Starting chemo Thursday, May 31 - June Group?
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Hi Pam, I actually take plaquenil for connective tissue disease, and hemorrhaged during both core biopsies. A small percentage of people get that as a side effect. While I don't believe it to be as serious as coumadin, it was heavy enough they wouldn't consider the mastectomy until I'd gone off for at least 10 days. That seemed to do the trick for the surgical biopsy and mastectomy, but I'm interested to hear if it is any different with port placement.
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Steelers, Itake Coumadin for lupus anticoagulant. Not lupus although I am familiar with it. Prior to my port placement I stopped Coumadin 5 days prior. I then did Arixtra shots once daily. Twenty six hours before surgery I did my last shot. I had the port surgery and it was uneventful. The next morning after surgery, I restarted Coumadin, and did Arixtra shots for about 5 days. I think I received bad advice to do Arixtra after surgery. This is rare but I developed a hematoma around the port. I also had an inexperienced technician access my port at chemo. This is rare too. She moved my port and I am swollen and black and blue!!!! This should not happen to anyone else.
When is your port placement? I am almost think you should follow the same mastectomy protocol based on my experience. However, I am just a regular person. Definately, call up the office and ask if you need to stop plavix Monday so you can be ready for surgery.
How soon after mastectomy did you restart plavix?? I have not had mine yet.
Pam -
Hi ladies - just popped in to answer Marcia's question about the tightening of TEs. Yes, that is common and you may feel it less so as your tx goes on - if you are receiving fills during chemo - you may not feel it lessen because the TEs are boing filled - kind of a catch-22. You can apply some coconut oil or cocoa butter and do some massage, imagine a clock face and push in opposite directions at noon, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock. This may help alleviate the tightness. A warm (but not too hot) bath is also helpful. Hang in there!
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Hi I start Chemo on 6/12/12. I was DX with IDC stage 1 grade 2 ER + PR - Her-. Had lumpectomy May 15 with SNB negative. Had oncotype DX test on tumor and came back with high risk of recurrence at 35. So chemo for me. Am having Taxotere and Cytoxan scheduled for 4 sessions and if I tolerate it well she wants to do 2 more to be taken every 3 weeks. I am not looking forward to this but in a way I want it done, with this test it shows a significant 12% dcrease in recurrence. Thank goodness for this test because initially I was set to have RADS and chemo pill for 5 years only. Am not looking forward to chemo but looking forward to help my chances. Good luck and God Bless everyone who is on this thread.
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Pam- I started the plaquenil right up the day after surgery and it was uneventful. I have what they call "undifferentiated" connective tissue disease, with elements of lupus, sjogrens, and sceloderma. My pre-op physical and blood work from the mastectomy is over 30 days old now and will need re-done, so I can't imagine getting a port in quicker than a week to 10 days anyway, so getting the question in on Tuesday should be good....it definitely is written on my notebook though! Arixtra does not sound like any fun.
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Welcome to all the new ladies and good luck as you start your chemo. I want to let you know that not everyone has bad se from chemo. My worse days were actually not until day 6-9. Until then I felt pretty good with minimal nausea and food aversions. On day 6 I developed diarrhea and had an episode each day that usually lasted about an hour to hour and a half. Compared to some of the things I had read on here my se were very mild. And, reading all of those really scared me, so I just wanted you to know se are not always horrible. I try to always keep a positive attitude about things and I hope that has helped too.
ElleBee- I loved the story!! It made my day! Keep up the positive attitude! -
Special- Thanks for the pointers. My last fill was on Wednesday and my first chemo was on Thursday. My PS won't do anymore fills until I'm done with chemo, so that is probably good, since they are really bothering me and keeping me up at night. I'll try the nassage you suggested. Thanks again.
Marcia
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I also start chemo soon, on 6/21, and I'm soooooooo scared! :-(
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Hello everyone,
You all sound like your in good spirits. Ellebee your story is so funny.
I'm not so clever, I tend to blurt it out when someone ask what I have plan for the summer.
Tammie- My BS always asked if I had any questions and I never knew what to ask. Just take each day as it is given and don't worry about tomorrow. If you trust your doctors they will let you know what you are suppose to be doing. The waiting is the hardest, but once you have a plan in place the anxiety goes away. (well I hope it does). We are here for you!!
Marcia- Sorry about the pain that your having. I received my neulasta shot on Thursday and I haven't experienced any pain yet. I'm kind of worried because the nurse sayed that I would and that would show that it is working. I cant believe I'm wanting pain.
Huggs to all
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Hi everyone,
Thought I would jump in.I have been reading for a while. This is my 2nd go around with chemo, diagnosed with recurrent May 17, 2012. Started A/C last Monday, been feeling horrible but doable. havent really missed any work so that is good.
I do not really even bring up my cancer if someone asks me what I am doing this summer. I just tell them ...oh swimming with my son, maybe a roadtrip blablabla...cancer doenst need to be the dominance in everything. I dont let it control what I am doing. I have told all my neighbors and daycare provider that my son goes to and of course family. Everyone knows about my last one so I dont hide if they ask.
Anyone else doing A/C?
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Dear CMom I know how you feel as with many people know how you feel. I will start mine this Tues 6/12. I am feeling scared, too but there are many many many people that have gone through the same thing that we will go through. Just stay positive and invision the chemo eating away at any rogue cells that may be in you. This should give you the strength to see the future. I am glad that there is a way to be helped by chemo and the many many people who did this before us can, then you will and I will. Good luck to you and all. I will let you know how mine went, and look on to yours and just know that this will give you a future. Stay positive, meet it head on. Hugs, and Bless all!!
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Dear Allis so very very sorry that you have to go through this again. Keep your head up and stay positive. This whole cancer thing is totally unfair. You have been through so much just hang in there. Keep us posted. Good Luck. Hugs
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Thank you so much, Rita. I will definitely be looking for your updates after your chemo. I do try to focus on the positive, but some days it's easier to do that than others. I guess today has been one of the down days.
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I want to say welcome to all the new people.
Cmomof4, I want to reassure you that chemo is not as bad as your imagine it to be. The side effects while unpleasant are manageable. I don't enjoy it but it is better than I thought it would be. I understand the fear. I am absolutely terrified of radiation. Does anyone here need that too and can they tell me it is not as bad as I imagine!!!
Marcia, hope your te are feeling okay. Yes. I am scared of that too!
Ellebee, thinking of you. Love your attitude and personality!
Allison, welcome I am doing Ac. I like the way you don't let cancer dominate.
Having faith, Good to see you!
I hope I did not forget anyone! I really like everyone here. How come such nice people get this?
Pam -
Welcome to the new ladies. So sorry that you found yourself here. I can't believe how big this thread is getting. I apologize in advance if I forget what is sayed or if I don't keep things straight. I agree with Pam, everyone here is so nice.
Today is my 6th day after my first treatment with the 3rd being the worst. I still find that I have headaches on and off. It may not have anything to do with the chemo maybe its just allergies. We've had a lot of wind were I live the last couple of days.
Does anyone know if the chemo accumulates in our bodies or is each dose about the same? If its the same this is very doable.
There are a few ladies that we havent heard from for a while. I pray that everything is going great. That you have so much energy that you cant sit still.lol
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Havingfaith, Great question! I was wondering the same thing but did not think of asking it!!! I am curious too. If it does not build up we can do it!!!!! I really am hoping the effects are not cumulative. I am guessing it does not build up otherwise people wouldn't feel good right before treatment.
Today I was able to go walking with a friend for 45 minutes!!!!! I feel so much better. I guess the way to build stamina is not to lay in bed feeling sorry for oneself!!!!! Pam -
Hi ladies - Some of the side effects are cumulative, but it is because of the "damage done" by each chemo. The chemo drugs has left, but some effects remain. My MO explained it like this, "you are shot with a bullet in the shoulder. The bullet itself is the chemo, it has entered through the front of the shoulder, proceeded through, come out the back, and is now lodged in the wall. So, the chemo has left your body. Unfortunately it has left a small hole where it went in, some damage on the way through, and invariably a large hole where it exited." Much of what happens in dealing with the aftermath of each chemo, and the cumulative effects, is like recovering from that damage caused by the bullet. Even though you feel much better before the next round of chemo, particularly the first several, there is still some residual effect. It is important to be aware of this, and listen to your body, so that you can mitigate the cumulative effects as you proceed.
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Howdy;
I am new to this whole thing. I was diagnosed about a month ago (IDC). I have my lumpectomy on Thursday (June 14th). So far i coping pretty well. After all I am not sick... However this whole chemo thing is terrifying me. I am 41 years old with a 7 year son. Full time job etc. I am going to be folllowing everyone's progress good and bad. Please be totally honest so I know what i am in for.
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Wow. Thank you for you post. So specific. Helps me figure out questions I need to ask when they finally get the lump out.
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SpecialK- by cumulative do you mean that even though I had minimal side effects with my first chemo I could have more and worsening side effects with each treatment? I am hoping this isn't the case.
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Thanks SpecialK for your analogy. So what is the best way to go about healing the wound before your shot again?
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mom24 - yes, that is what I meant. However, the cumulative side effects are usually specific. In other words, if you had nausea, were constipated, or had aching, altered taste, a headache - something like that will most likely not get worse. Because chemo has an effect on rapidly reproducing cells (like cancer cells) it does affect things like your soft tissue and blood cells. Your body's ability to produce red and white blood cells and platelets cannot recover swiftly enough with each round of chemo to completely rebound between tx. That is why you often see a stairstep situation with your blood counts with each tx. You may recover slightly, then go slightly lower, each time. This is why people are given Neulasta/Neupogen injections to increase white cells between tx. The red blood cells and hemoglobin are more problematic as there is not much you can do other than eat as much protein as possible - that is why you usually will become more fatigued as chemo continues. Hemoglobin is what provides oxygenation to your muscles. When they are not adequately oxygenated they can't move you around as easily, or accomplish normal tasks without tiring. Some experience increased heartburn as a result of the soft tissue in the esophagus becoming irritated, others have trouble with sore fingernails, and dry and cracked skin. Any cells that rapidly divide seem to suffer the cumulative problems. Usually, other than the fatigue, these other cumulative issues are nuisance problems, but when you are tired they seem worse! This does not happen to everyone, but it is important to realize that there is a possibility that subsequent tx may, or may not, be as easy as the first one. Conversely, some people feel that their first tx was the worst - it is difficult to predict.
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Special K, Good to "see" you! Thank you for clarifying. I hope the fatigue does not get worse. What can be more tired than tired!!!! When did the fatigue go away for you after treatment?
Pam -
I find that I want to respond to one post, but then I read the next post, want to respond to that, etc., etc.
To those of ou just beginning - I am only a little ahead of you, having had my first infusion on 6/7/12. I was very nervous, as I have been with each unknown part of my treatment. The actual chemo was probably the easiest part so far. The firstnight I was very tired, the second day almost normal. Days 3 and 4 found me sleeping, resting, tired most of the day. I work in a public school setting and today was supposed to be the first weekday vacation day, but we always have a 2-day summer institute these first days. My ride didn't pan out, but I drove myself (40 minutes) and lasted until the end of the day! I am going back tomorrow. It felt good to be doing something normal, that I would ordinarily be doing.
I am afraid of the cumulative effect and finding it hard to make any commitments for plans for the rest of all this.
One other se I have experienced (and it could just be me and not the chemo) - confusion!
Today at lunch, someone asked what my husband does for a living. I factually informed her that he teaches high school English, when he really teaches high school Math! Weird! Also, as I reread other posts I've written, I keep finding typos, misspellings, wrong words, poor grammar, etc. I'm usually a stickler for those kinds of things!
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Since this is my 2nd time around this game..this is what happened to me the first time. I did TCH. Treatment one was the worst as far as intestinal....i couldnt keep anything in me and I spent my son's first christmas running to the bathroom all night..ugh...but really after that all pretty good. Body aches did tend to get worse. My platelets tanked towards the end...almost had to get transfusion but recovered on its own. It really was doable
However this time, AC has kicked my butt BUT I did not take my decadron as told. I hated the steroids my first time. Made me wired and puffy. Mistake....deca helps the emend and nausea meds be more effective....so I will try and do 1/2 the does. I was getting sick on Friday, I have had horrible body aches but I keep working and keep going. I have a 2 1/2 year old so dont really have a choice.
Got my blood work today...I have almost no white count..this did not happen to me the first time. I had nuelasta too. So hopefully they recover so I can have chemo this Monday.
Dont be afraid of making plans. Plans can be cancelled....really dont let this run your life...you run your life! Cancer can suck it! I have lots of plans, may go out of town a couple weekends and if I am sick then I can cancel...not a big deal.
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Pam - Actually the fatigue changes - you are tired but can't walk without your thigh muscles burning, and short of breath, that kind of tired. It took me about 6 weeks to immediately recover, but a little longer than that to feel good. Keep in mind I had 5 surgeries prior to chemo.
Marcia - the stress of diagnosis is the more likely culprit for your confusion - the brain can only process so much at one time! Don't be too hard on yourself!
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allisontom911-
Wow, second time around in two years? Sheesh. You have certainly had a rough go of it, havn't you? I admire your determination and strength! A lot of women could easily get sucked into feeling defeated...but you are telling cancer to "suck it" instead! Awesome!!
For the new ladies to the site who have expressed fear of chemo: I am doing weekly doses of taxol and herceptin for 12 weeks. After that, I will do the popular AC combo with herceptin four times, over 8 weeks. Today was my second infusion of the taxol and herceptin. Last week my side effects were what I would call minimal (compared to what I was dreading). Day 1 totally drowsy from Benadryl, and slept GREAT. Day 2-3 I had constipation and reflux. OTC meds knocked both out easily. Oddly, Days 4-6 my nose would intermittently suddenly pour. So much so that I was a little embarassed. I would be talking with someone and the faucet would just TURN ON. Weird. Also, Days 4-6 I felt a weird, sharp, achiness in my pelvis. Sort of felt like my ovaries were aching. But this might have been some bone pain in the pelvic bone. Either way, it was uncomfortable, and there were a few times I need to stop and sort of wait for it to pass. But I didn't miss any work, and when I go to work, I am on my feet for 6-9 hours with little/no breaks. So believe me when I say it was not bad. YOU CAN DO THIS LADIES!! Now other women on this board are doing AC first. And it seems like more of a heavy hitter in terms of side effects. But they are getting through it. We will look back at this time in out lives someday and recall the discomfort, but it will seem brief when compared to other things.
So far, the best thing I can compare my discomfort to is the discomfort you feel during the last trimester of pregnancy. Actually, probably less than that so far.
I had my second infusion today. I will take senikot-S before bed to prevent constipation this time. And I am armed with my zantac as well.
This is for everyone: It dawned on me yesterday that I have let myself go this week and had not shaved my legs at all. I reached down to check them, and there was 2nd day stubble. It had been over a week! Ordinarily I could sand wood after a week (Heck I'm Irish - we're just a hairy bunch). So my leg hair seems to have stopped growing. PERK!!
Off to bed! Hugs to all!
ElleBee
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Special K, Thank you for the extra input re fatigue. I get down sometimes and think forever instead of temporary.
Marcia, I am having more trouble processing. The shock of diagnosis took ten years off my brain. It is getting better.
Ellebee, You have some great attitude! So glad to hear you can work. That is amazing! I bet you bring joy to your patrons more than you realize. Too funny about the leg hair. Today when I went to shave my right leg it felt unnaturally smooth! I still have my hair everywhere. Thursday is day 14 and I am freaking as I have not shaved it!!!! My right outer eyebrow turned white from the shock of diagnosis. My husband said you will be happy when its gone! He said admit it you have not been happy with your hair for years. You will look better without it! Scary thing is he is serious!!!! I am grateful for that!
I hope everyone else is doing well. Good morning hugs to all! I find it hard to keep track of everyone but my thought are with each and every one of you.
Pam -
I'm not starting chemo until July, but I met so many of you on the May 2012 Mastectomy group I was wondering if I could join this group, too, at least for a while?
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Teeballmom - Of COURSE you can join us. Heck, I have 5 months of chemo to look forward to so I am going to be around for a WHILE. Welcome, and make yourself at home. The ladies on this board are wonderful, and full of encouragment and support.
Sorry that you are part of this club at all. Please feel free to private message me any time!
All my best to you - ElleBee
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