Bad Burn on LE arm & Out of Town-- Please HELP!
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Mom2, do you mean the redness has spread to those areas? If so, please go NOW to the ER. This isn't a wait-and-see issue. I know you don't want to end up back in the hospital, and it's possible they'll just give you some IV antibiotics at the ER and send you back home. But you don't want to mess with the possibility of infection spread, because it can become systemic and it will take LOTS longer to recover from that.
Blisters are one thing, but a spread to new areas needs to be seen at once. Please take GOOD care of you!
Real gentle hugs,
Binney -
Mom2, no need to ever feel you need to be positive here with us, we deal very well with the 'rough" parts of cancer too.
I hope you have gone to the hospital, I keep good thoughts for you. I think you need the IV meds.
I have never realized how quick this can all flare up, I am learning with every post. Not learning to be afraid, but learning to be educated.
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Mom2, So sorry you have had to deal with all this. I sure hope you do not need to go back to the hospital. However, if you are getting new redness, you probably should! I have no idea how doctors/hospitals decide who gets what treatment, but when I had cellulitis, I was able to take my IV antibiotics from home. They set me up with the IV part that goes in my arm/hand and then once or twice a day I would put the antibiotics in. The rest of the day I could somewhat go about my business (I teach and worked four of the days) wearing a bandage over the iv so it didn't just dangle off my hand.
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Thanks Binney, Crystal & Annette...
It wasn't actually hot and lobster red like the arm was, but pink and warm. Today when I woke up it was less pink and more blistered (like the arm is now). Since my temp had dropped as of this morning, I was hoping this meant that last night's combination of rest, elevation and hydration (and taking the oral antibiotics on time!) was helping. After reading your message today, though, binney, I did call the doctor on-call. She thought that since I had had improvement since yesterday (she seemed less concerned with the blisters since I also had them all over my arm when they discharged me), I could use my judgment about going back in or waiting until I go back to the hospital tomorrow morning for my oncology follow-up. I was feeling so crummy that I asked my Mom and sister to take my boys for the day so I could rest (and so just in case I did decide to go in, I wouldn't have to scramble for childcare).
I'm not feeling as sick tonight, so I'm hoping the worst is behind me. I will see what they say in the morning. I'm sure that if they do want me to stay, I'll hear all of your voices in my head and won't hesitate to be admitted. I'm actually going to pack a bag just in case this time so I don't have to spend the week in mesh hospital underwear again! :-) (I'm just kidding--I've actually grown kind of fond of those stretchy soft underwear and the no-skid socks!)
Thank you once again for being there for me. I'm hoping to ‘give back' at some point, but in the meantime, know that your support has really made a difference for me.
Hugs to you all (and to all who've helped me in this thread!)... Good night...
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Mom2, I'm so glad your mom and sisters are pitching in to give you the rest you need to heal.
It can be hard to let others help, so good for you for calling on them!
Hope your doctor visit was reassuring and that you're home and doing well. Rest up!
Gentle hugs,
Binney -
Thanks, Binney...
Yes, I have a really hard time accepting help, so asking for it is definitely out of my comfort zone (which is seems to be a common trait here!
). But I'm really glad I did. I think it helped to have the luxury of a whole day to rest without feeling like I had to take care of the kids/husband/dogs.
And today's appointment went well. I just saw oncology, so I'm not sure what infectious disease would have said, but my onc thought that the newer areas on my back and chest aren't cause for alarm since the pinkness was almost gone today and it's just all blisters now. She feels it is following the 'infectious process' my arm went through, but on a far less severe scale because it is being controlled by antibiotics. The full length of my arm, from hand to shoulder was bright red, hot and shockingly swollen when I first posted. Then when they finally got the infection under control, small fluid-filled blisters started forming (which are now large blisters that are bursting). The arm looks kind of scary! Anyway, the back & chest areas are doing the same thing--minus the redness and with a lot less swelling than I had in the arm. So, I think she must be right about it being okay. What a relief it was to be able to walk out of the hospital with her blessing today!
I was going to ask you, when do you think I should start wearing my sleeve again? The onc really didn't feel confident enough to tell me when. My PCP had no idea when I saw her on Friday. And my PT (who is more of a PT than an LE therapist) hasn't seen it to this extent before. You seem to be so much more knowledgeable about all of this than anyone in my medical circle, so I would really appreciate your thoughts. I know I shouldn't put it on now, with all of the blisters and the bursting, but when is it okay to resume? I've actually had it lightly wrapped in a gauze bandage the past few days because of all the oozing and each time I remove it, I can clearly see the effects of the LE with all of the impressions from the gauze and the indentations in the arm with even light pressure, so I'm afraid of waiting too long to start using compression again lest the LE get any worse. All these things I wish we didn't have to worry about... It's hard to remember what it was like to not have to worry about things that most people take for granted!
Thanks so much for everything. I don't know what I would have done without you throughout this process... What a gift you are to bco.org and women like me!
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Mom2,
I think you have already given back by sharing your story. It has certainly educated me, as I had no idea something like could happen. So glad you are feeling better!
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Mom2--the general rule of thumb is to not wear compression until the infection is definitely solidly improved, the other issue is skin "integrity"--with fluid filled blisters and weeping, it's likely not a good idea to compress them just yet.
You don't want to irritate them further, and they are breaks in the skin.
As the infection definitely starts to recede, and the blisters heal, you can try compression. The irony is that wounds do heal better with compression, but it's a careful process.
IMO, I'd give it another few days, and then if you could get in with an LE therapist, it would really help.
Glad you're on the mend, it's been an ordeal.
Kira
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Mom2--So glad you are doing somewhat better. When my LE therapist gave me a page full of precautions to take at the bottom was something like "Do not hesitate to ask for help!" That has always been hard for me too. Let your family help out. I hope you have a great healing week.
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Mom2, I'm so glad you're on the mend. I think it's really hard for our loved-ones to realize how much help we actually need with LE. They're so relieved we're done with BC treatment that they tend to dismiss the complications we're left with. Unless we speak up, they just don't get it. So--very hard to do, but too important to ignore. <sigh!>
Thanks for the kind words. We all do need each other here, that's for sure. And I so agree with Becky--you've already given us so much by sharing your experience here. I just hate that your get-away turned out this way, and I hope to goodness you get another chance at it before too long!
As you're healing, be sure to talk to one of your doctors about a prescription for antibiotics to fill and keep on hand in case of another episode. A quick start to treatment can make a huge difference. Also, do check with your insurance about out-of-state life-threatening emergency coverage. Most plans do provide for dire emergencies, and cellulitis qualifies. (Who knew?!
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Hugs!
Binney -
You are all so sweet!
I just wanted to post to say that I didn't forget about you--or take all of your support & run off without a thank you! :-)
Things went downhill again & I had to go back into the hospital, came home last night, and am leaving to drop the kids off and go back in again... What a rollercoaster! But you've all been on my mind! I'll post again when I'm home. I hope you are all hanging in there!
Bigs hugs!
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Oh gosh Mom2, I hope you are on the road to healing this time. Sending gentle hugs and the best of healing wishes. I wonder, do you need a different antibiotic?
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Mom2, I'm so sorry!
You'll be on my mind and in my prayers. Heal, y'hear?!! Consider us all right there with you and cheering you on.
Huge hugs,
Binney -
Mom2--Oh I am so sorry it has not been a faster healing for you. I will be thinking about you.
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Mom2, I am cheering you on, waiting to hear from you!!!!!!
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Home again... Thank you all so much for your continued hugs and support--I can't tell you how much this has meant to me!
Marple--Yes, I believe I'm on my 8th or 9th antibiotic? They work for a time, but then it gets worse again... They gave me Vancomycin as soon as I came back to my home hospital, but I had a nasty reaction to it, so they've been trying other drugs/combinations of drugs since. Hoping this is the last time! Thanks for the healing wishes. :-)
Thank you, Becky & Crystal! :-)
Thank you, Binney! I had no idea what a worthy adversary cellulitis could be. I can't tell you how good it feels to know you are here educating women who don't know what they are dealing with--like me!!
Thinking of you all & grateful for your support...
xoxo
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Hooray mom2- Now onward and upward! Becky
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((((Mom2)))) Fingers crossed you're home for good this time.
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Mom2, whew! Great to be home. Somehow, convince all your loved ones that you need to REST. Tell them all of us here need them to help you awhile longer and sit on you if you try to do too much.
What an ordeal! You've been such a trouper about it all. Chocolate all around!
Binney -
Mom2, glad you are home. Take good care of yourself, and as Binney suggests, ask your family to go easy and give you more time to rest. Hope you feel better with each passing day.
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Mom2, glad you are home. Take good care of yourself, and as Binney suggests, ask your family to go easy and give you more time to rest. Hope you feel better with each passing day.
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Mom2, I am sending out big hugs for you. Man, what an ordeal. Try to rest up as others have said!
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Thanks so much, girls... Not in the hospital today, so that's a good thing! Hoping to keep it that way...
Thank you for all of your kind words and support. I don't know what I'd do without you!!! Hugs to all of you...
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Hey, mom2, this is a new record for staying out of the hospital, right?
Happy dancing here!
Binney -
Thanks, Binney!
I feel like I have my own cheering section! You are all wonderful!
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Well you sure do have your own private cheering section!!!! :-) and we learn from you and each other too.
I am so glad things are improving!
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thanks, crystal! :-)
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mom2--Glad you seem to be on the mend. Take it slow and easy. We want to keep hearing from you at home!
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Mom2, I am so glad you found this forum; I've watched your posts from the beginning and been cheering silently for your nightmare to resolve successfully. The LE forum here at bco is the most supportive social media site I've ever found. You have lots of friends here, and I mean that literally. Crystal is so right when she says we learn from each other. Most of what I know about LE is the result of posts here--many with rock-solid information I could use immediately, and lots that sent me in the direction of very productive research. I would not be the empowered patient that I am, had I not found help here, and I think you too have moved up that steep LE learning curve with a lot of help from ladies who gave you some pretty straight advice when you needed it.
So--back pats all around, for givers and receivers of help, information, and most of all emotional support.
Carol
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Thank you all!!! It has been another rough couple of days. I can't seem to break this cycle. It seems that after I've been home on oral antibiotics for a couple of days, the cellulitis gets worse again.
I am beginning to feel like this is never going to end. Cellulitis was not on my radar AT ALL before this--and now it seems to be almost all-consuming. I was back at the hospital yesterday, but got to come home to wait for an appointment with another specialist. My oncologist is concerned about keeping me on such a high dose of antibiotics for an extended period of time, but her PA and the infectious disease doctors say I should be getting IV antibiotics in the hospital. The thing all sides seem to agree on is that there's some concern that I could pick up another infection if I keep getting hospitalized (they believe this all started because I picked up a hospital-grade staph infection when I had to have a hysterectomy/ooph in March & that it probably got into a small cut on my LE hand last month? Not sure what I think of their theory, but this is what they're saying). Anyway, my blood counts weren't looking so good before, but they have gotten worse lately. I'm neutropenic, my white count is in the crapper, and all the reds--hematocrit, rbc, hemoglobin have been dropping steadily. I just had a transfusion a couple of months ago and my numbers are now lower than they were before the last transfusion. And I'm wondering why. I feel like I don't know what is going on with my body. I thought a recurrence was the only thing I had to worry about, but now I'm just a little concerned that an infection might take me out. I do my best to be really positive (this is really the only place where I'm not!!
Sorry!), but there have been some times in the past few weeks when I've been truly scared. I can't tell you how fortunate I feel to be able to come here and be met with understanding and support--and the freedom to actually say what I'm thinking/feeling. I am grateful for all of you!!
And Carol, what a nice post. You put it so well. Though I am still struggling with this rotten stuff, I am certain it would be much, much worse if I hadn't had such great information and support from the ladies here. Yes, pats on the back all around. And Binney is right, lots of chocolate for everyone!
Big hugs to you all!
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