Calling all TNs
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Dormac - yours is way funnier. Good one. I like that.
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DorMac and CS - Thanks for giving me great reasons to laugh.
I have a question about %s. I was initially dx'd TN, but apparently my subsequent pathology after my bmx in Oct showed about 1% for ER. That didn't come up until I was about halfway through chemo and was going over something with my MO. She said 1% is still considered TN. I'm not a big soy eater, but I was cleared to go back on my birth control (IF my period comes back) by my MO and gynecological onc, who also said I don't need to worry about an ooph until I'm nearing 50, even though I'm brca2, because the avg age of ovarian cancer for brca2 is 53 or 54. I do plan on the ooph a little sooner than that (I figure this gives me time to regroup), but should I be concerned about estrogen, soy, etc?
I peek in here from time to time. I just had my exchange on Thursday and am doing well, and 10 weeks pfc and doing pretty well, aside from some lingering neuropathy and occasional fatigue. Lots of little blessings to be thankful for. I'll look forward to checking in every once in a while.
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rache...egads..I hate soy...never eat the stuff...
Tazzy...ok..you graduated from chemo..that is HUGE...personally..I will take surgery and rads over chemo anytime!...but JMHO..
soo...Bernie...Cleveland hey? how did you come up with Cleveland in your joke? I love one hour from Cleveland..went there yesterday..to the newly opened casino, then to the Hard Rock Cafe, then to see Crosby, Stills and Nash at a pavilion on the Cuyahoga River...we had so much fun...long day..from 2 until 1:00 am but it was worth it...CSN is pretty good for 70 year old guys..a couple of 50 year old plus ladies..which had imbided some alcohol and pot came and sat right in front of us..one of them missed the seat and ended up in my DH's lap...he was in shock...she give the "peace" sign and took off...hilarious.
And for you ladies diagnosed in your 50's...we know that tn is usually younger ladies but on this thread we tn's seem to run the gamut on age...we've got 30's to 60's and maybe older...I really hope they find out what causes this crap in my lifetime...
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Titan.... I have heard other people say that about chemo. If you can get through chemo then the rest in comparison is way easier. Very encouraging - thanks and I am happy to hear your JMHO.
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Thank you ladies for responding about my pre-exam freak out. I'm at a point where I can go for long stretches without thinking about BC at all.......but then when it's time for a doc appointment or test, anxiety just takes over. I guess it comes with the territory.
OBYK - I wasn't the one with the flip flop story.....that was SusieSue's post. Although I'm totally capable of doing the same thing!
Rozie - Welcome. I had the same treatment you'll be having. I hope it goes well for you!
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Love this thread! You ladies are one in a million!
Hope everyone has a lovely evening with minimal SE!
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Ditto...I love this thread, too. You just never know what'll be the topic of the day. Imagine the fun we'd have it we all got together. Let's all go to New Zealand to see CockerSpaniel...lol.
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LuvRVing - Michele, just checked out your updated site to read about your tour of the Louvre. Sounds very interesting. I think if I ever visit Paris, I'll put a fake cast on, rent a wheelchair and get the "deluxe" tour! By the way, besides making me hungry, you must have really enjoyed your crepes from Mumbles as that is the second time you posted pictures of them! Perhaps you should be looking into setting up an american franchise for them. But, really, thanks for the posts - it seems that you all had a really great time and we get to see Paris through your eyes while sitting at home dealing with our various SEs. Do you still have more to post? Hope everything else is going well for you, too.
Doreen
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Hey Sugar... I'm in total agreement with you on ALL going to visit Cocker in NZ - now what a trip that would be eh?
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thanks for the laughs tonight!!!! am enjoying this thread greatly because it makes me feel as if I'm not alone!!!
hope everyone is doing well.
Kelly
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Good Evening Ladies
Well Sugar and Tazzy and anybody else who wants to come. You would all be made very very welcome. We would have a blast and laugh from dawn till dusk. Wouldn't that be great.
I went to see my oncologist today and ended up with me legs in the air showing off my 'girly bits', I just love that 'girly bits'. There is something so elegant about that. Tell yer you aint got no secrets when you got BC and she had a student in the room, though to be fair she did say would I mind and I didn't know she was going to 'look' when I said no I didn't mind. Anyway she said to give the boil a few more days and it should come right without lancing. Lancing, nobody mentioned to me anything about lancing. They can keep their bloody hands off cause I can hardly walk or sit let alone let them lance it. I told her about me tingly fingers and she said there is another chemo I could have but its every three weeks again and could cause nausea and vomiting so I said thats quite alright I will go on with Taxol even if me hand falls off.
Kellycbk - welcome. You will never be alone on here girl. Glad you enjoy the laughs.
Tomorrow I am half way there. My 6th taxol. Me old fellar is making some cakes for us to take in for morning tea to celebrate. If it was the last one I could understand it but I've still got six more to go. Still he likes to do things like that. Feeding people up gives him pleasure. And, I have put on 1.6kg. My onco said that was good. Whats good about putting on weight? I'm sure it was the new hat I brought.
Titan - your back. Have you been running. Not long until your race.
Kathrynn - Psssst Chloe has already been shipped to Karen complete with baggage with no return address!
Have a good day ladies. Tomorrow night after Dexamethasone I will be sitting here all night again. Love yer to bits. Annie
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She was standing in the kitchen
Preparing to boil eggs for breakfast,
wearing only the 'T' shirt that she normally slept in.
As I walked in almost awake,
She turned and said softly,
'You've got to make love to me this very moment.'
My eyes lit up and I thought,
'I am either still dreaming or
this is going to be my lucky day.'
Not wanting to lose the moment,
I embraced her and then gave it my all;
right there on the kitchen table.
Afterwards she said,
'Thanks,'
and returned to the stove, her 'T' shirt
still around her neck.
A little puzzled, I asked,
'What was that all about?'
She explained. .
'The egg timer is broken' -
BernieEllen - You crack me up! You and CS could go on tour together as a comedy duo! Thanks for starting my day with a laugh!
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CS - MO stands for medical oncologist, as opposed to the radiation oncologist, the gyno oncologist, etc.
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Hello ladies, I'm hoping to hear some good advice from some of you again. My mom is having a horrible, horrible time with her side effects. It seems like after her last AC, it hit her the hardest. She is having a hard time with her breathing, really out of breath. She can hardly walk through the house without being totally out of breath. I don't know how she's going to finish her treatment if she doesn't get better. In the beginning, she'd start feeling better right before she had to go back for her next treatment, but lately she's been down the entire time, she hasn't been able to do anything at all. Her oncologist's office doesn't really seem to be much help. We asked about it at her taxol treatment last Thursday, and her onc. said she was anemic and had a little bit of a cold, so she gave her a shot, can't remember the name of it, and my mom was on antibiotics, which did help a lot with her cough. She has had pretty bad asthma her entire life, so I'm sure that is not helping either. Did any of you experience this? What did your onc. recommend? My mom still has three taxol's to go, and I'm worried she will give up if she doesn't start feeling better, at least for a few days at a time.
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Loving the laughs!
Annie - Woo Hoo! On making it to 1/2 way. I hope this one is an easy one.
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Doreen - LOL, I guess I really liked Mumbles!!! Yes, we did indeed! And I do have a few more days to document. Trying to fit that in with things like doctor appointments, chaperoning third grade field trips, attending DGD's dance recital and celebrating her birthday, and reading the naughty Fifty Shades trilogy
If I don't hurry up and get with it, my chemo brain will have scrambled the facts!LNBCA - I noticed some significant fatigue by the time I finished AC and started Taxol. I think I did the same protocol as your mom (DD AC/T) and I am 62. My energy level improved significantly even while on Taxol. And a few weeks PFC, I was much better. If your mom is anemic, ask her doctor about taking a pre-natal vitamin that has both iron and folic acid. I found that helped a whole lot. And make sure she's getting enough quality protein - I was told to eat 100 grams a day.
Congrats, Annie, on reaching the halfway point. It's all downhill from here!!!
And you and BernieEllen are just too funny! Thanks for the belly laughs!
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Half way there Cocker... what a feeling that must be.
Kellycbk - you will never feel alone here.
LNBCA - someone will sure to be here soon to offer some advice for you and your Mum.
Just watching our news... there is a beached hump back whale just south of Vancouver, place called White Rock. Not looking very good for the poor thing... high tide is a few hours away. Vet on site said whale in a very distressed state.
Enjoy your days ladies !
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LNBCA, I too experienced the shortness of breath and was a little anemic but don't have asthma. Walking upstairs was taxing. My MO said being anemic added to the shortness of breath. Since I was still able to get around, my MO did not seem that worried about it and did not prescribe anything. So, I tried to up my protein intake with things like smoothies with protein powder added. It seemed to help (maybe it was all mental). I also tried to get up and move even if it was only for 10 min on the exercise bike. They have these tx's timed so that when the body has recovered enough, it is time for the next one. Make sure your mom is drinking and eating enough too. Not enough can add to fatigue. With your support, I am sure she will get through this. Good luck!
CS, hope those girls bits get better soon! Yipee for 1/2 way done!
Had my bone scan and CT scan yesterday so waiting to hear the results. I got copies of the actual scans but who am I kidding, I don't know what I am looking at!!
For all you natural comedians, enjoy the jokes...keep them coming. I find myself coming here with anticipation of a good chuckle!
Great day to all with lots of positive energy! -
Beached baby whale is dead
seems caught in a fishing net whichi immobilized it. -
Rachel, with respect to soy, the jury is still out on whether it helps or harms women with BC, ER+ or not. There are trials ongoing now, looking at the possible benefits of soy consumption. A few years back, there was a lot of stuff circulating about how it promotes cancer growth, but recent evidence has disputed that. Best to ask your doctor's opinion. In the meantime, here are 2 reputable takes on the subject... each suggests soy is okay in moderate amount from diet (not supplements).
http://www.breastcancer.org/tips/nutrition/reduce_risk/foods/soy.jsp
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LNBCA - It seems like your mom has a few factors which are causing the shortness of breath, asthma and the anemia. I understand from your post that maybe she has finished AC and is going to continue with Taxol. AC was really bad for my breathing. I have a CPAP machine due to a sleep disorder which throws forced air through your nose when you sleep. I swear if I did not use the CPAP after AC, I would have died. I also could not breathe. The day of chemo, I highly depended on my CPAP machine to sleep through the night and also just to be able to breathe. I am wondering if your mom gets the neulasta shots after the treatment. That is a must which brings up the blood white and red cells to normal. Once the blood levels are normal, one should start feeling good again. I would never take iron tablets on my own, it always should be supervised by a doctor. I had bought some, but never dared to take it. The medical staff need to pay attention to your mom, yell at them if you have to.
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Thank you very much for the replies everyone. It's about to come to that point Lovelyface...her onc's office has just been really out of the loop lately, and it's really starting to piss me off. I guess they would pay more attention to things if it were them dealing with this crap. Yes, she has just started her Taxol. I was hoping she would start to feel a little better with the Taxol, but so far she is still not able to do anything. And she's not the type to ask questions, or try and help herself to feel better. My aunt and I go to her appointments with her, otherwise we would have no clue what is going on. I am thinking of calling the office to see if a prenatal vitamin might help.
Lovelyface-is that a Doxie in your profile picture?
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LNBCA - I had to have a blood transfusion after 4 A/C and before my Taxol started. I was literally crawling up the stairs and felt SO faint all the time. My breathing was terrible and I was pretty well labour breathing at the least little effort just to try and get air in my lungs. The blood did WONDERS and I was able to finish the chemo. I also had a terrible cough (chemo cough) from the A/C as it burnt my sinus' and my sinus' were swollen so everything drained down my throat. The cough lasted until 3 weeks after my last A/C and then it just went away as my sinus' healed. I would ask about a possible blood transfusion. My red cells were at 82 and a normal LOW is 105. I had the neulasta shots but I was told those were just to help the white cells recover so you don't get sick. I never had an issue with my white cells. Good luck to your Mom
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Ok, we'll be sure to check on the blood transfusion. There is definately something going on. My aunt is taking her to get a chest xray this morning. That sounds a lot like her these last couple weeks, she literally can't walk through the house without needing to sit down or lay down to catch her breath. I can tell it's hard for her to even talk, just doing that takes a lot of effort.
Thank you again everyone for your replies. I appreciate you all taking the time to offer advice and well wishes!!
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SusieSue - that was a great story with a wonderful ending. Congrats.
Lovely - feel so bad for Robin Roberts, but she so lucky to have a sister who's a perfect match. I was told about the leukemia risk also but I didn't realize it was as high as 1:1000. Fiji sounds lovely.
Roxie - Welcome to the group. Very sorry about your Mom. Mags is right, ask away and don't be shy. No need to be embarrassed to ask anything, because someone here has had the same exact problem.
Borntosurvive- So nice to see you. Maybe because I'm older I've given up on the concept of "normal". I'm seeing people my age have strokes, heart attacks and just had a friend dx'd with Parkinson's. I guess my feeling is at my age, there is no normal for anyone, they're all dealing with trials and tribulations of some kind. For all you younger ladies, it just plain sucks!!!!!
Dormac - I SO HAVE some guys
to use that egg timer joke on!
Rachelvk - Nice to see you again, too. I eat soybeans but I'm not ER+. (I actually eat them because I like them). May I voice my opinion on something? (it's just my opinion, and totally respect that what you choose is what is right). If I was BRACA + , I wouldn't wait to get my ovaries out. Ovarian cancer is silent (no obvious symptoms early on) and deadly. I had a hysterectomy in my early 40's and wanted the doc to leave the one good ovary. She advised against it for two reasons. First, high chance of ovary going into surgical shock and being useless. Second, "why would you want to be walking around with a ticking time bomb in you"? At time I regretted the decision but now that I've been dx'd with TN (long story, don't know my BRACA status). I am so grateful to have had them removed.
Kelly - you are not alone. We'll always be here to twit and harass you!
OBXK - So jealous, have never had a chance to see Bonnie live. I used to play "Hear Me Lord" on my way to chemo.
Titan - that was hilarious, nice to know we "Rock on" no matter how old we get. When we get really old we can look forward to throwing our Depends onstage.
LUVRV - i'll be off to read your post, it's my vicarious vacation
Cocker - *hangs head and looks guilty*. Sometimes it's best to give people just the information they need, not all the information. Trust me if they lance it, it only hurts for a second, and feels immediately better because all the pressure is relieved. By the way, you ARE a much better patient than me. If some doc was in my "Girly bits" and started talking about lances, I don't think I could have resisted the urge to ask him, "and how big a lance would we be talking about
here"?
Tazzy - poor baby whale. Rads are a pain because you have to go everyday, but much easier than chemo. There is one thing I want to mention, that happened to me. My first visit the rad onc, explained that sometimes people's breast either swelled or shrunk with radiation ( I was not happy to get that info at that point, I think it should be presented to you before you make your surgical choices). I went from pre-surgical "you may have a small dimple or indentation" to a post rad breast that is two sizes smaller than her sister". It is what it is, but I just think they should tell you this in the beginning, not halfway through treatment.
LNBCA - LUVRV and Lovely gave you great advice. ( I am the opposite of Lovely though, I just started taking a small dose of iron when I was anemic. I'd still be anemic if I was waiting for my doctor to tell me).
It definitely sounds like your Mom has a combo of lung problems and anemia that compounds it. (less red blood cells = decreased ability of blood to transport oxygen). It sounds like they are watching it, because they did give her an antibiotic. I don't know which shot they gave her, there are two. Neulasta helps produce white blood cells, and Epogen helps boost red blood cells. I was pretty short of breath by the end of chemo, but it got better quickly. Make sure they are checking her blood values frequently. If she gets to low, they can and will give her a transfusion, but they don't do that till your blood levels reach a specific point. (and if she is so short of breath that she would consider stopping chemo, they may consider doing it. If you don't get what you need, you could also have a pulmonologist do breathing tests, which would show exactly how her lungs are currently coping. But again, anemia and shortness of breath are pretty much a normal with chemo. -
Good morning ladies...
Karen....I hope you are doing better today. It sucks to be so stressed. Just keep taking that Ativan for as long as you need them. I take a 1/2 from time to time just to mellow me out. I am hoping i can stop that as soon as these damn steroids wear off. I spent 12 hours in my yard yesterday just trying to wear myself out so I could get a good nights sleep. It worked!
CS.....I too had a boil show up towards the end of my Taxol treatment. I did sitz baths and that seemed to help. Definitely not fun, but it will go away. The neuropathy was helped by taking a glucosamine powder. Mine lasted a few weeks and I no longer have any lingering effects.
Minxie....I have so far had 10 different kinds of chemo so I wonder why the focus is only on the A/C T success. I would be more than happy to go into detail the whys and whats of each. Just PM me if you want more info.
Bak....welcome back! How are you doing post everything?
I was asked on Saturday where I got my hair cut. The whole question just threw me for a loop. You see I started to loose my hair just two days before my last chemo and had almost glued it to my head with hairspray to get just one more weekend out of a longer do. I just looked at the poor lady and said "Oh honey, this is after chemo hair. I got it done at Swedish Cancer Institute, it's kind of expensive". Poor thing. At least no one asked me when my baby was due. Ugh!
I belong to a fantastic women's group. We pick a charity a month and tonight we are decorating bras for an upcoming bowling for boobs event. We have done some very fun bras but this year with my lack of girls I was thinking a plain tank with "flat chicks rock" or a picture of the album cover from Head East "Flat as a Pancake". What do you guys think? Any other fun suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Have a wonderful day! Love to you all!
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LNBCA I was very weak with chemo, like needed help to get to bathroom. My WBC was always very low one week post infusion. Oncologist always prescribed antibiotic. My RBC was always near normal which was hard to believe. I received ACT all at once x 6 at 3 week intervals. Usually I could get to family room about a week before next infusion. I needed a wheelchair to get from car to each station at cancer center. That was a year ago and today my only concern is recurrence.
I was stunned with Robin Robert's diagnoses. No one told me about this possibility. I understand she is triple negative too. She's such a dear person and I admire her greatly. I love how all the ABC news people gathered around her for support.
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Oh yes, Everyone: give me heads-up time to get my passport renewed. I ready to head to NZ and kick back with Cocker.
LNBCA I should have added that I was 69 at the time. How old is your mother?
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LNBCA - I am so thankful that your mom has you and her sister during this time, that is wonderful. My friend talks very highly about prenatal vitamins. She is 53'ish and buys them from Kaiser Hospital, over the counter. She said it helps with many of her menopausal symptoms. I hope it helps your mom. That is my son's precious dachshund in my profile pic. She is the love of my life, so cute, so precious. She showers all her love and attention on me whenever I am asked to go petsit her and two other dogs. I only had interaction with dogs when I was a child back home in Fiji, so had forgotten the characteristics of animals. Lately, I feel that I have reunited with my old love for animals.
Born - thanks for clarifying that neulasta only helps with white blood cells and not red blood cells. My treatment memories are fading away, since it has been almost 2 years since diagnosis. In a way it is good that my memories are fading, however, I don't want to give out false info. So thank you for correcting that.
Kathyrnn - Very good note on Ovarian cancer - a silent killer. A family friend is going through second round of chemo for that. She said the docs took a very very long time to diagnose her with OC the first time, as the symptoms were so unrelated. She was checked for stomach problems, put on antibiotics, colonoscopy etc. Turned out it was ovarian cancer, stage III. She was treated once, but now it is back again, horrible stuff.
Inmate - so good to hear from you. And I love your remarks regarding the hair......ha! ha! ha! I don't think anyone can understand the reality of it all, unless one goes through it.
OK Ladies, I have a huge scare right now. One thing is not over yet, another nightmare is on the way. I told you, it is non-stop. I am going to have my second biopsy for thyroid this Friday, so at least now finally I have the authorization and appointment.
For the last few days, however, I have been feeling that my BC breast nipple has been burnng. This morning I had ice in my bra, it was feeling so burned. And under my arms on the same side, I feel a lot of little bumps and lumps and pain. I am just so sick of this. I had to call my BS and ask the office staff to have her call me, let me know what to do. My 6 monthly MRI is due in August. Since I have those abnormal epithelial cells on the right side (non-cancer), I am supposedly a "high-risk" patient, so they give me MRI's every 6 months (or is it every year?). I dunno, but I am supposed to have one. Now I am totally freaking out about this burning. I am thinking, God, let it be the flax seeds. I was eating flax seeds with yogurt, as the cottage cheese was giving me stomach ache. They say flax seeds are very estrogenic. Maybe that's what it is. I am not sure what the BS will recommend. I am so so so very sick of my life, I hate seeing doctors, but it seems like I cannot live my life, without having to see so many of them, one after another, week after week.
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