April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • slak
    slak Member Posts: 179
    edited May 2012

    Been a while since I posted, but trying to keep up with everyone.  Welcome to all the new ladies!  It's never too late to join in.  I go in for my last TC tomorrow so I will be done with chemo.  Guess I am one of the lucky ones to only have to do 4.  I can't wait to be done and just start healing.  I had a low moment yesterday thinking of the weight of all this, but this morning I'm doing better.  Round 3 for me was not bad (nothing requiring a call into the MO) so I was happy with that.  Because of mouth issues first two rounds (despite active attempts at prevention with baking soda/salt solution, biotene rinse, nystatin, magic mouthwash) my MO gave me a scrip for Chlorhexidine Rinse.  No mouth sores this round at all.  The only thing I find that is cummulative, like some of the others, is severe fatigue.  I get really achy just walking and even when I stretch in bed it hurts my muscles.  I don't feel ready for this next round, but am anxious to be done.  

    VBallmom - I hope you get out the hospital soon!  Hang in there.

    As for skin - yep, my facial skin looks a little better and feels softer.  I don't feel I look younger though, especially with tiny gray hairs sticking off the top of my hide (I barely had any gray before this).

    Oh, just wanted to mention to those with the beginnings of a fever... in case you weren't told, avoid taking tylenol or advil until you know where that fever is headed (both drugs can mask a fever and if your temp goes above your MO's threshold, call and they'll let you know what to do). 

    Dancetracer - thanks for the info on neutropenia.  It seems like that is one area where prevention is handled differently by different MOs.  Mine has always had me take the full Neulasta shot 24-48 hrs after chemo and I never get my blood checked until the day of my next chemo.  Watching for fever is the only way I'm monitored.  I'm lucky my insurance pays for the majority of the Neulasta, though.  I think they must have figured that a hospital visit due to infection can outpace the cost of the shot.  Needless to say, I did still get a nasty upper respiratory infection the second round, from someone at the chemo center (I'm pretty sure of this because the MOs office said that multiple people called in the same day I did with the same symptoms a couple days after getting chemo).  So you can't avoid everything (even with all the handwashing and sanitzer).  I'm just hoping its kept to a minimum for everyone!

     Well, off to enjoy the great weather before my final time in the chair (Woohoo!)

    I hope everyone is hanging in there! 

  • PositivityRocks
    PositivityRocks Member Posts: 35
    edited May 2012

    Hey Ladies, havent posted in a while.

    Started my Chemo: 4 AC every 3 weeks + 12 T weekly

    Infusion #1 at 31 weeks pregnant on May 2. Went well. No nausea, took all my meds on time. Had lots of insomnia, heartburn, fatigue, swollen feet and joint pain (prob as a joint SE of pregnancy as well).  I am HUGE!! Pregnancy SX are on the loose, I get tired quickly, have insomnia, short breath, but so far baby boy Ethan is doing great, all his scans were normal etc. Thank GOD!

     

    Scheduled for infusion #2 tomorrow. and then to see my obg in a week to confirm on induction date based on how my CBC looks.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    mistym- Once you get that port in, you will glad you have it.  I have one and so glad I do!!!  My poor little veins just burrow deep when they hear those nurses/techs coming!!!  If you are getting your port in the upper chest, you may want to mark where your bra straps lay so perhaps the surgeon putting the port in can place it away from the strap.  As everyone will tell you, after the port is placed, it will be sore and hurt.  However, it will get better as you heal.  Also ask for a prescription for EMLA cream that you can put on after your port area has healed.  The EMLA cream is lidocaine cream that is applied an hour before you have an infusion.  You will probably need it for your third treatment.  At the second treatment, ask the infusion nurse to spray the port area with numbing spray.  Some quick tips for your first infusion-- it may last longer than the other ones since it is the first and you will be introduced to the infusion's centers procedures.  Make sure you eat and eat 5-6 small meals everyday.  A fed tummy is a happy tummy.  Be sure to drink lots of water the day before the infusion ( so your veins are good for tomorrow), during the infusion and the days following the infusion.  You want to flush that chemo outYou want to flush that chemo out.   If you are thinking, if I drink all of this fluid/water, I've got to use the restroom. Yes, you can get up and walk around during the infusions.  Just ask the nurse to unplug your IV from the electric socket.  You may want to take a sandwich/snacks in case you are there for a long time and you get hungry.   I ice my nails during the Taxotere infusion part-- I ice 15 minutes before the infusion, during the infusion and 15 minutes after the infusion.  I also have clear nail polish on the nails to help keep them strong.  The icing and nail polish was the suggestion of my onco--- so far so good.   Hope you will have someone with you at the infusion because having someone there for support is wonderful.  If you have questions, ask.  Someone is only a click away from answering you!!!  Good luck tomorrow--- You need to say "I can do this!" out loud and after tomorrow when you get home, you need to say "I am doing this!!!"

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012
    PositivityRocks- YAY for you and baby Ethan!!!  Sending lots of positive, healing and calming prayers, thoughts and energy!!! You are awesome!!!!Laughing
  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    About to take off for DFW (home). Been gone since Tuesday. I am tired but okay. Had a good 2 day business trip + time with friends and family. It really broke up my 1/2 way point. I will be home until Sunday then a 4 day trip to AK. I am taking my niece to help me with lifting on my business appts. Were going to have fun too. Then round #4. I can't believe I am 1/2 way.

  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited May 2012

    Question for everyone - I had tx# 1 three weeks ago.  I've had no contact with my doctor since.  No shot, no blood work.  It sounds like most of you know when your counts are low, etc. and then can react to that.  Is this thru blood work or are you going by how you feel?  Has anyone else not gotten a Neulasta shot after tx#1? 

  • Ashlyn
    Ashlyn Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2012

    Starting my first Taxol tx tomorrow. Im really anxious... think I am just worried about an allergic reaction. Nurse said they will give me Dex by IV pre-chemo to reduce chance of reaction as well as Benadryl and Rinadene??(spell) by IV which also is supposed to reduce chance of allergic reaction. Have others had Benadryl by IV before hand as well on Taxol? Benadryl usually makes me so loopy and out of it. I think I may end up needing an Ativan for this round!! I just get so nervous before something new like this. Cant wait for all 4 rounds to be over!! By mid July I will be done if all goes smoothly and my blood counts are good! Fingers crossed I react well to the drug and my worst SEs are fatigue. 

    Good luck with everyone else having treatment this week!  

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    Isharvey- my blood labs for the 2nd infusion were done the day I had my infusion.  Fortunately, my numbers were good.  I've had my 2nd infusion almost 2 weeks ago which means I am at the low point for WBC.  I developed a fever early yesterday morning which meant a phone call to my onco to figure out what to do.  She called in some antibotics and told me not to worry.  I've got a week to kick that infection and hope my numbers will be up.   According to my onco,  I will only receive the Neulasta shot in the event my numbers are too low for my chemo and did not receive one after my 1st infusion.

    AshleyB- I was told that I could have Activan with my infusions at the first one and have had it during both of my infusions.  Yes, it makes me sleepy and so I'm glad that my DH is there with me for support and to do the driving!!! I know I received Benedryl during the first infusion and don't know if I got it during the second one.  Make sure you drink during your infusion as well as the days to follow to help flush out the chemo.  Also, some ice in your mouth since it may help  prevent the mouth sores.  Good luck with your infusion tomorrow!!!

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited May 2012

    Ishharvey:  I had bloodwork exactly a week after my first treatment.  She then determined I would need the Neulasta shot after my next three remaining treatments due to my WBC.  She also put me on antibiotics for 10 days and I have to use them 10 days post treatment for the remaining three treatments as well.

    My skin also looks pretty good (microdermabrasion soft). Probably too because my peach fuzz and chin hairs (LOL)are gone--for now! 

    I am having chest pain (can't tell if it's heartburn as I have never had it), or a SE from the Neulasta, which was received on 5.18.   

  • Ashlyn
    Ashlyn Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2012
    She - thanks for the tips! My fiance will be there too (he comes for all treatments luckily) and it is nice to know I am taken care of...especially when Im all drugged up and sleepy. At least we can take the Ativan when we need it, right!? 
  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited May 2012

    Vballmom hope u feel better soon, sorry u had to end up in the hospital.



    Ashleyb make sure u.post what side effects u encounter I have my first taxol a week from weds. I too will be using Ativan. I had it for this last infusion & it has made all the difference.



    Thank u everyone for yur support, tips & information. This is one of the best sites & welcome all newbies.

  • Ashlyn
    Ashlyn Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2012
    nofear2012: I will definitely post my SE for sure. Ativan is great for calming the nerves... the one thing I do find though is it gives me 'day' dreams hours later. I close my eyes and start the weirdest dreams but am not actually asleep. This happened also when I had my MRI and took 2 Ativan for that. It is kind of a mind-F*&$ I think!! 
  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    lsharvey - my onc checked my bloodwork 1 week post my first TCH.  ANC was I think around 500 something then, but since it was my first round, he wanted to confirm my nadir dates (exactly when I was lowest) so he waited on Neupogen and had my bloodwork retested day 9.  It had dropped further into the 200's.  So then we knew I definitely drop lowest days 7-9.  We started Neupogen and antibiotics preventatively at that time since I was so low.

    I felt like crap and had a low grade fever and heartburn and all of my other issues.  I don't know how much of that is related to the low whites or just my SE from chemo. ?

    We rechecked right before 2nd round, and I had climbed to just above what was safe for chemo, so we went ahead.  2nd round dropped below 500 by day 7...since I started out lower it got hit harder earlier (cumulative effect on my whites).  That is why this time (3rd round) he had me start the Neupogen even earlier (day 1 post chemo) - so that I'll be higher starting out my 4th round than I was on my 2nd round.  (We delayed 3rd round 1 day b/c my counts were just barely above what is ok for chemo - whites jumped up great with just one extra day of recovery).

    If you are recovering nicely by your 2nd chemo (and not just barely above the level ok for chemo), then you may not be dropping that low/need Neupogen.  I would think?  

  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited May 2012

    Hey vball mom, hope you are feeling better. Any idea of when you get to leave hospital?

    Melrose, yes, our stats are pretty similar. I met a friend for lunch diwntown( even though u was wearing a new shorte wig for the first time and felt nervous) and we windows hopped, had bagel and turkey, and my spirits picked up. Did a 25 minute walk this am too. Funny, I had red dots too and how great if they are sun damage spots being healed!!! Whole excursion was 2 hrs, now I am in lazyboy resting. Really like this group, glad I found it.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Hi all, gosh, after only a few hours I'm so far behind! Hugs to everyone.



    Vballmom, hope you get better and go home soon! Purple healing energy to you.



    Positivity, you've been on my mind since you first posted. So glad you and Ethan are tolerating A/C okay! Are they having you on bedrest or can you do normal activity? Are you due in June?

  • PositivityRocks
    PositivityRocks Member Posts: 35
    edited May 2012

    Thanks melrose and indigo for the well wishes for baby Ethan and I



    I'm actually due on July 4 but the OBG and husband and I discussed inducing early between infusion #2 and #3 so as to get it done when counts are stable and I'm not too far along into treatment and fatigued. So we're meeting her next week as I go over to Trinidad then ....at that time we would do bloodwork and finalist dates. If we do set it for June 7, would prob stay in Trindad to avoid the back and forth via the ferry.



    Indigo - my husband and I work for ourselves, we have a small catering company in Tobago. So basically we only accept jobs based on my chemo schedule and ability to cope with the long hours standing etc. it's been ok managing work and rest but asiremnd him, the bills don't stop coming so we really do need to make sure we get some jobs in to cover expenses.



    Go into my 2nd infusion of AC tomorrow....wish us luck and minimal SE!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    Best wishes for you 2nd infusion tomorrow Positivity!!!

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    lsharvey I have had a neulasta shot after all three rounds. I only had blood work before travel but it wasn't routine. I had it the day prior to #2 & 3.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited May 2012

    Good luck tomrorow, Positivity!

  • Renaematteson
    Renaematteson Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2012

    Hi there .. I'm new to boards but just finished chemo in April.  Wanted you all to know that you can get through it! I have a port because I have crappy veins. I have had so many weird side effects and everytime I ask the doctor he says its all normal. Heres a brief list:  white sores in throat (thought I had strep but it was from chemo), lactose intolerance, constipated for first 3-4 days after chemo then would change to diarrhea, runny nose, cyst under right underarm, naseau, headaches, muscular and bone pain, hemorrhoid (burst), numb toes, fingernails are flattening and curving funny (I pray I don't lose them). Hair fell out about 15 days after first treatment. Lost eye brows and eye lashes about two-three weeks after my final session. Fatigue, fatigue, fatigue ... even now 7 weeks out.  Take good care of your teeth, don't brush or floss too hard and use Biotene for dry mouth.  I just started radiation and am told that will make me tired too.. YAY!  I would give anything to feel normal again!!   But this too shall pass!

  • PositivityRocks
    PositivityRocks Member Posts: 35
    edited May 2012

    Thanks dancetrance and kjiberty.



    Felling very stressed....I took a very low haircut the day beforemy 1st infusion .....tonight my hair is coming out a lot! Didn't expect it to so much at once. My 3 year of daughter is concerned by the amount of hair on the pillow. I'm gonna have to shave it off tomorrow after infusion #2. Never thought I'd be so emotional about hair.



    My cousins wedding is on Saturday. Guess I'm gonna have to get a wig.....and my foob hasn't arrived as yet either. The fitter imports them from the US....I'm a bit grumpy about that.

  • Renaematteson
    Renaematteson Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2012

    Hi there .. I'm new to boards but just finished chemo in April.  Wanted you all to know that you can get through it! I have a port because I have crappy veins.

     I have had so many weird side effects and everytime I ask the doctor he says its all normal. Heres a brief list:  white sores in throat (thought I had strep but it was from chemo), lactose intolerance, constipated for first 3-4 days after chemo then would change to diarrhea, runny nose, cyst under right underarm, naseau, headaches, muscular and bone pain, hemorrhoid (burst), numb toes, fingernails are flattening and curving funny (I pray I don't lose them). Hair fell out about 15 days after first treatment. Lost eye brows and eye lashes about two-three weeks after my final session. Fatigue, fatigue, fatigue ... even now 7 weeks out. 

    Take good care of your teeth, don't brush or floss too hard and use Biotene for dry mouth. 

    I just started radiation and am told that will make me tired too.. YAY!  I would give anything to feel normal again!!  

    But this too shall pass! We are women .. hear us roar!

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited May 2012

    I have been surprised by the outpouring of support I've experienced since my surgery, mainly due to a website called www.takethemameal.com. A friend of mine started it by sending a few emails and it grew until a month's worth of meals were provided.  Now they are talking about starting it again when I begin chemo.  I was so surprised by some of the people who signed up.  Many of them are people I barely know.  It has meant so much to me knowing that people have taken time out of their busy lives to plan, shop, prepare, cook, and deliver meals to me.  I hope those of you are feeling alone find just one person to be the administrator of the website for you.  You might be surprised by who signs up.  I felt awkward at first, but it was truly a Godsend.

  • mistym
    mistym Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2012

    Thank you Melrose for all of the tips Smile.  Someone is coming with me. 

    To Renaematteson - I am new as well but I am just starting chemo tomorrow morning.   Thank you for all of your tips as well.  I realize that everyone has different reactions to the medication but it is good to know what to possibly expect.

    I will post tomorrow to let everyone know how the treatment goes.

    "I can do this"

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited May 2012

    Marcia:  I hear you!  I have meals twice a week delivered to me through July 1.  My last chemo is on June 28th (God-willing!)

    Positivity:  a few strands fell out day 14, day 15--clumps.  Day 16, I had it shaved in a private room in a hair salon.  My breakdown came on the 15th day when clumps came.  Shaving it was liberating--I did't have to worry about it anymore.  I am on day 11 after my second treatment, and even though it was shaved, it grew a little bit, and there are little bits on my pillow.  Per the recommendations here, I have used a lint brush the keep the shedding at bay.  It does help.  My scalp is pretty sore right now because I am sure I will be a total, shiny bald person within the next few days.  I hate my wig.  I only wear it to work.  It hurts my head like a tight headband.  

    Renae:  Thanks for your input on your treatments.  My brows and lashes are getting more scarse, and I have heard you do lose a good majority of them after the 4th treatment.  I guess the slowest to grow is the slowest you lose.  At least you are done with chemo.   

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited May 2012

    Mistym:  Good luck tomorrow and my advice is to take your anti-anxiety pill before you leave the house for your treatment.  

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited May 2012

    Ashleyb interesting about the Ativan. I only take a half of one & it takes care of my nausea & emotions. I also found out it is addictive. Good luck this week!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    Positivityrocks- Sorry to hear about the hair.  I just wanted you to know that I may be one of the few who has not not opted to buzz it close  and has lost a lot of hair.    I started losing hair 15 days after my first round of chemo.  the following weekend, I cut part of my short bob off in five little ponytails so i could use the hair later to make a hair halo.  After that, my DH got his trusty electic clippers with a one inch cutting guard and gave me a very short short boy hair cut.  I have a veil of hair and don't know if the rest if coming out since the fallout has slacked off.    I have a wig but it is too hot and humid here in Houston, Texas to wear it.  I wear caps and hats and Buffs when I go out.  I know the loss of hair is handled differently by each of us but we all understand the physical changes that one goes through on this journey.    I've made hair transitions since I first got diagnosed in February 2012 when I had waist length hair.  I cut my hair to a short bob in March 2012 before I had my UMX.  Now in early May, I cut it to a very short short boy haircut.  The idea of buzzing close to my scalp hasn't appealed to me so that probably isn't happening any time soon.   Whatever you decide to do with buzzing the hair or getting a wig, you have our support here to help you get through the hair thing.  You just need to take control over the hair situation before it takes control over you.  As for your 3 year old daughter, you just tell her that when the time is right, it will come back.  Right now, the time is not right.  Go get yourself a beautiful hat and wear it proudly at your cousin's wedding.  If there is a fabric store close by, you may be able to find a sew in bra padding that you can pin in your bra if your foob doesn't arrive on time.   I can only imagine how beautiful you look now with Baby Ethan, and your daughter and husband at your side. 

  • Fierro6
    Fierro6 Member Posts: 224
    edited May 2012

    A group of coworkers started up with takethemameal.com for me, and it was amazing.  Everything has been brought by small groups, so I got to see folks that I missed, and they would bring several dishes (casseroles, etc) that just needed warmed or baked, and all came with instructions.  They brought things with my daughters in mind (Poptarts! ha ha) and things that could be prepared with minimal effort.  It has been one of the biggest blessings so far.  I work with some amazing people, and that is an amazing program.  

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited May 2012

    Positivitiy:  The only time I take the Atavan is the day of my treatment.  I do not want to become addicted to it or any other drugs. I do take ambien to help me sleep.  I have been having a really hard time sleeping during this phase of my treatment and I would rather sleep and be rested.  I hate doing it, but I feel as I have no choice. I need the rest.

    Melrose:  I wish I would have know about making a hair halo before I had mine buzzed off.   

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