June 2012 Radiation Rads
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Neeners - don't be embarassed! If they didn't tell you it was a 'dry run', how would you know? Some places are very good at explaining what is going on, and others don't give you a clue. I sometimes feel well informed, and sometimes feel clueless. Thank goodness for the women on this site to help, otherwise I would be pretty lost (and my DH is a physician).
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Hi All,
Mapping is done and I begin on Tuesday. Question, I was told I can't go swimming all summer eventho I should be thru with rads by the begining if July. Anyone else told this? I am assuming if my skin holds up, it should be OK. My RO does not have much of a sense of humor. It is going to be a long haul with him.
Best of luck to all on this path.
Gentle day
Nel
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Nel,
My RO said no swimming until at least 1 month after Rads are done and skin is healed. He doesn't want me in a chlorinated pool, he doesn't want me in unchlorinated water and he doesn't want me in the sun.
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What the heck? Nobody told me that. This is really frustrating that I'm not being communicated with. Thank goodness for you wonderful ladies.
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Neeners815, they didn't tell me until I asked. I used to "water walk" most days. The radiologist didn't want me in the pool after the biopsy, the surgeon didn't want me in the pool after the lx, the ro is just continuing a theme. I sometimes think I shouldn't have asked, but I don't want to impede my recovery so...
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So we can't be in the sun or a pool/ocean/hot tub for a month after rads?
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I am going to verify with both my RO and MO to make sure about doing both the HT and Rads together. I feel the same way that 5 years is a long time and just want to get it started. But am now a bit concerned about the heat, hot flashes, etc together with the rads and we are having super hot weather already here....it's going to be a hot summer and from the sounds of it a potentially stinky one...Oh boy!
My RO said the same about swimming, he said the chlorine will damage the skin more and possibly make it peel. I did read that you might be able to use Vaseline on your skin to repel the water, but not sure if that would work. I think I am going to put a kiddie pool on the patio to get some coolness and pretend I am swimming..haha! I live on the water and own a boat tour business so this has so disrupted my summer enjoyment plans! It just means I am going to do double duty next summer!
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Had the measurements and xrays today -- treatments start tomorrow for 30 days -- lots of info and feeling overwhelmed and kind of scared
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It's normal to feel overwhelmed, I was. I just finished rads last Thursday and it was all doable. Take care of your skin and try to get as much rest as possible. The worst part is the few minutes needed to take measurements and adjust you, if need. The actual radiation is over in a minute.
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Well, I just had the first of 25 treatments today. In and out in 25 minutes, tops. For what it's worth, here was my experience--I'm curious to see if this is what you guys also have encountered.
It's the typical procedure of lying down and getting arranged in the exact way they want me to be, hand above the head, etc. The radiation technicians then had me take a very deep breath and hold it for each radiation burst, the thinking being that it pushes your heart out of the field of radiation. I also have a piece of this gel-like material draped over my mastectomy scar. It tricks the radiation beam into thinking its skin, which makes it so that the rads hit the scar itself rather than underneath it. I think they called it a bolus.
I'll have to ask about the swimming--that would really stink, I must say. Also, my RO said that an underwire bra was fine as long as it remained comfortable, but if it chafed, to switch. We'll see what happens there.
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Just finished the planning session. Was supposed to start rads on the 18th but because the machines are booked out am now starting until Tuesday 26th June!!!! Since I finished chemo a week early that will be 4.5 weeks after chemo finished. I'm really not happy about this since that takes me outside the usual window for starting. Has anyone else had this big a gap?
The RO didn't seem too phased by me already having pneumonitis but has organised for me to have a lung function test the week before I start rads and then every week during. It was all so busy with marking etc that I couldn't ask any questions about that but I now have several and will email her in a few days. The main ones are "why on earth I am doing these if she is concerned enough about lung function to test it?" and "what is now the likelihood of me being left with serious lung damage at the age of 47yrs???".
The tatoos weren't too bad and I insisted on them using a new marker pen on me that they then gave me to bring back each day. I was surprised to be told that despite the tatoos they still mark you everyday. What was the point of the tatoos then huh?
Jenn -
I was also told if it was your left breast they would make you take deep breaths in order for the heart muscle to get out of the way of the rads.
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Scottiee1: I'm using a breathing machine (resembles a respirator or even a scuba breathing apparatus) for each of my treatments, to give me space between my heart and lungs and the tumor site. I have to breath is deep, then as I start to breath out the machine "stops" me and holds my breath (for 25 seconds) at a certain point. They wanted it at the same exact point every time, and didn't want "leakage", so I'm using this machine. It's a little weird at first (I've only had my planning session, I start next week) but not too uncomfortable. I'm sure, by the time I'm done, I'll be used to it.
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Hildy910 Have not been told to take breaths but I am on the right side.Have not been using gel like material at scar but had lumpectomy not sure if this may be why it is different for me.I also have not asked about swimming as I am sure they will say no on the side of caution.I have read on some of the earlier post here that some have been told no and some yes.Also some do with no problems so if it is 9? degrees here and my skin is not blistered just red I am planning to try to coat with Vaseline or Aquaphor,cover well from the sun and just shower chlorine off after.Probably wouldn't go into a public pool but I will go into my own.
Jenn128 If this is real tattos and not just a marker not sure why they would think they need t reapply.Mine aren't going anywhere
and have never been remarked.
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Hoping I will be in June... Everything is delayed now because the hematoma I had opened my incision. Now have to wait for that to heal. Still hoping for June so I can get this party started!
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mamawells - looks like we are rads twinkies - I start (for real this time - didn't know yesterday was going to be what it was) today, too, and have 30 treatments. Grab my virtual hand, and lets goooooo! I'm ready for this to be done, aren't you?
I sort of hate being drawn on and agree - what was the point of the tattoos, then, and how much time do they actually save the techs? Ah well. Time for me to put my big girl panties on and just get 'er done. I AM going to put my oils and such on, and not wait until I have blisters. I think that's ridiculous. From what I've been told by other BC patients, that's what worked for them.
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Neeners815 I do beleive the tatoos save time they line those up and measure during positioning without them I am not sure how they would do this. With you on being proactive with oils,my nurse at first meeting wouldn't give me anything she wanted to wait till I needed it.So I went and got Aloe ,Emu oil,and Aquaphor and started on my own ahead of rads and when I told her 6 days in she was all "Oh No we don't want you using anything we don't give you" well I said "you wouldn't give me anything so I got my own" Then she says Oh that was an over site on my part I am sorry" Say what? I specifically asked for it.I am not sure if I even like what she did give me after that,Its called Aloe Vesta.I have looked at the ingredients and I don't even see Aloe on the list only in inactive ingredients as last listed as Aloe Barbadensis leaf juice .The main ingredient is Dimethicone which I have to as yet look up.I haven't been using it as I like the pure aloe and Aquaphor better. Heck I have an Aloe plant and may also just use this.Maybe I will look it up today.I am down 8 treatments and so far doing ok with this,though I know it is early
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After the first set of sharpie marks they only remarked me when we were getting ready for boosts. I have a tatoo in the middle of my chest and one on each side. My RO nurse wanted me to use what they gave me, but said pure aloe was fine (no alcohol, no coloring, no lidacane etc.) I used the Fruit of the Earth stuff, she said that was great. You can find that lots of places. Of course given my skin breakdown, you might want to disregard anything I say
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Hi everyone,
Jumping into your June Rads group. Finished up chemo 6 days ago and still feeling kinda punky from that... but I realized that I hadn't even begun to think about/reseach/contemplate radiation therapy yet b/c it all seemed soooo far away. Now, here I am! I've gone in for my CT sim and tattoos, I still have to go back for the "dry run" I guess.
I'm entering a study they are doing at the University of Pennsylvania for radiation therapy. You can be placed in either the shorter 'arm' that does the Canadian course or the longer, more traditional US approach 'long' arm. I am really hoping to do less rads but I haven't found out yet what I'm doing.
Looks like my start date is: 6/25. I could be finished in July or I may go into August... looks like a long summer
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Janie, we will be starting the same week :-) I'm getting 28 days with the boost actually included at the same time as the whole breast rads (otherwise it would have been 33 days). It is a newish way of doing it I gather...
Jenn -
Good news from my MO this morning, the mass was benign - just like a lot of you experienced as well!! So happy that I can start rads this month and should be finished in time for my vacation in August. But from the looks of it, NO swimming!! Bummer.
So my simulation is Thursday, then from what I gathered from Neeners, there is yet another appointment before rads begin, correct? And I already purchased Aquaphor, but the docs office will be giving me some?? Darn it, I already opened my big tub so I can't return it.
Hi Janiemom! Welcome and sorry about the chemo. My doc said I could go with the Canadian course but he didn't recommend it. Good luck! -
Thanks for the input, everybody. I'm left side, it seems that the breath-holding is standard practice. Makes sense. I don't have a machine, though!
As for the bolus/gel mold thing, I did have a mastectomy rather than lumpectomy, so perhaps that's why. Curious. I'm right now going in at the earliest time slot, which I love. Unfortunately, as soon as school lets out I'm going to have to switch. Bummer.
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I'm left-sided but at the mapping they told me I wouldn't need the breathing thing and they didn't make me hold my breath either. They told me my heart was 'beautiful' and not in the way, and indicated lungs were fine too. I haven't had the dry run yet, so don't really know what they'll do. I have to say that I wasn't prepared for 5 tattoos, though. Seems like everyone else got 3 at the most. Luckily they made the one in view when wearing V-neck shirts the smallest. I know most people wouldn't know it was a tattoo for rads, but still I see it and think everyone knows that's what is there for. Can anyone tell me if there is anything we need to do/not do before the first dry run? I figured no deoderant, no lotions, no anti-oxidant vitamins, but is there anything else? They failed to inform me and I was so anxious to get out of there that I forgot to ask.
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Hi june friends
i wanted to say, the first day i had xrays i also got my first rad treatment so i would check and see if you just get xrays or if they will do xrays and start treatmen. i also get xrays once a week. they did not tell me that so i thought i would give some of you a heads up. i have left boob rads and i don't have to do any breath holding. my treatment facility provides me with 2 of the creams i use and i have a script for the 3rd, but i don't know that all facilities do. i am a big believer in corn starch all over the rad field it keeps the closes and skin from rubbing and i expecially like it if i am going to be somewhere it is hot or i might sweat. i have 9 treatments left (i am not having boosts) and just today i have a complete red boob in almost a perfect square of the rad field. the RO said my skin is holding up nicely and while creams can help with skin break down, nothing can help with the red color so not to be concerns. i am also not too fatigued so just wanted to let you all know this far in things are still going well. i hope the same is true for all of you. also, my ro said i could continue to wear my regular deoderant because all the studies he has read there is not diffennce in reg deoderant/no deoderant. he said we would revist if i had skin break down but it has not been the case for me. i know someone on our may thread asked thier ro about this and she had to agree too. it was a big deal to me not to be able to wear deoderant so that made me happy.
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I have my simulation Monday, June 11.
I have read this entire thread to help bring me up to speed. I have grave concerns about lung/heart because this in on my left side.
First, I was supposed to have the Mammosite balloon. It was a no go because it was too close to the skin. I hope this means that the focus of the rads will be more toward the surface and not deep near those other organs.
Bali has a line of cotton, no wire bras that I have worn for years.
BC.org has good articles on radiation. They strongly suggest the corn starch baby powder. Skin on skin causes erosion of the skin. This means your arm, your other breast and under your breast. I checked there as it is a place I never look. The powder I got has aloe and Vit E. and I have found it very useful already.
Supposedly, I have 5 weeks of rads coming up. There is also a choice of 3 weeks. I don't know the difference though I suspect the dose is stronger with the 3 weeks.
Since I have DCIS Stage 0, Grade 1, hormone + and am 76 years old, I would like to forgo radiation alltogether. I really want the Oncotype test but no one will order it for me. This test became available last Dec. for DCIS. I have a 80% of dying in the next 15 years with or without further treatment. I don't want the cure to be worse than the disease.
I will report back when I have any news or informaiton to add.
I am not a happy camper but I appreciate you ladies sharing your experience on the awful journey.
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janiemomof2 Well hi there! I am jumping in here too. My meeting with my RO is the week before you start. I am going to ask her about some tests and this boost! Thanks for the tip!
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In regards to the tattoos, my RO told me not only are they there to mark for thechnicians, but in case there is ever the need to go through radiation again they inform other doctors where we have been radiated in the past. He said he knows when he sees them he knows where the line is drawn. Hope that gives some more comfort as to the purpose.
I am so glad it was mentioned about holding breath for the left side, since that is my side also.
I still don't have a start date yet, waiting on insurance approvals. This has been my biggest struggle thus far. It's so frustrating to me because I feel like I am in limbo and it's out of my control. I am trying very hard to practice patience, not one of my strengths. -
Hi everyone - I haven't been on in a while, 5th chemo kicked my butt. Tomorrow I go for my last chemo, I'm so excited to be done with that and now wanting to get radiation over with. I was told 6 weeks but not much else at this point I'm hoping I can get my appointments made for all the mapping and whatever else I have in store. I've been learning alot from you ladies, I have picked up some nice soft bras, sucks about the swimming thing, I might have to break that rule. What are boosters? Is that when they concentrate right on the area where the tumor was? I was told 1 week of that, I had a lumpectomy and I am also left breast and worried about my heart and lungs, especially since the Adrimyacin from chemo effects the heart too. Well, I hope to connect more with everyone once I get to start, probably end of june early July.
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I wanted to ask, is the position you take always lying down on your back? I would think that a table with the boob drop, like getting a core biopsy, would be better.
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Hi everyone,
I had my first real rad appointment today. I finally saw the 'teeth' people were talking about in one of these threads. There's actually a clock in the room, and it took 8 minutes from set-up to end. It took longer to set me up than the actual procedure. For those that haven't gone yet - rads is similar to an xray - you don't feel a thing. The only difference is that your arms are above your head, holding little mini-poles, your head is to the side. Boosts are when they target the exact area where the cancer was found.
I asked the nurse today about using glaxol and the other stuff before a problem shows up. She doesn't know anything about it and wants me to talk to the RO. I asked her to take a note and ask him, so she's going to. She said the corn starch is OK.
Oddly, I feel like I'm fighting something off, or my allergies are going nuts. Not great timing. I did spend a lot of time outside today, though (had the day off), think I walked about four miles in total. I'm pooped (but again, don't think this is rads related, just a weird coincidence).
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