June 2012 Radiation Rads

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  • Goodie
    Goodie Member Posts: 244
    edited May 2012

    Imlola - I wish my counting was like yours.  I have like 13 seconds then a tiny break 3 seconds, 2 seconds. 1 second for the first zap.  Then like 3 more sequences that move around my body.  It is very quick though!  So much easier than chemo.  Okay, I say that now.  Remind me at the end of June how I feel!  LOL.  I'm okay with sleeping; I'm just wondering how the radiation fatigue will be for me.  I've read that with fatigue you can wake up tired and exhausted.  This too will pass and it is what it is.  I seem to say that a lot these days. 

    I think I'm getting 28 regular treatments.  Why do some people get boosts?  Is there a theory?  What do boosts do?  I haven't wrapped myself around radiation yet. 

  • lmlola59
    lmlola59 Member Posts: 146
    edited May 2012
    Goodie Funny you are mentioning the fatigue I was just discussing this with my hubby.But my RO mentioned when I saw him at simulation that it is different then any other fatigue.Does he mean different then chemo fatigue or different than fatigue for a person who has not gone through chemo.He also contradicted himself when I saw him Thursday.Two weeks ago he said I wouldn't feel the fatigue till about 4 weeks and Thursday he said I would notice this right off.So I have no idea what to expect on this I will just have to see how I am feeling.I would think the amount of rads and whether you get boost or not is all based on our own pathology report and protocol of the establishment you are going to.I also believe the boost is directed to the actual tumor location as opposed to the entire breast.When I met with my MO 2 weeks ago he mentioned boost but never told me if I was getting them or how many.I was told yesterday that my perscription was esatblished and I would need another simulation before the boost so maybe they will still bring this up with you.
  • Peacock
    Peacock Member Posts: 86
    edited May 2012

    Hi -- I started this past Tuesday. It's okay, but I'm already tired. I think it's more from anxiety than anything else.

    I have been v emotional each time, crying almost every time I go.  I can't explain this, but if it happens to you, you're not alone!

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited May 2012

    Hi again ladies - I do get the crying and radiation.  Even though I haven't started yet, I cried for 3 days after my initial meeting.  I think I said that here before - oh well, sorry!    For me, I think it is because I feel like I just ran a Marathon, then I get to the finish line and someone says, "Oh no, you have 15 more miles to run."   That's why I cried.

    BOOST - My RO said the first 28 sessions are for the entire area, and the last boost sessions are for the scar (in my case a mastectomy) because cancer is most likely to recur near or at the scar, plus scar tissue is thicker.  I never heard that before, but hey, he ought to know!  It made sense. 

  • Goodie
    Goodie Member Posts: 244
    edited May 2012

    I hope my RO is patient with me when I get to have my appointment with her this week!  I have sooooo many questions for her.   I need to start writing them down. 

    I started coughing the other night.  I wonder if it's related and could it start this soon into radiation?  3 treatments?  I guess i will go back into some old threads and see if and when anyone coughing.  Makes me think they haven't missed my lung.  Another question on my list for the RO.  It's not constant but if I lay down.  I don't feel sick otherwise. 

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited May 2012

    Goodie - it's impossible for them to not get any lung in the field. Basically if there's no lung in the field then there's breast that isn't being done (unless you are being treated prone).



    I'd definitely be checking with your RO because in future years if you have a chest x-ray the damage will show (yes, it will be permanently damaged) and you should be able to tell them so no-one panics that you have some other problem, or so they take into acoount your lung damage...



    Jenn

  • Goodie
    Goodie Member Posts: 244
    edited May 2012

    Thanks Jenn. 

    Radiation seems to freak me out more than chemo.  What's up with that?

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited May 2012

    Freaks me out too... It's because with whole breast rads there are far more potential serious or fatal long-term side effects from rads than for chemo. Who tells you that up front when you're making decisions!



    Wish that I had realised it before I agreed to the lump/rads option. But in the end it wouldn't have mattered because I had positive nodes and so even if I'd had the UMX they still would have wanted to radiate...



    Cancer sucks!



    Jenn

  • Goodie
    Goodie Member Posts: 244
    edited May 2012

    Jenn - I was given same treatment plan from both opinions.  I am trying to think positive about all of my treatments.  My son (15) likes the comparison of the chemo like pac man eating the cancer cells.  I feel like that too and with the radiation zapping the suckers dead!  I did chemo, then BMX and now rads.  I've said it will be a year of hell.  I should be done rads by early July.  Then, some more fills (OMG - those are so painful) and then reconstruction probably in January.  I want to play with my grandchildren!  So, I am doing what "they" tell me to do.  I just don't feel like I "know" as much about radiation. 

    I had positive nodes too so I "need" the rads.   

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited May 2012

    We're in it together :-) Doesn't mean I have to like it though... I just have to put on my big girl pants and accept!



    Jenn

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited May 2012

    Darn, our big girl pants are REALLY BIG by now, aren't they???

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited May 2012

    Yep. These big girl pants are a bit stretched out from having to put them on so much lately...



    Jenn

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited May 2012

    Hi Denise

     I  did not get the tatts.  I am 99% sure I will not do the rads with these lungs ( bad enough I must take hormones with these bones!)  I have known 4 people  quite well who had BC .  All of them did very well on tx.  It never occurred to me this had anything to do with the fact they began it all in pretty good shape!

    Ah, whats a girl to do!

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited May 2012

    Oh dear purple... When will you find out if they think you'll be OK, or not, for the rads?



    I am due one last Taxol/Herceptin weekly infusion this Friday and then planning CT etc for rads next Tuesday. Due to breathlessness I went and had a CT today and it turns out I have pneumonitis! I gather my MO is very surprised as she has not had anyone getting it from Taxol. I saw the nurse practitioner today and got a script for prednisone and have an appointment with my MO tomorrow morning since I gather they now won't want me to have the last Taxol.



    Since rads can cause pneumonitis I am not sure what is going to happen with timing of those. Guess I'll find out tomorrow...



    I am only just 47yrs and started this whole process in such good health! Hoping like heck that this does not cause permanent damage to my lungs. Stupid cancer...

  • MiniMacsMom
    MiniMacsMom Member Posts: 595
    edited May 2012

    So the ro nurse answered my question. I will have 25 treatment for a total of 50 units and 5-8 boosts for a total of 10-16 units. I guess you could say there was an error in the lack of units on my clinical note!

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited May 2012

    Glad you got a good explanation MiniMacsMom :-)



    I've got steroids (prednisone) to try and clear this pneumonitis and my last Taxol has been cancelled for this Friday although I will still get Herceptin.



    My MO was going to message my RO to let her know so my planning session next Tuesday should be interesting. Since rads can also cause pneumonitis and I've already got it I'm not sure what she will do. Pneumonitis can cause permanent lung damage and I don't want to come out of this permanently on oxygen or worse...



    Jenn

  • lmlola59
    lmlola59 Member Posts: 146
    edited May 2012

    Jenn128 so sorry to hear about the pneumontis but so glad it has been diagnosed and getting treated.This is somethingI never knew could be caused by rads so I am going to keep an eye on this. Please keep us posted on what your treatments will be now. Is it a constant breathlessness or only noticeable when you get physical?

    MinimacsMom Glad you have received an answer seems like a normal outcome.

  • Nel138281
    Nel138281 Member Posts: 2,124
    edited May 2012

    Hi All,

    Just came from my mapping session.  Went fine.  First session is on Tuesday 6/5.   MT RO is already going to be upset with me, I willl be away for 3 days in the middle of treatment.  He already does not have much of  a sense of humor. A trip i could not avoid , my son is going to meet his birth parents.  Even if he is 18, I am going with him and due to his work schedule this is the best time.  Very emotional today, but Rads, stuff with my son just life .  All contributing! 

    Be well

    Gentle day

    Nel 

  • Neeners815
    Neeners815 Member Posts: 358
    edited May 2012

    Hi everyone - I hope it's OK for me to jump on this thread (I'm also on the May thread and will be on the July thread - crikey!).  I just had my mapping today, as well.  My first session is Monday 6/4.  I got two tats - one slightly to the side of the 'good' boob (righty is my problem).  I don't understand people who get chest tattoos - that one in the middle hurt like a ding dong!  The other one was actually on the side of the boob and I barely felt it.  I have 30 treatments coming up.  My appointments are at 8:00 a.m. every morning (eek, but had to get it out of the way before work).

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited May 2012

    Welcome Neeners815!! Good luck with your first session. Let us know how it goes.

  • mimikitty
    mimikitty Member Posts: 54
    edited May 2012

    Hi,

    I'm scheduled to start radiation on 6/4.  I qualified for the Canadian protocol which I thought was just 42.6 GY.  However, I was disappointed to learn today they will give me a total of 50.5 GY including 3 boosts at the end of treatment.  I've been on a dire search to minimize the amount of radiation to my body but so far this is the lowest I could find.  I'm concerned that they plan to give me it in fractions of 2.7 GY per day, because I landed on a research study that says anymore than 2 GY per day to left side breast can increase risk of heart disease (http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/94/15/1143.full).  Though the risk it's small, I still don't want ANY risk.

    Anyway, I've been waivering on whether or not to go through with radiation treatments for a long time now.  As soon as I decide I'll do it, I happen to find yet another study or something on the internet that convinces me otherwise.  My health is excellent and I don't to become permantantly ill from these treatments.  Anyways, not much of an intro, but that's where I am in this.  Big headache from all the thinking and learning I've been doing since I was diagnosed!!

  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited May 2012

    I am guessing I will beginning radiation towards the end of June.  I have a large hematoma that is taking it's time healing.  
    I guess it's the fear of the unknown and "radiation" that has me nervous.  On the otherhand, given the odds of not doing and having a lumpectomy....I will be brave!  I can beat this! 
  • mckenna
    mckenna Member Posts: 413
    edited May 2012

    just checking in with everyone from the may thread.  i will be half way done after tomorrow and the skin under my boob is a little pink and feels different but no break down or pain.  now lets hope this continues and is the same for you all as well.  i am also not feeling much fatigue.  there is hope :)

    belinda: i had/have a hematoma/edema on the inner part of my breast (the opposite side of the lumpectomy site), my bs cleared me to start rads with it and while it seemed to get worse at first now the RO has me on 4 alieve a day and that really seems to help and i try to lay down for 45 mintues of my lunch hour because that releives some of the pressure from gravity.

    Nel: i am an adoptive parent also.  my kids are 7 & 11.  what an exciting, emotional, stressful and beautiful time for you and your son.  good luck.

  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited May 2012

    mckenna:  Thanks for the info on your hematoma.  I go back to surgeon tomorrow for a check on it and will ask about it.  I feel like I have an implant in there it's so swollen.  Being doing warm compresses and it's slowly getting better (I think).  

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited May 2012

    mimikitty - you are not alone in being apprehensive about the rads. I'm very "not happy" about them due to having a higher risk than most for long term SEs based on a prior medical history (long story, think I may have put it up here already). I also now have pneumonitis from the chemo and that will also put me at higher risk of getting it again from the rads - and causing long term damage to my lungs.



    Having said all of that, the stats still fall on rads being more beneficial than risky for me (just). The rads make an unarguably big difference in recurrence rates...



    Nice to see our group growing (but hate that there even has to BE a group!). Hoping we can all help each other through this with some laughter along the way :-)



    Jenn

  • mimikitty
    mimikitty Member Posts: 54
    edited May 2012

    Hi Jenn,

    Thanks and I'm sorry to hear about the pnuemonitis.  I just finished reading this study somone posted in another discussion in this forum.  It specifically mentions that flax seeds can help with that and other side effects of radiation.

    http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/news/News_Releases/2011/08/ancient-crop/ 

  • Lagata1276
    Lagata1276 Member Posts: 85
    edited June 2012

    I am joining this thread too, with a caveat. I met with the 2nd RO today as this is the one my MO recommended vs my BS' referral. Although I did some research, this doc is a young buck and knew so much more than the first RO I met who was A LOT older. He gave me every single option of radiation that I asked him about and the pros and cons. He even gave me the option of referring me to the only RO in the US who does a special technique to preserve implants, but I declined since he was in AZ. After almost 2 hours, I decided to go with the traditional treatment with my buck!

    Little bump in the road before I can schedule my sim. I had an MRI yesterday that my MO ordered (an awful experience in itself) that showed something suspicious on my unaffected breast!! So I have to get an ultrasound tomorrow. If everything is okay, I will begin rads 2nd week in June. So I hope I am back on this thread in June!!

    Hi Neeners!!

  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited June 2012

    Laga1276  - I had my MRI before surgery and the same thing happened to me.  However, the thing in my unaffected breast ended up being a fibroadenoma and benign.  The MRI picks up lots of false positive stuff too.  Are they doing a biopsy on it?

  • rose41
    rose41 Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2012

    Hi, I'm joining too!  I started Rads a few weeks ago and will finish at the end of June.  So far so good.  I am a little tired, but this might be becasue I'm getting up early to make my Rads appt before work.  My skin is starting to turn pink, but no discomfort to report at this time.

  • Lagata1276
    Lagata1276 Member Posts: 85
    edited June 2012

    Belinda, I just got back from my ultrasound and yes, they decided I needed a biopsy. So I had another new experience today to add to my list!! I decided to take the rest of the day off and not go to work. I hope mine is benign like yours was.

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