April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited June 2012

    Just beginning to feel better after #4 of 6. My ALND site swelled and I had to have it needle-aspirated. The pressure was so uncomfortable it was a relief. But I almost passed out from the thought of it plus an untimely hot flash. I came out of the doc's office walking like an old lady from the bone pain, a sharp contrast from being in AK. I could not believe "how much" we are all going through that cannot be articulated.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited June 2012

    kjiberty - I joined a local support group one time.  It definitely wasn't for me.  Over 40 people, and many monopolized the conversation - didn't get much out of it.  Also, I was the youngest person in the room, which made me feel isolated.  I've been to in person support groups for other issues in the past, and they really were great, so I was disappointed.  All groups have a different "feel".  A smaller, younger group would have been better, but it didn't work with my schedule.  I agree...this is the BEST support group you could ever get here!!!!

     Gemmi - best wishes for tomorrow!!! I'll be right there with ya getting my 4th TCH.  

    nofear - I listened to the cancer one of the mediations listed - it was AWESOME.  I really see how this could help me.  I felt so relaxed and hopeful afterwards.  Thank you so much!

    lol vickilind!  

    Fierro - what a sweet story about your Dad.  Re: the headaches...could be due to the crying, stress, chemo, premeds (Zofran?), etc...I noticed those meditations have one for headaches...maybe try it?  The one I listened to really relaxed me.  

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited June 2012
    stacie, I'm so sorry you have been not feeling well - uggh.  The SE are cummulative, so maybe they are catching up with you.  Is there any way you can back off at work a bit now?  The swelling in your armpit is concerning - glad you had it aspirated, although that couldn't have been pleasant.  Please monitor yourself closely for signs of LE and take it easy on that arm.  <hugs> 
  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited June 2012

    Yes Dance I am working from home w/o travel here on in. I can call in anytime. Learning ahead that the fatigue was cumulative I planned for it. I am watching for signs of LE and am doing my manual lymph drainage daily. I have an LE expert occ therapist to assist me.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012

    UNofear, thanks for the Kaiser link. I'm surprised I haven't been told about it before since I'm a Kaiser patient.



    Fierro, I'm with Dancetrancer - it might be the antinausea meds. I've had some headaches too, and there seemed to be a connection with zofran. I didn't quit taking it, but I did find that tramadol helped the headaches when nothing else would.



    About support groups - I was given info about the ones through ACS, and about being matched with someone else, but I already felt comfortable with BCO community. I have a funny feeling, too, that I would have had a similar experience to Dancetrancer. I heard somewhere that people in support groups do better than ones that aren't. But these forums are better for me than going to a meeting probably once a week, when I might not feel like going anywhere, or if I need support more than that. These forums are my support group, and as I've said before, I know I'd be doing worse emotionally and probably physically without all of you.



    Wishing you all a restful night with minimal SEs.

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited June 2012

    I went once to the support group but it is at the same time as the bc exercise class. According to the research, the exercise is the biggest recurrance reduction decision I am making...so it won over the group.

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited June 2012

    PS I go to AA. And that's an incredible support system.

  • Fierro6
    Fierro6 Member Posts: 224
    edited June 2012

    I fell asleep, after several folks told me to plan on being kept up by steroids.  Three hours in, my wonderful, loving, sweet 60 lb dog decided he wanted out and tried to join me in the recliner.  The little darling about got punched, but so would anyone waking me up.  LOL  I let him and the good dog outside, and then realized I may be done sleeping for the night.

    Slight headache is back.  I started thinking that caffiene withdrawl could be to blame, although I haven't cut it completely out.  It HAS been a drastic cutback, though.  I know I'm getting PLENTY of water, so I may allow myself a bit more from the coffee/diet Coke column.  My cutback was pretty sudden.  I figure I'll bribe myself by having to drink an EXTRA water for each coffee/diet Coke I drink.  (43 years old and I'm bargaining with myself like I'm a spoiled 3 year old!)

    I shall also look at the meditation information. I WILL figure this out.  I have a new appreciation for those who get headaches regularly.  I have lived most of my life headache-free, and knew that was a blessing, but didn't realize how big of a blessing it was.  As far as anti-nausea meds, I don't remember what I was given in my infusion yesterday, but I haven't had to take anything orally, yet.  I see my list of questions for my call to the MOs office growing.

    Thanks to all for the advice.  I really want to go to work today, but I would need to get up 4 hours from now, and I've had 3 hours sleep so far.  We'll see if I can close this computer and get back to it.  Thanks again! 

  • sgtgee_69
    sgtgee_69 Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2012

    Hi All,

    I hope you are feeling well.  I haven't been on in a few days.  I made it thru 2 graduation ceremonies this past weekend.  My daughters bestie for Friday evening graduated and my daughter graduated Saturday afternoon.  It wasw my most proud moment with my daughter since she graduated with honors.  I have to admit that I was totally exhausted Fri and Sat from being out in the sun.  Now I'm having issues sleeping as well, these muscle aches and joint aches will not leave me alone.  Last night was a disaster for me my pulse throbbed with my body.  At 3 am I finally said forget sleep and took a shower and went to work but right now I want to go back home and sleep

  • vballmom
    vballmom Member Posts: 426
    edited June 2012

    Gemmie - isn't it amazing how badly we just want to start?  I will be thinking of you today - will you be posting from the big girl chair? 

    Rgina - I will be with you the entire year. Looks like our pathologies are nearly identical.  Lucky us! But we will have each other.

    I'm not liking hats or scarves, either. I travel with one and put it on in front of others. I got a really cute buff and wore it as a fat headband.  I still have stubble and don't like the feeling of anything pressing on them. Hubby has offered to shave the rest, but I kinda like the look of having a little stubble left.

    Fierro - I had a similar reaction after my first treatment.  I did not get the headache and was not as fuzzy after round 2. I hope it is the same for you.  My parents recenty moved 15 hours away and I only see them via video chat.  My dad cries nearly every time he sees me.   It kills me.  They are coming today and I cannot wait, but it's going to be emotional.

    Dancetrancer - I've got a little thrush, too.  Good info on the WBC - thanks. I am trying to learn more and understand my counts. Last check WBC 3.0, neutrophils 1.9.  Checking again today.  Doesn't seem to be a difference between Neulasta or Neupogen to me. I hope they switch me back to Neulasta.

    KIJiberty - I have not been interested in a local support group, but I have to say I have enough survivors in my world that act as one. I like the targeted nature of this group here.  It is comforting to be at the same stage in treatment with you here, and I also visit the Her2 groups to talk with those with the same pathology.

    Vicki - I didn't know ahead of time but my center only allows one visitor at a time. The first day it wouldn't have mattered because I was in a private room.  I will head over to the 2012 thread, which btw I did not start! I got me some explaining to do...

    Stacie -  ugh on the aspiration. I am so queasy that any procedure makes me freak a little.  Even when they access my port or give me my neupogen shot.  I saw them bring in a bag of blood to the chemo room yesterday and my stomach flipped.  I cry during every shot now.  I'm such a wimp.

    sgtgee_69 - congrats to your DD! Are you supposed to be in the sun? My dd graduates a week from today and I am praying it is outside.

    Marnie - we have an ecommerce business.  My husband and girls have been running it in my absence. I have been doing customer service phone calls and emails, but it is not the same.  Hubby is especially missing my presence, as we have worked together for many years. It is a fun story - I helped my girls start their own business when the were 10 and 12. It was so successful that I ended up quitting my job and taking over the business full-time.  I am not ready to post our site publicly, as I prefer this not show up in search engines when people search for our product, but if anyone wants to know, PM and I'll send you the link. I am enjoying your website. I actually have a really cool idea for a BC related business, but have am not fully comfortable with the making money side of the disease. I'd be happy to talk business privately if you are interested. It's my passion.

    Hugs to all and especially those I missed today.  

    And for those who are lurking, stop in and say hello.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited June 2012

    Thanks Ladies for you input about support groups.  I didn't know if I was the only one that felt this is a great group. I also have some friends who have been through this and they are in constant contact with me.  It's nice to know we are not alone in our battle.

    Gemmie:  Wishing you well today.

    Fierro:  I looked at your blog--you crack me up.  Hope you're doing okay today.  

    Well, I am off to the office today.  Finally getting my butt out of the house for at least half a day.  

    Have a great day everyone with minimal S/E's 

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited June 2012

    I am so tired of not being able to sleep!  I am officially on vacation for the summer, so I think I will bee kind to myself and veg out until my NP appointment this afternoon.  I had such big plans for the day - gym, organizing, cleaning, helping my son pack for a trip to Israel next week, but I'm still in bed, trying to get motivated.  I am 7 days since my first treatment and otherwise feel good.

  • mistym
    mistym Member Posts: 58
    edited June 2012

    Good morning beautiful ladies,

    Good luck to all getting treatment this week and hoping SE's are minimal for everyone this week.  Extra hugs being sent to those who are having difficulty with the physical and emotional ups and downs. 

    My stubbles are coming out and I have been helping them along with a sticky roll lint brush.  They are so annoying though and I am thinking about going to a salon and asking them to shave the remaining stubbles off.  I'm just a little worried that I might get cut so am not sure if I should or not.

    This morning I had my usual cup of coffee and it made me sick.  I guess my body is telling me no more coffee.  I'm not a big coffee drinker but do enjoy one in the morning.  I'm going to try an ice coffee later and see if that makes me sick too.

    Tomorrow morning I go to the hospital to have my port installed.  Can anyone tell me how long I can expect to be at the hospital for if all goes smoothly?  If I understand the research, the proceedure should take less than an hour.  Also someone on here already suggested I mark where my bra strap would be so the person doing the proceedure knows.  Also, how long is the recovery period?  I'm hoping to have a family bbq this Sunday for Father's Day and am wondering if I will feel okay.

    Thank you all for being here and providing so much support and understanding.

    Misty

    Hugs

  • chapter4
    chapter4 Member Posts: 155
    edited June 2012

    Nofear. No numbness for me....they have me taking 100mg of B6 3 times a day...it's supposed to help.



    I have however developed a bumpy rash on my arms and legs....I'm on vacation and have been out in the sun....with sun screen...it may be a reaction to the sun?



    I also developed a cold....ugh...but otherwise feeling good.

  • vballmom
    vballmom Member Posts: 426
    edited June 2012

    Misty, I went in the morning and was home by one.   I was terrified for no reason.  The procedure itself was absolutely easy - worst part being the IV for me.  I was mad and sore afterwards because I was still unable to sleep on my mastectomy side and then the port side was unavailable as an option. I had to sleep on my back for three days.  I didn't bother asking about the bra strap thing.  Honestly, I just wanted them to do the best job possible and not worry about cosmetics. I am weird that way.  Same with my MX (haven't even researched reconstruction yet) and my hair.  Make me well.  We will pretty up the package later.

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited June 2012

    Fierro - I just read your blog post.  Loved it!

  • chapter4
    chapter4 Member Posts: 155
    edited June 2012

    Mistym.....on the port...I found it to be no big deal...surgery was fine....it's sore for a few days after. I've had it in for just over two months and occasionally it's uncomfortable when sleeping but not that bad..as for placement location...I asked my surgeon to hide it under my bra strap...he just looked at me and said...I'm putting where it needs to be. I guess that makes sense LOL



    I'm small on top so it pokes through and looks alien-like....not very attractive...but then again...what is these days?



    In the big picture, the port surgery/placement was a relatively minor affair for me.



    Hope it goes well for you.

  • rgina
    rgina Member Posts: 100
    edited June 2012

    Mistym - when I got my port last month I checked into the hospital at 7:30 and was back home eating a sandwich by noon - slept in the next morning and was back at work by noon the next day.  The port didn't bother me nearly as much as the pain in my neck/shoulder blades on my back they must have had me positioned in some odd position - that took almost a week to stop bugging me.

    Fierro - take the anti-nausea meds whether you need them or not.  I was told to take my Zofran for 3-4 days, because if the nausea starts the meds really won't stop it, so take the meds to prevent it.

    Vballmom - looks like we are going to be hanging out here for a long time, we even started our first TX the same week.

    Is anyone taking Temazepam to sleep?  I go to sleep, then wake up and my mind doesn't shut off and then lay awake sometimes for hours, this doesn't happen every night - but I hate taking one more thing.  Not that I'm actually taking any other prescriptions other than blood pressure meds - but with all the chemo............

    Stacie - take care of that arm, when my daughter had her ALND - she's still got problems 3 years later, that's nothing to mess with.

  • DorisMarie
    DorisMarie Member Posts: 129
    edited June 2012

    Hi..just a fyi..port in on the 4th..chemo on the 6th..on the 11th..port area was more achy..tender..on the 12th..could see infection starting..called doc..got meds..better now..the area is still sealed behind the "super glue"..so the germ was already there..and didn't flair up until white blood count dropped..so watch it gals that have tx not long after port placement..

    other wise..feeling fine..food is tasting right again..yahoo..I think lots of water is the key to fighting the yucks...

    hope e'body the best..Doris

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited June 2012

    Doris - I'm with you on the water.  I have been drinking so much water, powerade, etc. I think it is a HUGE help!

    rgina- I have a prescription for Temazapan, but it is not helping!  I take an over the counter sleep aid from Costco.  Usually 1/2 helps a lot, but not lately.  Last night I tried xanax.  Got a few hours, but not enough.

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited June 2012

    Good morning Sisters. I feel much better. I am having my green tea and catching up on the news/online. Will start a late work day and take a break for exercise class. Glad to feel an upswing early. I'd like to make it to Dad's with my sibs this weekend. Have the best day possible, or better.

  • Rose_d
    Rose_d Member Posts: 144
    edited June 2012

    Sounds like everyone is doing as well as can be expected! I'm day 3 after my first Taxol and am so far SO much better than I was on A/C! No stomach issues at all, including indigestion/constipation which have been among the toughest SEs for me.



    I had achiness last night (my tongue hurt back in the base of my throat!) but tylenol seemed to helped and I feel good enough to go to yoga this afternoon.



    I do have a lot of muscle cramps right now, my toes keep cramping. But no numbness yet (I guess it's early for that).



    I have taken Ativan before every treatment, mostly because the thought of walking into the cancer center makes me nauseous. But it definitely helps with the nerves. I also take 2 if I wake up in the middle of the night and it definitely helps.



    I still have to do the Neulasta shot (tried to get out of it yesterday and my MO said no way) I guess it's just the way they do it at Sloan Kettering. Annoying but not much I can do about it.



    Good luck to everyone this week!



    Rose

  • Nance72
    Nance72 Member Posts: 38
    edited June 2012

    Had a piece of toast with apple butter spread early this morning, and took my Compazine. A little while later I woke up and got a little stomach sick. Around two hours later I tried a some scrambled eggs and kept them down. Realized a little while ago that I never took my Emmend this morning, so I now have my Compazine, Zofran, and Emmend in me. I still feel on edge with my stomach, so I will wait to try some lunch. Want the meds to kick in and do there job when I try to eat again.

  • Nance72
    Nance72 Member Posts: 38
    edited June 2012

    Had a piece of toast with apple butter spread early this morning, and took my Compazine. A little while later I woke up and got a little stomach sick. Around two hours later I tried a some scrambled eggs and kept them down. Realized a little while ago that I never took my Emmend this morning, so I now have my Compazine, Zofran, and Emmend in me. I still feel on edge with my stomach, so I will wait to try some lunch. Want the meds to kick in and do there job when I try to eat again.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012

    Nance72 - you are doing the right thing! Hope you feel better soon; I hate waiting for the queasiness to go away.  The Compazine ought to help.  I hope you don't have to go to work today.

    That super glue stuff they use to seal incisions is pretty amazing stuff.  It took over 2 months for it to peel completely off of my mastectomy scars.  

    Mistym - I think you should do okay with your port placement.  The worst thing about mine, other than the stupid IV, like Vballmom said, was waiting around to make sure my blood counts were high enough to do the surgery.  I appreciate the advice from DorisMarie too on watching for infections (hope yours is all cleared up now!!). But if they do the port outside of other surgery and especially if you've already started chemo, they have to do it late in your treatment cycle so they can make sure it's done when your counts are highest.  I think that generally means a day or two before a treatment day, as it did in my case.  I was a little nervous about them accessing the port the next day, but really, it didn't hurt much at all and the nurse had no trouble whatsoever.  I couldn't use the EMLA cream yet since my incision hadn't healed and I couldn't get it wet that day, but she did use the spray and although it stung a little, it also numbed it up enough to where I didn't feel the poke much at all.  It was a hundred times better than having them poke my arm repeatedly, and didn't hurt near as much as the IV in my hand the day before, for the port procedure.  

    I have a power port which is a little thicker and it does make a very noticeable bump in my chest.  (I say I'm turning Borg, like Star Trek, lol).  I can usually cover it with most clothing.  I didn't want my bra strap on it, though; I thought that would be uncomfortable, so the surgeon deliberately put it a little further from my shoulder.  No problems there either.  I bump it once in a while and that doesn't feel great, but mostly it's out of the way and I don't think about it all that much any more.

  • Gemmie
    Gemmie Member Posts: 103
    edited June 2012

    Ladies,

    I know many of you have advocated for taking the Claridon on day of the shot, as well as 7(?) days after. I want to know the benefit of this. My nurse was rather surprised I asks a out that b/c generally they recommend only the standard stuff, like Motrin and Ibuprophin. So I am glad to follow advice here, but would like to know purpose of Claridon, which is a antihistamine, yes?

    |uoG,epic,NF.


    My first infusion went fine today, for all the agonizing I've done over it, this was a walk in the park. I did request, and get, Ativan , and that helped. I had no problems with the Taxotere but she did give it in very slow drip as this was my first time. So far, I feel fine, but somehow I'm expecting the bottom to drop out sometime in the next few days. Wouldn't it be marvelous if it didn't, though. Hey, I can always hope.

    Vickilynn, it was really easy so relax. It was far easier than all the stress and worry about it beforehand for sure. I am now going to force myself to talk a long walk outside, as I think I recall one of you ladies mentioned that that was recommended by her MO. I slept very little last night and would rather nap, but that can come later! Good day to all.
    Gemmie

    Surgery 05/17/2012 Lymph Node Removal: Axillary Lymph Node Dissection (Right)Chemotherapy 06/12/2012 Cytoxan, Taxotere

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2012

    Gemmie- here is the link to the clinical trial for the use of Claritin for the bone pain from the Neulasta shot.  it is the Loratine, the main chemical in Claritin that is supposed to help with the bone pain pain. 

    http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01311336

    Gald your 1st time in the big girl chair went fine!!!  Here's to minimal side effects from your 1st round!!!  Glad you were able to get the Ativan with your infusion.... I took it during the 3 rounds I've had so far and take only during my infusions to help take the edge off.  Since my onco offered it to me, I said"Sure and why not?".  I couldn't think of reason not to take it.      

  • mclark55
    mclark55 Member Posts: 168
    edited June 2012

    Vickilind61:  I so remember what I felt like when I was anticipating my first chemotherapy session.  Meditation really helped me SO much.  In fact, I created a healing meditation for myself that I used every time I sat down in "that chair".  Here it is (hope it helps):

    This treatment is my friend.

    It is powerful.

    It will ensure I'm never ill again.

    The healing elixir entering my body contains beautiful rays

    of healing energy.

    I just repeated that a few times (with my eyes shut and concentrating on visualizing that nice, white light entering my veins) and it instantly put me at ease.  I hope that helps you!  You might also like to look at one of my blog pages about anxiety remedies: http://marnieclark.com/10-anxiety-busters-for-breast-cancer-patients/ .

    Sending hugs!

  • mistym
    mistym Member Posts: 58
    edited June 2012

    Hi again,

    Thank you for the advice/comments on the port placement.  They are doing it late in my treatment cycle as my first one was on May 29th and 2nd is this Tuesday.  I do still have a cold but have not had any fever so am hopeful that my white blood cell count will be okay especially since I had a week of Neupogen inujections.  I will let you all know how I do tomorrow when I get home.

    Hugs,

    Misty

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited June 2012

    My BC exercise classmates seemed amazed at my energy, which was surprising since I feel like an old lady.  The said they "sat" through their whole chemo no excercise.  I feel like not going every time.  I drag myself there.  In my reading, it is the best help for fatigue (my middle name) and is the most effective anti-recurrance action we can take.

     I have never been good at sticking with excercise and now my life may very well depend on it.  Just want to put that out for my own self-acountability.

     Thanks all for the suggestion on the cookbook "The Cancer-fighting Kitchen".  It looks great.  I also ordered "Anti-Cancer, A New Way Of Life" by Dr. Servan-Schreiber.  I am totally into it.  It is the best layman's explanation of how cancer grows and how to create an anti-cancer environment in the body that I have seen.  And the author had brain cancer. 

    I feel that I am moving from that "hit by a truck" helpless stage adjusting to having cancer-- to my own plan for my future health.  Wish me luck.

    s

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