April/May 2012 Chemo hang out
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Wildflower2828- Your sister in law will be a big asset for you since it is good to have someone there to help you. Are you driving yourself to the treatment or will there be someone with you?
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mb1024, I was told the same thing by my onc. The reason is, some of us trend the other way - the big D. I have found my pattern is big C for a day or so, then more towards big D. What I do is wait and see if I have success (usually once a day person here). If I don't, then I take Miralax, usually just 1/2 or 3/4 dose - it's gentle, and I don't get any effect from it until the next day. I try not to, b/c the big D is bad, too. I lost 6 # in 2 days b/c of it. Not fun! If I had taken a laxative prior to that, I would have been in big trouble. You just don't know how you are going to trend until you go through it.
I have a bad digestive system - has always been problematic - onc put me on a daily probiotic, and I feel it has done WONDERS for me this 2nd time around. I'm much more regular. Not perfect, but nothing like the first time. I also am a huge fan of prunes and prune juice, oatmeal for extra fiber, etc.
WILDFLOWER - call your doctor ASAP. I don't want to frighten you...gosh I really don't...but you need to get checked out. I had a partial lung collapse after my port placement. It is very, very rare, so hopefully yours is nothing more than simple post port placement soreness. However my symptoms were pain in my chest - under my breast, behind on my shoulder blade...and most telling...at the hollow of my throat. Oh and also of course shortness of breath. Mine resolved 100% with oxygen and observation the hospital - I am fine now. Again, I really don't want to frighten you, but at the same time, I would feel awful if I didn't tell you to get it checked out to be sure all is ok.
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Hi Ladies! Yours words provide such encouragement and helpful information for me! Thank you!!
Melrose, I see you are from Houston. I live in Tomball. We could help support each other! Where did you have your surgery / haivng your hemo done?
I was diagnosed April 13 (Friday the 13th ) and will have a bilateral mastectomy June 6. They will put my port in during that surgery and I will start chemo (TAC) a couple of weeks later. I am a little anxious about the whole thing. I know I am not doing chemo for another month but hope to get some insight for what is ahead by reading your posts. I am starting to eat healthier, etc. I know God will give me the strength to handle whatever I face in this journey.
However, I am most worried about how my preteen (12) daughter will handle the surgery, the side effects (especially the hair loss). My sister suggested we have a hair shaving party to celebrate the new journey and to show her that it doesn't have to be a scary thing. She suggested having my close friends bring a hat or scarf to the party for me to wear. What do you think? Do any of you have teens?
Hugs to you all!
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Wildflower: I am so sorry. Your situation is UNACCEPTABLE. Here is what I would do: 1) Call ACS 1-800-227-2345 and explain your childcare/chemo situation and ask for help. 2) Go to the school your child(ren) attend and explain what is going on and ask if there is a listserv, email group, or if someone on the PTA could help organize help or 3) do the same thing at your local church. If your treatment is in a cancer center, ask them for social work/case management support. If your treatment providers have breast cancer navigators, ask them to help you. See if you can get a housekeeper via local charity support -some areas offer it, some don't. Your kids might be able to go to summer camp for a week or two for free to get a break from cancerland.
Spend the next 24 hours finding all the help you can find. Thinking you need to bring your kids with you to your first chemo because you don't have a sitter is NOT OKAY. This is not an "I can do this myself" situation. The more help you have, the better it will be for you and your kids.
I just finished the regimen you are starting. Think of it like a marathon, but set yourself up so you only have to worry about the next 5 minutes. Get your bills on autopay, load the kitchen with your kid's favorite meals, and plan for a summer with your kids going for lots of playtime at someone else's house. With your youngest at age 5, yes, they can kind of get by while you are on the sofa, but it's sooo much easier and healthier for everyone with help.
People want to help cancer patients. Especially nice girly cancer patients with cute kids. Let them help you, and help them find out what they can do for you. The people who show up when you need them may not be the ones you expected, and that has been a wonderful experience for me -I have become closer to many friends.
One last thing: I know when we start treatment, there is this giant push to get started -you want to get started and so do the doctors. But if you don't have your ducks in a row, please don't be afraid to delay your first infusion date.
Hang in there! Time to put Momma first!
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jcgibson - YAY--- you live close!!!! I'm being treated at Methodist Hospital Cancer Center in the Med Center. All my doctors (onco/ breast surgeon/internist) all work out of Methodist; my gyno works out of Women's Hosptial. It has been great to have all my doctors in one place because everyone shares my info and plus I live 10 minutes away. You can private message me anytime if you want to chat in more detail.
Both of my children are older than your daughter (mine are 21yr daughter and 18 yr son) My son is graduating high school senior and is still home. As for telling your 12 yr old daughter, not easy. I know this website has some helpful tips on how to talk to your children about this. I told both of them that the best thing they could do for me to was to keep with their routines-- school/ social life/ home because I needed those constants in my life to stay the same and needed them to stay on track with their lives.. I told them I would physically transform- lose my hair , my breast and whatever else-- because I needed to get that nasty cancer out of me and to make sure it was gone with whatever treatments that medical science has to for me. I said to them that my mind is not ill and I am still there for them but my physical body is not so good but can get better. Both know of my treatment plan My children's response is "You are still Mama no matter what you look like!" I am still supporting them and helping them with whatever their emotional and physical needs are as I have always done. As for hair thing, I cut my waist length hair to a short bob before I had my UMX which made taking care of my hair much easier plus the change in my appearance was not so dramatic and I could handle the change to come. I still have my hair as of today but it will probably be going anytime. When it is time to get it buzzed, I will. Hope this helps.
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Kristy- I agree with Velutha and others. You should ask for help. Friends and neighbors will pitch in, and those who don't you know there werent your friends to begin with. I have a 3 year old and I am definitely not able to do much in e first week after AC. It definitely gets better after the first few days, but you will need help for the first few days.
Jcgibson- I have a 10 year old. I talk to him constantly assuring him I am doing everything I can to be around for him. Hence the chemo. He still needs to be reassured every few days. Initially he was very upset with my bald head, so I wore a cap at home and wig when I went to pick him up from school and that helped. Now that it is two weeks he seems to be fine with my bald head and i dont have to cover it. Things do settle down. -
Hail to the Velutha! Good suggestions for us all. One of my friends is doing my pedicures. Humbling, but really really good for me AND her. She wants no one but she to do them until I can got to the salon. She likens it to Jesus' experience. Made me cry. Never could have foreseen she would be doing my "feet".
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@jc: My son is only 8, but I was a teen when my mom was diagnosed. I think you should handle it the way you think the two of you should handle it. Also, I would try to get her to see a counselor at your cancer center at some point, so she can talk to an adult without worrying about what they'll think, and meet someone who she can check in with later if she needs it. The most important thing is to help her know that you'll be ok, and you want her to be ok. My son says sometimes other kids make fun of him b/c his mom is bald. I try to wear a scarf when I walk him to school. Me with no hair was a little shocking for him at first, but within a week it was old news. With a girl, and you getting an Mx, I think that would be harder than the hair. Preteen girls and boobs, sigh. It was hard to not be able to hug my kiddo after my bmx, and he really wasn't able to be careful enough to even sit next to me for a couple of weeks. Your girl is probably old enough to keep her elbows tucked in. But you heal, and then you can give real hugs again : )
Good wishes to you!
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Wildflower, You may not be allowed to bring in a young child. My infusion center prohibits it. It took a while for my body to get used to the port but it will get better. I recommend using a numbing cream for the infusion. The needle may hurt going in but if it's numb you will barely feel it. I also recommend drinking a lot of fluids the day before your infusion as well as the day of. Also, bring ice pops so you don't have to chew plain ice chips. I'm having the same treatment as you 4-A/C, and 12-Taxol. My 3rd infusion is this Wednesday. Good luck!
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Kristy,
I had no shortness of breath with my port placement, but I did have some neck pain. I figured it was due to the position I was in or how it was threaded through my collarbone or something. It did go away. There were smaller children in the infusion room when I went. Two girls. They looked to be about 8 and 10 maybe.
SaraT, what's hydration treatment? I go the following day for the shot. But I get no fluids or anything.
Duze,
I am on the AC DD x4 then weekly Tx12. I was given an option and went for the more agressive choice. Not sure what biofeedback is.
I've got 2 days until my sencond treatment. No hair loss yet.
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Sandik- No hair loss yet???? I still have mine but who knows when it's departure date will be. I just feel like it's coming soon. Oh well...... My 2nd treatment is next Tuesday.
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I'm also sending purple energy to everyone getting treatments today! I go for my port on Thursday and tx #2 on Friday. Trying to make the most of the earlier part of the week while I'm feeling pretty good.
It is interesting how different MOs (and maybe pharmacists?) have different ideas about the nausea meds. Mine gave me emend and zofran (as well as the decadron) during my tx and also take for the next 2 days, and said to take them all, on schedule, regardless of how I felt. I've seen it posted by Velutha and others that Emend and Zofran are in the same drug family and so taking both of them might not work for everyone if you are still having nausea. I was lucky enough this time that they did work for me, although I also got a scrip for compazine as a "fall back", but didn't need to take it. I've also heard that compazine works well for most people, but does tend to cause drowsiness, and the pharmacist who counseled me at my tx said not to take a sleep aid with it, if I decided that I did need the compazine.
I ran into my stylist's this a.m. for her to trim the bangs on one of my wigs and to just clean up a few more little spots that our clipper didn't get to on my head. I have made peace with all of my new looks. Got one head buff at Dick's Sporting Goods yesterday (because there is a store within walking distance of my house), but still want to go to REI because they have a much larger selection of pretty colors (like purple - I have to have that one - lol!).
I read with great interest all of the supportive comments and info today. Makes me feel so much better that we're all here for each other.
Trying not to be nervous about the port.... it has to be done....
Oh, yes, one of my coworkers set up a takethemameal site for us! I have had a hard time asking for help with that, but it's true that most people want to help - just don't know what to do. I'd suggest that too, for you, Kristy.
All the best to everyone.
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@lynbea sorry to hear about the loss of you mom.
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Hi. I just started Adriamycin and Cytoxan last Friday. This is the fourth day in my cycle and I'm still really nauseous. When does the nausea subside for most people? Thanks.
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Indigo- my Tx 2 was followed same pattern as Tx 1. So don't worry you will be fine. I just hope my 3rd isn't too bad, I go for it this Wed. Port wasn't bad either. Just felt uncomfortable sleeping in that side for a couple of days. Enjoy the good days before your next Tx.
MrsJayd- it usually gets better by day 5. I had acid reflux after that for a few days and took Prilosec for it and that really helped. -
Thanks hopeful 123 - I sure hope so! I know what you mean about tx#3 - it looks like a lot of people said that one was the worst. I guess we just get through the bad days and ride the wave on the good ones.
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Hi. Getting the port put in, for me, was unpleasant, but it gets better after a day or two. My doctor said it wouldn't hurt, but it did. I think the emotional aspect is hardest. I was stiff and uncomfortable on my right side where they put it in. It basically made me match my left side which is still recovering from mastectomy and lymph node dissection. After a couple of days I got used to it. I hope it goes smoothly for you and you don't feel a thing.
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Thanks, Hopeful.
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I just found out I will be joining you ladies on 5/21. My original appointment was to get the tour and training, but the oncologist called and asked if I wanted to do the tour in the morning and start that day. I said yes. Was that a mistake?
I will be doing AC-TH. So...what do I bring? What questions should I ask? It seems strange that I will just show up and start. Maybe I should just pack everything I think I will need and have hubby retrieve it from the car? I feel like a kid going to camp for the first time.
What about premeds? Bloodwork? Ack! Now I am nervous.
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Hi ladies,
So far doing ok after second DD AC, the emend is working much better than what they gave me last time
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Hey vballmom! I took a rolling briefcase w me to chemo. The regulars said I'd get over it LOL.
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A briefcase? I'm thinking a big-a$$ suitcase.
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vball,
I had no tour. Went in to see the MO and she said wanna start now or next week? I kinda already thought I was starting, so I said let's go now.
I went to the blood room, they drew my blood, then sent me to the chemo cubicles. The nurse explained everything as she did it.
I had my hubby, my laptop and graphics tablet, a cup of coffee, and bottles of water. I sat and edited in between pee breaks while hubby watched tv.
MrsJay, are you doing small meals? Make sure your stomach isn't empty. That was my problem. Once I figured that out, I only had heartburn.
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Indigo: are you going to be asleep? Hope so, I was, it was no big deal. But I hate my port, it's a nuisance.
Vball and sandik: that's crazy. I mean, you don't really need anything, but it's nice to at least pretend to prepare, mentally and physically. Vball, just have a useful person with you.
MrsJ, call your onco if you still have sig nausea. That's not ok, esp. For your first round. Something needs to change for your next round and maybe now. SEs are easier to head off early than to chase late. Hope you feel better soon!
Lynnbea: so sorry. Hope you're holding up ok. Praying for you.
I'm done with chemo!!!!!!!!! Port out in 7 days! -
Hello Ladies. Had bloodwork today so a little late. Want to stay with your awesome ladies.
vballmom- I got premeds for nasea and bloodwork every Monday. Just bring something to read or listen to and anything else you would want. Not knowing is tough. Just ask lots of questions.
Lynnbea Sorry I was out of loop for awhile. Sending prayers.
Stacie Hope you had fun on the water/
Mrs. J. there are meds for nausea. I was given two others besides the emend. I would make a call
IndigoMont11 Port just aches for awhile. There seems to be a pattern with these treatments. I am going for no. 3 on Monday. So I hope the SE's are just like the first two or few at all.
velutha- congrats on being done with chemo! Port out so soon? Mine wants me to wait 30 days to remove it. Go figure!
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@ velutha - congrats? Stay with us tho? we need you!
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Finished Round 1 today! 1 down 5 to go! so far it has all gone really smoothly. I know that's probably the steroids talking but I'm hoping! I have a question for everybody. We onc only gave me compazine for nausea and the instructions say take as needed but it sounds like some of the most successful people here are being told to take meds on a schedule? Just wondering if I should clarify what I should do with her.
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@ Tweety - can I ask what they gave you on the first round that didn't work so well?
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Hi Velutha and Lezza - I was told they do the "twilight sleep" anesthetic for the port placement. I had that for my bunion surgery this past December - a nice ride actually. I'm still a little bit sensitive across my whole upper chest from the BMX (nerves seem like they're waking up), but I am not letting them destroy my arm veins, so I'll be brave.
Does anyone know - will they/can they let me use the EMLA cream for my treatment the very next day? It doesn't have to heal first?
Edited to add - yay, Velutha! Hope you got to "ring the bell!" -
Hi lsharvey! That's interesting; I'm wondering if it depends in part on the particular chemo cocktail you are getting? I hope you do well no matter what.
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