April 2012 Chemo Starters?
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Maria, I have been working since day 1 of all this. It actually helps some days, to move the body and the mind. I am also fortunate to have understanding bosses though. The key has been getting sleep. If you are having issues with that, get meds. That is the one major thing. I hope that it goes well for you.
Nofear, the probiotics are working for you? A friend suggested that to me too but i hadnt tried yet.
Had the 'why me' breakdown last night- 2 months later! Some days the se's affect the brain! My stomach has been a mess and the constipation is driving me crazy. Trying to eat, and keep it healthy too. Ugh.
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I just want to reassure all of the AC team out here that there is hope! After 2 grueling infusions, I met with a new oncologist and he has truly come through for me. I had my third AC yeaterday afternoon and was able to get up out of bed today, go to work and function without a HORRIFIC headache and nausea (for the first time in 3 infusions). I am so releived and so grateful to have found an onc who listened to my concers and addressed each and every one of them. It is a testament to the support I receive on this forum and all deserve equal credit as I kept hearing it repeated over & over in my head "you don't have to suffer!" That said, the onc tweaked my pre-meds and shifted arond some post meds and so far so good. I can't even believe the difference. Needless to say the pre-meds knocked me out but I'm okay with a good nap during infusion. I am hopeful for a peaceful weekend and I wish you all the same.
Maria~I have continued to work full time to the best of my ability since diagnosis in Nov. 2011. I have attempted to schedule appointments and tests outside of the work day and save sick days for procedures and post-infusion setbacks. My bosses have been extremely supportive and understanding but I'm also confident that that doesn't mean they want me absent from work too much. I am fortunate that I work with kids with special needs and the joy that they bring is a welcome distraction! Just do what you can do. Review meds with onc and see if you can get the nausea under control and the crash on a schedule that won't interfere with work too much. Best of luck to you!
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Thanks for your thoughts, C-squared. I'm starting to realize how much I need to be grateful for any hour or part of any day I am able to tolerate this crazy ride. I can't predict what is going to happen when I have to go back to work. I'm scheduled to return June 18th - a full month away. I'm not sure if I wish I had a crystal ball anyway!! Today I am feeling OK physically overall. My partner, Michael, is having a complete freakout day. I think he can do it because I am not totally helpless and needing him today so he got a chance to come face to face with his own emotions. I'm kind of just letting him do it and not try to help too much. He is the kind of person that when he gets like this there is no saying the right thing. He got me through biopsies, my mastectomy, port surgery, 2 chemos, a dozen medical appointments, getting my long hair cut to a pixie, getting my pixie shaved off, and now today he spent 30 minutes putting tape all over my head to pull out the stubble because it is all over the house and in my eyes. He deserves a bit of a total meltdown, I guess. :-). Thanks for the well-wishes. I haven't exercised since before my mastectomy and am going to get on the stationary bike today and turn the pedals over a bit.
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Jryan. The probiotics have helped but I am still having stomch issues, I feel full all the time & cannot get food or liquid down me. I have to force myself. I am hoping my stomch comes @ by next Wed when I have my last AC treatment.
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Csquared - I usually have a good day the day after treatment it is the night of treatment that is the most grueling. It usually starts @ 7pm til 5am where I have severe nausa & dizziness/head cold symptoms. Do u exp this at all. I have my last AC next weds & I am dreading it. Do u know what yur oc did to change it up.
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No fear- He added Ativan to my pre-meds and some Dexamethasone for the day after. Infusion (#3/4)was yesterday afternoon and it's the best one I've had yet. Not saying I'm up for a bike ride or anything.., can't even bring myself to clean a little bit in prep for company tomorrow. But, the last 2 AC's were absolutely horrendous and this one managable in comparison.
I am so happy for you that you will be having your last AC this Wednesday. I can't wait to celebrate my last May 31st, if all continues on schedule. What's next for you after the AC? I had Taxol first. I'm off to surgery (BMX) first week in July after chemo. {sigh}
Talk to your onc again, tell him/her your side effects and ask if there is anything they can do. Best of luck to you and remember the mantra "we shouldn't have to suffer!"
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Csquared thanks for the update I will talk to my onc about it. I will have 4 treatments of taxol being done 7/18. I am hearing taxol is easier, esp on the digestive syst, which has been the worst for me, then radiation for 6 weeks. I had my bmx first.
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Is anyone experiencing vision problems since startng chemo? My eyes are definitely getting weaker ...I had to buy stronger readers.
I think I will have to check out the probiotics....my stomach is a mess. And I agree, the constipation is unbelievable. Of course I take Claritin, so that dries me out too. It is just one thing after another...I've never had so many prescription bottles on my dresser.......
Finding something to eat is my biggest challenge now. The only thing that was tasting half way normal was tomatoe dishes and now all that acidity is causing me some major reflux.
This forum is such a good outlet for all our pain and suffering. No one who has not gone thru this can understand it.
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Twostep, I've noticed a difference in my vision too. I didn't think to tie it to chemo. I get real blurry for a couple days, but then it seems to go back to normal. I kept thinking it was from being tired!
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Yes, I noticed vision issues. I'm having trouble reading texts on my phone and cooking instructions on boxes and I wasn't having these issues before. I'm wondering if chemo is creating a vitamin deficiency which I know really impacts vision and there is something that can be done.
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Well the onc was right. The effects of the AC treatments are definitely cumulative and I guess the Neulasta shots are too. I have been keeping a daily diary to track side effects. I had severe bone pain and headache exactly 8 days after first Neulasta shot and sure enough, it hit me again last night, right on schedule. Treated it first time with Clariton and Ibuprofen and that worked well. This time the Ibuprofen didn't work as well and I took Hydrocodone...helped a bit more. Still it was a rough night and lasted all thru today including nausea and terrible hot flashes. I will be calling onc Monday to see what else I can do to get through the next AC and Neulasta shot with less misery. All I can conclude is that it takes 7-8 days for the Neulasta shot to make my bone marrow "do its thing" and produce the white blood cells, which causes the pain and other symptoms. Sorry to hear that everyone else is struggling with SEs too...easy to get to feeling down when we feel crappy.. but don't lose the faith! We'll get thru this.
BTW I notice that some of you will be getting your surgeries after you finish your chemo. Just a reminder....I had BMX in Feb. with immediate reconstruction... a DIEP flap on the non cancer side and a TRAM flap on the cancer side. If anyone is planning a flap surgery and has questions, please feel free to send me questions. Surgery is a whole other world of delights...but it too is "doable." My surgery was no picnic (I had some complications related to a blood clotting disorder). But I am very pleased with the results and will be having Phase II of my surgery after I finish chemo.
Pelicangirl
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I showered yesterday as soon as I was allowed to, and am having a lot of problems dealing with my port. I'm only a little sore around my collarbone now, though an incision in my neck is still quite painful. Seeing the port was very traumatic for me, I felt very woozy and had to take an anti-nausea pill. The doctor said it would hardly be noticeable- but it's so big.
I know it's a minor thing in the whole scheme of things, but still... very upsetting for me.
I slept most of the day Friday, and had a good nap today, as well.
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Unfortunately, I won't be able to get reconstruction immediately after my surgery. I have a few weeks of radiation to undergo first, and the plastic surgeon said it could be 2-3 months after the radiation b4 we can go forward. I'm going with the tram flap. I have 2 friends that went with it and were very pleased with the results.
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I too am having serious issues with my eyes, it's bad enough I needed new glasses anyway and I've been told to wait until after chemo is over for a while before getting new ones. This time I won't be going to a cheap fly by night company-the ones I currently have I never really got used to in the first place-I thought it was because they were bifocals. I am now post 12 days of my 2nd TC and really am doing OK my stomach has been touchier- and I really need to watch that-but other than that the migraines hit about every day or so. I take 50 mg of imitrex with 1/2 of a vicodin.
Have a nice Sunday ladies-looks like I'll be staying home with my dear 9 y/o son that has an ear infection.
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Pelicangirl I too will.be calling my onc office on Monday still.having se and it has been 10 days & I am suppose to get my last AC on weds. No energy and my stomch is a mess still.
Twostep I was doing the probiotics and it seemed to help at first but not now. My stomch is still a mess. I feel full.all the time, no.appetite, but when I do.force myself to.eat food tastes good, just can't eat a lot. I keep.losing weight & the first time in my life I don't want to.
I am trying to keep in mind that daily things change, I am hoping for a better day for us all tomorrow. -
It sure it a day by day thing. Today I felt OK between A/C treaments physically but my partner who has been supporting me in all of this completely lost his shit telling me he is not sure he can continue and handle all of this. It made for an unbelievably miserable day. I'm not the gorgeous blonde executive top dog athlete he fell for with perfect natural breasts...as he told me so many times, I guess. I'm bald, can't work, and can workout like an old lady in severe financial duress with chest expanders where one has flipped and is in the totally wrong place. For tonight we are still together but his words today felt as poison as chemo entering my veins. I don't think I would be too hot on the dating market these days like I was. Still to me I am me regardless. Cancer and chemo really suck. My job, my home, my relationship and a constant fear of reoccurence. But I know many have it worse and I know it will get worse ahead.
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Hello! I started AC last 4/26, every 3 weeks x4, then taxotere every 3 weeks x4, with weekly Herceptin for a year. I just had my second AC 4 days ago. Still feeling feverish and weak and tired. Seems like a still have a big big mountain ahead of me. Just have to keep on thinking this is temporary. Everybody can do this!
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Mariasnow - that totally sucks about yur partner esp at a time when u need him the most. Is he just venting, becuz being a care provider is just as hard but for different reasons. This journey is not an easyo one for the person w cancer & the family/friends that surround her. Do u have family/friends that can help out more and relieve yur partner? Know that today is just a point in time & that it will change & get better, it just doesn't feel like it right now. This is an adjustment but it is temporary as many former sisters have come back to say so. Hopefully yur partner will come back @ & is able to hang in there & support u. Stay strong.
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Maria, men just don't get it. Can you imagine if this was him; you would just roll right along and help and take care of him. It makes me so angry....I'm very fortunate my dh is supportive, but I am hearing more and more stories of men who "can't take it"..... Oh please, I understand care taking is tough, but he's not the one going through chemo!
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I have 3 sisters who know him and know me and are trying to help. My sister gave me some tough love this morning. I'm just trying to take it in. She thinks I'm being so dependent on him, so needy, so depressed and not showing any spark or hope that I am contributing to the problem too. I have 3 siblings who have had malignant cancer. My sister's 20 year marriage broke up during her cancer treatment - 2nd recourrnce.
I downloaded Lance Armstrong's book today. Maybe my sister is right that 2 solid months on the pity pot is enough for a while. I don't know. My boyfriend told me the constant crying and whining is too much and he wants to be with a badass. Still, I definitely don't believed deserved how he acted yesterday by any means...but for today I am willing to look at what if anything I can do to turn things around at least for this week. -
Karen, I am happy to hear your manager is understanding. I am doing my best to stay positive that I will be able to return to work part-time during the Taxol part of my treatment. I figure it takes a lot less energy to be positive than it does to be negative right now. My life is in utter mayhem. My father was in the hospital this week and is likely to be entering a nursing home. My mom has Alzheimers and he was her primary care giver. Out of the blue he got a UTI that has left him unable to walk right now. The hospital says his faculties may not return to normal. I am very very grateful that I have siblings in the northeast that are jumping in. I was in a suicially depressed funk for two months. Trying to think more about picking myself up and moving forward today.
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Maria...I have to agree with sissydi......he was being a total jerk to put you thru that when you have enough going on in your life. If he wants to freak out...do it in private and then be there for you. .... But I also think you need to try to pull yourself up. When I sink to the bottom, I don't like it there and I will do whatever it takes to get out of the "funk". My friends help a lot. Good luck to you.
I went in to work today and was able to put in almost 8 hours. It actually was good to get out and do something because I felt better. Still don't know if I will get my treatment Thursday but I couldn't stay in any longer.
All the girls I work with had on pink shirts with hope / love on them. Really means a lot to have the support.
Came home and am cooking supper for the husband.
Been a good day.... for a change!
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Twostep, congrats on a successful work day. My relationship struggle sparked some fire in me if nothing else. It reminded me that I need to count on myself in the end and so I better pull myself together because I really have been in a deep unproductive funk and expecting all the worst. Thinking only the worst has stopped me from taking as many positive actions as I could for myself. Today I did a couple of errands to help my morale and I rose my spinning bike. I also made plans with a friend for dinner tomorrow night. I needed to get my butt in gear a bit. As for my significant other he does many things I would never do!! Today he is back to his supportive mode. Go figure.
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It's been a crazy ride, isn't it Maria? Your doing all the right things....we can't control what others do or feel, but we can change and empower ourselves....good for you! It's soo easy to stay in "the dark place".
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Oh, and so far, Taxol isn't half as bad as A/C! Second day from infusion now, and feeling pretty okay in comparison!
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Boy am I glad to hear some of you say Taxol isn't quite as bad. If I get my treatment this week, then I go to 4 Taxol treatments after that.
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everybody OK out there? Sure is quiet. I wanted to ask what bad side effects anyone has had on the taxol? I was just so happy to get the chemo yesterday and mark my half-way there milestone. There is light at the end of the tunnel.......
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Two step, this is my first week on Taxol, and I can honestly say its so much better than A/C. I'm three days out.....having some bone and muscle pain, but it's manageable! Let us know how you do on it!
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So relieved that some of you are finding taxol a bit easier to tolerate than AC. I get my 3rd of four AC treatments next week and I am dreading it...number 2 has been tough enough. I am still having bad hot flashes not just at night but during the day too and fatigue in the afternoons. Insomnia at night. Started feeling some tingling and numbness in my toes..guess that is neuropathy. I am usually upbeat despite these SEs but have felt a little down this week. I hear it is not uncommon to get discouraged in the middle of treatment...it can seem like we still have such a long way to go. Hopefully tomorrow will feel like a brighter day. I do take comfort in knowing that the SEs mean that the chemo is WORKING! I figure if it is doing such a number on my healthy cells it is most certainly nuking any lingering little cancer cells! Have a restful and healing weekend everyone.
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Keep hanging in there.....I've had my share of down days. I think a good cry is good tho....helps get some of the hurt out.
I'm also having some SE's that I haven't had b4. All of my fingers had the skin peel off and my thumb split. I've been putting gold bond on my hands constantly. I also notice that I can't go barefoot comfortably any more. It's like the the padding on the balls of my feet isn't there. I asked the ONC about it and she said it is one of the SE that some people can get. I did get to finish my first 4 weeks and got my Neulasta shot yesterday. I definitely notice the drop in energy today.
I need something to look forward to so I told my husband we will be going to Florida when this ordeal is all over. Probably take till after the first of the year so I'm going to book May. There's just something about the ocean that is so soothing to me. Gives me something to research at 2:00 in the morning when I can't sleep.
Good luck to all of you. I hope your SE'a are minimal this week.
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