May 2012 radiation

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  • BLinthedesert
    BLinthedesert Member Posts: 678
    edited May 2012

    Elaine -- hope all goes well for you this week!!

  • Dizzy215
    Dizzy215 Member Posts: 74
    edited May 2012
    BLinthedesert - no, its not any of my 'team', in fact they have all been super positive, it's well-meaning relatives, who, instead of thinking of me as a fit 50 year old, seem to think I'm frail and infirm Frown Grrrrr!!!! 
  • BLinthedesert
    BLinthedesert Member Posts: 678
    edited May 2012

    Dizzy, ahhhh ... yes, those folks.  I get both, the "I have had a lot of biopsies too", and the "are you sure you can go to work"

    I am sure, in your case, that they are just worried about you and it is their way of showing it -- not an attempt to undermine your strength. 

  • Spokanellie
    Spokanellie Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2012

    Dizzy - My first day went okay too, but longer than I expected with xrays, photo and more markings - ugh! So much more "in my face" than the 3 teeny tattoos. Now I have a green "L" in my cleavage and a big black "X" just above my lumpectomy scar, both covered with tape. I'm allergic to most tape, so it'll be interesting to see how long this will stay on.

    I agree with your rant, dizzy. I'm lucky that I haven't experienced it, but I can sure see how negative that would feel.

    mckenna - I think my last one is June 29.

    The RO nurse gave me a big bottle of alcohol-free aloe vera (3x a day) and a small bottle of Emu Oil (1x a day). I had a few questions, and the RO made time to see me even though it wasn't his normal "management" day. I appreciated that!

    All others this week - good luck. I'm going to start thinking of the treatments as "happy rays." How's that? Laughing Cool

  • mckenna
    mckenna Member Posts: 413
    edited May 2012

    so far so good. today was much more how i had expected it to be.  i pulled into the parking garage at 7:55 and was back in my car at 8:14 (and my appt is actually suposed to be at 8:15 :) ).  my arm pit feels sore, kind of like a bruise but i am not sure it is from the radiation.  since i am still dealing with this adema from surgery (that could last for months), i usually lay down for about an hour after work and go to bed early so that there is less pressure but i coundn't last night so the arm pit pain could be because i needed to rest it more.

  • BLinthedesert
    BLinthedesert Member Posts: 678
    edited May 2012

    Spokanellie -- when are you supposed to use the emu oil?  Last thing at night?  Hopefully you will soon get into the "routine" and it won't be as onerous - I think the sharpies they use are extra permanent, it takes forever to wash them off!  Happy rays are good!

    Mckenna - sounds like you are settling in, that is so good!  How did the ballroom dancing go??

  • Joanne_53
    Joanne_53 Member Posts: 1,477
    edited May 2012

    Spokenellie -- I had 4 tattoos and never had any markings accept from one tech that was filling in on ONE day -- she marked me -- I was so angry -- to me I would rather have the tattoos, they are very small and not noticeable at all.  The markings were like a big X on my chest and made it more visible to me.  I actually felt degraded with them. 

    My question would be "can you not see the lumpectomy scar?".  Do they really need to put an X over it. 

    Those are my thoughts anyway.  I am finished ... yesterday was my last day ... 25 treatments.

  • BLinthedesert
    BLinthedesert Member Posts: 678
    edited May 2012

    Joanne!!  Congratulations on finishing!!  YEA!  How are you feeling?

    I hear you on the scar, mine is HUGE, I have thought the same thing -- can't you see that?? 

  • mckenna
    mckenna Member Posts: 413
    edited May 2012

    yeah joanne!!!!!  so excited for you.

    thanks for asking BLinthedesert, my son's group got the bronze medal last night but it was just so amazing to watch these 10-12 year olds ball room dance.  they could all dance better than i. 

    they have a big circle drawn around my lumpectomy scar, and i thought the same thing, can you really not see that?

    those of you taking tamoxifen, have you started yet?  my MO said to start it 2 weeks after rads, which i am happy about, i like to put one thing on my plate at a time :).  so i am going to start july 1, i thought that would be as good a date as any.  last night i realized by the time i am done with tam. my oldest will be able to drive a car and my youngest will be 6 months shy of a teenager, life is going to be so different at that point, i think i wil have just as much stress as i do now, but for very different reasons :)

    are you guys upping your water intake during rads, i am now drinking  3 32 oz water bottles at work and more water at night at home, i feel like i am going to float away.

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited May 2012

    Congrats Joanne...now you can live your life without appointments every day/week.

  • Joanne_53
    Joanne_53 Member Posts: 1,477
    edited May 2012

    Mckenna - I started Tamoxifen the day before rads -- no side effects what so ever -- everything is good.  I was tired from rads so see if my energy comes back now. 

  • BLinthedesert
    BLinthedesert Member Posts: 678
    edited May 2012

    mckenna - I think drinking more water is a great idea, although I think I will actually be combining that with electrolytes -- too much water is not good either (because it dilutes the natural salt balance in your body).  I use this stuff: http://www.emergenc.com/index.php/products/specialty/electro-mix, one packet lasts 3-4 days for me ...  Congratulations to your son -- I can only imagine how cute that was!

    Joanne -- so good that you are side-effect free from Tamoxifen.  I am glad that was one decision I did not feel I had to make!  Hope the fatigue ends soon!!

  • mckenna
    mckenna Member Posts: 413
    edited May 2012

    thanks for the link, i will look into that.

    joanne, about what week did the fatigue start?

  • Joanne_53
    Joanne_53 Member Posts: 1,477
    edited May 2012

    mckenna - I started on a Tuesday and I think it was about the next Monday/Tuesday --- after about the 15th or so it settled down and I had energy again by the time I was done -- or at least not as fatigued.

    Good luck -- just pay attention to your skin and get rest and all will be good ---

  • beachbum22
    beachbum22 Member Posts: 18
    edited May 2012

    Hello all, I started my radiation the beginning of May after six chemo treatments.  Does anyone find radiation more emotionally difficult than the chemo?

  • mckenna
    mckenna Member Posts: 413
    edited May 2012

    welcome beachbum22.  i did not have to have chemo so i can't speak to that but simulation day was very emotional for me.  what is your last day of rads?  are you having any side effects?  good luck to you.

  • beachbum22
    beachbum22 Member Posts: 18
    edited May 2012

    Thank you, its good to read about others experiencing the same issues as I.  "Civilians" can empathize but you women "get it"!  My last day of rads is 6/14.  I've had some soreness as they are zapping my lymph nodes as well.  Thank you for the good wishes.

  • silviazara
    silviazara Member Posts: 111
    edited May 2012

    Hello, I agree I find radiation much more emotionally difficult. I went through chemo treatments with a smile on my face... fake smile, but a smile. Now I can't do it anymore. I cry on that table every single day.

    I am almost half way through .. 15 done, 18 to go. Last day should be 6/12. I have implants from two years ago, and the doctors warn me about a possible capsular contracture - painful, misshapen, firm breast that often requires additional surgery. I am so scared! So far I am experiencing some firmness but if it stayed like this I can live with it. 18 to go through tough, I don't know what to expect.

  • mckenna
    mckenna Member Posts: 413
    edited May 2012

    silviazara, so sorry radiation has been so difficult.  i am hoping that you don't get the contracture.  it all sucks!!!

    did anyone else's RO tell them to apply corn starch to the rad field?  if they did, i found a good way to do it. i cut the feet off of  a new pair of panty hose and filled the feet with corn starch.  i keep one in a zip lock and work and one at home.  you sort of use it like a powder puff.  it works pretty well since i was instructed to appy it 3x's a day to help keep friction with bra/clothes/skin down and especially under the boob so that no moisture sits there. 

    anyone doing something fun this weekend to aleviate stress or pamper yourself?

  • Zwoman
    Zwoman Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2012

    Starting Radiation Therapy 5/23/12.

  • mckenna
    mckenna Member Posts: 413
    edited May 2012

    welcome zwoman.  have you had your simulation yet?  how many treatments do you have to have?

  • Dizzy215
    Dizzy215 Member Posts: 74
    edited May 2012

    Well so far, so good, although 2hrs after my first treatment yesterday. my breast was so tender. Not so much the skin, more in the tissues , a bit like a pre-menstrual tenderness, only 10 x worse!  Mentioned it to my techs today but they said they had never heard of that happening after the first treatment.  It seemed to get better overnight and I managed to do boot camp wearing my extra sturdy sports bra, but again after today's treatment It feels tender again. Maybe i'm due to have a period & the radiation is just exacerbating the tenderness.....the other boob is a little sore too.

    A tiny bit pink but no skin soreness and no fatigue but then again, I'm only 2 days in!

    I definitely felt very emotional yesterday. I haven't needed chemo, so can't say which was worse, but I'm ok today and my session only lasted 10 mins.  Oh and by the way, I got the tattoos on the sides but they agreed just to mark me in the middle, so i was pleased about that. Going to book myself a massage for Friday!!

        

  • mckenna
    mckenna Member Posts: 413
    edited May 2012

    My boob feels the same but I am about to start and I still have this adema so think that is also contributing to the sore breast feeling. I would love a massage. Good for you. I am going to Chicago for a mom's weekend in August and I plan on treating myself to a massage.

  • Spokanellie
    Spokanellie Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2012

    BLinthedesert - The nurse said to put the emu oil on at bedtime. She also said it goes a long way (really oily), so I pour about 1/4 tsp on my palm, spread it around between my two hands and then smooth it all over the affected breast, from the cleavage to a midline under my arm and from my nipple up to my collarbone.

    Lotions and potions - I've been lurking on the April/May Rads thread to see what we're in for, and I learned about MiaDerm there. Highly recommended, but expensive. (4 oz about $28) The women there were ordering it directly from the company, but I found it on Amazon and I get free 2-day shipping. It arrived today, so I took it with me to my treatment for approval and the nurse said, "Absolutely! It's the very best, but we don't give it to our patients because no local pharmacies carry it." The other thread warned we'd need 4 tubes, applying it 3-4 times a day, but I only ordered one until I could get that approval. Might just order another now to have one at home and one at work.

    Anyway, the nurse suggested the best plan would be to layer the MiaDerm against my skin with the Aloe Vera on top of that 3 times a day. And at night put on the MiaDerm first again and then the Emu Oil. She said just keep layering all day long and then wash it off in the morning before treatment (10:10am most days). Then when I get to work, I'll start all over again. I also got confirmation that I should start all this NOW, preventatively, and not wait until I see pink or feel tenderness.

    Joanne - are you our first graduate??

    mckenna - I'm trying to work up to 64 oz water a day (from my usual 32). I'm not there yet, but I can't imagine getting 3 quarts! You MUST be floating!! Are you young enough you're not getting up during the night? I find even the water with my evening meds and toothbrushing get me up at 2:00 am Undecided

    beachbum22, silviazara, Zwoman - welcome aboard!

    I have a funny story about my compression sleeve (lymphedema), but I'll save it for another post. Laughing

  • KaSA
    KaSA Member Posts: 6
    edited May 2012

    Hi all. I start radiation on Monday after 8 cycles of chemo. Not sure what to expect but I hope it will be an easier road.

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited May 2012

    KaSA...my experience with rads was a non-event...was just a normal pre-BC  day...maybe I was just one of the lucky ones but the other gals waiting for their appts were the same. Most had their session and went off to work. For me, compared to chemo, it was a breeze. I wish you the same.

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited May 2012

    Spokanellie...love to hear about your experience with the compression sleeve...it's been disheartening for me...am giving up!

  • Joanne_53
    Joanne_53 Member Posts: 1,477
    edited May 2012

    Spokenellie -- I am really an April/May rad girl but check in here to see how you are all doing !!!

    When the nurse said about the emu oil -- ask about putting it from the nipple down -- my biggest reaction is just under my breast -- I put my cream all over my breast and underarm but didn't think of at the crease of my breast and body.  I do have some skin breakdown there.  I thought I was being careful.

  • mckenna
    mckenna Member Posts: 413
    edited May 2012

    i am not getting up at night to pee :)  i am 38. 

    my ro said the biggest place for break down was under the arm and under the breast, so i make sure i apply a lot of corn startch there and at night put my two creams on but pay special attention to those two places. 

    i asked about tatos today so hopefully they can do them tomorrow.

    welcom schatz

    one more day then a 2 day break :)

  • Mopsy
    Mopsy Member Posts: 49
    edited May 2012

    Well I don't want to be a crybaby about this, but I am dismayed that it hurt from the get-go.  I don't think it is psychosomatic because I really believed it would take 3 weeks to start hurting.  I can actually feel burning on 3 of the 4 sites that are radiated, as it is happening!  I go out to the car curved over to the right side.  I had an animal-like urge to get off the table on only the third day.  How in the world will I stay on the table by day 15? (right side mastectomy 2 1/2 months ago)  It is mind over matter, I know.  I am beginning to feel like crying on the table too.  Luckily the technicians are very nice, and I have no issues with the facility.

    And I will never ever get a real tattoo.  The radiation tattoos (3) are so very small, smaller than a freckle.  But the one on the breastbone, where there is no flesh, made me jump about 2 feet.  I can't imagine getting a real tattoo and experiencing that hundreds of times, unless they use novacaine.  Forget that idea!

    Regarding creams from the pharmacy: anyone getting lidocaine mixed into the cream?  My grandmother (age 96) uses lidocaine patches for her hip pain.  Seems like it would help.

    Any suggestions for a deodorant?  Luckily only one arm. Cornstarch doesn't seem to do all that much.  I found good bras, smaller versions of jog bras, but I still would rather wear a bra only on one side, if there is such a thing.  I may try cutting all of the fabric off the cup on one side and see if the band around is sufficient.

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