April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • rgina
    rgina Member Posts: 100
    edited June 2012

    I do my very best at staying positive - regardless, but damn, is it not possible for this household to all be healthy at the same time?  I am sick of sick.  For a little over 3 years it's been my daughter (whose been through too much at her age), her breast cancer at age 26 and treatments of TCH, radiation and Herceptin all of 2009, then she had stomach issues and gall bladder out in late 2010 and then panic attacks and PTSD (from all the health issues and other), then other issues and a complete hysterectomy in January this year. Then I found my lump in February (me - never sick, not even a seasonal cold for at least the last 8 years) and here we go again.  Now daughter's cracked a tooth/infection/and miserable on antibiotics and I'm starting to get worried about TX#2 Friday whether she's going to be feeling okay by then.  What if I'm not as lucky as last time and if not whose gonna drag their rear outside to take care of all these critters, check water resources/feed, etc., in this way too early relentless heat and humidity?  BLAH, BLAH, BLAH - gripe, gripe, gripe!  Thanks, feel better, vent over!

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited June 2012

    Temp taken three times since this am.  98.6 each time.  Am actually able to work from home today!

    Sandik:  How exciting.  Congrats!  Wishing you a speedy recovery so you can move on to the next phase of your treatment. 

    Vballmom:  Get well.  I worry about you!

    Gemmie:  Good Luck tomorrow!

    Dancetrancer: You and the darned thrush!!! 

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012

    Yay to Sandik and Wildflower for the last A/C!  I'll be on my last one on June 21. 

    I am not pulling out my eyebrows; just seems that while they've thinned anyway the last few years, now the last couple of times I've showered there's hardly anything much the further they get away from my nose.  The ends are practically invisible.  I don't think my lashes are falling out yet, though.  Oh, well.  I had a discount card from my salon as a birthday gift and treated myself to a brow kit that I ordinarily would not have purchased.  

    I find it very interesting how many MOs just seem to give Neulasta/Neupogen as a preventive, almost, and how many (like mine) only do it if counts actually warrant it.  So far after three treatments on A/C, I haven't had to have any injections.  I am taking a Chinese herbal supplement called Marrow Plus that I heard about "here", which I started a week or so prior to tx#3, and I'm hopeful it is making a difference.  I'd sure rather not have those injections if I can avoid them!  

    So as far as figuring out whether white counts are normal and what is neutropenic:  Kaiser gives you online your test results and what are normal ranges. The day of my tx#3, my numbers were:

    WBC's automated count:  my result 4.4.  Standard range is 3.5 - 11.0.  It says units - thous/mm3.

    Neutrophils segmented %, BLD:  my result 61 (no standard range listed)

    Neutrophils, segmented count, BLD, Qn, man:  my result 2.7. Standard range is 1.7 - 7.5. Units - thous/mm3.  

    I was just told this was all good.  It is definitely higher than the counts the day before tx#2 (when I had my port placement):

    WBC's automated count: 3.5 (right at the bottom of the standard range).

    Neutrophils, segmented %, BLD: 45

    Neutrophils, segmented count, BLD, Qn, man: 1.6

    One other thing I can tell you - one day makes a HUGE difference.  The day before I had my port placement my counts were below the normal ranges, i.e., my neutrophils segmented count, BLD, Qn, man was .9.  I wasn't taking anything at all (hadn't started the Marrow Plus yet) and they popped up the next day.   Again, this was almost a full 3 weeks after my first treatment.

    If I did this right, my most recent ANC was 2684.  I hooooope that trend continues.

    On the other hand, I also hope I'm not getting thrush.  I've been lazy about the baking soda rinses this time because I didn't get the little blisters after treatment and the canker sore I had the day of healed up within just a couple of days afterward.  But now foods that are a little spicy are making my throat hurt a little, and I can feel some "rough" spots on the inside of my gums near my teeth.  Checking for white patches, hopefully nothing.  

  • RoulaG
    RoulaG Member Posts: 239
    edited June 2012

    Just checking in, still feel like crap! Just saying... Gentle (((hugs))) to all who are in need of them today.

  • rgina
    rgina Member Posts: 100
    edited June 2012

    kjiberty - excellent on the temperature.

    vballmom - you've really been through the wringer with all this and I can't even imagine the frustration.

    dance and melrose - thanks again for the info regarding the blood work and shots, both of you always have such great information.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2012

    vballmom- Sorry you are having a tough day !!!!  We know one thing is for sure.... that chemo is definitely making its presence known in your body!!!  Hope you are able to get something down today--- perhaps some of that Magic Mineral Broth that dancetrancer had the recipe for!!!  Hugs....!!!

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited June 2012

    I am back home. Tx to one of the onc dr & he thinks the premeds messed me up & they need to be tweeked. He didn't think I had an infection but that the steriods/benadryl were to much for me. I should not have reacted that way. Will tx to my dr be4 infusion so this doesn't happen again.

  • Fierro6
    Fierro6 Member Posts: 224
    edited June 2012

    Observations I made today:

    • I do not have time for cancer.
    • I cannot afford to have cancer.
    • I do not want to lose my hair.
    • I am angry about my cancelled vacation. 
    • I'm angry that having a JP drain for 6 weeks allowed only one TE fill, and because of my dose dense plan, there will likely be no more until after chemo.

    OK.  Got that out of my system.  I see MO at 9:30 tomorrow morning for the first time in over 2 months, and if all is well, I go straight downstairs for my first round in the chair.  DH is going this first time.  I'm trying not to be nervous, but I'm failing miserably.  I'm kind of a wreck.  As with everything that cancer is making me do, the first time is scary and then I know what to expect and I'm fine.
     
    Although, I must say, you ladies have done an amazing job of letting me know what to expect. Thank you for that. 
  • Gemmie
    Gemmie Member Posts: 103
    edited June 2012

    Melrose,

    Thanks for the good wishes. The day was changed, however, to Wed this week as the clinic had overbooked for tomorrow. But yes I do have all my "stuff" ready to go and am as mentally ready to go as I ever will be, I guess.

    Thanks to all for the support.

    Gemmie

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited June 2012

    Vballmom my thoughts are with you. The steroids make me cry. Also my MO said the "cummulative" SEs and crud we have to deal with add up and take a toll causing situational depression. I can cop to that without a flinch.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012

    rgina - That is surely too much.  I have been told that things do not really happen for any good reason, most of the time, they just happen.  But that would still leave me wondering why.  Your daughter is a special young lady, that much is obvious.  I will hope that she feels better not only in anticipation of Thursday, but so she also just feels better. 

    I wish I could tell you something better than to hang in there - I know you will.  You are both obviously warriors.  

    Hugs and purple energy to you both!

  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited June 2012

    @Fierro - I'm totally with you on all of that.  I HATE to cry but I just sobbed in bed one night (thank God for my hubby) that "I don't WANT TO DO THIS!"  I still feel the same way but have come to accept it to a degree (still resent it's intrusion in my life!).  And I have started to turn a corner maybe?  For as many times as I'm angry, mad, etc. I look back and thank God for the blessings I have or have had.    It's definitely a unique journey and I am thankful every day to have all of you to travel this journey with me.

  • angiephnx
    angiephnx Member Posts: 36
    edited June 2012

    Hello everyone! Thought i would start chiming in on conversations as all i do is stay home anymore. I have invasive ductal carcinoma, stage 2a, grade 2. I had my first chemo treatment (TAC) at the beginning of April and will actually have my 4th treatment tomorrow and am already dreading it! Someone mentioned something about ice chips earlier and I was gagging! Blah!

    Anyone just wanted to say Hi!

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited June 2012

    Angie:  Welcome!

    Fierro:  Just remember, we will all be thinking about you and we've already been in the BGC (big girl chair), so we are here to support you!  

    Temp still good. Bad news is my mom is sick (she lives in Michigan--450 miles away). The doc wants to admit, but she's too stubborn to go.  She has COPD and lung cancer and won't go because she will loose control.  I told if if she's in the ground, she will definitely have no control.  

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012
    kjiberty - Nobody likes hospitals, but you are so right.  I hope your mome changes her mind.  Thinking of you both.
  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited June 2012

    kjliberty - I hope she goes too.  none of like hospitals but sometimes they're necessary.

    so much for me not crying - I just watched the Robin Roberts clip on the news. :(

  • sandik
    sandik Member Posts: 482
    edited June 2012

    Isharvey, I was watching it while I was plugged in getting chemo. Such a strong woman. Went through all that we are going through. Now this. Hubby couldn't go with me today. My biz partner went. I was sitting there watching, thinking how much that totally sucks and my partner goes, that's you. You are strong like her. Well, that was all that took! Sobbing mess! Haha

    kjiberty, hope your mom goes in.

    Angie, welcome!

    Fierro! You've got this chickie! You are a strong woman! That always cracks my hubby up. (Friends episode when Chandler was trying to quit smoking and listened to the audiotape 'you are a strong and beautiful woman'

    Who was talking about forgetting stuff? I went to the bathroom, then went back in 5 minutes later, turned to reach for paper and realized that Im the jerk who left the bathroom with no paper and stranded myself! Dope!

  • Fierro6
    Fierro6 Member Posts: 224
    edited June 2012

    kjliberty - I, too, hope she changes her mind.  It's bad enough to worry about her, but the distance doesn't help, I'm sure.

    lsharvey822 - made me cry, too.  Everything makes me cry lately, but that one got me good. 

  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited June 2012

    I HATE crying but now that I've started I can't stop!  somebody send in the mops!

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited June 2012

    Isharvey:  I will be right there.  I cried when I saw the interview too.  I love Robin--she is my hero!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited June 2012

    Wow, we are an active group this afternoon!  Hugs for everyone who needs them today!!!!  

    lsharvey - yeah...the Robin Roberts story really got to me today, too.  So incredibly unfair. Frown 

  • rgina
    rgina Member Posts: 100
    edited June 2012

    Angie - welcome

    Kjiberty - I'm so sorry about your Mom and it's especially hard when they are far away, hope she makes the right decision and goes to the hospital, for her and for your peace of mind.

    Fierro - good luck tomorrow just think of all of us thinking about you and cheering you on.

    Sandik - thanks for the toilet paper laugh, I needed that!

    Indigo - hanging in is all one can do at this point and keep moving forward. 

    Lsharvey - I also had a night where I said to my daughter, you know I really don't want to do this.  I've had a good life, etc., I'm 62 years old - maybe I'll just skip this whole chemo thing.  You'd have to know us personally, but I thought she was going to thump me on the side of my head!:):)

    On a good note for me, I have a wonderful friend since highschool and that's a really long time.. Who I guess thinks I don't eat and has brought me 3 food care packages in the last 4 weeks of wonderful stuff, that I can't afford and/or really wouldn't buy for myself and she gets so excited when she brings it to me.  Today she said I just love shopping for you and I said I just love that you love shopping for me...

    Now I'm out of here, to feed the horses and get a little equine mental therapy.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited June 2012

    Angie - welcome!

    Fierro - remember to kick your feet in defiance of cancer as you sit in that big girl chair tomorrow!!!  The big C is going down - you GOT this!

    rgina - what a great friend!   

  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited June 2012

    @rgina - no way you're 62!!  you look amazing!  share secrets please! :)

  • Gemmie
    Gemmie Member Posts: 103
    edited June 2012

    Kjiberty, I too hope your mom changes her mind. And, try not to feel any guilt over her choice, whatever it may be, as it is her choice. You are doing all you can.



    Sandik, you were watching it WHILE in the big girl chair? Wow. Talk about commitment!

    You ARE strong.



    I haven"t seen the interview with RR. I think it would make me cry too and I haven't been in the big girl chair yet! It's just plain ole sad, and, as Dancetrance said, unfair. I wish Robin the best. I'm sure we will all be following her story over the next year (and well beyond I hope!)

  • vickilind61
    vickilind61 Member Posts: 338
    edited June 2012

    kjiberty, gemmie is right; whatever happens, it is HER choice.  You have to take care of YOU!  And love her through it all.

    sandik, I haven't seen the interview either, but to watch while you are in the big girl chair is impressive.  RR is one of the few (and I do mean few) big network news folks that I truly admire and respect.  Like all of you, I am sending her all my best thoughts and prayers.

  • Rose_d
    Rose_d Member Posts: 144
    edited June 2012

    Hello again everyone! I had my first taxol treatment today. What a difference from the A/C. It took a lot longer but I had no nausea while I was there. I still feel really good twelve hours later which I'm sure has a lot to do with all the steroids I had to take - 5 pills 10 hours before and another 5 pills 5 hours before. Yikes. But my stomach feels completely different this time around.



    Anyone who has already had their taxol, did you also have the steroids? They warned me that I probably won't sleep at all tonight which is just great. I so curious to know what will happen once I crash from these steroids. I almost forgot that I had chemo today!



    I go for the Neulasta shot tomorrow which I am not looking forward to. My reaction is pain in my TEs (feels like my sin contracts and they get very tight) and pain to the touch across my chest and back of my neck.



    Would love to hear from others when the bone pain and steroid crash happened for you. Fingers crossed that is one is truly much better than A/C.



    Emotionally, I've been like what everyone else has described. I took a "restorative yoga for cancer" class last week (was so excited to find it!) and almost burst into tears in the middle of the class.



    Robin Roberts hit me hard. I. So worried about the impact of all of the crap we are doing to our bodies. And i am not sure I could go through chemo again. It's so unfair.



    Good luck to everyone starting tomorrow!



    Rose

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2012

    Rose_d- The Neulasta shot wasn't too bad.  Had it injected in the tummy this past Wednesday and not in the arm.  The nurse also had me hold the shot to warm it up before she injected me.  Also took regular 24 hour Claritin, the morning of my afternoon injection and have followed up with daily doses since then.  So far, no bone pain from the Neulasta shot.  Maybe, I'm one of the lucky & fortunate people that the Claritin works for the bone pain.   As for the steroid crash, I take steroids for 3 days- (Monday- Wednesday)- the day before treatment, the day of treatment and the day after treatment.  Sleep is not great on those days but by Friday, I definitely start sleeping better.  The only problem with sleeping is the hot flashes that wake me up at night.  Good luck!!!

  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited June 2012

    I haven't even seen Robin's interview and I know it knocked me but we have to remember that we're all different and we'll all fight this monster with everything we have.  I hope all you ladies in the BGC this week have minimal side effects!  Love you all!

  • sandik
    sandik Member Posts: 482
    edited June 2012

    Rose, I was told that I wont need the shot with the Taxol. Im doing weekly infusions. Have you been having problems with your WBC?

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