April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • sandik
    sandik Member Posts: 482
    edited May 2012

    Ive been wearing nothing when I go out unless my head is cold. Then Ill put a scarf on. Well, bandana. Scarves are not me. Haha

    I think my stomach issues are finally winding down. Wow that sucked. Haha

    Hope you are all doing well!

  • jjames76
    jjames76 Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2012

    Is the mass amounts of water every day? Or just treatment day and the few days following? The water is starting to be disgusting to me.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    jjames76- Normally, a person should drink about 8-10 glasses of water/fluid a day.  It doesn't mean that you ahve to drink 8 glasses of water everyday but your fluid intake, whether by tea, juice, soup, jello, ice should be in that range.  The infusion nurse told me that I needed to drink more water the day before my infusion to help get my port working.  You need to drink the day of the infusion and at least several days afterwards for sure to help flush out that chemo.  I know water is boring but you can add lemon to it, drink lemonade if you can tolerate the acid, sports drinks.  I got a Pur water purifier pitcher for my kitchen that I drink my water from.  It seems to taste a little better. 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    Sandik- I just read your latest post and started to laugh.....I don't know why your first sentence just hit me funny since I know you are talking about when you wear something on your head...... ok I'm weird this morning...... lol

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    This is the 1st time I haven't called in day #3. I have been ill but not call in ill. And my worst SEs have been evenings. Could change any minute. I work at home so it is easier than getting dressed and going in I realize.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    Stacie- Hope you feel better soon!!!! Glad you are at home working rather than dressed up and sitting in an office.

  • SadeSurvivor25
    SadeSurvivor25 Member Posts: 119
    edited May 2012

    Melrose, I'm glad I forgot too! One more day of normalcy. Get plenty of rest. I hope your downhill slide isn't too bad.

  • slak
    slak Member Posts: 179
    edited May 2012

    Just wanted to let everyone know that TX3 isn't necessarily the worst.  So far TX3 was the easiest for me.  I felt back to near normal as soon as 8 days after (except for wanting to eat everything in site).  So, maybe some of you have already done your toughest rounds!  One can hope!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    Thanks for sharing that slak!  

    I have hope! 

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited May 2012

    Well, I had an interesting day today.  Go in for my bloodwork before Tx2, and meet with the PA who looks at me solemnly and tells me my platelet levels are fine and the lab made a MISTAKE last week, and they were fine last week--it was their error.  So in other words, I could have had my treatment last week.  That was just the start of the day.  Since I don't have a port, it took two people, three different pokes (painful), busted a vain but finally got the IV going.  When the started the tax. I had an immediate reaction, my body turned red and couldn't breathe.  They had to put me on oxygen, more saline/steriods for another 1/2 hour and had to do a very, very slow drip... Six hours after my three hour appt, I was able to go home.  Had to take another round of steriods as soon as I got home, too.  Get the neulasta shot tomorrow, so I took the claritan today as well.  What a day!  Glad it's over, but the fun will just be beginning probably around tomorrow night when all three kids and 2 dogs come in tow to "visit" me from Chicago.  They know they will be doing nothing but hanging out with their mamma.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012
    kjiberty  - WOW.  What a day!!!!  Put your feet up and chill.  I can't believe all that happened in one day!   Glad you made it through that allergic reaction ok, that had to have been scary. 
  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited May 2012
    Kjliberty - !!! holy cr@p! Glad you're ok!
  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Wow, kjiberty! I take it nothing like that happened the first time? Feel better enjoy your visit - hoping you got feeling bad out of the way up front.

  • jjames76
    jjames76 Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2012

    Yea wow kjiberty! Hope it has calmed down for you.

    My was heart racing and its kinda scarey...i think i was at 100 beats per minute, ive since dropped to 85... But that was scarey and very wierd feeling. Im scared it will last longer if it happens again...i hope it doesnt happen again.

  • Pkate
    Pkate Member Posts: 37
    edited May 2012

    Haven't posted in awhile.  Working in between treatments and the downtime is just taking all of me.  Just had my 4th and last round of A/D.  My labs came back with low hematocrit (8.2) so after my chemo on Wednesday, I received two units of packed red cells.  First time for a transfusion for me even though during my lifetime, I've probably donated about 40 units.  It caused my heart rate to climb up to 115 and made everyone nervous including me.  Also even though they said that the transfusion usually acts as a diurectic but not for me so they gave me Lasix.  I had read that this sometimes happens and was actually glad they gave to me because I felt like a whole new person the next day. 

    So the other thing I wanted to pass along is regarding Taxol and nails.  I spoke to someone who works at Hopkins and they are doing a clinical trial there right now by having patients rub Tea Tree Oil into their nails and toenails twice a day.  She didn't give me any results but it can't hurt to try.  She also said to be careful about putting anything else, nail polish, on the nails because if they do split the polish gets into the nailbed.  I am growing out my gel nails, rather than taking them off, because they are so weak underneath.  I'll tell you now I'll never go back to those gel nails once I'm done seeing the damage underneath.  Guess I had done it for so long, I didn't see what was happening.  Anyway, I hope this helps someone.

    In two weeks, start the last four treatments of Taxol every other week.  Counting down until July 11th, my last one, providing I don't have to skip one.  The doc says the Taxol is a little easier as it doesn't mess with the digestive system so much but then adds, everyone is different.

    Love to you all and blessings along the journey.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited May 2012

    Yes, it was very scary.  Thank God my niece was there to call the nurse.  They acted very, very quickly.  Nothing like this happened the first time.  Didn't sleep worth a darn, even though it was chemically assisted.  Will chill, and perhaps work from home today.  Actually, got home at 3, set up a couple appts (work-related) for next Wednesday (I am thinking positivily, but all my clients know it's subject to change).  Friends brought me over too much food yesterday.  I am looking forward to seeing my kids, though, this weekend as I haven't seen them since my surgery in Mid-March.  Again, we are doing NOTHING, but sitting around.... Thanks for your kind thoughts.  Get the Nuelasta shot at 1 today.  Started the Claritan yesterday after the infustion.  I asked the PA about it and she said she had never heard of that.  Thank God there are these boards!

  • CityFi
    CityFi Member Posts: 95
    edited May 2012

    Looks like I'm off to the June Chemo Hang Out. I was supposed to start chemotherapy today, but based on the mixed bag that is my pathology report, they want to change my regimen to include adriamycin, making me officially ACT. That means an EKG first so they can get a baseline for my heart's natural rhythms. (WTF?) I couldn't schedule that until the 29th.



    They've also asked me to be part of a clinical trial. In a nutshell, there's a study that gives Herceptin to HER2- women (who ordinarily would not get it) to see if they benefit. I'm exploring it - reading the material, doing independent research, and coming up with a list of questions to ask the investigators - but since I supposedly have "garden-variety" breast cancer, I'm disinclined to subject myself to any drugs I don't need without some existing evidence of benefit already.



    But for now I'm still here, cheering all of you on and learning from your experiences.

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    CityFi. There's no real rule you have to switch threads you are welcome here. We have many who have/are just starting. If your treatment is really delayed June might be better so you are going through "with" a group. Thats all that matters. Threads are usually one month but I started this one for two to capture all the women in our Mar LX thread so we didn't get split up.

  • Fierro6
    Fierro6 Member Posts: 224
    edited May 2012

    CityFi, I am likely going to be delayed as well, since I have a drain that will NOT stop, so my original treatment start date of next Tuesday is likely  not going to happen.  Also, I was asked to be in that trial and found out that my insurance wouldn't pay for the infusion of the Herceptin.  The drug itself is paid for by the trial, but insurance has to pay for the administration of the drug.  I hope, if you decide to take that route, that you have better luck with insurance than I did.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012
    CitiFi- Just wanted to let you know that I am in the Herceptin B-47 Herceptin clinical trial.  After I was officially entered into the trial, I was "randomized" and one of the patients receiving the Herceptin.  Would love to have you join here.  I will still be receiving my chemo in August and know that some of these wonderful gal pals here will be done with their chemo.  I'll still be here and will hang with you!!!!  If you want, please join us here!!!!
  • CityFi
    CityFi Member Posts: 95
    edited May 2012

    Thanks, Stacie! That was good to hear.



    Fierro6, I'm sorry to hear that because it's nice to have choices even if they can be overwhelming at times. :(



    Melrose, just as you were posting that, I was sending you a PM about this because I found the board here. One of my major questions is whether or not my special Medicaid will cover it. My guess is that, yes, because my care center already has some women in the trial, and surely many of them have public insurance, but I have to be sure because coming out of pocket for uncovered care is not an option for me at this time. Still got to check it out. And you make a good point that there's no loss if I'm in the control group.



    I'm walking around with the consent form in my pocketbook because I keep rereading it.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012
    CitiFi-- As to the Medicaid question, just call and ask your onco if it will be covered.  That's something they should be able to answer easily.  If they can't, I see if I can find out for you from my research coordinator.I just sent you a really long PM.... good luck with your decision!!!
  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    Pkate - thanks for sharing your experience with the transfusion and also about the nails. 

    Update on me - I'm done with the endoscopy and am thrilled to say no severe damage was seen by the doc!!! I had "mild irritation" and a small hiatal hernia, but no major erosions or bleeding ulcers. This is a huge relief to me of course, especially since I did have Grade I erosions back in 2005, and my symptoms this time were MUCH worse!!! I guess my esophagus has just become incredibly sensitized to acid, so I am one of the ones who gets severe symptoms without major damage, thankfully. This information makes me feel much safer moving forward with my next TCH.    Third one scheduled for next Tuesday.  My heartburn has been significantly better over the past two days.  I will stay on all of my currrent meds and hope that they help prevent another bad flare after Round 3. 

    My platelets continue to drop, but not low enough to need a platelet transfusion.  My hemoglobin is up a bit to 9.7.  Hoping it climbs further so that my chance of needing a transfusion is lowered after round 3.  Just have to wait and see and do whatever is necessary.  

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    Dance- Good news. I also have a mild h hernia diagnosed 3 years ago. I haven't followed the "avoid" foods list well esp coffee. When I was dx with bc I quit coffee because I have to take daily prilosec when I drink it. Off the coffee and eating healthier overall I've had 1 day of heartburn in 3 Rounds after eating a super spicy meal-dumb! I cut the coffee so I don't mask future symptoms of a digestive issue since bc can spread and digestive cancers run in my family. Now if I eat a spicy meal occasionally and get heartburn I know it's that. I thought I could eliminate some needless worry. I was such a big coffee buff no one could believe it.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    Stacie - I so understand!  I didn't give up coffee until I had to start chemo.  I drank half decaf/half regular coffee for years with my daily Nexium.  Just couldn't give it up, it seemed.  However, once I read about reducing caffeine for chemo I bit the bullet and switched to green tea...gave me some caffeine (much less) and the "morning drink" fix.  And now I have finally (after this terrible bout of heartburn) switched to caffeine-free green tea per the gastro doc...a slow transition helped!!!   I'm so proud of myself.  Like you, I was so addicted.  My husband can't believe I did it.  He continues to drink his coffee daily, but it doesn't bother me as long as I have my caffeine free green tea!  And I'm so happy I get those extra antioxidants to fight off cancer! 

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    I am with ya Dance Sista LOL

  • equijen
    equijen Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2012

    I'm new to the boards but find them very helpful.  I can't believe how many people are going through the same thing. I'm almost halfway through my chemo (4 weeks of AC, 4 weeks of T; dose dense). I thought I was tolerating it all so well but after my third treatment I've got horrible mouth sores to where I can barely swallow or move my tongue.  I get my treatments on Thursdays and by Saturday/Sunday I'm so nauseaus that I can't eat and all I can do is lay on the couch.  I'm dealing with the nausea but would love to know if anyone has additional ideas for dealing with the mouth sores, other than swishing with baking soda/salt/water.  I do have a prescription mouthwash which helps (basically numbs everything) but it doesn't last long and tastes awful.  Best of luck to everyone!

  • sandik
    sandik Member Posts: 482
    edited May 2012

    equijen,

        Do the baking soda/salt rinse after every meal, then follow it with your magic mouthwash. That worked like a charm for me. I was using biotene mouthwash. Call your MO about the nausea. You should not be sick! They give me meds in my port to prevent it and they also gave me two anti nausea meds by prescription that I can take at home if needed. You will have a crash day. I do AC and my treatments were Wednesday. Saturday was my crash day. I would sleep all day. But I was not sick!

    Stacie,

    Have not had coffee since the first day of chemo. It just does not taste right to me. Boo! But, the DD coolatas taste pretty good! haha

    My stomach issues are finally over! Yay! Yesterday I came down with something. Not sure what it was. I was really really tired and had a slight fever going. When I got home last night I took a bath and got in bed. Hubby left me alone in the bed with the new puppy who got fixed yesterday. I guess he figured we could lay and be miserable together. haha  I must have sweated it all out. When I woke up the sheets stunk. Whew! I had to throw them in the washer before I left for work. I feel much better today. 

    Hope you are all doing well!  

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited May 2012

    Hi all! Just popping in to provide some helpful links:

    JJames -- there's a great page on the main Breastcancer.org site on Eating When You're Dehydrated -- may help with the monotony of drinking water constantly!

    Equijen -- Welcome! There's some good information for you too at the main BCO site on Mouth and Throat Sores with tips to help manage them and also on Eating When You Have a Sore Mouth or Throat

    Hope this helps!

     --The Mods

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012
    Equijen - you could consider chewing on ice chips during your chemo, if it is ok with your onc.  The theory is the cold keeps the blood flow down to the mouth and thus less chemo goes to the mouth.  I did a better job with the ice chips on my 2nd round and had no incidence of mouth sores (I had a few get close to developing on my first round - sore areas but no actual open sores).  I did get thrush both rounds, but that was due to my white blood cell count dropping quite low. 

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