Prophylactic hysterectomy/oopherectomy
Hi, I'll be getting a prophylactic hysterectomy/oopherectomy in a couple of months. The plan is to go laproscopically. How long will I be bed-ridden for? I ask because I am a single mom. My children will be in camp full time during the period, but I wonder if /for how long I may need to pay for an aide. The first 3 days? The first week? Two weeks? I expect that I won't be able to do much, no heavy lifting, over exertion, etc., and that's fine, but wonder if I can cope around the house myself/showering, cooking, very light housework after the first few days...my kids will get picked up by bus for camp, so it' s not like I need to drive them anywhere. I can microwave frozen dinners for a week, etc. Very much appreciate advice on what I might handle. Thanks.
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A couple good places to ask this question would be Facingourrisk.org and/or hystersisters.com
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Hey there - I had a prophylactic laprascopic hysterectomy/oopherectomy back in December 2010 following my diagnosis in 2009. My husband and I figured I was done having kids and on tamoxifen, may as well get rid of all the estrogen we can. Any way, I was out of work for 2 weeks. I am a veterinarian and have to lift big dogs quite often, not to mention on my feet all day. I'd say you might need someone to help you for the first 3-4 days. After that you should be okay. That was when my pain was the worst and I needed help getting out of bed, etc. After a couple of days the pain lessened to a point that I was able to switch over to Advil to control it. At that point you may be able to do some light cooking, but don't plan on any houswork for at least 2 weeks. The biggest thing that I noticed was fatigue. It takes a while for your body to heal. I took lots of naps.
I hope this helps.
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I had a LAVH with what I call an umpa lumpa-ectomy 6 years ago (endometrial hyperplasia), and I found the hystersisters.com site very helpful. I stayed home from work the full 6 weeks, but was able to move around and cook for myself after 3-4 days. My daughter helped out, then left after a week and I was on my own. It's doable. I found sleeping in a recliner very helpful for the first few weeks, and I had prepared food in the fridge and any heavy pots and pans out on the counter. Actually, I healed sooner and felt better in contrast to the pain I still have from my LX and SNB. Now would be the time to shine up the tiara and have everyone wait on you!
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KSD----- you should not be "bedridden" at all! I had to have a TAH/BSO (everything removed thru a very large abdominal incision---- could not have it done laproscopically due to large ruptured ovarian mass), and even after major surgery I was up out of bed walking that night after surgery. I got up myself, the nurse just tended to all the tubes. I walked several more times the next day, and took a shower the following day independently before leaving the hospital. (I'm a PT-----we get people right up nowadays from even the big surgeries to prevent complications). You will be a little sore , your heavy lifting will be limited, and you will need to rest frequently, but you shouldn't need any major help more than 3 or 4 days.
Anne
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Hello KSD, I had this done on Nov. 2, 2011 (a Wednesday), discharged from the hospital the following day, and back to work Monday. I was a little sore, but could handle it with Advil. Could have taken a few more days off, but since my job is not strenuous, and I wanted to move some, decided to go back. My surgeon used the DaVinci robotic technnique. For me, this was so much "better" than a traditional hysterectomy, which I liken to the C-sections I've had, which were much worse recovery-wise. Plan for an aide the first 3 days at least, up to a week just in case. Also, if you are taking narcotic pain meds for more than just a few days, that will also influence your decision. Best of luck to you.
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Re hystersisters: hanks but I find that hystersisters website incredibly busy and difficult to navigate. It sounds pathetic I know but I cannot find my way to simple information there, beyond an initial posting. So that's kind of a dead end for me but so glad it's helpful apparently to so many others!
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Lucia83, AWB, Jomama2, and Vetmom: Thanks very much for sharing your experience with me. I'll plan on having family stay the first 4 days, then make provisionial babysitting/housecleaning arrangements over the next 10 days....
I wonder if I will be switched off of tamoxifen pretty quickly- and Vetmom looking at your post it appears that's very likely - switched to an aromatase inhibitor. I am very comfortable with the idea of taking Tamo for another year so that I can get the minimal 2 yr benefit from taking it (though they say 5 yrs is optimal). Seems like a waste to have taken it for a year....do you know if it's possible if my oncologist would allow me to continue on Tamoxifen for another year, then switch me to arrimidex? AFter all, didn't tons and tons of postmenopuasal women up until just about 10 yrs ago take tamoxifen as Aromatase inhibitors are fairly new. Just trying to anticipate what the oncologist would say is wrong with doing that... Thanks.
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Hi KSD!
I had an LAVH in 1998 and was in the hospital less than 24 hours. This was for a complete hysterectomy due to fibroids the size of Volkswagens.
I didn't really have much pain in the hospital, and I wish I hadn't used the morphine PCA because I didn't need it.
My sister spent the first night at home with me because it was hospital policy. But I remember her boyfriend ringing my doorbell at 8 the next morning, and fixing him breakfast....grrrrrrr
I shooed them both out of there pretty quickly. As I recall, I just rested and napped for a day or so. I do remember the phone ringing on the third day or so, and running down the hall to answer it.
About halfway there, I thought to myself "this probably isn't a good idea....". Your body will let you know when you've overdone it. The beauty of the LAVH is tha there are very few sutures and they are internal. You might have a stitch or two where they insert the scopes, but otherwise it's a MUCH easier surgery to recover from than a traditional hysterectomy.
I took the maximum amount of time off work, not because I needed it, but because I could.
Honestly, I think you may be surprised at how fast you recover. It's always good to have help lined up just in case, though, especially with kids. That way it's there if you need it.
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I just had a prophyl. total hysterectomy 3 days ago. I feel amazing, considering there was removal of major organs. It was the typical LAVH. I am only on ibuprofen for pain now. I'm walking a bit slow, but still up and walking. I can't believe how easy it has been. I know it's not this way for everyone, so I'm extremely grateful it's worked this way for me. I am a stay at home mom, so I'm lucky I don't have to return to a desk job or anything. Right now I have family helping with daughter during the day, but I got her up and ready this morning without any problems.
I'll be starting arimidex this week. 5 years to go......
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I watched all of the procedures on youtube and decided to have it done vaginally and was up and about in 2-3 days walking in the neighborhood, etc. The problem with driving isn't that you can't or don't feel like it - but you will know when you're ready for the seatbealt to grab you across the midsection if you need to step on the brakes. It's a few weeks until you're ready for that "action"! Even then, I drove with a small pillow between me and the belt just in case. Also, the lifting is tedius. Even a small bag of dog fod (7 pounds) is too much to lift. Have people help you with groceries, even the gallon jugs of iced tea can be too much. I overdid it at the 4 week point (yes 4 weeks!) and popped 2 stitches (since I had it done vaginally, these were where the cervix used to be) and had to go back and have some fixing accomplished without pain meds, yeah, that was fun.. NOT! So please follow the doctors orders to a T or you'll have set back. You will be tired for a few weeks. I am not a napper so was surprised when in the afternoon I just felt like I had to lay down. I agree with another gal here on the thread - you'll be out shopping or whatever in the weeks after and you'll just know when you need to stop and are about to overdo it.
ON the other hand, how wonderful to have so many problems and potential problems gone. I had some huge uteran fibroids pop up out of nowhere and always had suspect pap smears. My periods were horrible. Then all of a sudden, nothing, yay! No more fear of certain cancers also felt great. The surgery was so worth it!! I should have done it years earlier. Best of luck to you.
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Continued good luck on your smooth recovery, Gamegirl. And congrats carpediem to your good recovery. Hope to follow in your paths, and I know that the peace of mind I gain will be great.
Gamegirl, you have a photo up that looks so young and no mention of fibroids. Can I ask why a hyster/oopher. was recommended? Was it a genetic mutation?
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I do have a BRCA2 mutation. Now, the risk for ovarian cancer isn't as high as it is with BRCA1, but it's still higher then the average population.
Before my mastectomy, I was diagnosed with DCIS. I chose at that time to have them both removed. I had a mammogram, magnified mammogram, MRI and stereotactic biopsy. Every single one of those missed the fact I had 3 IDC tumors in my left breast, and one on my lymph node. If the best tests we have for breast cancer aren't perfect, and we have even less for ovarian cancer, I wasn't about to take a chance. My ob/gyn and I debated about the removal of the uterus. She was neither for nor against it, so the decision was totally mine. And I know myself well enough to realize I would have done nothing but worry that there was cancer in it. I have always had issues with unusual bleeding, but never had fibroids or anything. I just decided to clean house and be done with it.
I couldn't be more pleased. It hasn't even been a week, and I'm not on any pain meds or anything. The only pain is when my bladder and large instestine have to do their work, and there is a space there they are filling in. My Dr assured me it will go away in a couple of weeks, once everything settles.
And thank you for thinking I'm young :-) I was 39 at diagnosis, 40 now.
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gamergirl That is crazy about the IDC not showing up. Thats one reason I went with BMX - even with 6 month sonograms alternated with 6 month mammos for last 8 years my IDC hid out. Mammo showed lump; radiolologist said probably another fibroadenoma but recomended core biopsy just in case- that showed as ALH. So had MRI of both sides and there was a small area that showed up on the other side that hadn't shown at all on the mammo.Had an MRI core biopsy on that side and it also showed ALH . Did 2 excisional biopsies, one on each side- the one that showed on the mammo turned out to be lcis (not alh) but the one that only showed on the MRI and was alh on the core biopsy was IDC. I have strong family history but negative for brac however I too was afraid of ovarian cancer cancer hiding out ( and my gyn and MO thought an oomphrectomy was a good idea too because of family history or vigilant surveillance) so I had my oomphrectomy at the same time as my DMX with TE's. (I already had uterus out many years ago) Felt great in a couple days- any pain I did have the 1st couple days was was DMX related, not oophrectomy . I couldn't believe it. I'm glad I had "the works" now for peace of mind. By the way you are young and way too young to have to go thru all this stuff! Best of wishes.
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Thank you, everyone, for your input on this issue. It's something that's been plaguing me these last few months and I hope I can come to terms with whatever is the right decision for me. I hope to see a breast specialist once I'm finished nursing my fourth daughter (she's 14 months, have now nursed a total of 58 months) and get some better input.
My sister was diagnosed with Stage 2B at 32. My paternal grandmother died of breastcancer, diagnosed before age 40 and my maternal grandmother died, riddled with cancer, thought to have started in the ovaries or breast, also diagnosed before age 40. Sister tested negative for BRCA mutations but we all know that doesn't mean a whole lot.
I struggle a lot with this decision but I'm leaning toward a double prophylactic mastecomy once the baby has weaned.
Thanks everyone.
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MeggM, more power to you! I must say, I think you are very brave and doing the right thing! While medicine has made such strides, we know really very very little, about cancer, genes, how it all works. Your family history is worrisome as you say, discovered gene or no discovered gene (at this point in our knowledge). If you go to very experienced surgeons at major medical centers, it seems there's little downside to the prophylactic action.
gamegirl and 2friedeggs: your stories are frightening but not surprising: I just was talking with a group of bc "sisters" IRT and three of us had stories of "missed" cancers...not because we weren't being 'watched' or screened, but because of the limits of medicine's technical ability. And yes, if this is bc, which supposedly is one of the easily screened for cancers, imagine ovarian!! All I needed was one pelvic ultrasound at Sloan Kettering to convince me I could never go through it again, let alone every 6 months as they were recommending. Don't get me wrong, I felt the radiologist (who came out and had a look herself after viewing the images she received) did a great job, I was very impressed: it was much, much more thorough than two others I had done in the last decade (pre bc but under anxiety attacks) by so called gynecological cancer experts. But yes, because I know the ability of an ultrasound to pick up an early ovarian cancer is much more limited than a breast mammogram, and I too have my missed bc mammogram story...I just couldn't go through that again, same reason I did the double bmx when cancer was supposedly only in one breast (but no mammogram found it, not palpable)...luckily I was still in stage 1 when it was caught anyway. So yes, very much share your mindset of needing a little bit of peace of mind on the other fronts as we all remain concerned re our IDC. Good luck to everyone!
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Gamergirl - I am 40 and within the past 2 weeks have been diagnosed with DCIS (Pre-surgery) and BRCA2 positive. I am I the midst of trying to schedule surgeries now. Had an appt with BS and GO. Have appt with PS on Monday. How long after our BMX did you have the hysterectomy?
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