April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • Tweetyb422
    Tweetyb422 Member Posts: 119
    edited June 2012

    A little bummed, I finished 4 rounds DD A/C last Monday, met with surgeon today to schedule lumpectomy, and he said I have responded well, tumor is half the size, but he would like to see more shrinkage due to size of my breast...so he recommends more chemo....ugh...I was so disappointed :(

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2012

    Tweetyb422- Sorry to hear you are having more chemo.  We are still here for you!!! 

  • Fierro6
    Fierro6 Member Posts: 224
    edited June 2012

    I didn't sleep great last night, but I did manage to OVER sleep.  Sheesh.  Anyway, time to catch up: 

    mistym - my port was put in while I was in for the MX, so I was there overnight anyway. I have to say, I wasn't asked any questions about where to get it, whether to get it, or anything. I was just told that they'd be putting in a port. I have had zero issues with it and am so thankful to have it. I know not everyone has had the same results. Your mileage may vary.

    vballmom - I'm a bit freaked about losing my hair, but other than that, I feel the same as you do. You surgeons do the best you can for me, and I'll follow your lead. So far, I haven't been lead wrong in any way.

    rgina - I was given Prochlorper. I wonder if I should do the same? She only told me "as needed." So far, no nausea. I did have a light case of heartburn a couple of times, but Tums fixed me up.

    DorisMarie and Marcia1111 - I never drink water but after joining here and being told by my MO that I needed to drink a lot, I'm forcing it down. Tons. I also cut down coffee and Diet Coke. Today I got some Crystal Light packets with no caffeine. I hope that helps me keep slamming the water.

    Gemmie - I asked my MO's nurse about it and she said, "I know some people have good luck with it, and it won't hurt anything to try." She suggested only the day of the shot and the day after. I guess I'll do that this time, and if it doesn't work, I'll go longer next time.

    Tweetyb422 - What a blow...thinking you were done and finding out you're not. I'm sorry.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited June 2012

    Gemmie:  Glad you made it through your first treatment okay.

  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited June 2012

    Help - I have reddish bumps on the back half of my tongue (my tongue is sore too).  Nothing white.  I don't know if I should be concerned or not.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012

    It might be thrush, but it could also just be the mouth sores from chemo.  I get them too.  Some of them look like canker sores but the ones on my tongue look more like bumps, as you said.  I called my MO's office the other day just to see if I should be concerned about thrush, and since I didn't have any white patches, the nurse said she thought they were the sores from chemo.  She called me in a prescription of the magic mouthwash, because they do hurt some when I eat, especially in the back of my throat. 

    I am paying the price for slacking off on the baking soda/salt rinses....

  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited June 2012

    Thanks Indigo.  Me too!  I'm 2 weeks out from my last treatment and had stopped using the baking soda/salt rinse.  Guess I was premature on that!

  • mistym
    mistym Member Posts: 58
    edited June 2012

    Oh Tweetyb422 extra big hugs being sent your way.

    Re: Water- I am usually not a big water drinker but I find that if I add gatorade crystals, it helps me drink more.

    Green tea:  I was told to not drink green tea while in treatment because it is an antioxidant.  I used to drink green tea all day.

    Bone pain: I will definitely be giving the Claratin a try with round 2 because my pain got so bad that couldn't walk.  When I called the MO, I was told that the side effect was unusual.

    Thank you everyone for being here.....you are all AMAZING

    Hugs,

    Misty

  • sandik
    sandik Member Posts: 482
    edited June 2012

    Day 3 of AC #4. Getting tired! Tomorrow is my crash day, so I think I may give in and just go to bed early!

  • rn4babies
    rn4babies Member Posts: 409
    edited June 2012
    mistym...I had agonizing bone pain my Round 2/Neulasta as well so it must be more common than they think. I started the Claritin the day before and for 6 days after. If it did help, I can't imagine what my pain would have been without it!
  • Fierro6
    Fierro6 Member Posts: 224
    edited June 2012

    I'm wiped out, but not sick.  I've had a bit of heartburn twice, but Tums fixed it.  I had NO desire to eat.  I forced down some crackers this morning to take my Dexamethasone, and I ate maybe 5 animal crackers at noon to hush concerned coworkers.  I wasn't sick or nauseous, I just wasn't hungry.  And I'm pretty foggy-feeling.

    I made it through 4 1/2 hours at work, and left early for my Neulasta shot.  I just didn't think I could make it another minute.  I arrived early, and they got me in a bit early.  Win.  

    I also got everything straightened out between PS and chemo.  I'll go on Tuesday morning for blood work on the way to work.  They'll fax results to PS nurse.  If I'm a go, I'll go Wednesday morning for a TE fill, and then straight to my infusion.  I really hope this works.  If my counts make PS nervous, I won't get a fill.  I trust them.  I just want to keep things moving.

    I also hope I can get 40 hours in next week, since every-other-week is consumed with blood draw, TE fill, chemo, Neulasta.  I'll be lucky to get 20 hours in on those weeks.  I want the off week to be good and for me to feel good.   High hopes, huh? 

    Finally, I haven't had a fever, but my face feels hot.  Even with the fan on and my legs feeling chilly, my face feels hot.  I'm sure it has something to do with a medication.  That sounds like a lot of crap to spew for day 2, but I didn't think it was too bad, other than the foggy feeling and the slight headache that still lingers. 

  • rgina
    rgina Member Posts: 100
    edited June 2012

    Kiberty - great picture, we are all really rockin this bald look.

    Fierro - my Zofran script said take as needed too, so I called the office the next day and the nurse said take it anyway for 3 days,  whether you need it or not.  You might double check?  Also don't be freaked at the hair thing, look how great everyone looks when they post their new pictures and you'll look great too.

    Tweety - I'm so sorry and you have every right to be more than a little bummed.

    Husker - yes, equine therapy works wonders.  Nothing like putting your arms around the neck of a horse and burying your face in that neck on really bad days - works wonders.  I don't even ride, my daughter is the equestrian, but I've been doing horse rescue for 12 years and well that's a long story:):)

  • mistym
    mistym Member Posts: 58
    edited June 2012

    m4babies, I had 7 neupogen injections.  The bone pain was so bad it was the worst pain ever in my life.  I think neupogen is similar to neulasta?  The weird thing was that the pain didn't get severe until two days after my last injection.  I woke up in the middle of the night with my whole body in spasms from the pain.  Nothing I took for pain helped at all.  After I spent a whole day in bed and taking T3s the pain got better.  So the day after bed rest, I went about my routine as usual with walks and chores etc and surprise terrible pain came back.  So I spent yesterday in bed all day and today is better.  I did go for walks today but didn't overdo it. I sure hope the Claratin works with round 2 because the pain is unbearable.  If it doesn't work, I will definitely be asking for some heavy duty pain meds.   I will keep you posted as my 2nd treatment is on June 19th.

    Hugs,

    Misty

  • Fierro6
    Fierro6 Member Posts: 224
    edited June 2012

    I really don't think anyone looks bad after losing their hair.  Images online (including here) and on TV, in hats, scarves, or just bare headed.  I've noticed them more since diagnosis, and never saw one instance where I thought, "Oh wow.  She looks bad."  It's just unknown to me.  Like I've said before, it's the waiting that gets me.  Let's just get on with it!  

  • Tweetyb422
    Tweetyb422 Member Posts: 119
    edited June 2012

    Thanks everyone, I had a good cry, so I feel a little better...will call oncologist tomorrow and see when i have to get back in the big girl chair

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited June 2012

    Okay, hair fall-out, I think I'm ready!  We just returned from Bass Pro Shops and I bought 2 Buffs and 2 hats.  I also have a wig that the ACS gave me and four that my co-worker gave me. Another friend had some pretty nice do-rag things she gave me and my mother gave me a bunch of scarves.  I don't know how I'm actually going to react when it actually comes out, but at least I'll have lots of options!

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited June 2012

    Well I had planned on going to a support group tomorrow am w my sister but I had to cancel. I feel like crap just really wore out/drained & I am so frustrated. I have 3 more treatment & I have no idea how I am going to make it. I am also waiting for my presc for an antidepressant & I have heard nothing. I called the cancer care center & they said they will tx to the den& get back w me tomorrw. I need a relief I am so nerves up.

  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited June 2012

    @nofear - hope you feel better!

     I'm not doing the wig thing - too hot!  baseball caps are getting the job done for me.

  • mistym
    mistym Member Posts: 58
    edited June 2012

    Sending big hugs to you nofear2012.  Hang in there.  We will all get through this together.

    Misty

  • rn4babies
    rn4babies Member Posts: 409
    edited June 2012
    mistym.....I had 2 Neupogen injections after my counts went really low with my first infusion. About 18 hours after the first one, I had terrible pain in my back and hips. It didn't get worse with the second one and went away after about a day and a half. The pain was much more severe with the Neulasta. When I called the MO's office, they told me that the Neulasta is much stronger and the pain would probably last 3 or 4 days. They were right.  I read somewhere online that the Neulasta is 10x stronger than Neupogen and intended to last longer. That's why they only give one injection of it versus several of the Neupogen.
  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited June 2012

    Oh I forgot about my stock of baseball caps!  I'm glad I have the wigs just in case, but I doubt I will wear them in the South Florida summer!

  • rgina
    rgina Member Posts: 100
    edited June 2012

    lsharvey - I'm also doing caps and bandanas, but I found these caps at Walmart like conductors caps and they have an elastic band in the back and don't have the open hole in the back like baseball caps plus they come down further to the ears and further down the back and they were cheap.

    I'm out of here - mindless TV tonight - the new "Dallas" premier on TNT - should be amusing.

  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited June 2012

    omg Marcia - I can't imagine!  I thought my head was going to boil last weekend in a baseball cap here in Maryland!  the other thing I like about them is people are used to seeing people in baseball hats so it helps to blend.  Obviously if you look close things are a little different but when I'm going thru the grocery store I really don't think anybody looks that close!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2012

    Marcia- Sounds like you have the hair thing under control.  Whenever it starts falling, take control over it before it controls you.  You will know what you want to do and how much you want to cut/shave once it does start coming out.  I'm glad I didn't shave close because I haven't had to deal with stubble.

    Tweety- I know I'm not leaving the big girl chair anytime soon so don't think for one second you're alone!!!  HUGS!!!

    kjliberty- Looking good sporting that new 'do!!!

    Gemmie & Fiero- Glad your first chemo treatments went well.  Hopefully your side effects will be minimal!!!

    Sandik, Stacie, IndigoMont & Dancetrancer- Glad you each of you have been here on this thread from the beginning.  We have each come so far since March!!!

    For everyone on this thread- We are doing this part of our journeys through chemoland together, through the easy and not so easy times!!! We leave no one behind; we are stronger together.  Thanks for helping my journey here just a little easier.....

  • mistym
    mistym Member Posts: 58
    edited June 2012

    m4babies I suppose it is possible that whatever pain I have been having could be related to the chemo and not the neupogen at all.  Maybe after round 2 I will have a better idea?  I wonder if the claratin will help with neupogen.

    Misty

  • rn4babies
    rn4babies Member Posts: 409
    edited June 2012

    misty......I had pretty bad bone pain on the 4th day after my infusion before I had any injections so it definitely is possible. Maybe that's why it was so severe after the Neulasta......it may have been a combination of the two.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited June 2012

    Nofear:  Hang in there!  Sending hugs your way!

     Marcia:  Sounds like you are well equiped.  My wig is reserved only when I go to work or out in public.  Love my Buffs.

    As far as the Neulasta injection:  I took Claritan the first time and had my second injection on Friday.  I wound up having sharp pains this evening and hoping they go away soon.  My MO says they could just appear up to 10 days after the injection.  Gotta take the Tylenol now.

    Sandik:  Hope you're feeling better soon.

    Fierro:  I hope you can do the 40 hour work week.  I know I could not.   

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited June 2012

    M4babies:  Beautiful pic!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2012

    The basic difference between Neulasta and Neupogen is that the Neulasta has a chemical component that allows it to last longer in the body than the Neupogen.  That is the reason that the injection for Neulasta is so time specific and given only once (24 hours after the chemo treatment) whereas the Neupogen injection is administered daily for the number of days the onco prescribes.   There are no guarantees that the Claritin will prevent the bone pain from occuring after the injection of Neulasta or Neupogen; but always least worth a try. 

  • Fierro6
    Fierro6 Member Posts: 224
    edited June 2012

    That makes me wonder if the reason I'm getting Neulasta is because I'm on dose dense and every other week, instead of every three weeks?  I also wonder what makes an MO decide to go with dose dense or not?  I also wonder why I don't think to ask my MO these very questions when I see her?  Time to update my "Notes" document for the next visit!  LOL

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