March 2012 chemo

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  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    kltb- woohoo on the condo!  Where in Florida are you going?

    Going in to get my shot this morning, then off to work, then the hospital, hope I have the energy!

    Hope everyone has a wonderful day with minimal SE! 

  • MichelleMassey
    MichelleMassey Member Posts: 213
    edited May 2012

    Had tx #2 taxol yesterday and it seems easier than the last one so far. Wish I could say 2 more to go like some of you ladies, bot I have 10 more! At least after next week it will be in the single digits.



    DH decided to be an ass yesterday and still carrying his attitude over to today. He doesn't know it yet but he got decaf instead of regular coffee this morning! Guess I'll just sedate myself before he gets home so I don't have to deal with him. Guess they have a hard time adjusting when you can't do everything for them anymore.



    Hope everyone in and out of the chair today have a great one with little or no SEs

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    Kam - so sorry you are having such a rough time.  I am going to be sure to ask for a refill on my pain meds before I start my Taxotere, just in case.  Hydrocodone doesn't cut it for me, but Percocet seemed to help with other pain so I guess I will stick with that.  I won't be finishing up until mid-August - ugh...

    Trailgirl - just noticed your name is Kim as well - I always call onvacation by her real name because it's easier to type out, lol.  So I guess I will stick to your screen name ;)   I am dreading the lash loss worse than even the brows.  My eyes are my thing and the thought of not having lashes to put mascara on freaks me out!  Good luck in the next few days with your SE.

    Michelle - booo on DH being an ass...perhaps you should have spiked his coffee with stool softeners or such :)  Hope your SE are minimal as well.  So I wonder if people who get the weekly Taxol have less SE than dose dense - it seems like so many people have such a hard time with the every 2 or 3 weeks?  Maybe not, just a theory.

    Kim - have a good and productive day.  

    We are going to the panhandle - around Pensacola.  The Redneck Riviera as some would say ;)   But New Orleans first - its ambitious and I hope that I feel good the whole time but once we get to FL it's not like I have to do anything but sit if I don't feel like it - DH loves the beach and is more than willing to ferry the kids around and do things with them.   I actually feel human today (day 10 past last TX), good thing because I have a lot to do.   Take the kids to my parents, then try and find myself a few clothes, I have been wearing the same pair of capri pants and tee shirts to every dr appt.  Then off to BS to check on progress/what chemo has been doing (fingers crossed) with DH, then off to find HIM a few things.  He is neither capable of shopping alone nor does he like what I will buy him.  

    First though I have to finish my coffee and get dressed - someone is coming to pick up all these donations and I would quite scare them in my pjs and little "elf hat" as my DH calls my sleep cap.

  • lanagraves
    lanagraves Member Posts: 596
    edited May 2012

    Had my first cup of coffee in three months Friday, another one today, and it tasted GOOD - no dirt taste, no skunk smell (for some reason, chemo caused my favorite thing to taste and smell AWFUL)!!! Yay!!

    KCB - Hope you have a much better day today!

    kltb - The condo sounds fabulous, and so does New Orleans!! Enjoy girl!! Our trip this weekend was just what I needed. I feel so much better - now planning Nashville for Thanksgiving to celebrate being finished with treatments and radiation. Woohoo!

    TG - So not looking forward to brow/lash loss. I have my second Taxol tomorrow.

    triplem - Husbands have a way of deciding to be an ass at the most inconvenient times. I second kltb's idea of spiking his decaf with stool softeners lol!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Hi all, just checking in before I dig into my grant applications - trying to meet a deadline and with tx#3 tomorrow morning, I dunno how much work, if any, that I'll do the next little bit. DS#2 is volunteering to be my chemo buddy tomorrow.  Have to be there at 8:30 for port draw, and trying not to be anxious about my counts.  I haven't had Neulasta or Neupogen for my first two treatments, and I'm crossing my fingers that the Marrow Plus (thanks Shera, wherever you are, for recommending it!!) is working.  Feeling OK except for what I think/hope are allergies - there is so much cottonwood here it looks like snow on the ground in some places, and all the forest fires here in Colorado and New Mexico aren't helping much either.  

    So I'm charging up my hot flash tazer gun (remember that???).   I am going to zap every telemarketer that keeps calling me.  Nothing else works - my number is on the no-call list, I have ignored their calls, I have taken calls and waited until a person answered and yelled at them, I have asked them to take me off their call list (oftentimes I just get disconnected when I do that - even if I don't yell!).  They still call!!!  So, no choice but the hot flash tazer gun.  Watch out, telemarketers - Crazy Tazey is coming!!

    Hugs and purple energy to us all.   Smile

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited May 2012
    Question for you all....are those of us having a hard time on Taxol doing Dose Dense?? Are those of us saying it is OK compared to AC, or tolerable, doing weekly?? 
  • TrailGirl
    TrailGirl Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2012

    kltb - You can call me TG, KimK or K2. I'll answer to all of them. If you call me Kimberly Dawn I'll answer faster because I will think I'm in trouble!

    Kam - I guess I'm on dose dense because I get Taxol every other week with a neulasta shot the next day (today). The neulasta pain starts on Thursday and goes to Saturday. But the Taxol pain starts on Thursday and goes to Monday. It's definitely more intense and in all of my joints and muscles. I have to take vicodin around the clock, every 6-8 hours just to stay sane...it doesn't take all of the pain away.

    Good things about Taxol for me so far...my mouth is doing better. No more Chernobyl or mouth sores! I also have some appetite back. On the A/C I would not eat for 3-4 days, but on Taxol I think there was only one day where I didn't eat anything.

    lana - I had my first Coke yesterday and OMG was that good stuff! I used to drink 3 cans a day until about 2 years ago when I completely stopped. Now I'm hooked on Chai Tea with Soy from Starbucks, but I haven't had it since chemo started. Maybe it's time to check it out again.

    Triplem - You cracked me up with the decaf comment. I told my DDP (domestic partner) and she said, that's why I'm not allowed to touch her coffee. 

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited May 2012

    Trailgirl - That's interesting you can differentiate the pain of Neulasta from the pain of Taxol.  I only had pain from Neulasta for one 24 hour period after my second AC.  From my memory, it felt somewhat simlar to Taxol, except for location on body.  So sorry you have both!!  I totally agree with you on the mouth stuff...I feel like I have saliva again with Taxol.  My taste buds disappeared for a couple of days with Taxol, but they did that with AC too.  Your timeframes on Taxol pain are similar to mine and I also do painkillers round the clock!

    So atleast 3 DD Taxol (me, Januaryrice, TrailGirl) = P A I N!

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2012

    Kam-dose dense here, every other week.

    TrailGirl I had a cherry coke for the first time in forever today.  I could TASTE it!  I did refrained from drinking the whole case.

     I will make sure not to upset any of you and if I do..I'm hiding my coffee! 

  • Januaryice
    Januaryice Member Posts: 120
    edited May 2012

    I think the dose dense must be the problem as we all seem to have similar SE's. Interesting!!! Today is the first day I can actually walk around not in total pain. Almost a full week from my tx.

    Of all the liquids I have tried during this ordeal, soda is the most satisfying. I also never usually drink it and now I crave it.

  • TrailGirl
    TrailGirl Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2012

    The thing I crave most since being on chemo is red meat. I hadn't eaten red meat in at least 10 years, but over the last 8 weeks I've had steaks and hamburgers and they are fantastic!

    After this is over, and I go back to chicken and fish, I might have to treat myself to a burger at least once a month. 

  • lanagraves
    lanagraves Member Posts: 596
    edited May 2012

    kam: Another dose dense here. Never had any Neulasta pain with A/C + Neulasta, but was soooo sick and exhausted. Not sick with the Taxol but the pain (I can't tell if its muscle, bone or joint - I just know I hurt EVERYWHERE) seems similar to everyone else's so far. I get the infusion on Thursday. By Saturday mid-day, the pain is awful, worse on Sunday and Monday, and by Tuesday may be letting up a little. All in all, I don't get fully back to myself until the next Wednesday or Thursday. Yuck, but it's still better than A/C.

    TG: Coke tastes good too, and I stopped drinking sodas years ago. Now I crave Coke!

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited May 2012

    I hear you, just dying for a burger! And the worst, fattiest, take-out kind of course.

    Michell sorry about your dh. Sucks.

    Kltb: awesome about the condo and the Price! So nice of that lady...

    Today is a good day. Neulasta shot, no big deal. Still have never had any reaction (pain) from it. Only flushing of my face on the second day after it, for about 24 hours. Touch wood.

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited May 2012

    Hi KCB, Kltb and ladies

    KCB: thanks so much for posting re your experience of a first infusion re Taxotere!

    Kltb: sorry to hear about your challenge but you're sounding great. Very spark and funny.

    Ladies: We have a good chance of beating breast cancer. Have a look at:

    http://www.umm.edu/patiented/articles/how_serious_breast_cancer_000006_6.htm

    If I had the opportunity to run a race knowing I had an 88% per cent chance overall of beating this, I would be so happy...trying to remind myself that everyone is an indivdual but...thank goodness for our treatment.

    Whatever it is - surgery, chemo, immunotherapy, radiation - I give thanks to the clever doctors and scientists who at least are giving us a chance.

    Love

    Alice the Cat

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited May 2012

    Alice: thanks for that!

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited May 2012

    Thanks all DD Taxol women!  I thought it might be something else as so many say Taxol was a breeze compared to AC.  I know some of you still think it is easier than AC, but I'm not one of them.  For some reason, I'd rather be anorexic than feel like I have the flu and in pain, but then I never threw up once with AC.

    Interesting that you all are craving coke ..... ok, I just finished watching that HBO special on weight and they said the number one problem vis a vis obesity in America is soda!!!  I've never been much of a soda drinker, but when I'm really really really thirsty, there is nothing that can quench my thirst like a diet coke or a beer.  Neither are part of my usual fare.

  • Sissydi
    Sissydi Member Posts: 516
    edited May 2012

    Weekly Taxol here.....definitely easier than A/C. Just did tx #2, and except my steroid high, I feel good in comparison. I do know the fatigue will be cumulative, and I'm watching for that...had some joint and muscle pain day 3 last treatment, and am prepping myself for that!

  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited May 2012

    Michelle- LOL I will have to remember the decaf trick, although my DH works from home so it might backfire on me.

    Sorry there seem to be so many SE's from the taxol.

    Well they found a mass on my ovaries during the CT for the DEIP and they want to check it just to be sure.  Looks like tomorrow I get to have a pelvic ultrasound.  I am not sure but I think it involves the less-than-magic wand.  Frown.  Stupid BC, first it ruins the fun of being felt up, now this?!! Maybe I'll ask if they at least have one that vibrates.  Then just for giggles I will run around the hospital naked and see if anyone notices.  Arghhh.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    kltb - I've been using this natural product I read on the Hair hair hair thread that i've been using on my lashes and brows and so far so good.  It is called Brian Joseph's.  So far so good.  It isn't cheap, but if it keeps my lashes and brows it is worth it!

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited May 2012

    Tellie; that sucks about your ovaries. Lol about the vibrator though, too funny! Way to go keeping your sense of humor!

    Speaking of which (humor): you all know had a perfed bowel after my round two and they had to give me a colostomy. Well now of course I have no control over movements or NOISES! So I was at ds's piano recital the other day and of course who should start passing wind right at the quietest moment? Me. Managed to stifle it somehow long enough to see my son play, but then crept out, mortified. My dh said I should just point at him if it happens again... Anyway, seems funny to me now!

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited May 2012

    Hi Everyone

    I haven't posted here in a while but wanted to drop by.  I can see that everyone seems to be keeping their spirits up.  You're a funny bunch a chemo chicks.

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    lana - I finally started back drinking my coffee again in the morning a couple days ago when I started tasting again.  Right after first TX when I thought I would never drink coffee again, I kept thinking "but I have this new Kuerig and now it is going to just be a waste!"

    Kam- I have also read that even if you are drinking diet soda - which we do around here - your body reacts to the artificial sweetener similiarly to sugar as far as how it is processed/stored and in turn it makes you crave other sweet tastes.  I really need to do better on it but don't know if I can give it up - I will think of it later! 

    Indigo - good luck today!  And ugh on the telemarketers, we have been getting a lot of calls from political people and from charities lately.  In fact, we know if our home phone rings, it is probably not a real call because everyone usually calls our cells.

    TG - I am not a huge meat eater either.  But I started craving steak fajitas after TX #2...just out of the blue.  And I hate, hate, hate, touching/cooking meat so I made DH go to Chili's and get takeout!

    Alice - thanks for the article!

     tellie - have fun on your date with the u/s wand.  ;) Seriously, it is probably a cyst or fibroid.  I did a lot of mad searching on ovarian issues after my PET/CT at diagnosis and most things I found on here were people panicking about scans that turned out to be benign. As I have posted before, my PET/CT showed uptake in an ovary but the tech and my MO both felt it was "normal physiological uptake" due to ovulation.  I would have felt better with an u/s I think.

    Kim - thanks for the tip on the brows/lashes will have to check that out.

    KCB - oh my, how embarrassing.  I think you'll find that others aren't nearly as observant of things like that as we think they are though!

    MLB - good to "see" you!

    All - hope everyone has manageable SE today and a good day otherwise.  I always find it odd in post TX days when one day (like yesterday) I think "I feel 'normal' again.

    Update on my BS appt - yesterday she did a quick u/s and from what she could find - and she had to search around a bit - it appears that at the most, it measures 1.6 cm.  It started at 3 cm.  So chemo is working!  Then she added that there was some shadowing that might not even be part of the actual tumor and if that was the case, we might be looking at closer to just 1 cm.  I also asked her about the other issue and she assured me it was at worst "fatty tissue" in the rib area and not to worry about anything cancer related and as she said "I deal with cancers that are in the body.  This is not that."

    Did a lot of shopping yesterday - a lot.  Like I am surprised the bank didn't call and say they thought my debit card had been stolen.  But I got some warm weather tops and capri pants (shorts on my legs haven't been an option in many many pounds), and two, count em TWO new pair of yellow box flip flops! And some new hats!  The halo is going back -I tried it yesterday, it just doesn't have enough hair at the temples to look natural and oh it was a fright after I pulled my hat on and off to try on clothes all morning!  I finally ditched the hair and just wore the cap when DH and I went shopping for his clothes (and that took HOURS - he is pickier than any girl!)

    So I have come to my hair decision - if I want to wear hair, it's gonna be the wig.  Otherwise, it is a scarf and hat/cap.

    One more thing to add to my novel here.  I had ca-razy dreams all night last night - didn't sleep well at all...but one of them was a ghost from the past - our friend the dead skunk.  Yes, I dreamed I was sprayed by a skunk.  But it was at my kids school and I had to take a bath in tomato juice there.  Odd.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    kltb - good to get the hair situation under control!  I agree, the halo isn't my fav - really thought I was going to like it. Oh well!

    I am super tired today but have to work since I was off with my dad, so trying to hang the best I can!

    Hope everyone has a lovely day!

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited May 2012

    Hello KCB and ladies

    I've just read KCB's post. Haven't laughed so much in ages. An alternative title could be 'Not I but the Wind', perhaps?

    My sister used to work as a journalist for a trade magazine. One day, her colleague phoned a barrister's chambers and asked to speak to the leading lawyer.

    'I'm afraid he's on the toilet,' the receptionist replied.

    Brings a smile to my face every time.

    Best wishes

    Alice

  • journey4life
    journey4life Member Posts: 517
    edited May 2012

    Hi Marchers,

    Been a while since I've been here - between balancing tx, PT, work, and home, I just haven't felt like posting. I have been reading everyone's posts and am celebrating all the good news right along with you! And am commiserating with you on the SEs you're experiencing. You are a strong and brave group of women!

    3rd DD Taxol is next week. My SEs have been like what some of you have described - joint pain (even with Claritin) and fatigue being the worst. My mouth and tongue are still sensitive as they were during A/C; the sores just doesn't last as long. I also have the pink/discolored line above the half moons on my nails. I can feel a slight ridge on some of them and my MO said its all SEs from Taxol.

    2 Taxols left and I'll be finished! I guess its time to make an appointment with the RO to discuss whether I'll have radiation. I don't even want to think about it right now...

    KimK - welcome! You've come to the right place for support and information. Together, we'll all get through this journey!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Hi ladies!  Just completed A/C#3 this a.m.  First time for port draw for labs - what a piece of cake that was.  And some news:  the Marrow Plus herbal supplement that Shera had mentioned she took appears to work for me also!  I haven't ever had Neulasta or Neupogen yet (my MO doesn't prescribe it unless the white counts are too low).  I was a little worried about the counts being too low today for chemo because of the labs I had three weeks ago before the port placement - but today, the counts were even better than they were last time.  The only thing was, I bit my tongue and didn't tell the NP that I saw today about the supplement; but anyway, I'm curious as to whether anyone else has tried it.  The only effect I think it has other than the white counts is that it may be causing softer stools, but, that might also be the Prilosec, and anyway, so hopefully this time it'll help with the ride on the C train for the next few days. (Hopefully I don't end up on the D train this time). 

    I am this afternoon riding the decadron wave, feeling good (enough to get some work done).  Still with the zofran headache but at least I know by now what to do about that. I need to go walking too, because the only bad news, if you will, was that I gained 4 pounds!  Yikes.  I did chow down on all the grad party food, and over the past week I tried two new desserts at home, but geez.  I got told not to be concerned about my weight per se, but 4 pounds in 3 weeks is not a trend I want to see continue.  Guess the Red Warrior wasn't as hungry this time. Tongue out

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited June 2012

    Alice: thanks for sharing the laugh!

    Indigo: great to hear about the WBC being good.

    Kltb: oh, happy shopping! Good to determine what you need re: hair.

    Onvacay: sorry you're tired but have to keep plugging away....hang in there. Thinking of you and your dad.

    Day three of Taxotere#1. Minor sore throat, some odd flushed face episodes again, but no aches YET. Went to a movie with my mum this aft, felt so very decadent. The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel, lovely to watch.

  • Love74
    Love74 Member Posts: 175
    edited June 2012

    Good news - last chemo tomorrow!! woot woot!!



    Bad news - my port incision still wasn't healing after almost 4 months and the hole was getting bigger so they removed it today. They will let it heal for a few weeks then put in another one for the remainer of the herceptin. Tomorrow they will use a vein.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited June 2012

    Good morning ladies!  Dad is out of ICU after 7 days!  WOOHOO!  Still a long recovery, but looking better.  Today is my big tired day and I'm at work, but I won't be here all day, hope to make it till lunch then home to crash!

    Hope everyone has a wonderful Friday with minimal SE!

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited June 2012

    Love HAPPY DANCE FOR YOU on the last chemo! Sorry about the port though.

    onvacation hope you managed to get some rest, how is your Dad doing?

    kltb you shop more than anyone. lol  I decided I just have to wait on my hair to come back.  The wig itches way too much. 

    KCB hoping that you don't get the aches!

    Indigo isn't the port nice.  As much as I'm ready to have mine out..I'm glad I have it.  If we lived closer I'd walk with you.  I just need the exercise.

    Happy Friday to all! 

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