April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    So sorry to hear about your mom, Lynnbea. Wishing you peace and comfort.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    P.S.  I take an electric blanket and heating pad with me to my infusions to make the icing more tolerable.  It really helps!   

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012
    mb1024- I guess I must be a little weird.  The icing really doesn't bother me but maybe it's because I'm watching tv during the Taxotere part of the infusion and was distracted.  It's like sitting outside on a really cold day watching a football game-- you have clothes, coat, gloves, shoes & socks but you are outside and can't leave until the game is over.  I don't put my hands/toes directly in the ice/frozen pea bags so there is no skin to ice contact.  Since I wore some thin sports socks and had the neoprene holders on my feet, I didn't notice the rest of my feet getting too uncomfortable.  Wearing those fingerless gloves helped keep the rest of my hands warm.  I was glad to get the cold off of me when it was time and able to walk during the Cytoxan and Herception infusions.  I also have my nails painted with Sally Hansen Hard As Nails clear polish as suggested by my onco.  Whatever my onco suggested that I do to help the nails, I'm doing. 
  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012
    melrose, I'm a baby I guess when it comes to ice, LOL!  I hate to be cold!  Wah!  LOL.   I don't have skin to ice contact either, the baggie is in between.  perhaps I'll wear a thin sock next time over my nails...just afraid it won't get cold enough.  I also do the Sally Hansen trick.  Someone else told me to also paint my nails a dark color for infusion day b/c the Tax may interact with light.  Not sure if that has validity or not, but I figured it wouldn't hurt.  
  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    Dancetrancer-you can get sock liners at a sporting goods store- runners wear them under the sports socks.  It would seem to me that you aren't losing much of the coldness since you are putting your hands/feet into the insulated bags where the ice bags are.  The fingerless gloves are hard to find this time of year but they help.  The icing is definitely mind over matter!!!!!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    Thanks so much Melrose!  I have really thin socks that I wear for dance, so I'll try them!  Oh and I made my own fingerless gloves.  Just took an old pair of socks, cut off the top, and made a little hole for my thumb.  I sleep with them and wear them all the time around the house with lots of moisturizer underneath (my skin was breaking down after my first TCH).   

    You are so right - it is mind over matter with the ice.  So worth it, though!  Ounce of prevention....!!!  

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012
    Dancetrancer-  Always have to find ways to make the chemo work for us and not let make us work for the chemo. 
  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    So true Melrose.   I wore a skull and crossbones head wrap to my last chemo.  It was my battle cry to the chemo to go kick some cancer *ss!  

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    I've started to using the slush mugs I had hidden in my freezer for whatever kind of slush (icees) I want at home anytime.  I've had these mugs for my kids and started using them to have an alternative to eating popsicles/ice after my infusion at home so I could help keep those mouth sores away and as another way to entertain myself foodwise.  I saw that you can still buy them online by typing in the term "slush mugs".  You can put anything you want in them---- milk, juice, flavored water, ginger ale.....

  • mb1024
    mb1024 Member Posts: 49
    edited May 2012

    Thank you Melrose and Dancetrancer.  I'm going to save all this information.  I'm having DD AC first, followed by DD Taxol, so I should be starting the Taxol around the beginning of July.  It would be nice if the nurses in the infusion center offered to ice your fingers and feet for you. You would think they would want to prevent as many side effects as possible.  I'm going to look up slush mugs and stock up on popsicles too.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012
    mb1024 - You definitely have some time before you start the Taxol to figure out the icing!!!   There are plenty of gals on this thread that are having DD AC and Taxol regimen that have already had their first infusions of AC  
  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    mb1024, not sure if this is a repeat for you (sorry if so), but have you heard about taking acetyl-l-carnitine to prevent neuropathy with the Taxotere/Taxol?  There is a clinical trial going on for it right now.  Parameters are 1000 mg, 3 x a day (yeah, it's a lot).  I cleared it with my onc, which of course you'd need to do if you are interested in doing it.  I also take 50 mg B6 as an extra precaution.  I tried the l-glutamine, but didn't like stirring something into my drink - kind of developed an aversion to it.  Must repeat, all things must be cleared with onc!  They all have different guidelines in what they will allow.   So far with 2 TCH's, I've had an occasional "zing" in my left hand - but nothing lasting.  Fingers crossed!  

    No one told me anything about icing or supplements, etc. at my onc's office.  I found it all out here from the great ladies on bco!    I'm also doing the cold caps to try to save my hair, but most don't.  It's a big investment of money and time.  So far, so good. 

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    Sorry for your loss Lynnbea. Lost my Mom 4 yrs ago to pancreatic cancer. It was tough.



    I considerred the cold caps but shaved my head and got a maid instead. So happy about my choice.



    I take a frozen bottle of water (1/2 frozen 1/2 water) and hold/drink it shifting from hand to hand through Taxetere. More concerned w fingertips/ palms and neuropathy than nails.



    No change in nails yet..

  • Tweetyb422
    Tweetyb422 Member Posts: 119
    edited May 2012

    Hi everyone,



    I have my second treatment tomorrow (dd AC) I am more nervous ths time cause I know how bad I am going to feel.... I am taking emend this time so maybe I won't be as sick...anyone else asking that? Last time after I got so sick the called in zofran, can u take that with emend? I guess I am also more worried since i know my hair will be coming out after this one

  • luvBngGma
    luvBngGma Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2012

    Hi, thanks for starting the thread! I am Triple Negative, FEC IV to start on 5/15, then Taxotere. The MO gave me info to read on all, plus page on portacath info. We have a start time for chemo, but didn't mention details on the port. I think she said they could do the first IV, & do the port later. Should I ask to have the port first, or is the IV not that painful? Anyone else on FEC regimen for triple negative ID? What should I expect?

  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited May 2012

    Hi Tweety!  Wish I could give you more info but I do my first treatment tomorrow.  Hope all goes well for both of us!  I'll be thinking of you.

  • mb1024
    mb1024 Member Posts: 49
    edited May 2012

    Dancetrancer, thanks for the info - I'm going to check with my onc on that.

    Tweety, I start chemo this Wednesday (DD AC), and I have 4 prescriptions, including Emend, Compazine and Zofran.  I will take Emend the day of chemo, and then the next 2 mornings.  Days 2, 3 and 4 I take a steroid, and I take Compazine if I still feel sick but, if that doesn't work, I can take the Zofran.  I hope this time is easier for you. Keep drinking water during and after treatment, and walk, if you can. Losing the hair is tough.  I had mine cut very short so it wouldn't be so traumatic, but I know it's still going to be hard.  I had a wig made in the style and color I always wore my hair, but it's not the same.  It reminds me of my kids' Barbie dolls when they were young.  Good luck tomorrow.  Let us know how you did.   

  • mb1024
    mb1024 Member Posts: 49
    edited May 2012

    Hi LuvbBngBma, I'm triple negative too.  I got my port on Friday, but I'm having AC, which is supposed to be hard on the veins, and I wasn't given a choice.  It's called The Red Devil, which is not very reassuring.  I'm glad I have the port because I'm tired of being stuck all over my arm every time they take blood.  Now I have a vein on tap.

  • LittleRedHead
    LittleRedHead Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2012

    Sleepless night before first T/C chemo for TNBC .... But don't feel so alone due to this site! Will keep you posted. Thanks for all the great info! Let's get this party started!!!!!

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited May 2012

    LittleRedHead - you're definitely not alone when you're here! Best wishes tomorrow - hope you can get some sleep. Smile

  • chapter4
    chapter4 Member Posts: 155
    edited May 2012

    Tweetyb422 .....you will get through this...I'm headed to treatment 3 this week. You are right you will start to lose your hair a couple days after treatment 2...I recommend you shave it off it's easier to deal with....

    Yes you can take emend and other meds....I took the zofran with it for several days...and I have learned to stay on top of the meds to fight the sick feeling....watch out for constipation as side effect tho...I took stool softners for several days...it helps.



    Lots and lots of fluids...you may find it takes an extra day to starting coming back after second treatment because it's cumulative.



    Good luck!

  • duzebee43
    duzebee43 Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2012

    Hello everyone!

     I know I am a bit late to this discussion, but still hoping I can get in on some of these helpful posts. I too have triple negative, Sandik. I/m 36, had a lumpectomy and sentinal node biopsy (4). Tumor was 1.1cm and all nodes were clear, thank God. I just had my port put in last Monday and am feeling ok, althought the day after was definitely no fun camp.

     I am sruggling whether to go with the chemo schedule my oncologist/surgeon originally prescribed - 6 rounds of CT, 21 days apart, then radiation -- or whether to go with the more aggressive regimen of 4 AC's, 21 days apart, then 12 weekly T treatments, then rado.

    Also, has anyone ever tried biofeedback? 

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    I took sleep, bone pain, constipation, and nausea meds "preemptively" for days. Not a fan of discomfort.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    For those having their 1st infusions today--Good Luck!!!!  You have lots of support here and remember you are not alone during the infusion and after!!!  Drink, drink drink lots of water during and after the infusion to help flush that chemo through your body.  You can walk during the infusion because of the IV pole.   You may want to eat ice during your infusion to help keep the mouth sores away.  Don't worry about drinking/eating ice during the infusion, you can still get up and go to the restroom if you need to go.    Eating small meals 5-6 times a day will help keep your tummy happy.  Try to eat foods that won't aggravate your tummy ( like spicey.)  Take your meds to help with the nausea- on schedule.  As for constipation, you can also try prune juice/apple juice, Sunsweet Ones individually wrapped prunes, grapes.  If you find you aren't doing well with the side effects, do not hesitate or be afraid to call your onco.  No reason for you to suffer with side effects!!!  Ladies.... you can do this!!!

    Hoping for a great day for all and minimal SE's!!!!!Wink

  • SaraT
    SaraT Member Posts: 10
    edited May 2012

    mb1024 Maureen, I just joined this site. It looks great. I'm also triple negative. I'm going for my 3rd A/C infusion on Wednesday. I see you're also here in NJ. I'm in Morristown and going to the Cancer Center here in town. I also have a port. Make sure you get some numbing cream (lidocaine) and apply it before your infusion. I also go for hydration therapy the next day. Works magic.

  • mb1024
    mb1024 Member Posts: 49
    edited May 2012

    I've been reading on here that it's best to head off the constipation by taking something before treatment, but the RN who gave me my chemo talk said I shouldn't do that.  She said I should wait to see what happens.  What is everyone's experience with first AC?  Should I head it off or wait?

  • SaraT
    SaraT Member Posts: 10
    edited May 2012

    My first A/C chemo was fine but the symptoms after we're nausea and vomiting with constipation. HOWEVER, my Onc added Emend for the second infusion and I had NO nausea! I do recommend taking something for the constipation. I just take a daily women's laxative (less harsh) and all goes well.

  • wildflower2828
    wildflower2828 Member Posts: 22
    edited May 2012

    Hello All,

    I had my port put in on my left chest wall last thursday.  I wasn't sedated, wishing during the procedure that I was, it was more than they made it out to be.......but none the less I got through it.  Now here it is 4 days later, I am less sore, but seems like I get shortness of breath a lot now, and a pain in the center of my chest that kind of goes up to the base of my neck, has anyone else had any problems like this after having a port place.  I start my first round of chemo tomorrow, don't think I am going to be able to find a babysitter, due to them being in college for the year still, are kids allowed in the infusion room or not?, I also got my hair cut yesterday, it is super short, but I just keep telling myself that it was worth a good cause, since I donated it to locks of love, but I admit that I did cry, so I dread it when I do loss my hair completely. I really wish I knew what to expect after treatment, I have no family that is close to me, so we are having to spend 200 dollars to get my sister in law up here, to help incase I have bad side effects, 200 that we really can't afford, but not knowing what to expect, I have to.  I hope everyone else's treatment is going good.  Any answers to my questions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks so much.

    Kristy

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    wildflower2828- Hope this helps...

    Port-I had my port placement in mid-March when I had my UMX.  The area was well healed when I had my first infusion April 24th.  After the infusion, my port was a little sore. Also, when I moved a certain way, I could feel the catheater part of my port in my chest.  I did talk to my onco's office and asked if there was something wrong.  They didn't think there was a problem with that uncomfortable chest feeling.  A few days later, everything was fine again--- no port soreness and no weird chest feeling.  Ask the infusion nurse if you can have a lidocaine spray on the port site before the infusion so you won't feel anything there. 

    Kids in Infusion Area- Every infusion center is different.  I recall seeing a young child there with a parent; however, it may not be easy to entertain a child for the amount of time your 1st infusion may take.  It just depends on how old your children are.  You might want to call and ask if you can bring children with you. 

    Post-Infusion SE's  -Everyone reacts differently to the chemo.  it also depends upon your chemo cocktail.   Take your anti-nausea meds on schedule and keep something in your tummy (bland foods) to help ward off the nausea.  Good idea to have your sister in law there to help.  Drink, drink , drink, during and after the infusion to help flush that chemo through your body.  If the meds do not seem to be helping your side effect, call your onco or the infusion center asap.  Don't wait and think the side effect will pass on it's own.  If you don't let them know you are having problems, you can't get the help you need!

    Hope this helps..... BTW- what chemo combo are you having?

  • wildflower2828
    wildflower2828 Member Posts: 22
    edited May 2012

    Thanks for the wonderful help Melrose.  I just talked to the radiology department, because they said I shouldn't be having shortness of breath, tomorrow when I go in for my chemo, they will put some dye in there to make sure that it is flowing properl; and take some pictures.  My wonderful cocktail will be the AC 4 treatments, then 12 treaments of taxol.  Thanks for the helpful hint about sister in law, I guess the money might end paying off for itself, considering I still have a 5 year old that is not in school yet, so I will most likely need help with her.

    Kristy

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