crying - UGH!  

    Still no horrible awful SE from Taxotere...just tired, tired, tired.  I went to bed around 9:30, woke up at least 3 times (despite taking a Restoril), then woke at 7 and should have gotten up then.  But I didn't and dozed off again and didn't wake up until 9:45! 

    Ok, I am going to put the effort into getting dressed and makeup on so we can all go run some errands and maybe go out to dinner.  We have to get out of this house.

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited June 2012

    Dammit! I am running a low grade fever. Very low right now only 99. I am so mad that I didn't insist on the nuelasta.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited June 2012

    kltb- hope that fever breaks!  Drink lots of liquids!

    This is my tired weekend, so I had 2 naps already today, fell asleep on the couch last night for about 3 hours and slept through the night.  SO at least I can sleep and rest up.  Usually day 4 is the worst as far as being tired, so if everything stays on track I should feel "almost" normal Monday - though what is normal with cancer!  

    Hope everyone has a lovely weekend ! 

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012

    Kltb04, crossing fingers your fever went away and/or you got some antibiotics to knock out whatever it was.



    Yeah, my eyes did water some with the lashes on, but they are watering a lot in general. The glue didn't bother me; worst thing is just being fumble fingered. I hope, anyway.



    Kim, so glad your dad is home.

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited June 2012

    kltb- hope the fever is gone and that it was nothing. I like where you kept your wig. Mine stays hanging on a big bottle of laundry detergent on my bathroom sink.

    Indigo-glad you had fun with the eyelashes. I couldn't put them on if I was being forced to.

    Kim- glad your dad is home. I bet that makes him happy.

    We had our yard sale yesterday. Not sure why I thought that was a good idea!  Never again will I mess with it. I was exausted by the time I got home and fell asleep on the couch. Woke up and cooked dinner but was asleep again by 7 then up all night. At least being awake in the middle of the night I got to hear the sound of raindrops on the roof.

     Need to clean house today, but yuck. I will be so glad to be done with the chemo. Now that's it's getting closer to surgery I'm getting more nervous about it. I just keep trying not to think about it but that's not working very well.

     Enough rattling, everyone have a good Sunday.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012

    Lostinmo and kltb04, I had the same nervous feelings about starting chemo! I would lurk and read posts and cry, thinking, omg, it sounds awful, I can't do it.... I know if you can do chemo, you can do the surgery. I'm sure you've both read up plenty on the surgery but if there are any questions I could answer, I'd sure be happy to. I will say it will be 3 months this coming week since I had my surgery and at this point it already feels like such a long time ago.



    I won't ever try to talk anyone into making the choice I did, as far as elective MX on my unaffected side, but I will be glad to explain why I made the choice.



    Someone on my April/May thread posted a link to Kaiser's meditation imagery links (you can listen from your computer or download to an iPod). I'm finding that link-I listened to most of the chemo one before I went to bed last night and it did make me feel better. Something a little new, too, to help counteract this blah feeling.



    Hugs!

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited June 2012

    Indigo- thanks, I will probably have lot's of questions about surgery soon.  I'm leaning towards both being taken.  I keep meaning to ask you..you aren't close to the fires are you?

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012

    Hi lostinmo, no, the fire is north of here, in the mountains near the city of Fort Collins. I live in the 'burbs of Denver and while we have watering restrictions due to the drought, the only real worry I have is that someone will be stupid with fireworks. We so desperately need rain, though.



    I heard and saw the air tankers coming and going yesterday, so that meant the wind had died down enough for them to fly in. Praying they get it under control.

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited June 2012

    Hi Ladies

    I've been reading but havn't posted in a while.  Lots to catch up on!

    Indigo

    I hope you can come to a decision re MX vs BMX.  While I had an MX I did consult with my surgeon about a BMX figuring why not, I'll already be on the table.  He was against it, felt it was unecessary surgery since there was NED in my right.  It is always going to be at the back of my mind though

    KCB

    Love Wallenda parallell

    KLT

    Sounds like you had a nice time away at the beach

    Kam170

    You likely already have your answer but Herceptin is give via infusion (I'm on this train now until the end of December).  Where I am treated its in the same area as anyone getting chemo.  Its nice and fast though, I'm usually out of there within an hour once I get started.

    Yvyc

    We're in the same boat now, H only

    tc9876

    Yoo Whoo to being done with TC!!

    Lana

    I hope you get your questions answered about the rib pain you inherited from KLT. 

    klt

    When will you get your bloodwork done?  I'm curious to see how the counts are without Neulasta.  I did it after each TX but often wondered how I would have been without it too.

    Onvacation

    Glad to hear your Dad is home and doing well.  I had a yard sale last week too.  It was so hot but it was nice to get rid of alot of stuff that was taking up space.

    Dianefightslikeagirl

    Welcome!  This is a great thread with alot of support.

    I hope I didn't missing anyone.

    I'm now 8 weeks PFC and pretty much back to normal from an energy standpoint.  It blows my mind when I think of the last 6 months, surgery, chemo, herceptin, tamoxifen.   I thought chemo would never end yet its all gone so fast too.   I found that for about the firs 3 weeks after though I was still really tired and my muscles would tire really easily too. It was like when walking my legs would be so sore as if I had worked out really hard the day before.  I mentioned it to my MO and he said it could last up to 6 months but it didn't.

    My hair is growing, not as fast as I would like, but its growing all the same.  Hercpetin can slow the growth for some.  The only thing I can think that is helping is the Biotin supplement I take and I just started massaging olive olive into my scalp a couple of days ago.  While the back is filling in faster, I can now feel growth on the top and sides where it was still smooth last week.  It starting coming in kind of white but its now starting to darken up. It will be interesting to see what the actual colour combo comes in as.The lashes are still thin but my eyebrows are coming in as well.  My right really went more bald that my left but its filling in.  Hair is also returning to my legs, pits and nether regions too. 

    I so am despising my wigs right now.  There so bloody hot!!

    I think we're all going to have to deal with PTST at some level during and after TX.  Sometimes I get so pissed off that this ordeal has taken so much but then I try to remember that it could have been so much worse if I wasn't DX when I was

    My family as a whole has been dealing with my 84 year old Mom that we have finally gotten to accept that its time for a retirement home.  She won't live with any of us but she's having alot of falls because her legs are so weak so its now a safety issue.  Thankfully she has a security system with two way communication and fell on Friday.  They called me and I went but the paramedics were there before I got there.  She was fine physically.  My brothers and sisters have been broaching the subject with her but I told them don't press, she has to decide for herself and now she has.  She didn't want to spend the money LOL!  I told her look, whatever you can't cover, you can draw out of savings right.  That's what its for, not to leave us!  Its so hard seeing someone that has been so independant her whole life failing pysically.  But its time.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012

    Hey MLB! Good to hear from you. My decision took me all of two hours to make back in March but I know some of our sisters are doing it now.

    God bless you and your mom! You are right, losing the independence is the worst. What a tough decision for everyone, but I'm glad it got to be her choice and obviously she'll have her family to help find a good place.

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited June 2012

    Indigo

    Sorry, I was trying to go  back and make notes and must have mixed you up with another poster!  I'll have to go back and read some more when I have a bit more time.  Just taking a break from housework and thought I'd pop back in.

    Yeah, poor old dear.  The issue was addressed a couple of years ago and I brought her around to a few places that were lovely, but she wasn't ready.  We all cook for her, do her laundry, have cleaning ladies coming in.  Get her to her doctors appointments but its evident she can't live alone any longer.  We've all offered to have her move in but nope, she won't do it.  So it is what it is. 

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited June 2012

    MLB, it must make it a bit easier that she is willing to do it, much better than making her!  Can't be easy on anyone.  

    Hope everyone is having a good day. This is my tired day and I have been on the couch all day.  Trying to stay upright now so I can sleep tonight!  Tomorrow is another day! 

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited June 2012

    MBL- I can't believe it's been 8 weeks already! I'm glad your feeling back to normal. There is light at the end of the tunnel. I hope that your Mom ends up liking the home, my grandma ended up really liking it once she moved because she could always find someone to talk with.

    Kim, stay upright because if you don't you'll fall asleep. LOL I just made the mistake of lying down to read. Didn't get very far before I was asleep.

    Indigo-glad your not near the fire. We went through Denver a few years ago on our way to Yellowstone. All I remember was a HUGE hill we had to go up on the way out. I didn't think we would ever get up it with the truck and camper. We didn't even qualify for the slow lane. 

  • lanagraves
    lanagraves Member Posts: 596
    edited June 2012

    Still hanging out on the blah side this morning. Rib still hurts, legs and arms hurt from Taxol #3, feel cruddy but trying to work. Not getting much done though. All I can think about is how bad I hurt.

  • TrailGirl
    TrailGirl Member Posts: 46
    edited June 2012

    I'm with you lanagraves. My knees keep giving out because of the pain. Just feel like overall crap today.

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited June 2012

    Hello ladies

    I had to go to A&E on Friday because my temperature climbed to 38.3 degrees celsius (100 degrees fahrenheit). My first Taxotere was on Friday June 8 and Friday June 15 was day eight.

    The docs admitted me to hospital and have just let me out today. They gave me intravenous antibiotics and my temperature came down. I was all packed up and ready to go when I felt very faint coming out of the shower.

    In fact, I was terrified. Did not seem to have any energy to get up at all. My blood pressure was getting lower and lower. At one point it was 95 over 55 and I had a heart beat of 122 per minute.

    It was all incredibly scary. I wondered if this is how my life might be forever.

    The good news is that the docs say the low blood pressure was caused by not eating and drinking enough!

    As someone who is forced to watch their weight all the time, I was straight down to the cafe for a steak pasty and orange juice as soon as possible.

    Voila! My blood pressure started to go up. I continued to eat and eat and drink and drink and it was back to normal in a few hours. Home today!

    The docs are going to reduce my dose of Taxotere too. A result!

    Best wishes

    Alice

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited June 2012

    Oh no Alice!  I was wondering how you were doing.  Glad you are back home.

    Glad I demanded to have my counts done - WBC of 1.4 leading to series of neopagen (sp?) shots the next 3 days.  I will demand the Nuelasta next time.

    Taxotere people - anyone had bumps on the face, even broken capillaries?  Just noticing this now as well as a small almost mole like spot on my chest.  Immediately thinking skin mets of course and know that they are very uncommon but that does not keep me from researching them and obsessing about it.

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited June 2012

    Alice- glad your doing better. I think I will eat and drink and eat and drink with you so your not alone.

    TrailGirl and lanagrave- I hope you both getting to feeling better soon and stop hurting.

    I spent the day in town shuttling my parents around to dr appt. and the grocery store. Dad had his eyes dialated and Mom doesn't drive. I believe it's about nap time.

    Hope everyone else is having a good day! 

    I forgot to add that my DS had attempted to do the dishes for me today while I was gone. I say attempted because when he wasn't looking I redid them. But he tried!

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited June 2012

    Hey Taxol ladies, hang in there! It sucks, I know.

    Alice: Holy %#£€!! So so sorry you had to be in hospital, and have that scare. Glad to hear food and drink were the answer to the BP thing... Love food and drink.

    I'm in for second Taxotere tomorrow, which is round 5 of my 6 treatments!

    Saw my RO today again for appointments for CT planning session. Mind is now full of Rads info, numbers, possible side effects (my personal fave), all that...Good news is they are ok with me having a window between end of chemo and rads to have sone healthy holiday time with my family out of the city... Really feel I need that to restore and refuel...

    Got alot done today on my little pre-chemo steroid buzz. Dh enjoys watching me whirl around. I suppose it is quite funny after days of lethargy.

    Hugs All.

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited June 2012

    Ktlb: I forgot to say, yes I had bumps come up on my face; I thought they were pimples.. They went away after a few days. Weird.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012

    TrailGirl and Lanagraves - praying and hoping your pain improves ASAP!! 

    Alicethecat - glad you are back home and feeling better!  (Does A&E stand for Ambulance & Emergency?).  Anyway, whatever it stands for, hoping you are able to stay away from it for the duration!

    kltb04 - sounds like your fever must be down.  I see the MO again this coming Thursday morning before my last A/C; I have a lot of questions about Taxotere.  Do you think those bumps are from all the steroids?  It looks like on the meds schedule I have, that they ramp up the steroids for Taxotere.

    I hope no IV steroids though - that is one of my questions.  I heard from someone on the April/May thread that if they have to give steroids via IV and push it in rather than drip it in, it can cause horrible burning pain in, of all places, your rectum. As bizarre as that may sound, it was quite true, according to my source.  So if they say something to you about IV steroids, have a talk about whether or not they want to push it in and why.  I filed that one away for future reference - hopefully all of us can get by with the pills.

    So far as A/C #3 winds down, the worst SE that is still hanging on is this stupid canker sore inside my lower lip.  The Rocky Mountain Mouthwash helped with the soreness in the back of my throat and the blisters came and went on my tongue - pretty sure no thrush - but the other sore is so stubborn.  DH gave me some l-lysine yesterday and this a.m. when I woke up, the sore didn't hurt for the first time in several days.  Then, of course, while I was eating my lunch, I bit right into it.  Hopefully tomorrow it will be better than now.  The NP I saw last tx said that they could prescribe an antiviral for me for the sores, but that it would be one more daily med to take, and probably would only shave a couple of days or so off the healing time.  So I didn't get the prescription.  But I'm wondering now if this same sore will just keep coming back - it had healed up completely after tx #2 and then came back again.  I might change my mind.  

    Otherwise doing okay.  Staying busy during the day with work, and planning to go in to the office on Wednesday.  

    I am about done with this heat wave here - broke another record in Denver today with the high of 100.  I'm surprised we aren't having blackouts.  I have not worn my wig for the last few days no matter where I went.  I am tempted not to wear it to the office; we'll see if I chicken out or not.  

    DS#2 is back from his camping adventure as leader with his Wyld Life group.  Sooo proud of him.  I am going to take some pics - he with his new Mohawk, me bald and eyebrowless - then me with a head buff and eyebrows - then me with wig, lashes and foobies in my new "Yes They're Fake!  My Real Ones Tried to Kill Me!" shirt that my sister got me for my birthday.  And I am going to post them and/or create an avatar.  Hopefully if he rolls out of bed by noon tomorrow, we'll get on it.  

    My BIL called me out of the sky blue this morning (my sister's husband).  We aren't particularly close so my first thought was, OMG!  Something has happened to my sis, or one of their kids, or my mom!  But no - he said he hadn't realized that I was on chemo and had lost my hair!  I don't really know now what my sister told him, but evidently that news just got through recently.  Anyway, surprisingly, we had a very good talk.   What do you know?

    Purple healing to all, and hoping for a restful evening for everyone.  

  • galena_79
    galena_79 Member Posts: 107
    edited June 2012

    Hi all

    Sorry, I haven't been on the forum for quite some time.  I must say, I actually don't like this new format much at all.  :(

    Anyway, I've had 5 weekly infusions of Paclitaxel (Taxol) now.  7 more weeks to go.

    I have found it much easier than Doxorubicin and Cyclophosphamide (A/C).  Side effects have included... aching muscles / joints / bones for about 3 days each week, some tingling / nerve damage in my hands and feet, and my nose / sinuses has been a bit on the bleedy side.  All quite easy to bear; sometimes I pop a couple pain killers though.

    Otherwise, feeling pretty good.  :D

    I hope you are all doing well, and glad to be moving along with your treatments.  Weird to think we're getting close to the end of June now!

    Angela 

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