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  • Mzmerz
    Mzmerz Member Posts: 1,054
    edited May 2012

    BevG - I know how you feel, putting down all that stuff.  I thought, it might be easier to write what's NOT wrong with me. LOL  

    I had my interview with them on the phone about getting SSDI of mine for my kids.  The SS Rep said it would be better to have the money for the kids be under my husband as receiver of the kids money because if something happened to me (DUH) then he would have to have a hassle to reapply and get them death benefits.  Since 3 of my kids are adopted internationally, we have to submit additional paperwork showing I did adopt them.  And since my older son is 18 but a junior in HS, he has to go in and show his ID and fill out some paperwork.  But it's way less painful than I thought it would be. 

  • cherokee807
    cherokee807 Member Posts: 10
    edited June 2012

    Hi Steven...

    First, let me say along with many others....Thank You so much for helping us try to figure out the program "Social Security". Laughing I have Stage 3 Breast Cancer, been through surgery-chemo-radiation.  I haven't worked since Jan. 2010 when I went on medical leave from my job. During my leave I ended up being terminated due to an error on my part...I receive $115 a month from Welfare while waiting for my hearing with a Judge for SS. I should mention I had to file numerous appeals to get to this point. I am 50 yrs old and my body feels 90! Chemo did a number on me and being off of work I am now overweight and just can't do the normal things I always did! My question is about how long does it take to get a hearing? I did involve my Congressman and just received letter yesterday from him stating that they are still reviewing my files and should be getting a video hearing soon. After the hearing, IF I am approved any idea how long it takes to actually receive money? And what happens if they deny me again? I do have an attorney but he isn't available always to answer questions!

    Thanking you in advance for your answer....May GOD Bless you and your family, it is a long hard journey BUT being positive is truly the best advice I can give.... and that isn't always easy to do!  I was diagnosed in NOV 2010 and was in remission NOV 2011! GOD IS GOOD!!!!!!! Still have lots of health issues like I mentioned from the ordeal but Life is GOOD! Laughing

    Take Care,

    Margaret 

  • NMM
    NMM Member Posts: 138
    edited June 2012

    Margaret

    Wait times vary and depends on where you live.

    search the website by state to get an idea.

    http://disabilityjudges.com/

    not sure where in OH you are or what ODAR you will go to...but unless it is Clevland avg. wait time from the filing of request for hearing is about 12 months in Ohio.

    http://disabilityjudges.com/state/ohio 

    as far as your other quesitons, as you point out they are "IF" quesitons.

    Most likely your attonrey is like me, focused on doing what he/she can to help clients win there cases. Spending time talking about "what ifs" does not serve that purpose.  I know it can make you feel better.  But it is really pointless to worry about how long it takes ot get paid before one even gets approved (but average is 30-60 days after decision).

    Focus your energy on the upcoming hearing by becomming comfortable with talking about all your problems.

     Steven

  • NMM
    NMM Member Posts: 138
    edited June 2012

    Medi

    Depends on where you live but yeah a year is about right to wait.

    go here and look up by state

    http://disabilityjudges.com/ 

    And yes working may affect her chances.

    Steven

  • NMM
    NMM Member Posts: 138
    edited June 2012

    Bev

    Yuo can apply at anytime, but at most you have to show your disability started within 5 years of you stopping work for DIB benefits (not SSI).

    Your DIB benefit will be nearly the same as what you would get at full retirement age.  So if you go for early SS and apply for disability and get approve they give you the differemce.

    Steven

  • NMM
    NMM Member Posts: 138
    edited June 2012

    Sharon

    How was SSA call?

    Steven

  • bevg49
    bevg49 Member Posts: 739
    edited June 2012

    Steven, thank you so much for the help you're providing to those who are preoccupied at this time. It is really appreciated. I am totally confused about a couple of things. I just looked at the site you provided. For NY, it says avg. processing time 355 days; avg. wait for hearing 11 months... are those 2 separate things? Meaning the wait will be close to 2 years? Also, in my application, it asked if I wanted to apply for retirement SS... I am 62 and 10 months. It said something like "the amount will be less if you get the reg. ss.... so I opted out. The difference is about $300 per month. Are you saying I can also apply for retirement money and get that in the meantime while my app for dib is pending and if approved, then switch to the higher amount? What do they mean, the amount will be permanently less? So sorry, this is not very coherent but the application wasn't, to me, anyway :). Thank you again.

  • Lauriesh
    Lauriesh Member Posts: 692
    edited June 2012

    Hi Steven,

    I was diagnosed stage 4 almost 2 years ago, and quit working then. I did not qualify for disability because I was short  a few credits.  I recently started working part time, and making between 600-800 a month.  I will have enough credits by the end of this year,  so I will file for disability next year. 

    I would really like to keep my job. Any chance that I could file , and be approved, while I am still working.  Also, if I am approved next year, is there any chance that I could get back payments  from my diagnosis date of 7/2010, eventhough I was short credits?

    thanks

    Laurie

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited June 2012

    The whole purpose of SSDI is that someone is no longer able to work due to disability.

    The application will ask you what date you were no longer able to work.

  • Mzmerz
    Mzmerz Member Posts: 1,054
    edited June 2012

    Tomorrow we are going to meet with SS to apply for disability benefits for my kids under my disability.

    I have one question, though, regarding spouses who are caring for my children.  The SSI lady didn't mention anything about that, but it is on my SS statement as a benefit.  Has anyone gotten benefits for the spouse?

    Thank you

    amy 

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited June 2012

    Weirdly, when my DH was turning 62 and applying for regular SS the rep said that not only was our minor son entitled to a payment, roughly half of what my husband had earned but that I would receive a similar amount because I was caretaker. For two years until he was 18 we both receive funds.



    Totally don't understand that and totally wonder how we can justify that sort of payment under normal SS. No wonder the funding is stressed.



    Now disability is another can of worms, I don't know if that same thing applies.

  • bevg49
    bevg49 Member Posts: 739
    edited June 2012

    As far as working on disability, my husband has been getting disability for about 5 years and we regularly get mail from SS saying that you CAN work as long as you don't make over a certain amount. I know the app. asks when you became unable to work but I know we get that letter from time to time saying he can work. It's totally confusing if you ask me.

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited June 2012

    It's called a trial work period. There is also the Ticket to Work program. The intent of these programs is to return someone to the workforce hopefully to get them off benefits. The trial work period is 9 months(does not have to be consecutive). If you earn less than $720 per month while receiving benefits you do not have to report earnings. After 9 months of earning more than $720 there is an extended 3 year period. If you earn more than $1010 monthly for that period you will likely find them re evaluating your disability to see if it can be discontinued. These dollar figures are current for this year and can change.



    So you can supplement your benefits after you are approved. IMHO I wouldn't exceed the $720. No sense in risking reevaluation.



  • Mzmerz
    Mzmerz Member Posts: 1,054
    edited June 2012

    I will report back all of what we end up getting.  Maybe that will clear some of the mysterious mystery!

  • NMM
    NMM Member Posts: 138
    edited June 2012

    Bev

    Wait time for hearing is just that, from request for hearing to actual hearing.  Process time is from request until case is decided.  So based on your numbers you cite, one waits ~335 days for a hearing and then ~20 days (total of ~355) after hearing to receive decision.

     Yes if you get early retirment SS benefit syou will get permentaly less form retirment.  So if for example you are due a normal retirment benefit at 66 or 67 of $1,000 but early retirment at 62 is $700 you will always get $700 from retirement.

    But as you note you can apply for disability and if you get approved for disability SS then you get adjusted back to your retirement.  Look at it this way form how SSA does from internal accouting. Basically SSA has at least 2 accounts for Be.  There is a Retirment account and a DIB account.

    Bev elects at 62 on 6/1/12 to get early retirement of $700 ($300 less full benefit of $1,000) and also applies for SS DIB which will be $1,000 if granted.

    It takes 18 months until 12/1/12 for Bev to get approved for disability.  We wil assume 18 months of back disability benefits owing to keep things simple.

    So Bev is owed $1,000 a month for 18 months of DIB.  That is $18,000.  She gets a letter stating that.

    But at the same time SSA unretires her based on the DIB finding.  Bev got $700 per month from retirment for 18 moths.  That is $12,600.

    So SSA will send letter(s) saying we owe Bev $18,000 DIB but are deducting $12,600 for the 18 months to pay back Bev's retirment account leaving a balnce of $5,400 (or $300 each of the 18 months).

    Bev then will continue to receive disability until her normal retiurment age when she then is taken of the DIB account and put on retirment, no change in benefit just an internal accounting move.

    This is a general description and if there is also an SSI applicaiton it can get more compleicated (as well as workers comp and state disability payments).

    Steven 

  • NMM
    NMM Member Posts: 138
    edited June 2012

    Laurie

    There are exceptions to every rule.  But this applies to everyone reading.

    SSA approves bnefits to people who have a medical condition that has prevented them from working for 12 months or is expected to prevent work for 12 months.

    So if one applies on 6/1/12...goes back to work on 10/1/12 while waiting for a decision...and gets denied on 12/1/12 it may very well be because they went baclk to work which oroved they did not have a  a medical condition that has prevented them from working for 12 months or is expected to prevent work for 12 months.

    So while SSA does let a person attmepted to go back to work after being found disabled in nearly all cased one most not work for at least 12 months before trying to go back to work.

    And yes I know, how does SSA expect someone to not work and survive until a decison is made or on the little $$ the beenfit it is.  Well they just do expect that.

    Steven

  • rmcclain21
    rmcclain21 Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2012

    Steven Help!!!

    I was diagnosed back in November 3rd 2010, stage 3 breast cancer, Did all the treatments and got on short term disability at work from January 1 2011 thru July 5th 2011. Returned to work due to financial hardship (DH working part time). House payments,  bills etc. and running out of FMLA, STD.  Upon my return to work, Management started treating me differently, I was given a lot of hardship as to how I was going to continue treatment and continue working with the balance of time that I had left. Only 80 hours PTO and I had Radiation to start.  Needless to say, I succeeded my treatments without having to compromise my alloted hours at work.  I would use 1 or 2 to go to treatments or Radiation, so I was Blessed for my side effects from Chemo that continued and Radiation that lasted a month and a half to not use all the time with out getting negative reactions from management. With the New Year I was given my full time due- Vac 160 hours, PTO Etc.  Did my reconstruct Surgery in March of this year,took STD and returned Mid May 2012.  Management just adviced me that  they are placing me on review for 60 days..you know as well as I know how this story is going to end.  I have been with the company for 21 years and they are treating me like I choose to get Cancer, I feel like they are punishing me for it.  Is it too late to try to apply for Disability now? I am 48. Sorry so long.

    Thanks for letting me vent.  

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited June 2012

    McClain, your company sucks. Complaining to the state labor board seems in order. Not sure what you mean by too late, but SSDI approval would depend on your disability, not the company letting you go. If your stage is still 3, that's an uphill battle as well. You'll have to provide enough documentation that it's your disabilities that prevent you from working for 12 months or more. Stage III doesn't get expedited approval so it can take time as well.

  • NMM
    NMM Member Posts: 138
    edited June 2012

    If you are still working..wait....if not..apply.

    For everyone else, if you have been off work for 12 months because of medical condition or if you think you will not be able to work for 12 months...apply...aply...apply

    It is free and takes about an hour on the net.

    If I have not been clear...apply if you are not working.

  • SuperFoob
    SuperFoob Member Posts: 505
    edited June 2012

    Steven, THANK YOU!!!

    I keep up on this thread and appreciate all of your efforts on our behalf.

    I sent you a private message. I hope you don't mind.

    Smiles!

  • SuperFoob
    SuperFoob Member Posts: 505
    edited June 2012

    Oh....I should add...I was Stage IV at initial diagnosis and I have worked for my company for 23 years. I am 45 years old.

    I read my MetLife LTD plan summary and it does pay until I am 65 but I am sure that they try to find any way possible to not pay, hence my fears as I am currently NED.

    Dunno if any of the above matters in my case.

  • ibcmets
    ibcmets Member Posts: 4,286
    edited June 2012

    Geegster,

    LTD usually pays 60% of pay.  They will deduct any SS benefits you get, so if your salary was high you may come ahead with LTD.  My LTD did not pay anything as I actually got more with SSDI.  My company however, still carries my health ins as secondary with Medicare.

    Terri

  • SuperFoob
    SuperFoob Member Posts: 505
    edited June 2012

    Thank you, Terri.



    My LTD is 65% and, yes, it pays much more than SSDI (almost double). I was already receiving benefits up until April, although only the 10% minimum monthly benefit as my CA SDI was high enough that the difference between the STD and LTD was less than 10% of what my benefit would be, hence the 10% minimum monthly benefit which is the minimum they pay out.



    My real questions are whether or not I will have a difficult time being approved permanently as I am currently stage IV-NED though experiencing side effects from treatment. This morning, I can barely move, my bones ache so friggin much from letrozole. Also, chemo fog, cording, numbness and tingling in my chest and left arm (my dominant hand), insomnia and extreme fatigue. Oh, and to top it off, a panic attack every once in awhile.



    My other question is whether or not my employer and the LTD company speak with each other. I want to give my work a medical leave form with a return to work date approx. 6-7 months out as they will continue to pay my medical benefits for 6 months and then ater that time tell them I will be requesting a permanent disability retirement. If i tell them i want the permanent disability right off the bat, they wont give me the 6months of medical benefits coverage. That is 6 months I don't have to pay for COBRA benefits.



    At the same time, I want to submit a perm. disability request to MetLife LTD to make sure I get approval. I can't risk leaving my job only to not be approved permanently for the LTD. I would be screwed.



    I am "young" (45) and worry that if I go for the permanent disability retirement that either now, or in a few years, if I'm still alive (fingers crossed) that they will deny me and I will lose everything I've worked so hard for (ie: my condo, my car, a decent standard of living). So long as I get the LTD (I know that they deduct any SSDI), I will be a-okay financially. I don't want to walk away from my 23 years long job, even though I don't particularly like it to wind up with no income, or only SSDI which won't cover my bills. But I also don't want to spend what is most likely the last years of my life at a job when i could be trying to enjoy them instead and, at the same time, prolonging my life with better health that comes with less stress and more rest that permanent disability would allow.



    I am just getting nervous as I read on these boards that some women are facing reviews and approval difficulties with SSDI and I am pretty sure that my private LTD is even more stringent.



    Even a little peace of mind is nice....I'm sure you can all agree!

  • sharont68
    sharont68 Member Posts: 124
    edited June 2012

    Thanks for your help Steven. I actually went in for my interview. The rep that I met said I didn't complete the online application that I did...what? I told her that I got a confirmation of the completed appication in email that they sent......she looked confused but I did the application while I was there and gave her all my medical records that I had. She gave me a receipt, said some encouraging words and then I was on my way. So now just waiting on the call from Austin from DARS (she said it would be up to 160 days before I heard from them). It just didn't sound correct...idk....i'm just goiing with the flow.

     By any chance do you know if the online application counts or the one she completed while I was there? 160 days seems like a lot......especially since my first application was done April 19.

    Oh well, I'll do the waiting game....I'm out of it mostly from chemo anywaySealed!

    Thanks again for all your help! Hugs and kisses to everyone!

  • sharont68
    sharont68 Member Posts: 124
    edited June 2012

    Ok.....so I just checked my status of my claim/application on the website and it said that a decsion has been made. I am supposed to get something in the mail.......should I dare and call the ssa number.........i'll wait....it may be bad news!

    Sharon

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited June 2012

    I think your first application was on someone's desk and got processed. I just found the local reps have no real concept of what goes on at the Dis. Determination office. They told me the same thing locally, that I'd have to wait several more months. That just wasn't the truth.



    Hoping you get great news, and soon.

  • Mzmerz
    Mzmerz Member Posts: 1,054
    edited June 2012

    Sharon

    I actually received a letter talking about setting up a PIN number for the website before I actually received my award letter two days later, so if that should happen to you, it means you were approved.

    Also, when I went to the local office, the gal there had never heard of compassionate allowance.  I think they should make their people READ the website before turning them loose on the public!

    Good luck

    Amy 

  • Stormynyte
    Stormynyte Member Posts: 650
    edited June 2012

    I had money deposited into my bank account almost 2 weeks before I got the approval letter. I think they are so busy and backed up they can't keep up with themselves.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited June 2012

    I also had the bank deposit before getting the letter.  It was a most pleasant surprise and I was worried that it was a mistake until I saw the letter!

  • vina
    vina Member Posts: 9
    edited June 2012

    I am receiving a monthly check from ssi and i would like to know am i qualified to recieve ssa since iam only 41 and have had mbc breast cancer for 11 years?

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