March 2012 chemo

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  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2012

    Indigo mine do remind me of bruises. But I also noticed a slightly darker line across the very tops (where still attached and the tips).  I'm also having trouble using them to open anything, they feel like they might pull away or something. Don't really know how to explain it.  But I haven't started Taxol, just finished the A/C.  Taxol starts tomorrow.  I can't loose my nails, I'd be completely helpless. 

  • MichelleMassey
    MichelleMassey Member Posts: 213
    edited May 2012

    Indigo-mine started on AC. MO says its a common SE from chemo.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Hmmmm.... now I wonder if those really are bruises or not!  They don't hurt, though.

    Lostinmo, I miss my bionic acrylic nails as tools, too, so I know what you mean!  I am keeping the shellac on mine.  It is almost as good as acrylic but doesn't damage your nails, and has really helped to protect them.  BTW, if your nails are already hurting or showing signs of lifting, I'm not sure I'd do the shellac, because you have to have it put on in a salon.  I did it because my salon didn't use any tools that had not been autoclaved or brand new out of the package, and I didn't let them clip my cuticles or do anything that might have made me bleed because of the chance of infection.  I've just had her put on a natural clear color.  I want to go again next week for another mani.  

    I did decide to do my own toes, though; while my nail tech is really great, I'm just not sure about putting my feet in the water and because my nails tend to grow in, even if they don't mean to cut me I'm scared that they might while they're digging around.  It kind of sucks, though; other than missing the pampering, I can't see as well even with my new no-line bifocals - and I didn't do as good a job as they do getting the polish on neatly.  But the finished product looks OK, and I'm saving some money....

  • TrailGirl
    TrailGirl Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2012

    Hi folks. I just found this forum and it's refreshing to read real experiences where people are having SE's and discussing them. All I've been reading about previously were people still going to the gym and work and just having a few minor discomforts, which has not been my experience at all.



    So far I've had 4 treatments of A/C and 1 of Taxol, with 3 more to go. Then surgery, mod/rad mastectomy of left breast and lymph node, probably in July. Then radiation after that.



    Chemo has been devastating to me and Kelli, my partner of 16 years. My new measurement of a "good" day, is a 3 on a scale of 1-10. Taxol is not any better than A/C either.



    Next Taxol is on Tuesday with that horrific Nuelasta to follow, so I plan to covet the Vicodin from Thursday to the next Tuesday.



    I humbly join you in your fight and welcome you to mine!

    Kim
  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited May 2012

    Hi Trailgirl: welcome to the March ladies... Yes chemo can totally suck. My ride has been a total roller coaster too, and frankly if I couldn't have vented a bit (a lot) here I may have exploded...I think for a lot of people it really does take over, change everything, shrink your world, yup...we do hear of people who carry on, some amazing ladies here on this thread are still managing to get to work...I cannot imagine it at all. I thought I would be able to but no way, no energy, no drive, no brain, nobody calling anyway! (I am a freelance musician)

    Anyway all this to say welcome, you are in good company here, you'll hear it all!!

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    Some how this thread was removed from my favorites!  Hope everyone is doing ok!

    Long ass day for me, Dad had surgery turned out he needed a valve and a double bypass.  He is in ICU and will be through the weekend.  Wasn't awake when we finally got to see him (they have him sedated) so hopefully he will be awake in the morning when we go.  He was one sick puppy!  It was so worth postponing my treatment till Tuesday so I could be there for him and my family.  He has a long road ahead to heal but feeling pretty postiive.

    Super tired with very little sleep so heading to bed.

    Hope everyone had a great evening! 

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Kim, glad your dad is through his surgery.

  • Januaryice
    Januaryice Member Posts: 120
    edited May 2012

    FYI - yesterday first first day in the chair for Taxol and all went well . It was a very long day as you all know from 8:00 AM to 3 PM but I was able to sleep some during it. All the meds knocked me out. Feeling pretty good this AM just a slight backache but that probably from old age. Of course still left over steroids so I'm staying cautious waiting for the bad SE's to hit. I'll keep you all updated.

    Welcome Trailgirl! This thread has been a lifesaver for me. This group really understands what you are going though and will offer lots of info, advice, and plenty of love and understanding. I prayer your journey gets easier.

    Kim- payers for your dad's recovery! You're a great daughter.

    Regards to all my fellow sisters and hope all are having a great day!!!!

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2012

    Januaryice-glad your first Taxol went well.  Hope the SE's stay minimal.  Your day sounds as long as mine.  I'm getting ready to head for my 1st Taxol in a few.

    Kim- praying for a speedy recovery for your Dad.

    Trailgirl-welcome!  I'd be really lost without these guys.

    Indigo- I'm not good at doing my nails, never polish them it doesn't stay on. But if they get darker I might start.

    Everyone have a good Friday! 

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited May 2012

    Trailgirl

    Welcome.  This is a great place to vent because we've all been there and nothing is TMI.  I know for sure if I didn't have this and the February thread I regularly post to and had to go it alone I would have been freaking out!  At least when others are experiencing things along the same lines you feel alot more "normal".  If I had just had friends and family to rely on I would have been lost and alot more scared.

    I can't say that you'll have an easier or worse time on Taxol vs Adriamycin (spelling), my regimen was Taxotere-Cytoxen-Herceptin.  I just know that first week after TX was the worst, then things improved over the next 2 when it was time for the next.  I'm 4 weeks PFC and am feeling more my old self, say 90% anyway.  Hang in there!

    onvacation

    Happy to hear your Dad did well with surgery.  What a day for  you though yesterday.  I know how exhausting it can be with a parent in hospital without going through chemo.  Try to get all the rest you can though, you still need to look after yourself.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    My mom got up at 5 so I did too.  She is a bit confused and very scared about my dad.  Heading to the first round of visiting hours at the ICU, good thing I live pretty close!  I feel good, amazing what you can do what you have to!  Will try and get rest in between visiting.  I've been eating crap, but that is ok, not going to worry about it.  Had my green smoothie this morning so at least starting the day out well.

    Hope everyone who has or had treatment recently is doing well!

  • lanagraves
    lanagraves Member Posts: 596
    edited May 2012

    Kim: Hope your dad recovers quickly.

    Welcome trailgirl! This is my favorite thread. The ladies on here are wonderful. I'm one of those who still drags my achy, exhausted butt to work most days, but some days only because it's my source of health insurance. And besides, I love what I do and the people I work with, so it's a nice place to be - doesn't feel like "work". But there are a lot of days where it's all I can do to get here and sit at my desk. Luckily, my employers and coworkers have been unbelievably supportive. They say, come to work when I feel like it and, when I don't, stay in bed - and that my job will be here when this is over. So I truly couldn't ask for better.

    So I'm week out from my first Taxol. The bone and joint pain was excruciating for a couple of days and then I was just really achy for a couple more. Almost back to normal now. No neuropathy or nail issues so far. I check my brows/lashes at least ten times a day and I think they're thinning a bit - but I'm obsessed about it, so it may just be my imagination. No regrowth on my head yet, but I still have quite a lot of stubble after AC. It's enough that I actually wonder how much would have been left if I had not shaved it when it started to come out in clumps.

    Anyway, on to brighter thoughts. The family and I are headed out of town this afternoon for a couple of days. Nothing major, kind of low key - just need a change of scenery. And our kids are accustomed to traveling a lot. That's kind of our thing - the whole family loves to travel, so we are constantly planning our next trip. But this year, not so much because I'm missing so much work with treatments, appointments, etc.; besides, most of the time I wouldn't feel like doing much after we got where we were going anyway. So I'm planning several weekend trips to nearby places so the kids still feel like they're going somewhere. So yay, I'm excited and ready to get on the road. But 5:00 seems like a long way from now.

  • CAYH
    CAYH Member Posts: 99
    edited May 2012

    Hello Ladies,

    Wanted to let you all know that after researching my brains out, I decided to opt out of Taxol.  Instead of having my first tx yesterday, I had my PICC line removed instead!  I truly feel in my case, this is the very best option for me.  I have never been sure about chemo from the start...but everything happened so very quickly after diagnosis & surgery there was not enough time to weigh all options.

    I intend to change the climate of my body through food as medicine/supplements to prevent a recurrence & treat the cause rather than relying on the chemo drugs & risking permanent side effects.  Being triple negative, there are no long term drug therapies to follow, either - of which I must admit I am actually relieved.  

    I had 2 very long discussions with my onc 2 weeks apart & with her blessing (I can always opt back in she reminded me) I will not have to see her again for 6 months.  There are no tests required, not even another MUGA scan unless I have problems.  The only followup will be clinical exams since I have had 2 mx, so I'm pretty much on my own anyways!

    I know I have my work cut out for me because it *is* a whole lot of work to eat cleanly & I figure if I can stick to my regimens 90% of the time, I won't have to become a fanatic about anything.  I began juicing 2 weeks back (kale, spinach, cuke, celery, sweet pepper, lemon, lime, ginger root, carrot, apple, cilantro & dill) & that is now either lunch or breakfast & I am loving it!  I intend to eat more raw than cooked & will give up red meat/poultry for the forseeable future.  Alaskan salmon & organic eggs will still be amongst my favs.  My kefir smoothies will continue to keep my gut healthy.  Lots of other stuff to work on, but this will be my attempt to rebuild & strengthen my immune system rather than tearing it down & enabling it to do what it's supposed to be doing.  I am also going to start taking Essiac tea.

    I wish you all well with your tx & regaining your good health.  Will probably lurk from time to time, but just want to thank you all for sharing your experiences & making it all easier to deal with- you're a great group!

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited May 2012

    CAYH: wow, your clean immune-boosting eating is inspirational, chemo or no chemo! It must feel good to make a decision like this that you feel so right about...I would love to know more about how you got to this decision, but of course you don't need to share that with me... or if you want you could pm me. It's true that the journey from diagnosis to starting treatment is super fast, and fraught with emotion or shock, and there is no time to become an expert on our own personal situation...

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited May 2012

    CAYH

    It has been a pleasure here as well.  You've made peace with your decision I'm sure after careful thought and consideration and only you can do that.  Like your doctor said, if you have a change of heart, you can try again.  You've already done some pretty hard TX.

    I have to say that juicing combo sounds quite yummy and I may refer back to it sometime.  Talk about vitamin and mineral packed, no way anyone would get as much goodness in their diet alone any other way I think.

    Take care and be healthy!!!

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    CAYH - love juicing myself!  Glad you found a plan that works for you!  Your eating plan seems excellent!  

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2012
    This had to be the longest day in history!  Arrived at 10am and didn't get out of there till 5:40 pm.  The center isn't open Mon. so I guess they were bringing them in today or tues.  But it's takes 4hrs to do the premeds and taxol drips.  At least there is only 3 more to go.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2012

    Greetings 2012 groupies from a 2011 lounge lizard. Glad to see you all seem to be doing well.



    A couple of notes....nails...ice them during chemo if you can. Best tip I got from another thread is to get insulated lunch bags that will fit your feet and your hands. I put frozen peas in and then my feet (and hands last) and zipped them up.I was amazed at how well it worked. My nails did great until the last couple months of herceptin, and I even kept them iced for that.



    I did shellac until February and it was fine but then they started breaking low, peeling, are very flexible and they used to be tender. That seems to be getting better. To get shellac off, you have to soak in acetone, which is hard on the nails. Because of the tenderness of my nails, getting the shellac off became painful. It felt good when it was on though. They were stronger. I did pedicures throughout. Felt so good. They did not cut cuticles though.



    CAYH....I juiced throughout chemo, before I realized I wasnt really supposed to be doing raw fruits and veggies. One oncology nurse about had a coronary when she heard. Then my onc told her it was fine. He is of the belief based on some new studies, I guess, that there is not a lot of factual basis for avoiding it. He only recommends a neutrogenic diet to his lymphoma patients. My counts never dropped out of normal range so maybe it helped. I used a lot of the same ingredients you did, but would add fruit, whatever I had...apple, blueberries, mango, strawberries. It was one of the things that tasted good. In fact, raw stuff and cold food tasted best to me. Hot food was unappealing.



    Good luck to everyone! I will check in every so often, or you can pm if you have any questions.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Hi Fluffqueen!  I have thought about the acetone - so far it isn't a problem. but I'm only doing the manicures maybe once every 3 weeks to a month and keeping my nail tips really short.  I did notice a couple of splits in two of my nails so I hope I can keep up the shellac, at least, until/unless my nails get more sensitive after I start the Taxotere.  they are still thin enough now from having worn acrylics so long that until they grow out, they'll break, so if I didn't have the shellac on them, they'd be down to the quicks.  I do plan to ice them.

    Thanks for your input!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2012

    Indigo...my manicurist suggested doing a french shellac, so I did, it looked great. I kept mine short also, although they are way shorter now than they were.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    Good morning ladies!  Hope everyone is enjoying thier holiday weekend with minimal SE!  Ya'll have some fun for me!  I am still running back and forth to ICU and taking care of my mom, but my brother and sister are really helping out a lot, so I am very thankful!

    Get out there and make it a great day!

    Cheers! 

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    Morning all - I am so far behind I won't even attempt to catch up except to say that I am glad your dad is doing ok Kim.

    Spent the last 3 days in bed - literally in the bed except for bathroom breaks.  Couldn't get comfortable anywhere else, even on the couch...nausea seemed worse this time and of course my allover Neulasta soreness.  Realized about halfway through that I didn't take the Claritin this time but it wasn't any worse than it ever has been so for me, I don't know that it helps all that much.  

    I have managed to drag myself to the couch today.  We are supposed to go on this alleged vacation a week from Sunday and I have made no definite plans.  Some of that was intentional - I didn't want to make reservations and have things all fall through.  But we need to have a general idea of what we are going to do.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    kltb - so sorry you were in bed for 3 days - hope you feel better soon!  Hope you get to go on vacation! 

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2012

    ktlb-hope your feeling better so you can go on vacation!

    I hope everyone is enjoying the holiday weekend.

    Had my first Taxol on Friday and today I'm having small stabbing pains in my tumor area.  Picturing the taxol with little swords taking out the cancer cells.

    Kim -hope your Dad is still doing good and that your siblings are helping out.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Hi lostinmo! I peeked at the blog; um, so dumb question, is that you and your family? And if so and you pass through Wall again, have a doughnut and an Indian taco on me!

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2012

    Indigo-that's us alright! We do plan on getting back up there at some point.  Doughnuts I want one so bad.  I've been craving them for weeks now. LOL

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Lol - my colleague and I passed thru Wall twice on different business trips to Pierre. We walked out of there with fresh cake doughnuts that we ate on the spot plus souvenirs for family. I had no idea what to get my grown sons or DH - and then came across the pocket knives with their names on them - they loved them and used them! But get this: at the airport in Rapid City it suddenly occurred to me that since I had not packed the knives in my suitcase before I checked it, that security would confiscate them. So I packed them inside the T-shirts we got at Mount Rushmore and stuffed it all in my carryon. Would you believe they didn't even question it? Although they did question the lipgloss I had in my purse.



    As for the Indian tacos (if someone reading this has never eaten one, they are the usual taco fillings on top of Indian fry bread - totally unhealthy and yummy), my coworker really wanted one badly on our first trip. We were there in November and there were few tourists - just hunters. He ordered a taco and the waitress apologized and said that they couldn't make one because they put away all their steam tables during off season. So he had to wait until we went back the following June!



    Hoping you get on the other side of tx and can hit the road. Hugs!!!!

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2012

    Indigo- lol about the lipgloss.  We had pizza at Wall and I have to admit it was good pizza.  We had Indian tacos down in the park and they had buffalo meat in them.  They were good, but they weren't quite spicy enough for me. Now I am getting hungry.  

    I am so ready to get going again.  Friday I was asking the MO are your sure I still have to go through this and this.  He said yes Frown .  Hopefully by late fall.  If Missouri bugs don't get me first.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    I know what you mean about Missouri bugs! The Junebugs are the worst -at least they don't bite.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    Good morning ladies!  Happy Memorial Day!  

    Another HOT Houston day, summer is here for sure!  

    Hope everyone has a wonderful day with minimal SE!

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