January 2012 chemo

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  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited May 2012

    WooHooo!! Congratulations Anne! You did it!! Keep us updated on your surgery.

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited May 2012

    Congrats Anne!!!! 🎈🎉



    8 of 12 Taxol/Herceptin done this afternoon. Can't wait for this part to be over even though that will mean moving on to rads and estrogen sucking drugs.



    I've had such a bad cold/cough this week - wish the cough would go away and let me slep at night.



    It's Friday night here - have a good weekend everyone!!!!!



    Jenn

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012

    Congratulations, Annie!  So glad you're done with all this toxicity!  Please do keep popping in and letting us know how you're doing.

    *hugs*

  • Kite
    Kite Member Posts: 265
    edited May 2012

    Hi ladies,

    It's been a while since I wrote anything on here. I have been going to school, kids, and doing my treatments. As of next week I should be done with chemo, cross your fingers, pray, send good juju whatever you do so my counts are high enough I can have it. I've had real issues with being pushed back a week here and there cause of that. (low blood counts) Everytime I have a period I have to have a blood transfusion, that's been fun let me tell ya. I ended up having a D and C just to clear things out and make sure I was ok. My insurance company will not close my pre exsisting condition investigation so I am having to pay out of pocket for my surgery and have been on the phone with them almost every week for 6 weeks. I am about to go bonkers! I HATE united health care. 

     Anyway enough of that, I am sooo happy most of you are almost done. I am not having to do Taxol so I cannot relate to those SE. I am sorry to those who feel lousy. Lord knows I have these last few treatments. I never in my life imagined the kind of tired this crap makes us. 

    One thing I wanted to ask, has anyones hair started growing back? Mine has and I find it very weird considering I am not done....

    Hope everyone's weekend is going good. 

    Katie

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited May 2012

    Hi Katie,

    Wonderful to see you posting. I am so sorry you've had such a rough time of it. I pray your final (Yay!!!) treatement will be easier than the rest.

     Although I am doing taxol (9 of 12 so far) my hair has grown a lot more than I expected at this time. It is thin and obviously extremely short but I do have full head covering.

    {{HUGS}} to you and your family.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012

    Katie - glad to see you back!  Hope the rest of your treatments go well.  So sorry to hear about the problems with your health insurance.  I find it interesting that we've probably been carrying this cancer around in our bodies for years before discovery and diagnosis, so we're almost all likely to have "pre-existing conditions."  I hope this gets worked out to your benefit.

    My hair continues to fall out on Taxol - again, I wonder if it's the dd nature of my treatment?  I have these baby duck hairs that are trying to grow in on my head, but then they simply fall out a couple of days after each treatment.  And now my eyebrows and eyelashes are all gone - I didn't lose them on AC.  So - two more treatments, and then I'm hoping for *some* kind of growth!

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited May 2012

    Nancy I'm on weekly Taxol and my hair came out more when I started.  I have a funny little very short  grey fuzz but you can't see it unless you look really close. The grey fuzz is not coming out even if I pull on it.  I wonder if the grey hair is more resistant to the chemo?  Before chemo I had some grey but it was not noticable unless  I searched for it.  (pretty good for  68 years old).  I wonder if I will get my color back.  Always something to look forward to in life.  LOL

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited May 2012

    Sleepless and Annie - YAY!  Congrats on finishing chemo!!!  What a ride!  Annie, rest up and recover.  Surgery is doable but tiring as well.  Let us know how things are going. Are you considering reconstruction if you go the BMX route?  

    Sleepless - I am following chemo with rads.  I know there is debate about the effectiveness vs harm with rads, but I feel that I must throw everything I can at BC.  I may regret my decision down the road.  However, right now, I want to walk away from BC with the knowledge that I did everything I could to fight this disease.  I trust my MO and RO who both recommended rads.  I start this week and hope for the best.

    Kite - So glad to hear from you!  Sorry about the insurance co trouble.  Isn't it enough that you are fighting BC? Now you have to fight your insurance co.  Did you get Neulasta after tx?  As much as I hated the shot, it did keep my counts good.  I bounced back after each treatment in time for the next one.

    HAIR - I am becoming obsessed with my bald head.  I am 3 weeks out from tx and am not seeing much activity on the top of my head.  I am getting stubble on other parts of my body, but my scalp is pretty barren.  Although, if you look real close, you might find some peach fuzz on the back and sides of my head.  I'm not sure if it really qualifies as hair. Its grey and very soft. I can't imagine wearing my wigs during the summer.  My head sweats up a storm now and it hasn't been very hot yet. We are taking our whole school on a trip this Tuesday.  I can either go canoeing  or go on the walking tour of a famous DuPont estate and gardens. Both choices are problematic.  I don't have the stamina to canoe this year and am not looking forward to walking in the hot sun with a group of teenagers. Fortunately, my coworkers understand.

    Peggy - I've heard that the grey is followed by darker hair as it grows in.  I sure hope so!  While I had plenty of grey, it was mixed with red/brown as well.  I'm not ready for all grey!

    Nancy - I like your new avatar!  You look great!

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012

    Janet:  I've debated doing rads, too - still have a few weeks to decide if it's what I'm going to do.  I'm pretty sure I probably will, for the very reasons you stated - I want to know I've thrown everything at this beast and never want to look back and regret not doing more.  But that's just me - and if it comes back I might feel differently.  I don't know - and can't know - so I do what I feel is best right now.  And thanks - my DH and I got dressed up and went out with friends last weekend and I was surprised how nice I looked!  First time I had worn makeup in months, but without eyelashes and eyebrows I didn't know where to start -and stop - with the makeup.  :-)

    I have this really annoying, crappy, nasty stubble on the top and crown of my head and it's driving me CRAZY!  I think it's the last of my original hair that is trying to "work it's way out" of my scalp.  I can't get rid of it using a lint roller; a few weeks ago I ended up shaving my head again because these hairs are really thick and stiff and *hurt* whenever I put something on my head.  If I use a pair of tweezers I can pull the little hair out - it's not attached to anything.  The back and sides of my head are free of whatever this is - that's where I'm finding really fine, little sweet baby hairs, but then they fall out after tx.  So - I'm waiting patiently for tx to be over to see what my hair finally decides to do!  

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited May 2012

    Okay, hair report.  2 more Taxols to go for me.  I have the stubble on top of head, but it isn't as tough as Nancy's sounds.  All the tough stuff fell out when I scrubbed it real hard with a washcloth about 3 months ago.    On sides and back I have like a down feather gray fuzz going on, feels soft, but it is white or gray.    When my hair fell out, it turned black.  Never had black hair in my life.  Crazy stuff.

    These wigs are getting hotter. 

  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited May 2012

    I suppose I shouldn't whine, since this is the last time I'm going through this, but my SE's from this last Taxol are kicking my ass. Headachy, dizzy, chemo sick, moderate pain and general crankiness. I'm at Day 5, so this should start to pass in the next day or so. My last two Taxols were a complete breeze. It's almost like this last one is serving as a reminder of how generally unpleasant the four months of treatment has been.

     Good riddance, I say.

    Annie 

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012

    Annie - Whine all you want!  You've crossed the finish line...now it's time to recuperate.  With all the accumulation of chemo and drugs...this is probably the apex of your SEs, but then it's all downhill from there.  You won't be going back for another treatment - you'll be getting better and *staying* better.  :-)  So I'm sorry you feel so bad right now, but know that you're also on your way to healing and leaving this all behind!

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited May 2012

    Kitchenella

    My hair fell out on AC but started to grow back on Taxol (12 weekly). As you say, it came back in as grey fuzz ( I am also 68) and had dyed my hair for decades so not too sure how grey I was. Anyway it started to turn darker as it grew and I am now covered in charcoal/salt and pepper real hair. I always wondered how I was going to make the transition from dyed hair to natural, without inches of grey root, but BC was never what I had intended! Am staying this colour cause I feel kinda sexy with it. Am also going to keep it really short too.

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited May 2012

    schatzi mine doesn't seem to be growing more.  Perhaps the Herceptin has something to do with it.  Always something to look forward to in life.  LOL  ( I just realized I said that last sentence in my last post.  Hummm.)

  • denjak
    denjak Member Posts: 36
    edited May 2012

    Ladies, I am hoping someone can can help me.

    I havent posted in a while because I ended chemo on April 18. But the SE from that first Taxol ( I was then switched immediately to Abraxane) are still with me!! I walk like Frankenstein. Still can't feet the bottoms of my feet and fingertips are numb.

    I was hoping feeling would all "come back" by now and with each day I am growing concerned I will be like this forever. My doctor says feeling in feet and hands will come back and some websites (other than this) say it may be 3-4 months before this happens. Does anyone know? What are you hearing from your oncs? Best to all and thanking you in advance.

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited May 2012

    Denjak - I've heard that it might take a few months to get the feeling back in my toes and balls of my feet.  I am three weeks past my last taxol tx.  The numbness and tingling in  my fingers seems to be going away.  Not sure about my feet.  Just when I think the numbness is going away, it flares up and I am right back where I started. I was also warned that the neuropathy can be permanent in a small percentage of people. I sure hope that is not the case!

  • SleeplessIn
    SleeplessIn Member Posts: 114
    edited May 2012

    Janet,

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts on radiation. Ideally, I would like to include radiation in my further treatment, like you said, to be sure thay I threw everything possible at this stup*d cancer. I will meet with RO tomorrow and will try to keep an open mind, but I was previously told that the actual position of the tumor bed is is not favorable(in terms of avoiding beams to heart and lungs). Another negative for me is that I smoked for 23 years, so my lungs are not in the best of shapes to begin with.



    Kitchenella,

    I am 12 days out from my last Taxol, and I have no hair to speak of - just peach fuzz in grey. I sure hope it will grow out and change color, because I am only 40!!! - I wish it would grow faster, because I am tired of wearing a wig.



    Denjak,

    Sorry to hear the numbness and tingling in your hands and feet is still bothersome after completing tx. I only have mild tingling in my fingers, but I had hand/foot syndrome while on AC, and it took several weeks for the SE (pain in the sole of my feet and not being able to walk normal) to subside after my last tx of AC.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012
    Sleepless:  May I ask where your tumor was on your breast?  I've heard something similar from my RO, but then she brushes it off and says they'll "do their best" to avoid my heart and lungs, and it is giving me reason to rethink radiation treatment.  Mine was at 10:30 - 11:00 (as you look at my left breast) almost outside of what I would have thought of as breast tissue (they couldn't get it into the mammogram).  Thanks.
  • Kite
    Kite Member Posts: 265
    edited May 2012

    AHHHHH..... I can hardly stand not knowing if tomorrow will be my last treatment or not! My blood counts better be up to par. I can't stand the thought of having to wait another week to end this. I will still be on Herception but it is a breeze for me. No SE and I can have my surgery, hair, etc.

    I just had to cyber scream for a min!

    Katie

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited May 2012

    Nancy, I am sooo scared of the whole rad thing because of the long term effects too. However the stats on how much they reduce the likelihood of recurrence are quite significant and generally the benefits outweigh the risks.



    It's become "interesting" for me as I had a high number of diagnostic x-rays in adolescence due to a potential medical condition and I have only become aware in the past couple of weeks that this increased my risk for BC. I should have been getting regular monitoring from my 30's but who knew??? No-one ever told me! While looking into my rad options I stumbled on a research paper that specifically mentioned the type of x-rays I had and the risk factors associated with it - it was a shock.



    The thing is, because of that any further radiation for me now compounds the problem and I have a much higher risk of more cancers and heart problems than normal. I have emailed my updated info to my Rad Onc and am very interested in what she will say at our planning appt on the 22nd... I am pretty sure they will still think the benefits outweigh the risks but I just don't know on a personal level.



    I also have a follow-up appt with my BS next Monday and want to ask her whether with this new information she would now recommend a BMX :-(



    Jenn

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012

    Jenn:  I am just so not wanting to do radiation, I am so scared of what potentially may happen to my heart and lungs.  I admit, I am a former smoker (quit twice and will NEVER smoke again) so I know I've probably created my own problems there.  I didn't realize that past lung x-rays could cause such serious problems.  And Herceptin has its own risks too?  

    Are you considering going back and doing an MX now to avoid radiation?  Or are you asking your BS if you should have done an MX to begin with? I hope you get a "good" answer (if there is one...if that makes sense...)  *hugs*

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited May 2012

    Had to tell you ladies about the GREAT DREAM I had this morning as I get ready to go for #11 out of 12 Taxol today:

    Dreamed I was standing on my cemetery plot.  It had a headstone on it.   As I stood on it, I realized I wasn't going to need this for quite some time.   In the dream, I shoved a FOR SALE sign on the plot.  I knew it would sell because it was in a great location in the cemetery.  I knew I was going to take the money I got for it and go to Las Vegas!!

    GOTTA LOVE IT!!  

  • KristinFro
    KristinFro Member Posts: 230
    edited May 2012

    Please forgive the TMI aspect of this post -- I'll be seeing my nurse today for the Neulasta shot and will mention it as well to her, but...  I know with Adriamycin that you can pee red for a couple days after the infusion, but what about the red showing up in stools? I don't think it was blood because it was the same EXACT color of the Adriamycin. Made sense to me that if it could show up in one area, that it could show up in another. I also heard that tears could be red for a few days afterward, too. Anyway, I was just wondering if this has happened to anyone else.

    Denjak: I'm 3 weeks past Taxol and my fingers feel so much better. Still tingly, and yes the tips of my nails hurt, but I can feel things now. Sorry you're having a hard time with it, but hopefully it will get better soon. 

    2 more AC's to go. Can't. Flipping. Wait. 

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited May 2012

    Denise - What a great dream!  I hope the market remains strong for cemetery real estate and we can all put our 'plots' up for sale soon!

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited May 2012

    Speaking of dreams....I've been dreaming about my hair growing back for the past 3 nights. In one dream, I dove into a pool completely bald. I swam to the other side of the pool and when I got out of the water, I had hair! I started using Nioxin scalp treatment about the same time the dreams started. I'm either obsessing about being bald or the Nioxin is seeping into my brain and affecting my brain!

    Also, got my tattoos last friday. Start Rads on 5/17. RO went over the side effects - how the ribs will be more fragile, but he said that it really wouldn't be a problem unless I was in a car accident. And then there's the old 1 in 200 chance of developing cancer later in life. Sucks. Cancer will be the death of me - literally. Even with these stats, I'm still going through with it. Being triple negative, I don't have any other options. I do NOT want this to come back, so I have to throw everything available at it. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I didn't and then this FC came back.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012

    Denise:  AWESOME  dream!!!  Thanks so much for sharing that - it feels hopeful and joyous and full of life! 

    Kristin:  Never too much TMI, not with all we're going through and experiencing!  I feel blessed that we have the ability to talk openly and frankly about the things happening in our bodies because of all of this.  I had the red-pee thing for only about a day.  I never had any color issues with my bowels; I have a hx of UC and IBS and often have blood in my stool (talk about TMI!) so I'm used to "seeing red" - but surprisingly, all of that has stopped since I started chemo.  So no to the red in my stool on AC (and no red tears, either).  It sounds like you did your chemo "backwards" of many of us - Taxol first, AC second?  Just interesting...

    Char:  I'll be thinking about you as you go into this next phase of treatment.  I have to laugh - I saw your first line: "I got my tattoos last Friday." and I immediately thought, "Wait, I thought getting a tattoo right now was a bad idea; I wonder what she got?  Maybe a pink ribbon or a bulldog or a battleship..."  Then I realized what you meant.  Chemo brain - took me a minute there!

    Stupid cancer.

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited May 2012

    Glad you all liked my dream.  KristinFro - I had blood in my stools with A/C.  Nurse Practitioner said

    common - usually bleeding hemorroids.  I didn't want to tell them too much or they would be scoping

    me up the rear!  Didn't need that yet!  LOL!   It went away after A/C. 

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited May 2012

    I had my first infusion dream nightmare.  It was one of those frustration dreams where everything was going wrong and taking to much time.time By the time I was ready for my infusion it was to late and I couldn't find my nurse to ask if I could go home with my IV so I wouldn't have to get stuck again.  Everyone was getting ready to go home and ignoring me.  

    Today is my real life 7th TX/Her infusion day.  I certainly hope it goes better than my dream. 

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited May 2012

    Peggy - I sure hope your infusion goes better too!  What a frustrating dream!  I had a 'hair' dream the other morning.  I only remember a few seconds of the dream.  In the dream I was cleaning the bathroom.  I happen to catch my reflection in the mirror while scrubbing the sink.  I had my original hair style. The weird thing was, in the dream I really didn't like it much and thought that I should cut it all off. I woke up shortly after and immediately felt my head.  What a disappointment! 

    I am getting so impatient.  I want my hair back! I find myself behaving as if I had hair.  After putting on a shirt, I reach up to pull my hair out of the collar.  I brush my hair out of my eyes all of the time.  I reach for the shampoo when getting ready for a shower. I still carry a comb and brush in my purse.  Wishful thinking, I guess.  Oh well.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012

    Peggy:  I hope your treatment goes well (or has gone well).  What an awful nightmare!  I had a treatment nightmare once, early in treatment; I didn't remember the dream itself but remember waking up on the verge of tears, it was so sad and scary.  I'll keep you in my thoughts today.

    Off for number 9 of 10 today!  Actually excited, because after this I've only got ONE MORE Taxol to go, then done!  Unfortunately classes started again this week and I needed to take 4 credits this semester, so I have a class on Tuesday nights (notoriously one of my bad pain days), and this week I have class from 9-4 on tomorrow AND Saturday in Detroit (about 1.5 hours away from where I live) and then again next Friday/Saturday, too.  My instructors know and understand what's going on and will cut me some slack, but I don't want to be a problem child before class even starts.  So wish me luck for a steroid high for at least the next two days - I can fall apart on Sunday if I need to.  :-)

    *hugs* to you all!!

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