Discomfort after xcisional biopsy?

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JayeGA
JayeGA Member Posts: 82

My excisional biopsy was exactly 2 weeks ago. I am healing well but still have some kind of pain or discomfort in my breast every day. It also feels a lot warmer than the other breast and I feel like I need to wear a bra, even when I'm lying down. There's a large lump of breast tissue on the left side, and I remember my surgeon saying she made a point to fill in the area where she removed the tissue for the biopsy. I usually end up massaging that side of my breast and it feels better when I do it.I'm chalking this up to the healing process but would like to know what symptoms you had, weeks after your excisional, and about how long they lasted?  

Thanks, Jaye 

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  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited May 2012

    Hi there, Jaye,

    I had an excisonal biopsy nine weeks ago.  I have more pain now, than I did after the surgery.  I had to return to clinic, with another large mass, which was ultra sounded and told it is fat necrosis.  Apparently, this is something that can take time to go away and the body is likely to absorb this mass.  I have seen no improvements at all, and as time goes on, even though am simply accepting as problems after surgery, which I didn't expect then I am willing to see it through, as I do not want anymore surgery, it would be the last resort, as long as it is fat necrosis. 

    The incision from the surgery healed very well. I took my dressing off after five days, I felt fine, was driving again after 48 hours and apart from a couple of co-deine, all was well, till about two weeks after and this happened. 

    I did experience like a knitting together, if that at all makes a sense, from within, it sort of felt busy... 

     Sending you good healing thoughts, Jaye. 

  • JayeGA
    JayeGA Member Posts: 82
    edited May 2012

    It's good to see you again, Sommer! You were a great support to me when I first got here. Sorry to hear you're in more discomfort now. I agree with you not wanting more surgery but I wonder if massage or heating pad or ibuprofen might help with the pain? As of yet I haven't tried much, but your description of fat necrosis sounds exactly like the warm-feeling large lump near my surgery site.  If I reach down and gently massage it, it DOES feel better, but I have to keep doing it. I just hope I don't slip up and do it in public, I'd probably be arrested. 

    I'm going to google fat necrosis and see if any other remedies might be out there. Maybe a holistic remedy. If anything interesting comes up, I'll post it.

    Hoping you feel better soon. Hugs, Jaye. 

  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited May 2012

    Hi Jaye

    And lovely to see you too.  I tried massage, it was agony afterwards for two days, then my GP told me not to massage it.  I read that bruising can appear too, but have no bruising or discharge.  Hahaha, I don't think you'd be arrested.  I am read out on google over fat necrosis...  Not painful, my ass, mine is very painful, visible to the naked eye, I can see it and my husband took a picture of it, and it is very visible, he showed our neighbour( thanks a lot) 

     I read that Vicks Vapour rub is supposed to be good for it.  Not tried that yet...  Taken ibuprofen, codeine, paracetamol...  The codeine made me throw up, I am on mefanic acid tablets for exceesive menstrual pain and excessive bleeding.  I feel absolutely pants! 

    It certainly sounds like it, Jaye, I hope that it is, and nothing more serious, (despite my gripes, I know it could be much worse) 

    Hugs to you

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited May 2012

    Mine was on the 25th, so almost two weeks ago and I'm still sore too.  I think I was actually sorer a week or more after than I was for the first few days.  In different parts of my breast from just where they worked too.  Nurse Practitioner told me part of it (especially away from the incision) can be from trauma where they used the retractors to hold the incision open during the surgery.  I'm also wondering if since I have extensive sclerosing adenosis part of it may be from the retractors tearing tight fiber bundles within the breast.

  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited May 2012

    Hi Melissa,

    I too was sore more as time went on and I feel quite cross, that in no way, was I prepared of the after effects of what I thought was a simple surgery.  I thought I had a simple issue. 

    Trauma is damaging isn't it?  We just never know how much goes on, when we are lying on that bed, asleep.  Sclerosing adenosis, is what I think, here in the UK we call radial scars? 

  • lindaanne
    lindaanne Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2012

     What is sclerosing adenosis or radial scars. I sitll feel pain after 13 days and it wakes me up at night so I try to sleep on my back.  I am still so fatigues.  GEtting through the day is brutal at work.

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited May 2012
    Sclerosing adenosis is composed of small breast lumps caused by an enlarged lobule  It may appear as a breast lump or an abnormal finding on a mammogram and may be painful. Because sclerosing adenosis has a distorted shape, it may be mistaken for breast cancer on a mammogram and a biopsy may be needed to confirm the diagnosis . However, it is a benign condition and does not need treatment   Sclerosing adenosis may be found with atypical hyperplasialobular carcinoma in situ (LCIS) and ductal carcinoma in situ (DCIS) . Although some studies have shown sclerosing adenosis slightly increases the risk of breast cancer, recent findings suggest it does not increase risk. Sommer, I don't think it is the same as radial scars.  
  • brendaks
    brendaks Member Posts: 32
    edited May 2012

    Some women have very little pain after an excisional biopsy, and some have nasty pain.  I've read that this pain is often caused by the fact that nerves get cut during the surgery, and the process of them regrowing can be painful.

    I had an excisional biopsy of two areas and had a large amount of tissue removed, and I'm so lumpy bumpy on my left side due to the surgical changes I honestly don't know how I'd even be able to tell if I had a breast cancer lump unless it was huge!

  • JayeGA
    JayeGA Member Posts: 82
    edited May 2012

    I got a lot from all the responses, thanks! I have been actually massaging the side of my breast every day and sending love to it (thanks Louise Hay) and the heat has reduced and discomfort has too. I took some ibuprofen a few days ago and if it didn't help, well, it didn't hurt. Hard to tell.  My BS put new steri-strips on the incision at my followup visit, and once they drop off I think I'll use pure coconut oil on it. 

    An irony is that my expensive Bali bra is irritating to that breast, but the inexpensive Fruit of the Loom Walmart bra feels like heaven. I went out and bought another one just because it's so soothing to my skin. Go figure.       Jaye 

  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited May 2012

    Jaye

    Hi there. 

    Can I ask, how far in was your mass that was removed by excisional? 

     I ask because my mass was only 5mm under the skin.  Which is why the radiologist would not do a wire insertion and only skin marked me. 

  • JayeGA
    JayeGA Member Posts: 82
    edited May 2012

    Sommer, I'm not sure of the exact distance, but I asked the radiologist--when he was inserting the wire--if the area was at my chest wall, and he said it was about halfway there.  One area was at 3oclock, another was at 4oclock and they were both pretty deep in. The wire insertion took over half an hour.

    Do you have some concerns about it?    Hugs, Jaye

  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited May 2012

    Hi Jaye,

    Lovely to see you.  I asked, because I have been battling, truly battling, with the consultants, two of the swines, the first one, who missed my initial problem.  What I couldn't get my head around, was this fat necrosis, being so large from my excisional, when the mass, which was 11mm by 4mm, was only 5mm under the skin.  I think and so does the breast care nurse, who I spent an hour on the phone with, that the original lump has been overlooked.  So am back for another scan, another biopsy, as the raidiologist, who is the clinical director of screening (I tracked him down on a social networking site, can't escape the old Sommer) and wrote to him directly, as I had left three messages on his secretary's line, ordered a biopsy and guess what?  The consultant didn't do one.  Tsk, tsk. 

    Now, I still think it is a benign progression, am not keen on yet another procedure, but it cannot be avoided. 

    And with the clinic I attend, the previous clinical director of breast screening, in 2008, out of 248 women, misdaignosed 18 women, so they have to be on the ball.  They will be laying the red carpet out for me, they have had enough press attention, and I found this out because I googled his name.  What was attached?  My clinical director of breast screening, took over from the guy who missed the cancers in those 18 women. 

    What a bloody performance I have had. 

  • JayeGA
    JayeGA Member Posts: 82
    edited May 2012

    I'm so glad you have the heart to fight for what you need, Sommer! Amazing, amazing journey you've had to take, but I'm hoping the scan and biopsy will have B9 results and give you some peace of mind. Will you be scheduled soon?  Are they still cooperating?  Blessings....Jaye 

      

  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited May 2012

    Hi Jaye,

    Have been away for a few days, with my girlfriends, which gave me a break from thinking about it all and of course, am now back to reality. 

    I have now, another scan in August according to a letter I have received, so they have brought it forward five weeks. 

    Waiting for a date on MDT meeting. 

    Hugs to you my friend. 

  • JayeGA
    JayeGA Member Posts: 82
    edited June 2012

    I'm glad you had some time away, Sommer, you greatly deserve it! You're in my thoughts and I'm wishing great results for you. It will be good to get an accurate picture of what's going on. Thank God you were persistent! 

    Take good care, and try to have some fun this summer. You have such a great sense of humor. Don't let this issue take that  away. TTYS. Hugs, Jaye 

  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited June 2012

    Hi Jaye,

    My appointment has been brought forward to Friday now! 

    I am relieved and nervous at the same time. 

  • JayeGA
    JayeGA Member Posts: 82
    edited June 2012

    Great! I understand the nervousness but I'm so damn GLAD! Sending positive light your way.

  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited June 2012

    How are you doing? 

    Have your post surgical issues died down now? 

  • JayeGA
    JayeGA Member Posts: 82
    edited June 2012

    I'm doing well, Sommer...the swelling we talked about has gone down a lot, the incision has healed with a 2 inch scar, and there's a pucker in the side of my breast where the 2 (yep, 2) wires were inserted. I follow up with the breast surgeon in November.

    In the meantime, I've improved what I eat and exercise every day. I may not look like it, but I'm 60 lbs overweight and it's beyond unhealthy. Had to cut out a lot of sugar, which was good. I'm working on lowering my stress level, which was high. 

    I'm going to post about Tamoxofen, since the oncologist wanted me to start on it and I've decided to wait. My instincts tell me not to do it yet.

    Overall, things are well, and I'm very, very grateful. 

    So there's the update on me! Now about you! What's the timeline for Fri? 

    Hugs, Jaye 

  • summersong
    summersong Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2012

    I had the surgical biopsy about 10 days ago and have had a similar experience- the pain got worse about a week in. My nipple is especially sore- like how I remember from nursing. (my results came back benign-yay! ) With a strong family history, I worry that this won't be the last biopsy and I kind of want to get a handle on the healing. I am using an essential oil that my sister gave me. She said it could be referred pain but I wonder if it is just from wearing a sports bra all the time. Has anyone else experienced this?

  • ED2012
    ED2012 Member Posts: 97
    edited September 2012

    Hope this finds you feeling better and healed!  I just had my  wide excisional biopsy (post a core needle biopsy) 2 weeks ago today.  I thought I was crazy in that I was feeling more sore now than I was last week.  I also have a couple of sutures that are sticking out of the suture line...having to go back today and get those clipped as they are not going away on their own.  The nipple area is very sore and I get occasional stabbing pains out of the blue (supposedly the nerves trying to reconnect) and also some occasional pain on the medial aspect of my arm - just above my armpit area - wondering if that could be irritated lymph nodes trying to work overtime to carry away some of the swelling from the 2 biopsies?  I haven't been able to stomach massaging any oils, etc...just still too sore.  Do feel a big lump in there and found that after returning to work can be very sore by mid afternoon.  So glad to hear your results were benign!

  • catedamien
    catedamien Member Posts: 1
    edited September 2012

    thanks for this one. will definitely undergo xcisional biopsy now.

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