April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited May 2012

    @rn4babies - my brothers best friend has been fighting leukemia for 10+ years (I don't even want to think of how many rounds of chemo he's had) and the first thing he told my brother to tell me was to take the Claritin.  I got the Claritin! :)

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Pauletta, hope you enjoy your LGFB class - mine was pretty fun.  Favorite item:  the Brow Power Pencil for eyebrows.  I haven't lost my eyebrows (yet) but they are pretty skimpy from my being overzealous with tweezers back in the day, and that pencil is the bomb for filling them in!  You can do dramatic pinup brows without their looking fake/drawn on.  Also, all the best to you going back to work. 

    Wishing everyone a restful evening, minimal SEs (and something to cool off theses !@#%^&* hot flashes!  I sure understand now why everyone hates those!), and purple healing.  

  • Krazycatlady37
    Krazycatlady37 Member Posts: 40
    edited May 2012

    Do u usually do neulasta shots after taxol too? Trying to plan for that stage well ahead. And will I be tired during taxol?

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    Hard to believe we've said 1443 things to each other since this thread began. I wish I knew how many of us there are. Too many to count now.

  • chapter4
    chapter4 Member Posts: 155
    edited May 2012

    Dancetrancer...thanks for the tip on the wrist bands, never would have thought of that.



    Does anyone know if you have to continue taking steroids with T treatment?



    Btw....the experiment stretching out the steroids from 2,2,2. To 2,2,1,1. I don't think made a difference at all. I don't recommend it.

  • Husker123
    Husker123 Member Posts: 101
    edited May 2012

    Thanks chapter4, I was thinking about trying that. Good to know it doesn't help.

    I cut my hair short yesterday. It's shedding a little. Figuring it will start big time about tomorrow.

    I see my insurance denied my oncotype test. :( Guess I will be figuring out how to appeal that. I really wasn't planning on getting stuck with that bill.

    I did have a really good day yesterday. I went to visit my horses & ride! Horse therapy is a GOOD thing! Not really sure who enjoyed our ride more, me or Bubba. 

    Off to the PS tomorrow for a fill. She's a horse person so we will have a good visit!

    Hoping everyone has a good day & minimal SE's.

  • velutha
    velutha Member Posts: 102
    edited May 2012

    Krazy: I did not use neupogen/ neulasta w/ taxol. My counts were always good, though. You do get steroids- they give you a ton w/ the first taxol to prevent allergic reaction. If you don't react then they back down on the steroids. I got mine down to 8mg day 1 by taxol 3. No taper. You pay for it in crash, but the insomnia, heartburn, etc was a lot better.



    FYI all you a/c then t people, I am now day 13 post chemo and I felt like a person yesterday! Not quite myself, but almost.

    Port people: area where port was feels bruised after removal, similar to how my biopsy site felt. Not bad, but feel it when I move my arm. This is day 3 without it.



    I never did figure out how to draw a decent eyebrow, even w/ LGFB. At least I didn't lose all of mine. They seem to sprout overnight every night now.

  • mt4ever
    mt4ever Member Posts: 105
    edited May 2012

    Velutha you did not lose all your eyebrows?  I keep hoping since mine are so thin anyway that maybe I won't lose them!  Keeping fingers crossed anyway! 

    I went to my Look Good Feel Better class and was a little disappointed.  They did not show us how to put on a wig or tie scarves (though they did show us in the book where it tells you how) and then even after they called and asked me my skin type they brought the wrong kit (I asked for medium and they brought for fair skin).  Some of the products I will use but most I will not.  (The eyeshadow looked like left over rejects that they could not sell....I would never use those colors!).  Anyway, the ladies that were there with me were very nice and all of us had different kinds of cancer so it was interesting.   

    I agree with Stacie it sure would be nice to know how many of us are here but I think it is too numerous to count!  LOL 

    Here is to a fantastic day ladies!!

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited May 2012

    I am just wondering how many ounces of fluids are all of u drinking? I try to drink no less than 80oz a day hoping that is enough.

  • slak
    slak Member Posts: 179
    edited May 2012

    One of my nurses said a minimum of 64 oz.  That seemed low to me so I try to drink a lot more than that the first few days after chemo.

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    Husker-My insurance denied my BRCA genetic testing. There is disagreement in the field whether women without a family history but are young should be cut off at age 45 or 50. I am 49. My MO made it my decision under 50. The Amer Cancer Society said 50. My insurance co criteria was 45 (F'ers). Due to the many little girls in the family, I couldn't let it go inside. Along with a pos making my recurrance raise to 70% and requiring a BMX (I had a LX). So we self paid $3300. It was negative but well spent because I was stressed about that small possibility. Now it's behind me. And everyone in the family who is or has a girl doesn't have to wonder.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012
    My handouts from my onc say to drink 2 to 3 liters of water a day, which computes out to 66 to 99 oz of water.  My drinker holds 24 oz, so I try to drink at least 3 of it a day, 4 on chemo day and the 2 days after.  I have to keep track of it on paper b/c chemo brain will forget how many I've had otherwise. Tongue out
  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    Water-My onco nurse said minimum 64 oz. I shoot higher.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Mt4ever - I did actually think the makeup at my class looked like stuff they couldn't sell, either - and while I did have fun, actually they didn't show me anything I didn't already know as far as techniques. But I'm already quite the makeup girl, so I took that into account. I was going to complain about the eyeshadow color (think neutrals would be better than the sage green that was in my kit) when I did the evaluation, and I went to Chanel's website to see if that color had been discontinued - and lo and behold, it had 4 or 5 stars from reviewers. So I thought then it was just me and didn't want to be snarfy. I think your feedback is interesting, though - now I feel a little bit vindicated!



    Having said - I do love the brow pencil and will cheerfully buy another one!

  • C-squared
    C-squared Member Posts: 514
    edited May 2012

    Husker123- I would just encourage you to keep in mind that we all respond differently.  My onc has made some changes to my pre & post med regimine and I am praying that it works tomorrow for AC #3.  I am repeatedly reminded on these boards that if we are experiencing nausea like that to talk to the oncologist.., we should not have to suffer!  Husker & chapter4, I would encourage you to do the same-talk to your docs!  It comes from the heart of the women before us.  Keep fingers crossed fo me tomorrow please!

    Have great day all!

  • SadeSurvivor25
    SadeSurvivor25 Member Posts: 119
    edited May 2012

    Haven't said much in a while but I'm still here.

    Not looking forward to my third treatment tomorrow. A couple of my nails have changed colors as well. I thought they would be fine on AC, but I guess not.

    I hope all is well with you ladies.

  • Lynnbea
    Lynnbea Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2012

    Day 4 of the big D. Lomotil not working. Lab results won't be back until tomorrow. Had chemo on Monday. IVs on Tuesday and again today. Still feeling dehydrated. Blah!!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012
    C-squared - best wishes for you on AC#3 tomorrow!!!!  I surely hope the med changes = minimal SE for you this round!!!  
  • sandik
    sandik Member Posts: 482
    edited May 2012

    Sitting here eating my sandwich that I cannot taste and drinking my tea that I can. haha Im so afraid to eat anything spicy or fruit after my ride on the D train. So, Im stuck with stuff I can't taste. 

    Stacie, that sucks that your insurance would not pay for the testing. I hope that since I am 41 they pay for mine. My bills are starting to come in. Because of my stray node, the MO wants to see me every time I go for an infusion. Every time I see her it's a $50 co-pay, on top of everything that wasn't covered by insurance.

     I went to my niece's birthday party last night. She turned 5. She told me my hair looks like a boy, and my head is bumpy and she wants me to grow it back. But she still loves me. haha A friend of mine is in charge of the bald barbie movement on facebook. The bald Bratz dolls come out in June. I will be buying them for both of my nieces. 

     Im getting really sick of water, which is weird. It was always my go to drink. I was averaging about 80+ oz. This round I did a lot of juice and tea, which probably contributed to my stomach issues. :(

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    Sadesurvivor...I'm surprised by the nail changes on AC as well. I thought it happened just with the Taxane family, but, sadly I guess not.  :-(   

    Lynnbea, ugghh on the D train!!!  Can't believe you still feel dehydrated despite 2 days of fluids.  Wow - hope it resolves soon!!!   Perhaps the BRAT diet might help?  (Insert the standard check with your onc first statement...LOL)  I assume, though, they've already told you that.  I know I just made sure to stay away from dairy products when I was on the D train. 

  • mt4ever
    mt4ever Member Posts: 105
    edited May 2012

    Indigo - I feel the same as you.  I pretty much knew everything they went over but it was fun to meet the other ladies.  There were only 3 people including me so it was small and fun.  I got a teal green eyeshadow.  I have not looked it up, just figured it was no loss since I did not pay for the products, only my time!  LOL 

    Sade - My toenails have turned an ugly yellow but as long as they don't come off I can live with that!   

    Having a hard time getting in that much water!  I know I need to but boy is it hard, especially when you have that awful taste in your mouth!  Is everyone just drinking plain water or are you adding stuff? 

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012
    Oh Sandik, I can SO relate to the getting sick of water feeling!  And yeah...switched to juice...this was right before my first reflux flare....UGGGGHHH.  Will never do that again.  Totally staying away from all citric acid (aka pretty much all juices), caffeine, and red based sauces.  And of course anything spicy like you said.  It is so not worth the heartburn!  But, yeah...uggh on the water...gotta do it, though.   Decaf tea seems to be fine for the tummy so far...
  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    I drink plain water, decaf tea 1-2 a day, and Ginger Ale for nausea.  That's my whole list of drinks.

     I am dissapointed by the make up some of y'all recieved.  I got a big bad full of about 12 products and all but 2 we're nice and usable. 

    I am really fatigued today coming off my steroid high of yesterday.  I can't believe I worked out at 6p yesterday for over and hour and now I don't want to walk to the kitchen.

    s

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012
    mt4ever - I'm just drinking plain water.  Many women add lemon, but I'm afraid to do that b/c of the citric acid (I'm sure it's a remote amount, but I'm paranoid now).  I am drinking prune juice, which is somewhat acidic, but not as bad as something like cranberry juice or lemonade, etc.  I only drink it with meals to soften any hit it might have on my tummy.  I figure it is worth the risk to me since it helps keep me off the C train.  Oh and as I said I'm drinking decaf tea - green tea and other flavored ones.  Last night I tried a Sleepy Time version that was soooo good - honey, vanilla, and chamomile.  I read that chamomile might help settle your stomach.  I don't know if there is any truth to it, but it sure didn't upset mine...and it was yummy!!!   
  • mt4ever
    mt4ever Member Posts: 105
    edited May 2012

    Stacie - Do you drink hot or cold tea or both?  I know that steroid high can be so deceiving! 

    I have my 3rd chemo on Monday so yesterday I was feeling very good and went to my karate class last night.  When I got home and talked to my mom she about flipped out.  I said Mom do you think I am supposed to sit around waiting for bad side effects if I feel okay, I am going to do whatever I want!  I feel like she calls me everyday just to find out if "anything has changed".  I know she cares about me but this really irritates me!  I just want to continue life as normal as possible!!! 

    Climbing down from soapbox now! :)

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    Ladies,

     I know how everyone feels today about water..... Has anyone tried drinking mint water?  I got a bottle at the sotre...it is supposed to have just water and mint.  I drink the ginger ale for that nausea feeling and when I need to keep burping. 

    I had some Activan in my infusion yesterday to help keep me calm.... that stuff just lingers in my body since I still feel like I'm still a little sleepy.

  • rgina
    rgina Member Posts: 100
    edited May 2012

    Got my port yesterday, feel like I've been hit by a truck!  My shoulder and muscle area above my shoulder blade on my back hurts the port area is just minimally sore. They must've had me positioned in some crazy way when they put in the port, feels like they tried to dislocate my shoulder or I was doing some serious weight lifting while I was under anesthesia.  Otherwise the port was no big deal - checked in at the hospital at 7:30 and was home by noon eating a grilled cheese sandwich and then slept most of the afternoon.  One more thing out of the way, before chemo starts next week.  Wonder if I'll ever stop being nervous before every procedure, the anticipation makes me nuts and when it's over I want to thump myself on the head for getting so worked up ahead of time.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    melrose - I'd love to try mint water...but mint relaxes the sphincter between the stomach and the esophagus, resulting in more reflux for me...stinks 'cause I love mint! 

    rgina - sorry you are sore, but glad the procedure is over for you!  One more thing to cross off the list as DONE.  

  • Fierro6
    Fierro6 Member Posts: 224
    edited May 2012

    rgina- From the very beginning, I had HUGE panic attacks on the way to EVERY appointment of ANY kind.  I'd be nauseous, shaky, and nearly in tears.  My blood pressure would be high (for me) and my husband would have to hold my arm to steady me on the way in.  No matter what happened during the appointment, I was fine after.  I named it PDAS.  Pre Dr. Appointment Syndrome.  Giving it a name and talking about it made it better, somehow.  The PDAS still existed, but naming it gave me a bit more control over it.

  • SadeSurvivor25
    SadeSurvivor25 Member Posts: 119
    edited May 2012

    Mt4ever, I have black polish on my toes. I'm scared to see if they've changed colors. I've been giving my toe nails a little jiggle to make sure they're still intact lol. My nails has turned a greenish color near the cuticle kinda looks like i slammed my thumbs in a door.



    Melrose, i havent tried mint water but I should. The flavored water was just too disgusting to drink after my last infusion. It was hard to drink regular water as well after the 5-6 bottle.



    I could stand to lose some weight but my body is doing the opposite even with working out.

    My onc has finally approved my FMLA which has taken a huge load off of my shoulders.

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