May 2012 radiation
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mopsy, i am so sorry, that sucks. is your skin red or breaking down? hope these se's don't intesify for you.
i had bought tom's deoderant, luckily only had to use it once it was too sticky. my ro said i could use whatever deoderant i was using so i am sticking with my secret
i will look into the barely there, right now i am wearing the front close sports bras i bought for when i had my surgery. they seem to be working at the moment.
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Joanne_53 - I remembered you said you were from the April/May Rads thread, but I'd say ending this month gives you dual citizenship! Thanks for the tip about the netherworld under my breast. I'll ask the nurse when I'm there this morning.
schatzi14 - My LE therapist loaned my a really boring sleeve, flesh-toned, until my custom pink one comes in next week. Problem was the top kept rolling down and forming a tourniquet, so on Tuesday she offered another one. This one's from www.LympheDivas.com (check them out!) - they make really fun printed sleeves. Problem is theirs are all too long for my arm, or so the therapist thought. So the loaner looks like tattoos all up and down my arm (http://store.lymphedivas.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=3475&idcategory=46). Remember, I'm 62 years old! I have really been getting the looks - driving, grocery store, people talk to me but they're looking at my arm, trying to figure it out. And I just watch them and smile. So last night I'm in line at the liquor store (resupplying the gin, doncha know!) and from behind me I hear, "Hey, nice tats!" in this really gravelly voice. I turn around and there's this sketchy overweight 50-yo guy, wearing a too-tight t-shirt that says "Pull my finger." (Really??). I just said, "Thanks! I like them too," and turned back around. Let 'im be impressed, right?
On the LE discouragement note, check out the thread, "Kicking LE's Butt! Exercise & Self-Care Log." Most of them are talking way over my head about things I haven't learned about yet, but their mood is really motivational. It's starting to sink in that I'm stuck with this condition for life and it's not a matter of curing it, but managing the flareups, just like my asthma or someone else's adult-onset diabetes. I'm not happy about it either, but I remember when I was a little girl and my grandmother had what we lovingly called her 'elephant arm'
after her mastectomy. Now I realize it was LE, a whole lot worse than mine! That's motivation for me.
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Spokanellei...My LE therapist has those "tattoo" sleeves as well. I was going to get one as a second sleeve but now I am wondering hmm. She says mine is not too long and told me the first time I had it on that it was too tight so use a glove to slide it up below the armpit. I suppose if I sat in my chair all day, it would not leave marks but that is a bit much to expect. I wore it for hours cause I was vacuuming and didn't want any more swelling. It didn't help but at least I have no pain with my LE.
Do you do the MLD before you put the sleeve on? How long does it take you?
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Spokanellei, that is so funny, i am totally imagining the guy in the pull my finger shirt and it is not pretty
glad you are finding the humor in some of this.
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Silviazara - Thank you for sharing, I thought I was going a little crazy. I too got thru chemo with the smile on my face (the best that I could) in spite of being hospitalized a couple of times. I now know that I am not alone. Good luck with everything
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ok, i don't know if i am making this up in my head or not, but my arm pit contiues to hurt (even though it does not even look like that is in the rad field) and my boob feels on fire and like Dizzy said, boob tenderness like right before i am about to start my period but 10x's worse. the other boob does not feel like this. and now i feel nauseous, not sure if that is because now i am worried i am already getting se's or not, because when i am nervous i sometimes feel like i could throw up.
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mckenna -- you are not crazy -- I think the first few times I was nauseous but that was nerves I am sure ...
you probably are getting some radiation over the armpit is as dark as my boob -- I am sure it is probably in the field ...
I had some tenderness and some pain too - the radiation is attacking the nerves -- there were a few days that it hurt and had to take something for it but now that is good and I am just dealing with the skin issues -- you will be fine !!!!
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Hello Everyone, My name is Joanne, 72 years old. Just found this forum and love it. Would it be possible to list your age. I see some of you must be very young with children. I would like to know how other ladies my age are handling their treatments.
Lumpectomy (Right) Age; 72
DX-03/7/12, IDC, 1cm, Stage 1, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/pr-
Ratiation Therapy 05/14/2012 External
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welcome joanne 2012, what is your last day of rads? looks like we both started on the same day, 5 down
i am 38, so i am considered young in the BC world.
my skin still feels and looks great, it is just the internal swelling like feeling i am getting. i think the radiation may be intensifying the edema i already have from surgery. last night was rough but this am when i woke up i feel much better, i think sitting, standing, walking all day just causes more swelling which is making the evenings rough. i am going to try to lay down durning lunch today and see if that helps. - i am 1/5 of the way done
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Hi rad(ical) May Ladies!!! I've just completed sixteen treatments, both sides, plus 5 boosts to my compromised margin tumor on one side. Here's what I found happened and what helped. Incidentally, the difference between getting rads in Canada and the US is we have a shorter course of treatment due to higher daily dosage amounts.
I am a fair skinned gal, so I didn't notice much until about the end of the second week. Slight pink tinge to skin. I used Glaxobase lotion three times daiy from the start of treatment. Nipples both sore and sensitive from week one. I purchased a nice wireless bra from the Warner collection which I wore through the whole treatment.
I continued my usual daily exercise program of 30-60 min, either a walk, hike or mountain biking. Good for the body and soul. Only had two or three evenings of fatigue about mid way through treatment, then back to usual self. In exercising I needed to be careful about movement of the underarm area, but this was much later in the treatment sessions and after.
Small dots and increasing redness appeared on my skin during the final weeks which then became intensely itchy and raised up like hives. Nipples quite sore and red, then proceeded to crack in spite of moisture routine. I got a prescriptions for 1% cortisone and flamazine for open skin on nipple area. These conditions worsened for two weeks after treatment ended before getting better. The nipples were the hardest part to endure as they were crusting and peeling in chunks with no new skin underneath to support healing. My remaining breast area was bumpy but has now settled down nicely. I continue to moisturize three times per day and everything is pretty much healed up with the exception of the red rectangle from the boost area. It's not bothersome though.
Cool bathing with the salt solution helped. This is where I placed a facecloth over the irritated area, then poured the salt solution over it while in the bathtub. A nightly Benadryl was helpful too as the itching could be intense at night
So on a fair skinned gal, I'm pretty much back to normal, as normal can be. Other than my "slight tan", you can't really tell. No hard areas and the two lumpectomy scars are fine.
A funny thing happened last week and I want to share this... After sitting on my sun deck enjoying a nice spring morning and all breast area was fully covered, I went in to have my shower... Lo and behold, both nipples and the aereola areas had turned completely black. I thought to myself - all that I've gone through and now my boobs are rotting and they will have to take them off. I freaked out and called the triage nurse at the cancer agency. They would call me back shortly, they said. Well, after fretting due to length of time the call took, I finally hopped in the shower and the black started to lessen. Turns out it was the flamazine prescription and my body was warm in the sun. Apparently a reaction with the zinc component of the prescription medication. Haha.
So, I hope this helps and gives hope that it will get better, although you may go through a rough spell. You'll come out the other side, likely no worse for wear. Hang in there ladies! -
thanks chicken, my nipple is so sore and sensitive, good to know this is common
my ro has me putting a cortizone type cream on from day one, so let's hope that works. congrats on completing rads!!! so excited for you.
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Hi Joanne...welcome to our "chat" room...I am 68 and holding.
I am done with all my treatments with just follow ups. I didn't do too well on the DD/AC, just managed 3 out of 4 and went to 12 weekly taxols that were a breeze, albeit a nuisance. The 16 rads were a non-event for me with absolutely no SEs. Along the way, SOB and coughing and wheezing showed PE in my lungs. I self injected a blood thinner for 6 months and the hematologist said it was chemo induced. I have a little neuropathy in my toes, have LE in the affected side and a seroma that continues to fill with fluid...it's harmless so I am grateful.
Wow don't I sound like a head case? For me, I am moving on and trying to get my life back as usual. I wish the same for all of you great gals.
Chickenpants...I had never heard that explanation of rads in Canada...I met so many gals in the rad waiting room that were getting 25 and 36 rads it never occurred to me that here was different.
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Chickenpants -- that was so funny (about your nipples rotting off) ... so glad it was nothing, but after all the stuff you have been through who knows, it could have been anything!!
It is one of those funny things that maybe only us on here would appreciate though!!
Have a great weekend ladies ... I hope everyone has a couple uneventful, though peaceful, days!
I am going to take a meditation class ... they offer them free at the clinic where I will be getting my radiation, I probably could have used them long before all of this, but certainly, I need to lower my stress levels right now. oooohmmmm.
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Hi Chickenpants -- love your story --
yes about the # of rads -- I thought I was having 16 but was told that since my breast was dense I had to have 25 - I think it was lower dose over more days -- if the breast was not as dense I think I could have had higher dose and 16 treatments. Make sense??
I am raw under my breast and arm and dealing with that -- cold compress, polysporin and corn starch -- it must have been terrible the pain with your nipples cracking - thankfully I do not have that.
I haven't used the saline rinse and keep saying I am going to so might try that today.
Keep positive everyone ---
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mckenna, sorry about the soreness ... I hope you can relax a little this weekend. I am at running camp!! Up in the mountains of Flagstaff (where it is about 40F cooler than the desert). I will be all ready for 7AM on Monday (not).
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MCKENNA--My last day willl be June 27th.
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Schatzi - yes, the radiation is a prescription depending on your type of cancer. Mine was 50 gy per each side plus 14 gy for the boosts. In Canada they generally do less number of fractionated doses, but studies indictate there are no discerning differences in survival rates or side effects. I think there's an explanation in this website, but my iPad won't allow me to copy and paste a link.
BL - I think that's great you're doing meditation classes. I have done healing touch weekly since the fall, just after my more invasive procedures started and it sure was good for calming my inner warrior. I am at peace with everything that's happened to me.
I have the recipe for the saline soak if anyone needs it.
Have a great weekend and I hope you all don't mind me hanging out a bit here. I got lost on the April/May Rads thread. Way too big :-( -
chickenpants...it's nice to have someone here kinda regularly...I know I am here waaaaaaaay too much but I find it interesting. Especially when I am feeling "is it only me...or?"
Thanks for the explanation of rads...who knew? You rarely get any info from the Drs..just the bare minimum I think.
Enjoy the long weekend with this wonderful weather we are having. My garden was so neglected last summer I have a lot of work to do.
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May 29, 2012
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I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend off from rads! I know I am! Session #5 tomorrow. No SE's so far apart from a slight pinkish tone to my breast and some tenderness that comes and goes. My nipple is very sensitive but it has been like that since the lumpectomy. Incidentally, my RO gave me a prescription for Biafine and said to mix it with Aquaphor. Firstly, my insurance doesn't cover the cost and it's $50 a tube and secondly, I find Aqua so greasy that I only use it at night. So, I am sticking with my Glaxal Base during the day and Aloe Vera if I need it.
Mckenna - I saw your post about using your regular deodorant, so I asked my RO & she reluctantly told me that there has been a study done comparing skin issues using 'natural' deodorants, or none at all, and the regular brands, and interestingly, the incidence of skin reaction was about the same. So, I am back to using my regular Sure deodorant....no more smelly armpit, yeah!! If I find that I do develop soreness there, I'll go back to my Toms.
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Yeah for regular deoderant
I have enjoyed my weekend off. I know a few of you start this week. Good luck.
I feel like all of my tenderness and pain is from the Edema. I had prior to rads. I am going to ask for more pain meds because by the end of the day when I have not been able to rest at all I am in quite a bit of pain but two of the nights I took pain meds left from surgery and was much more comfortable and able to sleep.
I cooked meals for the week so that if I start feeling tired at least I just have to warm them up.
lets hope the weekend arrives quickly and we get 3 days off -
I have 7 down and have been tired every night, like exhausted. I have slept harder than I have since b4 chemo. Anybody else worn out?
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I have 15 down and I started to feel tired after 6. I didn't sleep well since my diagnosis and then thru chemo so its been a treat to sleep thru the night!
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I haven't felt any tiredness yet. I'm exercising quite a bit and keeping active and I really think that helps me. I also haven't had chemo - I'm sure that takes quite a bit to recover from.
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I want to exercise more and I know that it helps with fatigue but even walking for too long makes my edema site worse. I haven't had chemo either and I think that makes a difference too
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I'd like to join this gang of sisters--I start radiation this morning at 10:00! Thanks for all the information to go forward with. You all rock.
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As a follow-up to my earlier post about pain right from the start, my RO said it is nerves responding to the radiation, rather than burning. She prescribed neurontin, which I have taken before for another situation, to calm the nerves. That is a relief, that it is not from burning.
RO recommended 1/2 cornstarch and 1/2 baking soda as deodorant. I will try it.
As far as creams, she recommended non-prescription Miaderm. I just ordered 3 tubes. They do recommend using it one week prior to radiation. I am starting one week after. I have samples, and it is a nice cream, not at all irritating. You apply it 3 times a day, or even 4. About $85 for 3 tubes, which is what RO recommended for 7 weeks of rad. But I gladly ordered it, small company, very nice and helpful lady on the phone.
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Happy Monday everyone. After a wonderful weekend running in the mountains of Flagstaff I am back to reality ... day 1 down, pretty easy so far!
I have been using Miaderm for the week before ... I put it on right after treatment and then put on a little aloe. I am hoping it helps. I am most worried about the side near the underarm ... it is such a sensitive area and they seem to be paying a lot of attention to it.
Good luck today ladies! -
blinthedesert: glad day one went well
welcome sbelizabeth. when is your end date?
if i have missed anyone's end dates please let me know.
mopsy, glad they were able to figure out what is going on and able to give you something to help.
they did more xrays today and it felt like it took longer than the first time they did xrays. i feel like i am in a totally different position, last week i was not uncomfortable, this week they have me laying where it hurts my back, when i questioned whether i was getting radiation properly last week because of all the repostioning they did today, they said no but did not really give me a good explaination so i am going to ask my ro tomorro.
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I started April 26, finish on June 12 if I hold up for all 33.
Lynne
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