High Aspartame use and BC

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  • madpeacock
    madpeacock Member Posts: 369
    edited February 2012

    I never drank sodas until high school and then started with diet drinks (father was going through cancer and mom and I were doing a lot of nervous eating and needed to cut some calories). This was in the late 70s. I drank Tab and then Diet Coke EVERY day, sometimes multiples, until last March when I quit cold turkey on the recommendation of my naturopath.  I started reading about the chemical composition of the artificial sweeteners and their effects on the body and it completely creeped me out. I had no idea! 

    Also used birth control for 20+ years and have been off for ~4 years or so.

    What caused my cancer? Who knows... 

  • christina0001
    christina0001 Member Posts: 1,491
    edited February 2012

    I seldom drink any artificial sweeteners. Occasionally (like, maybe a couple times a week in the summer) I wil drink Crystal Lite lemonade, but that's it.

    I am certainly not a doctor, but if artificial sweeteners by themselves caused cancer, there would be a lot more people with cancer. I wouldn't beat myself up over it if you use them...having said that, I threw all my Crystal Lite away, just to be safe.

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 834
    edited February 2012

    I truly believe it is that and so much more...

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2012

    I still think it is  many things that sets the stage.

  • Booboo2
    Booboo2 Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2012

    Did Tab contain aspartame?  I thought it contained calcium or sodium cyclamate, both of which were banned years ago.  If aspartame is proven to be harmful, it may soon follow them into obscurity. Aspartame came into use as a substitute for the banned cyclamates.

    I drink a lot of diet sodas.  Neither my doctor or my dentist believe that I have been harmed by them. I guess anything should be done in moderation.  Certainly I would prefer to use artificial sweeteners than end up fat as a pig and with no teeth from eating too much sugar.

  • momof2greatkids
    momof2greatkids Member Posts: 56
    edited February 2012

    I was dx'd at 50, and to the best of knowledge, no artificial sweetener has ever passed my lips.

  • Wendyspet
    Wendyspet Member Posts: 246
    edited February 2012

    I HATED diet soda, and never drank it.  I stopped drinking soda totally and haven't had one since about 2004.  I was diagnosed in 2011.

  • 7of9
    7of9 Member Posts: 833
    edited February 2012

    I did 4 - 6 packets of Equal in my tea (told to switch to decaf for dense breasts 5 years ago) but kept on the Equal until trying to conceive and haven't had much since. But from 20 - 36...oh yea, every day. Not a pop drinker though because it bothers my colitis.

  • wildrumara
    wildrumara Member Posts: 450
    edited February 2012

    Just came across this post.   I have always told people....My only "vice" is diet soda.  I've been drinking it since I was in junior high (30 years ago) ,at least one can a day.  In addition, I've used Splenda and/or Equal for years.   I've always said to people that this  can't be good for me....it has to be doing something to my body.......and sure enough, August 2011 I was diagnosed with IDC.  Now, I don't blame the diet soda on my cancer, as I do have a strong family history, but it certainly could have contributed.  I miss the soda so much and have switched to iced tea, with one packet of sugar, but today I couldn't stand it and had a Diet Coke.  It tasted so good!   Artificial sweeteners are the one thing I've given up since my diagnosis.....I'n slowly working my way to some organic fruits and veggies.  I don't know ladies....it's a crap shoot.......I hate to say it, but that's what I think, unfortunately! 

  • jenlee
    jenlee Member Posts: 504
    edited March 2012

    Tons of articifial sweetener!!!!  Diet soda when younger, then years & years of several tea and coffee drinks every day, with equal & spenda, plus most days an afternoon diet Snapple.  After surgery for SNB & port, I knew I'd be resting for a few days and went through caffeine withdrawl.  Now I drink water though I do miss the routine of the tea or coffee in the morning.  Though with chemopause, I'm probably better off without the hot beverage in the morning.

  • Makratz
    Makratz Member Posts: 12,678
    edited March 2012

    Can't believe it but I finally gave up Diet Pepsi about a month and a half ago.  My new addiction is Crystal Light energy.  That's how I'm getting my caffeine now.  I wonder if it's any better than diet pepsi, since it has artificial sweeteners in it too.  I do use Crystal Light Pure on most days, but when I need caffeine, I use the energy.  Anyone know how much artificial sweeteners are in Crystal light versus diet soda?

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited March 2012

    HATE artificial sweeteners!

    Aspartame (Nutrasweet, Equal) gives me migraines and overall itchies.

    Sucralose (Splenda) is tolerable in small doses, but I try to stay away from it. (Now I see that Equal has a new product made with sucralose and saccharine!!! Yell  )

    Other kinds of sweeteners (honey, fructose, agave syrup) are still sugars and affect the body in the same way, so if you're trying to lose weight, even the natural stuff is the same as pouring on the granulated white sugar.

    The only difference is that there are some studies that agave syrup does not cause the immediate spike in blood sugar as do the other "natural" sweeteners.

    I took BC pills my whole life, never had kids, always hated to exercise, took HRT for more than ten years after peri-menopause, my mom had BC, I've been overweight for most of my life, but I think the real reason I got BC is because I carry my purse on my left shoulder. Undecided

    I guess for me, that makes just as much sense as trying to find out what I did to myself to "cause" this disease. Sometimes $#it just happens.

  • pickle
    pickle Member Posts: 1,409
    edited March 2012

    I have never had aspartame or other artificial stuff

    I don't drink soda..never did

    I don't like sweets or sugar. I even find some fruits too sweet for me

    I drink coffee, water, fresh orange juice (small amounts), red wine, homemade smoothies

    I was on BIrth Control until I was 29. Then had a hysterectomy. Still have my ovaries



    Breast Cancer...IMHO is a crapshoot

    I will never know why I got it.

  • greenfrog
    greenfrog Member Posts: 269
    edited March 2012

    Women have been dying of breast cancer since the dawn of time. Long long before aspartame was ever invented.

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited April 2012
    Ok - My mom is 90 years old this year - drank diet sodas for at least 45 years, that I know of, both her sisters have had breast cancer and never had diet sodas... and then there is me - ladies, I don't think you know what addicted to diet soda is - I have been working for almost a year to lower my caffiene - diet coke addition (heavy aspartame). I have gone from @ 15 cans of soda a day - to 5 cans on a good day... and Yes I had Breast cancer.. Yesterday was my 1 year anniversary for being Cancer-Free. I have come to realize - the "what-if this caused my cancer" doesn't help much in taking each step, each day.. Do your best to improve what you eat - I think that's the best we can do... Personally, I got too hung up on what caused me to get it (anti-depressants, artificial sweetners, where I lived, etc..) Be aware, but don't get caught up like I did. 
  • peggy_j
    peggy_j Member Posts: 1,700
    edited May 2012
    It's not aspartame, but this article lists other suspected hazards with soda and they claim (in this link) that two of the colorings in cola products can cause cancer in animals. (another one of their factoids says that soda cans, like most cans, contain BPA, which has been linked to hormone disruption) Just an FYI in case anyone wants extra motivation to kick the soda habit. I used to drink many cans of diet soda a day. I quit before I was Dx'd with BC (but was drinking it several years before; they say it can take 8-10 yrs for BC to be detected. So I may have been drinking diet soda when that first breast cell mutated. who knows?) I did notice that when I quit diet soda I felt much better without the post-aspartame fuzzy-heady feeling.
     
  • nsmith36
    nsmith36 Member Posts: 18
    edited May 2012

    Hi there. Yes, I used aspertame all thru the 80s and 90's and most of the 00's. Thats very interesting. I had triple negative IDC in 2007 and am happy to be here. 

  • longislandmom
    longislandmom Member Posts: 248
    edited May 2012

    i am allergic to Aspartame and never use it.  i got migraines from it when it first came on the market in 1984ish...

    But whether or not it is connected to BC..it is definitely lousy.  personally, i have always wondered if it is connected to the huge spike in autism.  it seems to affect many people like myself neurologically.

  • bluepearl
    bluepearl Member Posts: 961
    edited May 2012

    I haven't gone through all the posts but Splenda has one molecule of sugar replaced by one of chlorine so your body doesn't recognize it as sugar and passes it through. That chlorine is thousands of times less than that ingested by chlorinated water. Aspartame breaks down into formaldehyde but the body does this naturally with many other types of food...and at much higher concentrations than diet soda would ever create. Healthfood advocates often use this type of information as scare tactics. Sugar, natural and in any other form, and Vitamin C in large quantities, cancer cells LOVE. Obesity is another factor that is a risk for cancer. Smoking and drinking. But these things get pushed aside more in favor of the next chemical du jour to pounce upon. That is not to say that there are not environmental factors that come into play but it would be better to stray away from the health food/naturalpath people and deal with evidence based science. Diabetes is another contributor to cancer and other serious health problems and Splenda is a far better solution to eating a bowl full of berries if you NEED them sweetened, than sugar is. It is best to ween yourself from the "sweet" bug no matter what and enjoy food in its natural state because sweet, even artificial, stimulates insulin and you DON'T want that!!!

  • bluepearl
    bluepearl Member Posts: 961
    edited May 2012

    BTW, NO dietary links have ever been scientifically proven linked to autism and except for obesity, to cancer either. The high Vit C and A were pills (supplements) only; not oranges and carrots. Well, one diet item has been linked....alcohol use (more than one per day for women).

  • bluepearl
    bluepearl Member Posts: 961
    edited May 2012

    GMaFoley....right on!

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited June 2012

    I too was a huge user of aspartame and I had cervical precancer which I was healed from but now have dcis. I always thought sweeteners were a factor to multiple health issues...

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited June 2012

    Well, I'm probably the only American that actually disdains soda. Never had a taste for it, it always tasted "salty" to me and left me thirsty. Needless to say, I don't drink soda at all, regular or diet, And....I got BC.

  • Layla2525
    Layla2525 Member Posts: 827
    edited June 2012

    Lago is right the aspartane and phosphoric acid in the soda is not really good for you or your bones. I had to start drinking La Croix which is flavored seltzer water to get off soda,it has no calories or sugar or salt and is an acquired taste but its fizzy,then I heard carbonated water is not good for me,good grief!

    I used to drink diet Pepsi and have a snickers bar every day at work for almost 5 yrs and drinking alchohol on weekends and eating charred barbq meat. I also worked at a disco back in the day and breathed a lot of second hand smoke and even smoked myself for a few yrs. Sure all that and being up late every night was a contributing factor to an unhealthy lifestyle that lead me down the road to ruin.

    I got NuStevia which comes in small packets like sugar,its stevia,an all natural sweetener from a Peruvian plant. I use a pkt on my oatmeal in the morning,taste just like sugar unless you put 3pkts then it gets bitter. Anyone tried stevia???

  • Makratz
    Makratz Member Posts: 12,678
    edited June 2012

    I drink Crystal Light Pure made with Truvia, from the Stevia plant.  I love it!

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited June 2012

    I am 62 - was diagnosed at 60.  From age 30 to 40 I drank a LOT of diet soda.  I won't even say how much, it's too embarrassing. 

    I tried stevia but found that I'm allergic to it.

    In regards to birth control - one of my doctors said that taking them for a minimum of 5 years helped reduce BC...  It sounded crazy to me even when she said it, and I haven't found anything that has said the same - has anyone else?

  • dcis2012153346
    dcis2012153346 Member Posts: 3
    edited October 2012

    Hi all! I am 55, the youngest of 4 sisters. I have been trying to compare what I eat and what my sisters eat and trying to see if there was something I ate that might have precipitated my diagnosis. The only thing that I believe is different from the things they eat and myself is related to Aspartame. I have been eating a lot of sugar free items, like yogurt, crystal light tea etc, etc and just started to think that it might be related to my BC diagnosis.

     Its crazy but I have been trying to figure this out within this past week and I came to the conclusion that since we dont have BC in the family and we eat/drink the same things (w/the exception of what I mentioned above) do the same things, go to the same places, etc etc. It has to be something that I have in my diet that has contributed to it and for my peace of mind even if that is not it, I am throwing away everything that contains ASPARTAME.

    I was having everything sugar free because of my mother's diabetes (she's 88). Even if I go back to having the regular sugar (in moderation) that's what I am going to do, as well as keep exercising and trying to live a "healthy lifestyle", whatever that means because at 11:00 am we are told that one thing is good for us and 10 minutes later we are told that "its the worst thing we can eat".  Just my 2 cents! Cool

  • Juliajulia48
    Juliajulia48 Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2014

    My mother died at 40 from breast cancer. She drank almost a 2 litre of diet coke a day. I've always thought there was a link personally. However, she did smoke. But otherwise she was a very healthy eater and never drank alcohol.

  • Juliajulia48
    Juliajulia48 Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2014

    Come t think of it, she drank Crystal Light all the time too.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited January 2014

    The Coming to Terms with Sugar Substitutes column by Dr. Marisa Weiss (founder of Breastcancer.org), discusses sugar alternatives, and also tips for getting away from both sugars and their substitutes. Check it out on the main Breastcancer.org site, and leave your comments here, or among the comments there.

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