April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited May 2012

    Dancetrancer - your hiatus hernia will make your heartburn ten times worse than normal.  When you first start eating your meal the hiatus hernia rockets up and down and causes the heartburn.  If you take small mouthfulls for the first few and chew it very well it can stop it rocketing up and down.  After the first few mouthfuls you can eat as normal but not big mouthfuls.  We tend to have bigger mouthfuls when we are hungry.  Keep food bland if you can ie no spicy foods.  If you can,  keep your posture upright as slouching can make heartburn bad and if you lay on your back in bed it will help better than lying on your side.  Elevating your head is good just as you have been doing.  Also if you have a cough it can make heartburn worse. Also drinking water can make heartburn worse as it goes into your tummy and hits the acid so keeping upright makes it a bit better but we really don't have a choice with drinking it.  Have you tried LOSEC that can be very effective.    Also bending over is bad for heartburn so bend with your knees and not your tummy.

    Hope this helps you. Annie      

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    Good morning everyone!  Again, thank you all again for all of the support and well-wishes.  I have GREAT news - I slept the ENTIRE night without reflux waking me up ONE time!  (Of course, with a sleeping pill, but that is standard for me now during chemo.)  My symptoms were markedly improved yesterday afternoon and evening - maybe 50% of what they had been the prior days when it was almost unbearable.  Mornings are my best, and right now I am 100% symptom-free and loving life.  Aaaahhhhhhhh!!!!  I go in today for my Herceptin infusion only, which should be a breeze if past history holds true.

     butterfly - I too find it hard to find humor when I am suffering - I mean the really bad suffering - but if I'm just yucko I can usually find a way to lighten it up and crack jokes.  I usually it's some kind of sarcastic humor.  My DH is better at it than I am, so he usually helps me along.  His favorite saying, when we are trying to find a silver lining to something bad happening or an impossible decision we have to make, is "Oh look, we get to choose the prettiest turd in the bowl."  That always brings a snicker out of me.  

     lisa2012 - I understand about the Diflucan...I was thinking about getting it, then made the mistake of looking it up, too...wow, long list of things it interacts with, etc...yet I'm still thinking about it b/c I've had thrush for 2 weeks straight now with no resolution with Nystatin this time either.  I think it's weird that my counts are up now, yet I can't seem to kick it.  I know there is someone else on here who took it, but I can't recall who.  I worry about adding another drug for my liver to process, since I'm on so much stuff for relfux.  I wonder how bad would it be for you to wait until you are 24 hours post chemo to start taking it?  Maybe that would give you more peace of mind in taking it, aka less drugs in your system at one time and also you can get through your next chemo with less worry?  Of course I'm not a doc...so take what I say with a grain of salt!  Best wishes for your infusion today! 

    I feel like when I go to my chemo I hear in my head "And may the odds be EVER in your favor!"  LOL  Let the Chemo Games begin!  Now all I need is my trusty bow.  I've already got my Peetah by my side!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    cockerspaniel - thank you so much for those tips!  I just recently (aka last night) decided I needed to try and eat slower (hard to do...this is gonna take practice!), so it really helps to hear your details listed about the hiatal hernia (this is the first time they've added that to my diagnosis - so it's new to me).  

    That's interesting about the water.  Why does it make the reflux worse exactly?  Here I was thinking I was "pushing" the food through better.  I'd like to know more about the mechanism/thought process behind that.  

    I hear ya on the posture and the bending.  In the past, I found that riding my recumbent bike definitely brought on symptoms  - realized the continual "knee up towards tummy" was actually pushing my stomach contents upward.  Crazy.  

    Why is laying on your back in bed better than laying on your side? Interesting!

    What is LOSEC?  Never heard of it.

    Thank you so much for the tips - all new stuff to me, and I thought I had read everything about reflux!   

  • Rose_d
    Rose_d Member Posts: 144
    edited May 2012

    Hello all,



    I'm checking back in, had my 4th and last A/C yesterday (woo hoo) on my 13th anniversary. Last night was already rough, I finally went from neausous to throwing up :( I think because of the heart burn. Slept better than usual though and feel much better this morning.



    The bad news yesterday was that they are strongly recommending I go through radiation. I had thought no base on my earlier coonversation with the oncologist but the radiation oncologist says that the combo of one lymph node (even small at 2.5 mm) and me being under 45 is enough to say we should do it.



    I know radiation s supposed to be nothing compared to chemo but I feel like this whole thing will never end. In my mind chemo was going to end at the end of July and then I haD the tissue expander exchange to look forward and then focusing on hair regrowth and getting my life back. Now this will basically take me to Thanksgiving.



    I'm just exhausted. Anyone else likely going through radiation?



    Rose

  • chapter4
    chapter4 Member Posts: 155
    edited May 2012

    Hi Rose....I just finished AC one week ago today. Soooo glad to have it behind me...now I have 4 treatments of T. Followed by 33 treatments of radiation. To be honest after chemo, I'm not at all concerned about radiation. I hear you get tired...but big deal, who can't deal with that after all this right?



    I feel for you on your last treatment...it was rough but I just stayed way ahead on meds...I suggest you do the same. I was more tired this time too and for the first time spent a lot of time in bed, but I got through it and so will you!

    Best of luck to you on minimal SE.

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2012

    Hello All!

    Just stopping in from the March 2012 chemo thread to offer any support.  I've finsihed my A/C and have moved on to Taxol. YUCK.  But only 3 to go. Most of you are not that far behind me but I wanted to let you know to keep on trucking.

     Minimal Se's to everyone! We can do this!!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    Rose_d - UGH.  That sounds like a rough night indeed. Smile  Hope you are past the worst of the SE now!

    I've already been through radiation.  My treatment was done backwards.  (see my bio, it's complicated)  I've been in treatment since July 2011, so I full well understand the "OMG, can't believe I'm going to be in treament this long" agony and exhaustion.  You will do it, b/c you have to, to give yourself the best odds.  Somewhere, somehow, you will find the strength to push on.  

    So, back to rads.  I was petrified of it, and I hated it...but it was ALL IN MY HEAD.  Mentally, I had to force myself to go every day.  But, I did GREAT physically.  Only minimal burning by the end, and since I had a BMX, I didn't feel much pain, if any, at all.  My RO said I had a fantastic result.  The burn I did have was gone within a few weeks time, now I just still have a slight tan.  

    Calendula cream is my biggest recommendation. There is minimal data for any product showing true benefit, but I did find a few small studies that showed benefit from Calendula cream.   I slathered it on 3 to 4 times a day.  And I started moisturizing a few weeks BEFORE rads started, to give my skin a heads up.   

    I hope this helps, feel free to ask any other questions!  

  • LockeKopp
    LockeKopp Member Posts: 66
    edited May 2012

    I will refuse the Radiation.... I have 4 dd Taxol left and then I am done poisoning my body. When I saw the Radiation Onc., I felt like they want to sell me something.

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    Butterfly I use humor too. At 1/2 way it gets more challenging because of the tearful sensitiveness that has come on. But those jokes just come to me anyway...



    Jeannie- Why so many rounds of chemo? Curious.

  • sgtgee_69
    sgtgee_69 Member Posts: 14
    edited May 2012

    Hi All,

    I hope you are all in good spirits.  I had a ruff weekend, spiked a fever of 104 so I went to emegency room and spent a few days in the hospital.  I can say I'm feeling much better since getting the neupogen injections, thank god I didn't have a serious infection.  I've noticed this week that my hair is coming out but I'm trying to stay in good spirits.  My daughter graduates from high school on June 9th and by that time I will probably be completely bald.  I will be there standing tall.  My daughter told me not to worry about it and she won't be embarrased.  Treatment #2 is next wednesday so I'm getting ready mentally for the after effects.Trying to stay strong.....

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012
    sgtgee_69- Glad to hear things are on the upswing for you.  I know what you mean about the fever.  Mine spiked over 101 but I didn't have to make a trip to the ER.  My onco called in the some heavy duty anitibotics for me to take and the fever immediately came down.  I'm hoping my blood count numbers rebound so I can have my #3chemo next Tuesday.  I'll be getting a Neulasta shot on the day after to help prevent the fever/infection thing after this next round.  Good luck in the big girl chair on Wednesday!!!  Congrats to you and your daughter on her high school graduation!!!! I know you must be very proud of her. Laughing  My son just graduated from high school a few weekends ago.  I didn't attend the graduation ceremony because it was outside in the heat and humidity plus too many people.   
  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited May 2012

    Lisa2012 I too am taking the diflucan drug. I have had thrush all 4 treatments. I have had no side effects. Did yur dr say anything about the drug effecting the chemo. My dr did & I plan to ask him about it next weds when I start taxol.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012
    sgtgee_69, wow, that is a really high fever - you must have been feeling miserable!  <Hugs!>  So glad to hear you are on the mend now.  Yes, stand tall and proud at your daughter's graduation.  We are all beautiful women hair or no hair.  We are stronger together, and we WILL make it through our treatments.  I'm saying this just as much for you as for myself!  Best wishes for your tx next week. Smile
  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    How many days do you guys have to take the diflucan?  Nofear, how fast did it work? 

  • Nance72
    Nance72 Member Posts: 38
    edited May 2012

    Dancetrace sorry to hear what you have been going through, you are a strong support to so many on this page. Happy to hear you got a good night sleep and feeling better.



    Rose d sorry to hear you got sick last night. Hope you are feeling better soon.



    I had A/C #2 yesterday. I am eating well (protein each time I eat, water or deluted, cranberry juice and keeping up on my meds. So far not as nauseous as my first round. Hope my last two treatments of A/C run smooth too. I have a pre planned vacation, with one of my friends, to Glacier National Park in July after my A/C treatments. Talked to my doctor again yesterday. Even though it is not protocol he is allowing me to wait on starting the Taxol when I return so I will be able to enjoy my vacation with so hiking. After Taxol, I too will be going though 33 treatments of radiation. I did have two lymph nodes removed and a small spot of cancer was detected, my lump was 2.5 cm, and I just turned 40 means radiation is a definite. Was sick on my 21st b-day (not from drinking) and went for my physical a week prior to my 40th b-day to have the lump discovered by my doctor. These milestone b-days are not working out very well for me, but they are such a small detail in life as a whole.



    Fierro happy to hear you had a good first day back to work. Sounds like your co- workers are very supportive like mine are. I have also told some of our regular customers- they are also supportive.



    Vballmom continued prayers to you up in the Hartford area. I am on the shoreline, about 20 minute east of New Haven.



    Hope for minimal SE's to all.

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    Good morning everyone. Wishing all a good day as best you can given where you are in your cycles. I have to remind myself often to "be where my feet are". Focusing on today's "to do" list.



    Curious if there are any other military women out there. I am an AF Vet 81-90. When I tear up easily, not like me, I just have to say I've lost my military bearing again. ( :

  • Jeannie57
    Jeannie57 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited May 2012

    I have weekly infusions of CMF which is called chemo-lite by my MO. I take daily Cytoxin pills. They aren't infused. I won't lose my hair and the SE's are supposedly better. I have just had a little nausea after one treatment week. I could have had heavier doses less often but I would rather feel better. Either way, CMF is six months around here.



    I fear rads but have to have it. 3 nodes with sizable cancer in them put me over the edge. Since there were 36 nodes in my axcillary "packet," my risk of lymphedema is already higher. Rads ups that risk. I'm seeing a lymph. specialist who ordered a compression sleeve as a precaution. She says to wear it every day during rads and for a week afterwards (not during the actual rads!). So, yes, I fear rads because I fear lymphedema.

  • Nance72
    Nance72 Member Posts: 38
    edited May 2012

    Jeannie hope all goes well when you get to radiation.



    I only had two lymph nodes removed but have been to physical therapy and got my sleeve since I will be flying this summer and will also need to wear it daily during my trip because I will be in a mountainous region.

  • PositivityRocks
    PositivityRocks Member Posts: 35
    edited May 2012

    Kjiberty, thanks for the tip...gotta get that cleared with my OBG 1st as I m 35 weeks pregnant.

  • PositivityRocks
    PositivityRocks Member Posts: 35
    edited May 2012

    Hi to all, I hope you ladies are managing with any side effects you may be having.



    Had my 2nd AC infusion yesterday. Feeling slightly nauseous but I'm taking all my meds on schedule. Baby Ethan is kicking up a storm here so that's a great sign as well.



    Just shaved my head bald today and surprisingly I like it! It feels so cool in this warm weather (90s temp) and with all the added heat of pregnancy.

    Today s a holiday here so the wig shop is closed, if I decide on getting one for my cousin's wedding I'll pop in to wig shop n purchase as I got fitted on Monday.



    Hugs to all you remarkable women. Keep your chin up. We can do this!

  • mistym
    mistym Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2012

    Good morning everyone,

    I hope all is well.

    I had my first FEC treatment yesterday.  I was given four anti-nausea meds to take for the rest of the week twice a day and I can't even imagine how bad I would feel without the meds because I am feeling pretty bad.  I have to go back to the hospital tomorrow morning for a Neupogen injection and then for six days I have to have the same injection.  A home care nurse will come starting on Friday but if I think that I or my SO can do it ourselves we will. I've been sneezing alot this morning so am not sure if I am coming down with a cold and will watch my temp.  The only thing I can manage to eat is crackers.  I find it funny that the meds have to be taken with food when the last thing I want is food.

    I hope everyone has a good day.

    Misty Smile

  • PositivityRocks
    PositivityRocks Member Posts: 35
    edited May 2012

    Hi misty. I ish you better. Mabe some light soup can be tolerated? My meds say the same thing. But regardless of how i am felling the pregnancy has me hungry a lot. So for me I do get to take my meds with a meal....hubby made soup for dinner on Monday and last night was mashed potatoes...they seem to work with the meds to keep nausea at bay.



    Best wishes to you.



  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Hi all - I have a whole buh-hunch (Indigospeak for ****load) of work to power through today - trying to meet a grant review deadline and not sure if I'll be working at all tomorrow (tx#3 in the morning) or Friday (or Monday which will probably be "crash day") - so I'm checking in for now. 

    Stacie, may I just say, thank you for your service!!  I'm not a vet but admire and respect those in the military.  I just wish there were better services for vets and their families although I think things have improved over the last while, but IMO, it all has a way to go.  

    sgt_gee69, I have a sneaking suspicion you're a vet too, or maybe still on duty?  I am so glad to hear from you and that you are doing better.  And may I add my congrats on your daughter's graduation. 

    Positivity - TS Beryl didn't come your way, I hope??  It sounds like it's farther north, so hoping no bad weather for you to contend with.  You really are an inspiration (I hope you aren't tired of hearing that yet, because I mean it).

    Mistym, sure hope you feel better soon.  Sending purple healing energy your way!  

    Dancetrancer, doing the happy dance (gosh, I haven't done that since my drains were out!!) that you had a good night!  

    vballmom, hoping you are well enough to go home today and continue to improve there!!

    kath99, how are you today?  Thinking about you!!  

    Butterflylady, humor is a life (or at least sanity) saver for me.  I'm not really all that clever with sarcastic humor but I like to laugh at it.  Usually my guys (DH and two sons) are great for daily doses of LOL, and on my really bad days, I often resort to funny TV and movies if I just can't think.  I confess that I even laugh at awful stuff like Rob Dyrdek's Ridiculousness and Impractical Jokers.  I discovered Duck Dynasty on A&E; oh, my goodness. I have laughed at those bearded backwoods dudes until I cried - even with my dry eyes.  (DH even bought me Ms. Kay's cooking video for Mother's Day).

    So as I was typing this, I got yet another call from a telemarketer!!  (An area code that I don't recognize is a sure tipoff, right?)  OK Ladies, I am whipping out the hot flash tazer gun to fry these cotton-pickin' telemarketers that KEEP CALLING ME!!  I have tried everything else.  My number is on the no-call list.  I have ignored them.  I have taken their calls, gotten through the automated attendant and yelled at them.  I have asked them to take me off their call list and put up with their hanging up on me afterward, called back and got them to say they would put me on their list.  All to no avail!  I heard on the news that talking to them at all -even to tell them to put you on the no-call list, just encourages them to keep calling you!!  So, no other resort but the hot flash tazer gun.  

    OK, that's Indigo's little rant for the day, and Butterflylady and anyone else, hope it gave you a little dose of LOL. 

    Cross your fingers that my counts are good tomorrow!  I've never had Neulasta or Neupogen after txs 1 and 2, and have been taking a supplement called Marrow Plus, that I heard about from someone on the March thread.  

    Hugs and purple energy to us all.  Dancetrancer and Melrose are right - we are stronger together, no matter where we are!

  • mistym
    mistym Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2012

    Loving the purple energy Indigo....my favourite colour!

    I want to thank everyone on this site.  You have all been such an inspiration and support to me for the months prior to me joining your group as I followed your posts and I know will be there for me on my journey.

    Hugs to all

  • sherryh16
    sherryh16 Member Posts: 120
    edited May 2012

    Hi everyone,

     Been a rough week since first treatment last Thursday.  Not able to work, nauseated, constipated, then diarrea, overwhelming fatigue, some chest pains, all foods taste like cardboard........ugh.  Wondering if effects of each chemo treatment will worsen, lessen, or remain about the same.  I'm contemplating taking a four month medical leave of absence until last treatment in September.  The stress of not feeling good enough to even attempt to get up and ready for work is really wearing on my spirit.  I feel I could just do better to hybernate until treatment is complete and side effects diminish.  Feel like such a wimp not able to deal with it.  Would appreciate input from others.  See oncologist tomorrow for blood count draw and will get his opinion too.  Thanks.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Hi, Sherry!  I see from another post that you're on T/C. Since I'm on A/C, I'm not sure if my experience will be similar or helpful to you or not, but there are lots of ladies here on the same cocktail, and I'm sure you'll get some helpful feedback.  As for taking leave, I think it depends not only on how you feel but what you do for work.  I have a desk job and have been fortunate enough to be approved by my employer to telework full time.  It would be much, much harder for me if I had a retail job or something like that, that requires dealing with people on a daily basis and being on my feet, for sure.  I know there are people here who got approved for FMLA leave and can give you advice about that if you need it. 

    My MO was the one who recommended at my first visit that I work from home, in my case, not just because of not feeling well, but also because of the risk of infection.  I normally commute to work via public transportation (aka bus), with all walks of life, and that's pretty much out, too, for the time being.

  • vjm
    vjm Member Posts: 79
    edited May 2012
    Good Morning Everyone - 5th night post 3rd chemo and finally slept!! Feeling better for it and determined to get out for  a walk today.... one step forward. I am feeling very fortunate that I am on a medical leave and supported by my work to be off until I recover from my treatments. I too had radiation prior to chemo and used calendula oil and cream as Dancetrancer described, but did have wicked 'radiation recall' when I started chemo. I admire all of you that are getting out there despite s/e's and ups and downs of this treatment and just sending lots of love and healing energy to everyone on this day. vjm xoxo.
  • sherryh16
    sherryh16 Member Posts: 120
    edited May 2012

    Thanks IndigoMont11,

    I work public service, on my feet alot dealing with the public continually in person or via phone.  I have no support staff to back me up, so when I'm gone things for the most part don't get done.  Local government office with such staff cutbacks, and no cross-training, little gets done,  Very inefficient system.  IMO management just doesn't care.  No option to telecommute.  I'm concerned about infection and my high level of fatigue.  Need to lay down and nap about every 2-3 hours, couple times a day.  Not really something that could easily be done at work.  I'm just feeling for my own piece of mind and wellness, I would do better to take the leave and deal with the treatments.  Just wondering what others have done in similar situations.  I put idea out to HR and am awaiting her response.  I'm quite sure its not what they would prefer since I've been doing my job for 28 years and it would really throw them for a loop if I was gone, but got to do what I need to do.

  • mistym
    mistym Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2012

    Hi,

    I am also very fortunate to be able to be on medical leave until I recover from treatment.  If all goes well and according to schedule, I should be able to return to work in the new year.  I feel very lucky that I can use all of my energy to focus on beating this.

    Positive-perhaps I will try some soup for lunch.  I am having difficulty with the "soothing tea" right now but will try soup in a bit.

    Hugs to all

  • vballmom
    vballmom Member Posts: 426
    edited May 2012

    Hello everyone! I am still in the hospital getting amazing care and not-so-amazing food...Wink  The doctors said my neutrophils showed a spike and the trend is good.  I may be sprung tomorrow!  I am still nauseous, and I'm frustrated because keeping a little something in my tummy is nearly impossible.  Maybe I will lose a few pounds! 

    I have my own business, which hubby is running in my absence.  I will be able to pick and choose my hours and I am fortunate that I can nap whenever I choose.  I've hardly been able to work since March and my three surgeries. It will be tough on our finances. Add that to the fact that I will have two in college come September!

    SGTgee - we are traveling similar paths.  This weekend is DD's senior prom. She is graduating on the 20th and I really, really don't want to miss that.  I feel badly enough that I am not up for throwing a graduation party.  She has been having a tough time not having me at home.  I know she is nearly grown up, but it is so hard to watch the worry in her.  

    Positivity, I have you and baby Ethan in my thoughts.  What a story you will have to share with him someday!  

    Sherry, your first week sounds like mine.  Let's keep our fingers crossed that things will improve.  You, too, Misty!

    IndigoMont - I hope your counts are good!  I can't even comprehend how mine will be good enough on Monday for round #2 but I pray that the process will just keep rolling.

    Nance - you  are giving me hope that next week may not be as bad!  How fun to have a trip to look forward to.

    dancetrancer - I am glad you had a little relief last night.  You are just a poster child for some of these sided effects, huh?

    Stacie - not military but highly appreciative!  Thank you for your service!

    I find it interesting that I was admitted to the hospital but others here were not for similar symptoms.  I have learned so much here. I am on the oncology floor.  The atmosphere here is quite unique - almost reverent and holy in a way that I didn't expect.  Almost everyone who works here says this is the best place in the entire hospital.  The doctors, nurses and staff speak highly of each other.   Support workers and volunteers murmur that this is a special place.  

    Thank you all for sharing your journey here. Even when I can't focus to post responses, I am following, learning and am with you in spirit.

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