March 2012 chemo

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  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    You know how they say everything happens in 3 - so the positive thing out of this is the 3 bad things have happened so my Daddy should be good for his heart surgery next week!

    Hugs to everyone who needs one!  I am personally having a glass of wine!  LOL 

  • hopeful123
    hopeful123 Member Posts: 191
    edited May 2012

    On vacation- OMG. That is terrible. I am so sorry to hear about your friends.

    Lanagrave- cheesecake, ummm you are making me hungry. I am back into the food cravings phase of Tx

    Kltb04- I have also not got m periods yet. Only 24 days out but the last few were 21 days apart. Also ultrasound results showed everything was fine with uterus and ovary. When are you planning your up trip to New Orleans. I can't decide if I can do a vacation as I am not sure what Taxol holds. Monday is your last AC! Yeah one phase nearly done.

    Masserz- thanks of the hair tip.

    Sissydi- isn't Monday your first Taxol- herceptin. Hope it is much easier on you.



    Finished tx #3 last week. Could not do much for three days and was catching up with work for the rest of the time. Things feel under control today. So back to posting.



  • Yvyc
    Yvyc Member Posts: 13
    edited May 2012

    Hi all! Had my 4th and last TCH last Thursday!! Was so excited totally forgot about the SE :) don't I wish! Had a rough time the past few days, a bit better today. However, I've been getting hot flashes the past three nights. Is this normal? Hadn't had them before, but also haven't had a period since my first tx. Just wondering if anyone else has them too? Is there anything you can do about them?

    Thanks for any advice!

  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited May 2012

    Tx 4...check

    wiener in dirt...check

    tamoflaxin (or whatever the hell it's called) rx on hand...check

    Funny thing for the day, pharmacist (who cares about spelling right now) was telling me about taking tamo.  he warned me it may cause some hair loss.  I responded BWAHAHA!  I laughed most the way home.

    Love to everyone.

    Sorry about your news onvacation and about your dad, hope his surgery goes well.  During my cancer saga both my mom and SIL had strokes and my grandma just had to have a pacemaker put in.  Fun.

    Well I am off to take my weiner out of the dirt and put it in bed. 

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited May 2012

    Yvyc

    Congratulations on finishing TCH!!! Alot of the gals here are experiencing hot flashes due to chemopause that I'm sure will chime in on how they feel.  I'm not much help, haven't had a period in a year and a half and have been there done that. 

    I may have mentioned this before but a friend of mine swears by a pillow thats called a Chillow which you can find online.  Its a cooling pad that  you slip under your pillow and every time  you flip your pillow to the cool side, it starts working to cool the hot side, so the result is you always have a nice cool pillow.  Sleeping in cotton helps and of course having a fan of some sort cools you off somewhat.

    tellie

    Welcome to the Tamoxifen train! 

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    Horrible day here.  After poking and prodding on the rib area where I have the discomfort/slight swelling, I found a lump last night.  It is movable and I am hoping it is just a cyst or a lipoma or something but I am beside myself with worry.  After putting 3 calls into the MO office for a nurse to call me back, I finally talked to one, just to be told that they would note it in my chart and I could talk to MO about it when I go in for chemo Monday.  Common sense tells me that nothing tumor wise should have grown there from the time I had the xrays in April to get that large...and that my chemo should be keeping anything cancerous from growing.  I just am sick about this.  I have to get through 4 days of wondering what she will even say/do including a school picnic tomorrow and my mom's birthday on Saturday. 

    I read 20 pages of posts last night where people have posted about lumps and things and they almost always were benign but the stress is too much.  I just cannot deal with the constant uncertainty.

  • hopeful123
    hopeful123 Member Posts: 191
    edited May 2012

    Kltb04- don't worry. This is your good weekend, no time to waste on these thoughts. Before my BC diagnosis, I felt a lot of lumps on my left breast. Turned out my left was perfectly fine. The right had the cancer, which i didnt feel until they told me it was cancer. So wait till you see the MO Monday. Along the same lines I feel lumps on my reconstructed breast. PS told me it was fat necrosis, doesn't stop me from feeling them every now and then and wondering. This is just like dark thoughts. They do come but we have to stay positive and keep moving forward.

  • Amymomto5
    Amymomto5 Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2012

    Hello everyone, just checking in.  Been off the site for awhile, crazy busy.  I think part of me just wanted to forget about bc for awhile, also.  I am still losing eyelashes despite my one chemo treatment... weird. And hair regrowth has been pathetic.

    Found out today I have been walking around for 2 weeks with a broken right arm!  I was trying to loosen a shelf by ramming upwards with my arms, and I tore the ligament and some bone off the radius of my right arm. Seeing an orthopedic doctor tomorrow to see if I need surgery. It's always something!

    Hugs to all still finishing chemo.

    Amy

    PS, Karri we still need to have lunch.  Love your avatar! 

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2012

    kltb-try not worry!  I know that's hard, sending you positive thoughts!

    I've almost scared myself today.  Somewhere I found some motivation to clean out closets and reorganize.  I'm even getting rid of stuff! Now if I can keep it up, maybe I'll have a yard sale to get rid of this crap I thought I needed at one time.

    Hope everyone is having a good day!  You have made me hungry for cheesecake, but alas I don't have the ingredients to make one and it's too far to go get one. 

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited May 2012

    klt

    I know its hard not to worry. Hopefully the MO can shed some light on Monday.  Hang in there

    lost

    Its amazing how much crap we hang onto isn't it.  I did some sorting but stil  have a bit more to do yet.  Last week I did the front h.all closet, got a whole bad of shoes that were essentially garbage.  Why did it take me so long to do that? Today was a cupboard where I keep plastic containers, shopping bags etc.  Now I can actually find stuff and  see whats in there!

    mmm cheesecake.  I'm proud to say I didn't have one chocolate bar all week!

  • Masserz
    Masserz Member Posts: 92
    edited May 2012

    Amy it's so awesome to hear from you! I completely understand about needing some space from all of this! Even though I was still in treatment, there have been days that I've designated as no cancer days. I'm so sorry about your arm! I hope it's not too painful. I broke my arm several years ago (tragic bowling accident) and didn't ge tan X-ray for a month. If it's not a huge break it's really hard to tell whether or not it's just a sprain!



    Kltb, at least you have a busy weekend ahead of you to distract you!



    You guys are making me feel bad! I have so much organizing, etc. to do and I just can't find the energy or the motivation. Hell, my Christmas decorations are still sitting in a pile in the garage waiting to be packed away!

  • slak
    slak Member Posts: 179
    edited May 2012

    Kit - I had same thing happen...turned out to be a cyst.  It is hard not to worry, but try to hang on to the thought that the majority of lumps/bumps are benign.

    Seems like everyone is losing weight...I'm gaining a ton.  Well, 7 lbs so far since the start of chemo and its not water weight.  I'm ravenous all the time.  Before chemo I was never hungry...probably in part due to anxiety of Dx.  I was down to near my high school weight.  Now I can't stop thinking of food, even when my tongue feels like sandpaper.  And I all I want is stuff that is bad for me...sugar and fat.  Am I the only one?  I hope these cravings end when chemo ends or I'm in trouble.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    KLT - sorry you have to wait till Monday, but like everyone said try not to worry!  I know that is hard.  Sending healing vibes and happy thoughts your way!

    Kim 

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited May 2012

    Masserz

    Don't feel bad. These are little jobs that took no time that I should have done ages ago.  In a weird way since being DX I tend to get to these things now vs procrastinate like I used to.

  • tc9876
    tc9876 Member Posts: 136
    edited May 2012

    Yvyc:  I too get hot flashes.  However, I did start getting them when I was pregnant with my son (age 34).  However, they have increased in intensity since starting chemo.  Funny thing is, I can go a week without one and then have them every night for a week.  I truly believe, although I have no proof, that dairy helps them to come.  Just keep a fan on you.

    Slak:  I have also posted about my eating binges.  I lost quite a bit of weight after dx due to stress so, fortunately, i needed the weight that I gained.  However, I crave simple carbs which is sooooo not good for me.  You should stay away from the junk as well.  We both have to take the best care of ourselves.

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    Thanks all - I am pretty much still in obsession land but resolve to not "mess with it" the next few days and see if the swelling will go down so it doesn't present any worse on Monday...if I keep at it, I will break a rib myself...

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2012

    Slak- I have gained about 5 lbs since chemo started.  Not going to complain though I needed to, I had lost too much over the past year.

    Going to head to town today to meet up with an old friend and hang out.  I get tired of hanging out on this all male farm. Even the pets are male.

    Have a great Friday!  I think it's Friday. LOL 

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited May 2012

    klt

    Hang in there baby!  Monday will come around very soon. I know its hard not to stress and I think we will all stress about such things for many years to come.  If anything it will make us super diligent about getting things looked at that we may have blown off prior.

    Lost

    I wonder about how long the steroids hang out in our system. Today I'm up like 3 pounds since DX but I can swing 5 pounds either way depending on if I'm holding water or not even before DX.  I was so proud of not eating anything sweet all week but I made a banana bread last night and had a nice big piece.  Hey, its got fruit in it right?  LOL!  I do reduce the butter it calls for along with the sugar and use 1/3 whole wheat of the flour it calls for. Have tried with all whole wheat and it tastes like crap.  I only make it once a month or so when I need to use up the brown bananas.  I used to add ground flax seed too but now with being ER+ I don't do that anymore.

    Well lets all enjoy our long weekend.  I know its Memorial Day in the US for us in Canada its Victoria Day. More affectionly know as 'May 2-4. It was always celebrated on May 24th, but at some point was changed to the 3rd weekend in May. The 2-4 part comes from a 24 case of beer to celebrate Queen Victoria's Birthday I guess LOL!

  • Buddhahead
    Buddhahead Member Posts: 66
    edited May 2012

    Hello all - I was posting on here a few weeks ago but found sometimes it started to depress me more. It's so sheeety to be on this train. My OD decided that 4 treatments of TAC was enough, the tumor shrank, the lymph nodes are more pliable and I'm ready for surgery. I'm so very relieved to be done with chemotherapy. Now I'm scheduled for surgery. Do I really need the mastectomy now that the tumor has gone down? Seems so barbaric to just go in and lop them off. 

    Yvyc-- Yes, I've been having night sweats since my chemo began as well. The TAC put me into chemopause and time will tell if I'll start my cycles again. There's a chance and since I've been fairly regular all my life, I wouldn't be surprised even though I'm 51. Back to the sweats, I feel I'm now pretty estrogen depleted and the night sweats are part of that. I started taking black cohash with the doc's blessing and it may have helped some. But of course, I have to remember to take it. :) The doc also gave me a prescription for Estring, a low dose estrogen to help clear bacteria from the vagina. It's a ring you put in like a diaphram. I think it is helping. 

    Has anyone else had back pain in the right side just near the end of the ribs? I'm thinking it might be liver pain as my liver continues to detox. Wondering whether to call the doc or not. I'm not yellow, but I am retaining some water and am fatigued more than I should be 3 1/2 weeks out from my last Tx. Thanks for any responses/opinions.

    Have a good weekend everyone! 

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited May 2012

    Hi Lynn

    I can't speak to the back/liver  pain but I was having issue with leg pain/soreness up until this week.  I'm just ahead of you at exactly 4 weeks PFC and the soreness has pretty much subsided.  I think the steroids hang out for a bit mind you.  I too waiver with the 5 pound issue but I have to say I weighed my self just a while ago the 5 pounds is gone (for today anyway).  I just started Tamoxifen last Saturday so whether this has anything to do with it or the dropping of my chocolate bar habit and increasing my activity, who knows.  Likely all of the above.

    You should call the MO though to put your mind at ease.

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited May 2012

    Hi Lynn

    I can't speak to the back/liver  pain but I was having issue with leg pain/soreness up until this week.  I'm just ahead of you at exactly 4 weeks PFC and the soreness has pretty much subsided.  I think the steroids hang out for a bit mind you.  I too waiver with the 5 pound issue but I have to say I weighed my self just a while ago the 5 pounds is gone (for today anyway).  I just started Tamoxifen last Saturday so whether this has anything to do with it or the dropping of my chocolate bar habit and increasing my activity, who knows.  Likely all of the above.

    You should call the MO though to put your mind at ease.

  • fedfan
    fedfan Member Posts: 44
    edited May 2012

    I just had my 2nd DD Taxol on Monday, and just like the 1st Taxol it is kicking my ass. Muscle and bone pains are terrible. Taste buds are more shot than ever. I wish I could say that Taxol is easier than the 4 rounds of A/C, but I can't. 

    Also on Day #3 of Taxol, my throat was really swollen and the glands in throat area extremely tender. My throat was visibly swollen on the outside...bullfrog-like! Any suggestions about how to handle Taxol SE's? I've tried looking through topics about Taxol, but it sounds like most people find it easier than A/C. A/C was no walk in the park, but Taxol is horrible. No energy to do much of anything. At least with A/C, I had some energy in me.

    I described SE's to my MO on Monday. She listened and said it sounded like I was doing really well. I guess anything other than dead is doing well. I hope those of you already on Taxol are doing better than I am. 

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    Happy Friday ladies!  Anyone have anything fun planned?  I am doing exciting things like getting my car inspected and grocery shopping!  It is already getting so hot here, over 90 today, that it is too hot to be outside with a wig on.  Time to rock those straw sun hats!

    Hope everyone has a good evening.  

    Hugs to all that need one! 

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    Kim - wohoo - sounds like fun times.  Do y'all still have to do car inspections to get your car tags renewed?  AR doesn't anymore - good thing too, you should see the crack in my van windshield.  I hear you on the hats. I wore my wig all day yesterday but I was just in and out...I about ready to change those vacation plans to somewhere cool but that would be a bit far to drive. 

    Lynn - ugh on the pain - I guess I would say follow the 2 week rule or obsessively research on the internet like I do ;)  I would say your fatigue is likely still just chemo still leaving your system.  Call to the MO might ease your mind though.  Is it constant?  My pains that I get (besides my vague discomfort) are all random and "sting-ish" - I have read that could be nerve pain?  

    fedfan - so sorry you are having such issues with Taxol - I know lanagraves started a thread asking about it and there are a couple on that one that are having just as bad or worse SE than A/C.  I am going to be on taxotere which is related and some have switched to during Taxol - might be worth an ask.  When I asked my chemo nurse the difference she said to ask my MO and I haven't had a chance...she said the only thing she knew was that they were equally effective but Taxotere tended not to incur the initial allergic reactions that Taxol might. 

    MLB - glad those 5 lbs are gone again...props to you for doing so well with your eating (says the girl with the hostess cupcake, ;) )  

    lost - hope you had fun with friends yesterday escaping the farm for a bit.

    Trying to not to obsess too much here - I have been taking 1/2 a xanax and it does seem to take the edge off without zoning me out.  Yesterday, I went to awards assembly for youngest dd school and then in lieu of the picnic took her shopping for some summer clothes and out to Chick Fil A.  This is their second picnic in 3 weeks and the park they were going to is about 2 miles from our house, no shade and little equipment so she liked her alternative.  She got 3 new outfits, a swimsuit, some art supplies and a toy out of the deal, Then DH took her to see The Avengers.  He was going to go with a friend who backed out, my bro (who is his usual bromantic movie date) had seen it, so he needed someone to go with and she said sure why not!

    On the picnic, I just didn't want to be out in the heat first of all and I also didn't want to go through all the "how ARE you" conversations with other parents and teachers.   Everyone I walked by yesterday, up to and including the principal, gave me that sympathy look and arm touch. I am so not good at just saying "fine" when I really want to say "well, I found this lump on my ribs and I am really worried about it and so yeah, not so great"  Which of course, I don't.  I am awful, I know.  These are good people and I know they are concerned but I just don't want to go into my health with everyone I pass in the halls.

    Every time I go to the school, it just reminds me of what was.  Don't get me wrong...as I said before subbing was not my bag but when I did it long term last year, it was my life for awhile. Plus I have been volunteering at the school ever since my oldest started even before I worked there so I pretty much know all the teachers and staff.  And every time I walk in that building, I think "this time last year, I was in so and so's class and life was normal". 

    But on the flip side, I was so mad/hurt/upset last year that I didn't get a full time teaching job.  They had some openings and I didn't get an interview (as with all things sometimes it's not what you know it's who you know around here and what coach's wife needs a job, or so and so's neice just graduated, you know).  But then I think, if I had gotten my first full time teaching job in years and then had to quit or go on long term leave in February, how awful would that have been.  So, in a way it was fate, providence, something (I don't use the old "God's will" thing because I don't think it is God's will for anyone to get this dreadful disease but that is a matter for another thread).

    Ok, that's all for now - birthday party for my mom later today.  Just us and bro/sil/kids so no need to put on fake feelings for them.  My mom and SIL get to hear me obsess and reassure me on a daily basis :)

    I bet after reading this y'all are thinking "damn, it's better on the days when she is out of her mind with worry and doesn't want to 'talk' and type out these novels in post form...." Tongue out

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    Tags are separate have to mail those in. Sitting waiting now for my inspection they said 20 mins but have already been here 30 mins! Oh well .



    Enjoy the day mates!

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    Ugh - I hate waiting...I am so used to waltzing in places - even my drs appts.  I had to wait about 10 minutes to go in for labs a few weeks ago and nearly lost my mind. 

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    I too think about last year at this time, yada, yada.... last year, DS#2 was graduating high school and I took two weeks off to clean and get the house ready for my family's visit, and we watched the Casey Anthony trial while I was scrubbing the walls.... planning his grad party.... I've been afraid to go too far down the line of thinking that was normal and nothing is normal now. It's been easier just to do without thinking; but sometimes all we have seems to be time to think. Doing something like getting a car tag or paying a bill, even though it isn't something I enjoy, makes things seem more normal. But waiting for anything never gets easier.



    Kltb04, I like the way you spent yesterday with your daughter. Funny, while my boys were social kids, they never enjoyed stuff like school picnics as much as I did! I think because by end of year, they were done with anything school-related.

    I've heard The Avengers was really good - hope they liked it!

    *sigh* DS#1 thinks he got Ds in both classes he took this past semester, which means they won't transfer or count toward completion of his associate's. I am trying to let him deal with the situation, and he knows what to do - but he always procrastinates, and it is hard for me not to jump in and fix things. And DS#2 applied to transfer to CSU in Fort Collins, waiting to find out if his application was accepted. It's what he really wants, and I've told him if he did the legwork and got accepted, that he should go and not let my health situation stand in the way. He'll have to work to pay for the difference in tuition and living expenses, which I tell myself not to feel guilty about, and which he says he understands. I'll miss him - the town is only about 1-1/2 hours away, but he doesn't have a car - and he really wants to get out on his own. I understand that - I was in his shoes once, and when I left home to go to school, I never really went back. But I just wish everything was "done" - that he was accepted, had a place to live and a job, and was registered for all his classes... and that DS#1 had already gone to his advisor and taken care of everything....

    Neither of them blames the BC for anything, which is very mature of them, but they have to be strong for both me and their dad, which breaks my heart a little.

    So it was really great to hear the two of them and DS#1's gf all playing video games last night and laughing like little kids.

    Yikes, this is a long post, too.

    I hope we all have the best weekend possible! Hugs and purple energy to everyone.
    .

  • Buddhahead
    Buddhahead Member Posts: 66
    edited May 2012

    Thanks for the responses re: my back pain. An update--after my run yesterday I was in some pain but I figured the benefits outweighed it. Running help keeps me sane. Got home leaned on the counter and heard a pop sound with an ouch feeling in my lower rib. Got X-rays late yesterday but pretty sure I cracked a rib. Must be the bone mets making them weak. Just one more reminder of this whole bc thing.



    I love hearing about the kids stories whether the kids are 7, 17 or older. That's one thing to take our minds off of this. Thanks for sharing them. I totally understand the sympathetic stares and the lingering hugs. People mean well but sometimes it's too much.



    Sometimes i'd like to respond to how are you with-- well I've had chemotherapy, my bones are cracking, I'm going to have a mastectomy, my body has no freaking estrogen anymore, and I'll probably be having radiation in another month. Other than this whole cancer thing I'm really great. And you?



    I have to say that I usually just say I'm fine and smile and nod.



    If I look at it one way it can be pretty humorous. It's our choice how we all deal with this and some days I can be upbeat and optimistic while other days not so much.

    Indigo-- any regrets on the prophylactic surgery? I'm opting for that too. Will you be on tamoxifen afterwards?
  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Hi Lynn!



    No, no regrets. I made up my mind after understanding the cancer on the left side wasn't tiny, and because the surgeon said with the BMX, it reduced the risk of BC recurrence from 10 percent to 1 percent. My final path showed my right breast was healthy but I am not sorry. I haven't had recon yet - that's after chemo and rads. Unless I change my mind; frankly, I'm not sure I want to jump into more surgery, but all in time.



    And yes, my MO says that since I hadn't gone through menopause before starting chemo, he'll want me on tamoxifen. I think he said two years.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Lynn - are you taking any treatment especially for your bones?

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