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  • bellamarie
    bellamarie Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2012

    thanks flislander. i had no problem today lets it stays that way.. also got my drains out.. my first fill next friday..

  • CityFi
    CityFi Member Posts: 95
    edited May 2012

    Bellamarie, great to hear from you and with good news. So far the constipation caused by the painkillers was the worst thing for me. Prune juice did indeed help!

    About TE's - I'm in the clinical trial for the new expanders that allow you to expand at home at your own pace. They're bigger than the usual ones, and, man, today I'm feeling it a bit in my shoulder blade. No fills yet - the PS wants to wait until I heal a bit more since I'm a bruiser. Other than that, I can pretty much tolerate the tightness, and it gets easier each day.  

    Lisamarie - I'm on the special NYS insurance, too. Being approved for it was the first lantern on my BC journey. My mother cried when I told her.  My sister and cousin got me one of those "bed chairs" right after surgery, and it helps tons. I sleep relatively well and can adjust so I can sleep slightly on my side for a spell when I've had enough of sleeping in my back. They got it at Bed, Bath and Beyond. Hang in there!

    Dianarose - Sending you much love and light. You're a warrioress. You'll get through this. All of it!  

    Mardibra - thank you for the tips! I'll be sure to apply them. Still praying for only four cycles.

    Vballmom - That's interesting! Radiation is not an option for me - at least not now anyway - because of these TEs. I can't get an MRI or fly anywhere either. LOL! There's a group called Breast Cancer Think Tank, and ALND seems to be one of the common pet peeves. One member actually called it barbaric, and another said it should've long gone the way of the radical mastectomy.  One study that just finished said that there was no difference in survival rates between women who had ALND and did not after lumpectomy. There is one right now for mastectomies, but the results are still pending -- June I think. My gut is that eventually ALND will no longer be the standard of care - it might be putting too many at risk for complications like lymphedema with no meaninful benefit.  

    Longislandmom - Thank you so much. Like I said, I'm bummed that it wasn't the rosy picture I had for the last two weeks, but you know, it could be far worse. I referred to it in my journal as a "gilded lining." 

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited May 2012

    Well it looks like chemo for me. I am so upset. By the time I am done with chemo and rads it will be February of next yr. This totally sucks. I will have these dam expanders in forever. The thought of being bald is flipping me right the hell out. I have long hair and it took yrs to get it this long. It all pisses me off. Sorry for complaining. It has been a long day and the rush hour traffic in Boston was crazy. We were going 75 and people were flying by us. I am glad to be home in Maine in the sticks. I could not live in the city.

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited May 2012

    So sorry Dianarose. Chemo totally sucks but it's the necessary evil. As I sit here typing this my hair is fuzzy and starting to grow back everywhere. Gentle hugs to you. It's hard to except but just keep trudging through.

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited May 2012

    Markat and I went through chemo together. We can help. So sorry for the bad news.

  • longislandmom
    longislandmom Member Posts: 248
    edited May 2012

    So sorry, dianarose. The only thing I can say is that time does fly. I can't believe it is two months+ since I was diagnosed and started on this board. Take it one day at a time and those days will turn to weeks and then months! Thinking of u!

  • vballmom
    vballmom Member Posts: 426
    edited May 2012

    Dianarose, I'm sorry you will be joining us on our chemo journey. I just laid out a rough calendar and I will be done a year from next week, since I am having Herceptin, too.  We will travel together.  I hate the trip to Boston, too, although NY is worse.  My dd is heading to NH for college - a beautiful ride and she'll be playing a bunch of volleyball in Maine. 

    My girls helped me pick out a wig, and I bought two hats.  The wig will be in on Tuesday.  I am going blonde!  I was a natural brunette, but since I've been gray so many years we decided the blonde is fun and less shocking.  

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited May 2012

    Sorry about my typos, I'm still very sensitive to the meds. For those facing chemo I wanted to suggest goodwishesscarves.org. I think that's the website. They will send you a free silk scarf/wrap. I love mine and wear it everyday. It takes a couple months to come.



  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited May 2012
    CityFi - When I had my SNB, my PS said that they wouldn't even do a frozen section (to look for cancer cells in the OR during surgery) but wait for the results from pathology because they would not do the ALND regardless. She said that outcomes are the same with our without it, so they don't do them anymore. It sounds like many docs do them still, but I guess my BS is pretty up to date on this stuff.
  • lisamarie68
    lisamarie68 Member Posts: 1,235
    edited May 2012

    Diana rose I am so sorry , i wish i could do something special for you .. hugs to u and I will pray for you , 

    Cityfi I know the getting approved for that nys insurance was so scarey , i thought omg i made too much money , and i was approved .. im still so uncomfortable and going through lots of financial issues . I quit smoking and its been hard , now that im about to loose my apt car and phone due to no work and my surgery i smoked yesterday and i feel like an total failure at this point , I feel like i have no reason to be here  ... i feel totally alone as I am alone here at hme . i just dont know what to do next .. I guess first things first stop smokig again .. UGH my PS is gonna be pissed Cry

  • CityFi
    CityFi Member Posts: 95
    edited May 2012

    Dianarose, I'm so sorry you weren't able to skip to the trip to Chemoland. As another long-haired gal, I completely empathize, too. I spent two weeks in Bath, Maine on a writing retreat, and while I'm a city girl through and through, I so much enjoyed my time there and want to return. Maine definitely has its charm. 

    Lisamarie - I, too, was very anxious during the application process. In the middle of the Q&A with the patient advocate at the Breast Examination Center of Harlem, I broke down. On the one hand, I have worked since I was fourteen years old, came from a working-class family that never used any kind of public assistance and had a past-life as an advocate for keeping social welfare accessible to those in need. The idea that I now that I myself needed it and could be denied for making too much money when I didn't make enough to pay rent (I live in my parents' home) never mind health-care premiums was very infuriating and humbling. The past few years have been a struggle financially for me, too, so I empathize. I'm doing my best to take small yet consistent steps to turn it around. I will do it, and so will you. You are not alone; you have us here at BCO at anytime even when you're home by yourself.   I know it's easier said than done with all that's going on, but be patient and compassionate with yourself. So you smoked. You're human and very vulnerable right now. It's a process and, yes, relapsing in times of stress is indeed part of it. Just start again. Start over as many times as you must. 

    CookieMonster - I think that docs still do the ALND because it remains the standard of care, and they are so fearful of being sued for malpractice.  It does sound like you and I were blessed to find forward-thinking doctors.  Are you comfortable not having had it? I sure am!  

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited May 2012
    CityFi - I'm lucky that my nodes were negative anyway, but either way, I'd have been comfortable with not having the ALND. My BS is great and I've trusted her with my life 4 times already. My care is all based out of UCLA and I suspect that they are better informed than some docs not associated with research universities.
  • longislandmom
    longislandmom Member Posts: 248
    edited May 2012

    LIsamarie -  there is a cancer services organization in Sag Harbor which serves the East End and parts of Suffolk-- it's called Fighting Chance-- website follows www.fightingchange.org   another organization called www.Luciasangels.org also helps out women on the East End with cancer.  i have friends involved with both.

    They offer free services to cancer patients and, i believe, may be able to help out with some bills i.e. phone bills.  if you want-- PM me and we can exchange personal information and chat.  i'm not too far from you.  I'd love to help you figure out a way to avoid going into a financial hole on top of all you've been through. 

    as for smoking-- i quit 20 years ago...BUT as i was quitting, i occassionally relapsed.  the most important thing is NOT to be hard on yourself.  quit as many times as you need to.  just don't quit quitting.  xxo

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited May 2012

    City and Cookie- my BS wouldn't do the ALND either. She even canceled my SNB after we decided that I would do neoadjuvant chemo. A micromet showed up in my lymph nodes on my PET scan and MRI but then after chemo everything came back clear. Very confusing but I'm happy with it!



    Lisa- I hope you're doing ok today. Cancer is such a rollercoaster then throw in a major surgery and things get even crazier. I quit smoking also for reconstruction. I smoked the whole time during chemo like a dummy and only quit when I "had" to. Just try to not smoke because you know it can complicate your healing. Also I think you should talk to your PS about your pain and see if they can give you some exercises maybe.



    What an up and down ride this is. Happy Mother's Day to all the moms.

  • lisamarie68
    lisamarie68 Member Posts: 1,235
    edited May 2012

    Happy Mothers Day to evryone hope you all have a beautiful day :)

  • ppeople
    ppeople Member Posts: 207
    edited May 2012

    Happy Mothers Day to all.

    Lisamarie, keep hanging in there, all things, even bad ones change.  Everyone relapses when they quit smoking, we are all human.

    Sorry for the chemo City, vball and Dianarose.  Yet another step in this endless process that requires bravery and endurance.  I'll be thinking of you all.

    Back to work for me Tues.  When I hit the 3 week mark Wed, I started to feel some energy come back, which is good because sleeping at work is not cool.

  • bellamarie
    bellamarie Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2012

    after three weeks you felt energy.. i hope it comes soon for me i only have two weeks off work and i am 1 week plus two days out from my mx..

  • aussie12
    aussie12 Member Posts: 462
    edited May 2012

    Hi all

    I went back to work today, had to finish 1 hour early as I was too tired, just couldn't do any more. It doesn't help that I am also due for my period, just started tamofixen and just finished nicotine patches. And had a minor car accident on Friday (my fault, ran into the back of another car).

    Lisamarie I've gone nearly 12 weeks without a smoke, I suprised myself I didn't think I could go that long without even 1. If I can give up smoking anyone can. I gave up because of cancer, years ago my Dad had a heart attack and gave up smoking, why does it take a serious illness before we give up something bad that we've been thinking about doing for ages? For some people it's too late, lucky for me and Dad it wasn't.

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited May 2012

    Aussie- where else can you put the nicotine patches besides your arms? One arm pit had rads and the other had 17 nodes removed. I want to start the patch tomorrow but wasn't sure where to put it.

  • lisamarie68
    lisamarie68 Member Posts: 1,235
    edited May 2012

    Aussie , I almost had 3 months smoke free .. then due to financial difficulty i smoked , I am so mad at myself .. seems I need the patch again as well.. but its better than smoking ,

    Dianarose , I put patches on my arms u can put on chest and back .. im sure there are other placed , maybe google nicotine patches and places to wear them if that helps 

    Hugs Lisa 

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited May 2012

    Lisamarie- I bet you were a bit dizzy having a smoke after quiting for 3 months. I will have to google to see where else I can put the patch. Are you going for your first fill today? I am going for my 2nd one. The 1st went smooth so I am hoping for the same today. I asked my bf to go with me today as I am not in a good emotional state with the whole chemo thing coming up and his answer was, you know what your doing, you don't need me. I said, you are so right, I DON'T need you, and I hung up. What an ass. It is over an hour drive one way. I love how everyone says they want to be supportive until you actually call them on it. I guess it makes them feel better just to say it.

  • valerie0118
    valerie0118 Member Posts: 126
    edited May 2012

    Hope everyone who is a Mom had a great Mother's Day!

    I had my re-excision on Friday and now it is just sit and wait for another pathology report.  The worst part of the re-excision was the stupid IV in the hand and the anaesthesia.  I've had about 6 IVs over the last few months and there just aren't enough veins there.  It hurts going in, while it is in, and now I have a huge bruise in the area because they kept taking a blood pressure on that arm since they can't use the other arm.  What do people do when they have BMI's?  Where do they put IVs and take blood pressure?  You would think there would be another way.  I was told that the anaesthesia would "sting" a bit.  I felt like my arm was going to burn up and almost crawled off the table before I finally went out.  This was supposed to be a twilight anaesthesia and I really don't remember much about the surgery except for that initial horrible burning sensation....and I did recover better with no nausea. 

    I hope everyone is doing great and adjusting if they have had any pain or other complications.  I'm still a little uncomfortable but not really in pain anymore and it has been over 25 days since initial surgery.  The area where the alloderm is and my sternum seem to be the most uncomfortable but I'm not taking anything, even tylenol and I can tolerate the discomfort OK.  Today is my first day back at work.  I'm only doing 32 hours max a week which is quite a change from my normal 50 hours.  I'm actually having to keep a time sheet to keep us legal.  I have a scheduled appointment tomorrow with surgeon who is hoping pathology report is back from Friday surgery and then he is hoping to get the radiation catheter in place on Thursday.  Then Monday May 21 would be the start of radiation.  Things are moving forward.....

  • bellamarie
    bellamarie Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2012

    has anyone had terrible night sweats after mx..  i already went through menaupause so i think its from the meds.. although i am only taking tylenol now.. its so frustrating

  • rtnyc
    rtnyc Member Posts: 155
    edited May 2012

    hello again. I haven't posted in recent weeks but have been reading the posts. I want to say that my heart goes out to those who have received path results which are not stellar and need further treatment. You've come this far and are strong women, you'll get through this.

    To those of you who are going through or will go through chemo, please check out in your local area a program which is called Look Good Feel Better. Basically they hold workshops which help you how to learn how to make yourself look better so each day you feel better about yourself. All the make up companies donate prodcut and they teach you how and what to use while going through the affects of chemo; and you leave with a goodie bag of products to use!

    For me the worse part of recovery so far is that my armpits are numb and the back of my arms to my elbow (but not my forearm or hands) feels like pins and needles round the clock...not so sure how to rid of this. moving ok range of motion coming back, it's painful. Any suggestions?

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited May 2012

    Nothing but time will get rid of the numbness.

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited May 2012

    bellamarie- I had night sweats too after surgery. I actually woke up soaked. I have never had that happen before. I am pre-menopausal. The only meds I took were tylenol also. I don't have them now. It's been almost 5 weeks. I thought I was just weird or something.

  • bellamarie
    bellamarie Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2012

    dianarose

     i am glad i am not the only 1, i wake up soaked, me the bed... its uncomfortable.. have no idea what its from glad to hear someone else has expierenced this.. thanks..

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited May 2012

    Bellamarie- are you having muscle spasms at night? I finallly had to take Xanax to sleep and calm the muscle down. Maybe the whole muscle thing had to do with it. Do you have TE's.

  • bellamarie
    bellamarie Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2012

    no muscle spasams.. yes i have one te.. only had a left side mx...

  • keonghi
    keonghi Member Posts: 111
    edited May 2012

    bella I was just talking about my night sweats this morning.  I still wake up drenched 4 weeks post BMX.  I thought it was because I live in Florida but it must be our body's way of releasing some toxins from surgery.

    Update: I will have to have surgery again because cancer was found in the right breast (a surprise) so they have to take out all the lymph nodes on the right.  Ugh!  Radiation will follow because the new cancer was within 1mm of my chest wall (near the margins).  Is anyone else here headed to radiation?

    Even though I don't post everyday, I read this thread everyday.  You ladies have become like virtual sisters to me and have helped me tremendously on this journey. Thank you and (((hugs))) to you all.

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