Herceptin, Fatigue & Joint Pain

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WendyTY
WendyTY Member Posts: 112

Wondering if anyone else is experiencing fatigue and joint pain after Herceptin treatments.  I started Herceptin every three weeks back in December.  Last month the joint pain got even worse.  On Monday, I started taking pain meds to control it.  I am having a hard time standing up and walking.  I'm only 38, should I really feel like a 90 year old?!  I'm frustrated that I am feeling so badly.  I thought things would start getting better.  Just venting a little and wondering if this is normal.

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  • Brenda_R
    Brenda_R Member Posts: 509
    edited May 2009

    I had bad back, hip, and leg pain during Herceptin tx. I asked the onc and of course he had never heard of it, even though I've read lots of posts that state the same thing.

    After tx ended, that pain faded out.

  • Roxi65229
    Roxi65229 Member Posts: 462
    edited May 2009

    Wendy,

    I'm winding down on my herceptin treatments. I'll have completed a year in July, which I received every three weeks. I have joint pain but contributed it to chemo. They did a bone scan in December and I have some bone loss from chemo so I'm on fasomax once a week right now. I also take glucosimine and vitamin D with calcium (1200 mg daily). I don't think the herceptin caused my bone pain. The additional vitamins have helped.

  • WendyTY
    WendyTY Member Posts: 112
    edited May 2009

    Thanks Brenda and Roxi.  I am heading to the cancer center tomorrow for another treatment.  Hopefully we will be able to find something that works soon.  I will be finishing up in December.  Did each of you go 1 year from the time your started the Herceptin with chemo or the Herceptin only?

  • Brenda_R
    Brenda_R Member Posts: 509
    edited May 2009

    I didn't have Herceptin with chemo. I had A/C chemo, then rads for 7 weeks and then Herceptin for 1 year. It took 1 and 1/2 years for me to complete treatment.

  • Roxi65229
    Roxi65229 Member Posts: 462
    edited May 2009

    I had adriamycin and cytoxan first followed by taxotere. Chemo started around Memorial day last year. My chemo regiment lasted until Labor day. My herceptin was given with the taxotere every three weeks and will continue until July. I did rads the month of October. Tomorrow is my diep swap surgery. One step closer to closure. Best of luck to you Wendy!

  • SQL
    SQL Member Posts: 14
    edited May 2009

    I too had joint pain from herceptin. My Dr. told me it was probably menopause.(HA) I started to track it and the joint pain lasted for about 10 days after each treatment. By the third week, I was much better. I have only three treatments left. I fund 12 tylenol for arthritis quite good. Clucosamine and Condroitin didn't work...it made me retain water. Yoga really helps. Also Epson Salts Bath with Baking Soda. You are not alone:)

  • WendyTY
    WendyTY Member Posts: 112
    edited June 2009

    Thanks SQL!  Like you, I have heavily funded Tylenol.  It just got to the point that it stopped working.  I'm also doing the yoga thing.  I'll have to try the bath.

  • fightinhrd123
    fightinhrd123 Member Posts: 633
    edited June 2009

    I have the herceptin joint pain, and some left over chemo pain i think.  I still have herceptin til december.  Hopefully it will go away, i'm still taking vicodin for it!

  • smarie
    smarie Member Posts: 9
    edited June 2009

    Hello ladies, 

    Can anyone explain their back pain from herceptin?  I've been on herceptin since Oct 08 (16 round of chemo beginning in Aug 08).  In late Feb 09 I began having strange back pain.  The intesity comes and goes and I'm trying to track it to herceptin but it just doesn't add up.  Throughout the day I intermittently feel like I have knuckles in my spine.  Then out of nowhere for about 2 -3 days I am very uncomfortable.  I have all sorts of symptoms in my back - stabbing pain, shooting pain.

    I had a bone scan 2 months ago (2 months after symptoms began) and it came back fine but 2 months later I'm still having problems.  Anyone else have the same symptoms from herceptin?? 

  • Mocity
    Mocity Member Posts: 451
    edited June 2009

    Wendy I too am 38 years old and feeling like a old woman!  I started Herceptin with Taxol (Chemo) and took it every week Nov08-Jan09.  Since then I take it every 3 weeks.  I have back pain but I also had severe scoliosis and had a back spinal fusion in 1989 so I never know the real cause of it.  What I notice is the fatigue and weight gain.  I wish some ladies that are done with Herceptin would tell us if it will get better once the Herceptin infusions are over.

  • coonie
    coonie Member Posts: 7,618
    edited June 2009

    I finished Herceptin in January. The only complaint I had while on Herceptin was a runny nose. I think the pain was probably from the chemo. But now that I'm through with chemo, I take Arimidex, and I'm almost certain the pain is from Arimidex. And unfortunately, that's something I'll have to endure for another 3 years and 11 months.....hehe.....can you tell I'm counting the days?

    Honestly, I think every treatment we have to go through does something to our bodies and everyone is different. As my doctor says, everybody's cancer is different, is treated different and everyone reacts different.

    I guess the only good thing is we're KILLING cancer and that's the most important thing. I can learn to live with a little joint pain and fatigue as long as I don't have cancer in my body.

    I wish all you ladies the best of luck!! Just be sure and advise your doctors of anything going on that's not normal for you.

    ((((((((((((gentle hugs to all of you))))))))))

  • anitach
    anitach Member Posts: 191
    edited June 2009

    I started Herceptin in May '07 and just had my last treatment on April 30 , '09. I am 37 and in the last 6 months of the Herceptin was wondering how much longer my body was going to be able to tolerate it because the fatigue and pain was really getting to me. I described to my onc. that the day after infusion I felt like I had been hit by a truck!! I also had to take pain meds to help control the pain. All throughout May of this year I've been waiting to feel better since I'm not taking the Herceptin anymore. I was beginning to think that this was just what I would feel like for the rest of my life.

    Today, I am happy to tell you that just in the last week I have noticed more pep in my step and that by the end of the work day I don't feel like I need a pain pill to get through the evening anymore!! I just went back to look at my calendar and it has been almost 8 weeks exactly so there is HOPE ladies!! It WILL get better!! I can honestly tell you that I am just now starting to remember what I felt like before chemo and Herceptin - can't say I'm all the way there but there is a glimmer of feeling good coming my way!

    I hope this helps.....

    Anita

  • Seven11
    Seven11 Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2010

    I get knee pain and it does fade by the time I get my next dose of H.  I find exercise helps, but sometimes I feel older than my 80 year old mother when I walk down my stairs. 

  • Terri392010
    Terri392010 Member Posts: 1
    edited March 2010

    Hi Wendy:  I don't know if you are still checking this site but I am interested in whether you are still having the joint pain.  I had mild arthritis in my knees before the treatments started March 12,  2009.  My last 3-week interval Herceptin treatment was 3/9/2010.  I now have joint pain in my left elbow (the operated side) too.  The knee pain worsened with the treatments, and the Chondrotin/Glucosomate (sp?) worked for the first couple of months but has stopped working now.  The pain is to the point that I'm going to my doctor's office today to see if I can get Cortisol shots.  My chemo doctor suggested taking fish oil but that never really helped.  One of the questions I was asked at each treatment was about joint pain. I was 48 when diagnosed with breast cancer as well.  Any information you or anyone else could provide would be appreciated.  Thanks, Terri

  • Jenna1961
    Jenna1961 Member Posts: 71
    edited April 2010

    Hi Terri, my joint pain from Herceptin is in every part of the body (6 rounds of H so far). It is interesting how you have it only in your knees and elbow.
    I asked my onc whether the joint pain we all here experience was in fact arthritis and she confirmed although she said "it is more complex and not well explained.. " etc.

    Your pre-existing mild arthritis probably got much, much worse with the chemo and H. Maybe you now have both osteo + rheumatoid arthritis in your knees. Herceptin definitely mixes up the immune system. An arthritis specialist could probably help you with the pain/treatment.

  • JanR
    JanR Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2010

    I was diagnosed with breast cancer in May 2006. I had 3 doses of 5fu, cytoxin, and epirubicin, then 3 doses  of taxatere every 3 weeks. I then had 1 year of herceptin from January 2007 - December 2007. I gainned too much weight and am finally losing some of it. About 10 -1 5 more pounds to go. I do have joint aches but thought they were normal since I do have arthritis. ALEVE seems to take care of this for me. I am still suffering from fatigue. My blood counts are good, but when the weather gets hot, anywhere above 90 degrees, it just drains me. I thought it was just me and people who had not been through chemo or herceptin don't seem to understand. I'm sure my age does not help any. I was diagnosed at 54 and am now 58. Prior to chemo I used to walk in the morning before going to work, now I am struggling to get out of bed and go to work. I keep hoping that anyone younger than me won't have the same fatigure experience. Currently, I'm surviving by using 5hour energy. The good news is we are all here to read/write about our experiences. May each of you have positive outcomes with all of your tests, treatments, and surgeries.

  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited June 2010

    I am nearly 4 years out - I finished Herceptin in May 2008. - I was EXHAUSTED after each infusion - I went every third Thursday, and I slept most of the weekend afterwards.  I would nap almost every afternoon for 2 hours for the following weeks until the next infusion.

    I also retained a lot of water, had joint aches. no energy.  I took Tylenol for arthritis, Aleve, finally naproxen.  I did get some relief from these meds, and I also found that soak in in a hot bath with Epsom Salts did help.  Tried to exercise when I could, which was hard because of my fatigue.  Really a bummer, the 2 years before I was diagnosed at age 48 I was in the best shape of my life - I had lost about 25 lbs., went to a ladies only club like Curves 4-5 x/week, also walked  2-3 x/week. 

    As I am triple+, I was on Tamoxifen for 2 1/2 years, now on Femara.  The Femara is very tough, again fatigue, bad joint pain, water retention etc.  Major weight gain, very depressing.  Now that the weather is better I am trying to walk 30 -45 minutes at least 3x.week.  My GP put me on Meloxicam (an anti-inflammatory) which has helped the joint/muscle pain. It's a never ending battle, but we do what we can. 

    Good luck ladies, we are lucky to have Herceptin. 

  • WendyTY
    WendyTY Member Posts: 112
    edited July 2010

    Just wanted to post an update.  I finished up Herceptin in August 2009.  Not sure when I started feeling better (January, I think).  I just know that over the last several months I keep finding myself saying...I never thought I would feel this good again.  For those of you in treatment.  It will get better!  Stay positive.

    Caya is right...we are very lucky to have Herceptin!

  • shadow2356
    shadow2356 Member Posts: 393
    edited July 2010

    Its good for me to read that joint pain and fatigue are side effects of herceptin. My doctors say there are no side effects to herceptin. As soon as they start the infusion my nose starts to run. After I feel tired and irritable. I also have the joint pain.

    When I read on here that others have some side effects i feel better. I thought maybe it could be something else causing these symptoms.

  • sharonerjones
    sharonerjones Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2010

    I experienced joint pain after the first dose of Herceptin. By the third I was in agony from head to toe. The oncologist didn't believe me at first as she had never heard of anyone experiencing a reaction like this. There is nothing in the official research. It is comforting to know that I was not going mad. They stopped the Herceptin and I recovered. I still have swelling in my fingers but I have found when I eat a handful of sultanas every hour I have no pain!

  • WordDoctor
    WordDoctor Member Posts: 15
    edited August 2010

    I started 6 rounds of TCH in Jan. and finished the TC at the end of April. During those 4 months I didn't have joint pain, that I noticed, although the Neulasta hit me hard a couple of times. Then when I continued with the Herceptin alone, the joint pain kept getting worse and worse (as well as my nails becoming weak and breaking easily). It seems to fade in and out, not necessarily based on how long since the last infusion. I thought exercise would help, since that's what's recommended for arthritis. Exercise makes my joint pain worse! I'm glad to read about others having the same kind of pains. It helps a lot. I also have severe psoraisis, which I've had since I was a child. It's gotten worse with the Herceptin also. I've read that it also can cause a type of arthritis that is similar to rheumatoid arthritis, called psoraiatic arthritis. It seems my immune system is really reacting. (Psoraisis is caused by the same virus as chicken pox and shingles).

  • TahoePam
    TahoePam Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2012

    Hello Ladies,  I too am having knee pain while on Herceptin.  It was comforting to read your posts and know I am not alone, not making this up, and not crazy.  My doctor doesn't seem to have heard of knee pain associated with Herceptin.  My treatment continues for another couple of months, looking forward to feeling better soon.  Blessing to you all, continued strength and good health.

  • jittersmom
    jittersmom Member Posts: 165
    edited May 2012

    I also have joint pain and have trouble standing after i have been sitting. I told the Dr my muscles and joints were bad...never heard of it ugh.Laast time I went for herceptin i complained again. He told me to take magnesium. the muscle pain is better but my joints hurt, my nails are weird too, and yes the runny nose! I am glad to see its not just me, you start thinking you are crazy!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited May 2012

    How quickly are you receiving your Herceptin only infusions?  The first one I received after chemo was infused in 30 minutes.  I had far more joint pain that I had even when receiving TCH.  Another member posted that slowing down the infusion to 90 minutes might help.  I asked for that and it did seem to lessen the joint pain.  I finished Herceptin in January and it took a couple of months before I lost the runny nose and joint pain.

  • jittersmom
    jittersmom Member Posts: 165
    edited May 2012

    its 30 minutes every 3 weeks...my last chemo with taxotere and carbo was march 20 so i was really hoping to feel better but alas not to be! I am aslo have radiology 18 treatments so far 15 to go...looking forward to the end

  • sindy68
    sindy68 Member Posts: 1
    edited September 2016

    oh my god,  I thought I was going in sane !!!! My oncologist , my primary and cardiologist all want to refer me to arthritis doctor.  My joints hurt so bad I take OTC meds, prescription pain relievers.  It is the Herceptin just like I have been saying for the past 5 months.   Before cancer, I was walking up to 10 miles a day, before work at lunch and after work. Now I can hardly go to the store, and steps make me almost cry.  Then they what me on aromatase inhibitor that

    prevents the formation of estradiol, a form of estrogen, the female hormone, by interfering with an aromatase enzyme. Aromatase inhibitors are used as a type of hormone therapy for postmenopausal women who have hormone-dependent breast cancer. That stuff also creates the same side effects and then more.  Where is our quality of life? I do not want to be a pill addict to live.

    How come we all can find the research and they know nothing?



  • Lumpie
    Lumpie Member Posts: 1,650
    edited September 2016

    I have been searching for posts on others' experiences with Herceptin. Glad I located this even though there is only sindy68's post recently. I am on tx 12 of 18 of the Herceptin this week (finished with chemo and radiation) and am experiencing so much bone pain it is scary. It's hard to avoid worrying about the worst case scenario. I also have joint pain, especially if I sit still for long. Hearing that others have had bad side effects actually gives me some hope that these are side effects we have to get thru - and then it will get better. A college buddy (who did chemo but not Herceptin) told me that it was about 2 years after chemo before she started feeling better (energy level). Ugh! But at least she did start feeling better. It's really helpful to hear about others' experiences so I hope more of you will consider sharing what it has been like for you/how you are feeling on Herceptin. Thanks!

  • tessu
    tessu Member Posts: 1,564
    edited September 2016

    This thread gives me so much hope! My docs insist that the only side effect of Herceptin is rare cardiac issues, but I've been more and more exhausted after every injection for longer and longer (I get it under the skin not iv --- Finland). Not to mention diarrhea and headaches and skin and nail problems. I only have two more to go, last one the first week of November. Hearing that at least some of these SEs MIGHT go away is great --- I was so afraid they were all from the AI I have to take for 9 1/2 more years...

  • HattieHouston
    HattieHouston Member Posts: 11
    edited September 2016

    I had the Herceptin every 3 weeks and I got my last one a week ago. I was told I would have fatigue with Herceptin and possible stuffy nose. Like you all, I have been exhausted for 10 weeks now and and my nose is still running and stopping up at night so it wakes me. I was told I might get some nerve pain or numbness and have but not as much as I expected. I've had stiffness as one of you described like getting up from a chair and the the first few steps are clumsy. Now, I am so weak or something that my one flight of stairs in my home take all the energy I have to get to the top and I am out of breath at the top. I was in good condition before starting the treatments. I have two more treatments of Paclitaxel and then I am finished. I don't know what comes next. I have had some cardiac side effects which to me have been the most troubling. I have edema that wont respond to diuretics. I hope this helps someone. My team tells me that only two years ago I would not have access to Herceptin and it is so good for my type of cancer, the her2 neu +.

  • Tabbycat
    Tabbycat Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2018

    I have been having Herceptin for over a year now and Im good with pain normally, but since January the pain has become unbareable. So much so in my thighs and hips it keeps me awake at night. Do you have same similar symptoms

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