Am I the only one who hasn't changed my lifestyle?

JMW
JMW Member Posts: 99
edited June 2014 in Life After Breast Cancer

 It will be one year come june that I finished my last radiation. My question is,  am I the only one on this board who hasn't changed my eating habits, drinking habits? I feel I was a pretty healthy eater before I got bc and have continued eating all the same things as before. I drink red wine a couple of times a week and still like the odd chocolate bar. The only thing I haven't been doing is exercising as I had no energy on the Tamoxifen (which I am now on a 6 week break from) and have started walking again but no weights yet. I read how everyone is eating nothing but fresh fruit and veggies and exercising everyday. I feel like I'm doing everything wrong!  I feel like I'm being bad and just asking for the cancer to come back. Stupid me....

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  • 3girls
    3girls Member Posts: 94
    edited May 2012

    That's so funny I was thinking the exact same thing!!  Just finished chemo and about to start radiation.  People always ask me if I have changed my diet.  Was thinking I should by an anti-cancer diet book :(

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited May 2012

    Ifyou are comfortable with what you are doing, in terms of lifestyle, why feel as if you're being bad or stupid? You're a big girl and if you've decided you are happy with what you are doing and life is good for you, that's fine. Many have made changes because that is what they are comfortable with, or their research has lead them to believe certain things . Maybe it makes them feel better and gives them a sense of control over bc. That's fine too! I have made some changes to my diet, stepped up my exercise, and take some supplements but don't feel that I've overhauled my lifestyle. I think not stressing over what you're doing or not doing is the important thing. Caryn

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited May 2012

    I didn't change my eating habits.  I still like the chocolate and wine on ocassion.

    I would have to say the one thing I do think about is "moderation".  I feel that it is ok for me to do what I want as long as I do it in moderation.  In other words a candy bar daily won't hurt me but eating 5 of them would be too much. 

    A glass of wine - no problem but am not going to drink myself drunk.  Again....to me it is all about moderation.

    The only food item that I won't ingest is soy and grapefruit as it contradicts the Tamoxifen.

  • greenfrog
    greenfrog Member Posts: 269
    edited May 2012

    I have been a vegetarian and a healthy eater all my life - a nightmare to live with regading what I would and wouldn't eat. It didn't stop me getting cancer. If anything I allow myself more indulgences these days - I don't deny myself any treats anymore. I have quit the booze though because it is the one area where I don't think I could exercise moderation now!

    I think a lot of people need to feel empowered in dealing with  their illness and so an "anti-cancer" diet is a very immediate way of trying to get control over your own health. It is also a massive industry with a lot of people getting very rich out of it.

    My aunt is a 20 year BC survivor. She is alcohol dependant and only stopped smoking 5 years ago. She is extremely overweight and has never done a day's exercise in her life. She is now an insulin dependent diabetic too. But no sign of cancer.

  • coraleliz
    coraleliz Member Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2012
    I've actually slipped a little. Instead of alcohol 3-4x/year, now 3-4x/month. My diet is a little worse. I still exercise everyday & haven't gained weight. Since we don't know what causes BC, I haven't a clue how to prevent a reoccurence. I feel the healthy lifestyle let me downFrown
  • ma111
    ma111 Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2012

    Your just reading the wrong threads. I haven't changed a thing.

  • JMW
    JMW Member Posts: 99
    edited May 2012

    Thanks ladies! Good to hear from you. I guess if a persons daily choices haven't changed much you are not going to bring it up. The people who do change things like exercising, diet and so on are proud of their changes and want to share it. Makes sense!  Just glad to know you're out there too!

  • suebak
    suebak Member Posts: 199
    edited May 2012

    I haven't changed a thing either.  I often think about it though.  If you read some of these posts, you will see lots of woman who eat healthy, don't drink, exercise, etc.  They are here, just as we are. I do not believe I am here because of my lifestyle.  I truly believe I am here because of my horrible family genes.  I am extremely worried about my girls.  The three of them are all healthy eaters, exercise, and take very good care of themselves.  I would like to think they won't get bc, but I am very worried about them.

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2012

    JMW

    I haven't exactly changed anything, I have added more fruits and veggies. But personally I still want to enjoy my pizza, chocolate and occasional margarita.  

  • ma111
    ma111 Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2012

    I don't believe that life style has anything to do with breast cancer. Smoking and lung cancer is life style, but that's about it.

  • jankc
    jankc Member Posts: 96
    edited May 2012

    What a great post and yes, I've changed my lifestyle. I walk less because my legs have been getting worn out with the Arimidex, I have a drink at least once a week now, and I've upped my M&M intake.  I was much more diligent before the diagnosis and that didn't pan out, so I've ditched the guilt.  It's helped me feel better than I have in a long time.

  • lmlola59
    lmlola59 Member Posts: 146
    edited May 2012

    This is a great post to see.I have found this to be an all consuming issue for me right now.What to eat,what to supplement with,what not to eat.After some of the threads on this site I am second guessing if I should have even done the treatments,that I have not yet even completed.

    I thought I had a good diet,exercised 6 days a week very good weight,but I do admit I was a weekend and occasion drinker.Was this my downfall? Also was still premenopausal and on birth control was this the dirty demon? Also does not run in my family genes so I am the first.

    So frankly I am at a loss other than stop drinking (don't think I can do this completely) and no birth control what do I do next? Will this be enough? Plus trying to eat only hormone free,organic only,pure only etc etc is a very expensive task when you are feeding a family.Also don't think I can live on veggies and fruits only for the rest of my life.So still not sure what I will be able to live with unless I can get a guarantee

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited May 2012

    i was a major exerciser and ate a ton of fruits and veggies prior to diagnosis.  I still do.  I do avoid soy which is the major one.  Otherwise, my diet is little different.  I eat relatively little processed food as am a major cook.  That said, I did have a burger at the 2/3 point of my 33 mile training ride yesterday.

    I am more diligent about upper body work now.  So my weights/crunches routine on week days.  This is about vanity and weight management as much as anything else.  I also want to be able to eat.

    I also exercise because my brain works better when I do, and my mood is sunnier.  I do major cycling events every summer.....at least 4 of them.  I have been noticing that I am power walking a lot faster now that I have been doing cycling training rides.  That, and my ankle has healed from my wipe out 2 months ago.  OUCH!!!!  And ouch.

    I have not given up wine, one of the supreme pleasures in my life.  Just got to taste the new WA state boutique winery releases, and it was so much fun.  Always exciting.

    I agree with ditching the guilt.   As long as you aren't living on a diet of cheez doodles and orange soda.  I am more concerned with the "rest of me" than my BC returning.  Fortunately, it's mostly the same list.

    Plus a lot of laughter.  Really. - Claire

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited May 2012

    JMW...is your avatar our English bulldog?  aren't they great dogs?  we had one several years ago and still talk about his antics!!!!

    I ate healthy, was a good weight, etc, etc, etc before BC Dx and I was still dx stage 3.....and according to all the things to do to lower your risk, I did them......so what did that get me!!!!  Today I'm 6 years post Dx and haven't really changed my life style except that I enjoy more dry red wine......Life is short and we don't know what the future holds...so I figure I'm going to enjoy life and if that means having red wine, or enjoying tofu now and again (my onc is okay with it on occasion) or any other food choice then I'm going to treat myself.....That said, I still eat healthy, my weight is decent (overweight for me the past year, but not overweight for my docs, just don't like how I look, but can't shake it off), I walk several days week......I do the best I can do to live a healthy life style and hope that NED sticks around for a long time....

  • faithhopenluv
    faithhopenluv Member Posts: 323
    edited May 2012

    I haven't had vodka since - well mostly because the day I was diagnosed I drank 6 and I think it will always be associated with that day. I drink mostly red wine now. But will drink beer, rum or whatever occasionaly. I drink green tea sometimes instead of coffee. I take vitamins. I exercise less, but hope to get back into my routine after chemo (this week - yay!) and surgery next month.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited May 2012

    I'm a Type 2 diabetic, though not overweight, so I do have to be a little cautious.  That said, I have decided that life is too short to never eat cake and ice cream again!  So  now it's everything in moderation. 

    A friend of mine is an absolute health nut - works out, yoga several times a week, very healthy eating, and a "3 time" breast cancer survivor.  We've talked about this and decided that maintaining your health helps to get you through serious illnesses, but it sure doesn't prevent breast cancer.

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited May 2012

    I haven't changed much either.  My attitude is pretty much that the odds are greatly in my favor that it won't come back anyway ... and I'm going to enjoy my life now. 

    I've been reading the board long enough to know that there is no rhyme nor reason to who gets breast cancer.  We've got fat people, skinny people, athletes and couch potatoes, people who did HRT and those who didn't (I never did), drinkers and non-drinkers, health food fanatics and junk food junkies, etc.   I agree that moderation in all things is the best idea.  Going overboard in any direction and letting it consume your life is not a good idea IMO.

    Since we don't know what causes breast cancer we are only kidding ourselves if we think that giving up this, that, and the other will guarantee anything.  Some of what I see on here I find kind of sad ... but if it helps people cope with the worry I guess it's OK for them ... just not for me.  The only 'change' I've had would be in my attitude about some things.  I no longer feel obligated to stress about and twist myself into knots tending to 'stuff' I don't care about just because somebody else thinks I should.  I've gotten better at saying 'no' to things I don't want to do. 

    Lots of good comments on here ... would like to have an 'agree' button for this thread!    

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited May 2012

    I love the idea of moderation! Of course, I do want to,do what I can to prolong my life but if it means not celebrating my granddaughter's birth with a bit of champagne, or tasting a delicious lemon bar made with Meyer lemon curd? No thank you. That would be a poor QOL for me. Someone posted on another thread, with a certain degree of outrage, that some of us are eating cakes and cookies. Well, yes, we are...in moderation and relishing every bite. Caryn (who maintains a mostly plant based diet, juices, takes supplements and exercises but does not deny herself life's delicious pleasures)

  • bcisnofun
    bcisnofun Member Posts: 488
    edited May 2012

    jmw - thank you so much for this post!!!  Often people post who did make major changes, so it always made me feel like I was the only one who didn't give up everything.  I made some changes but still eat dessert and have no plans to give it up. 

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited May 2012

    JMW

    Haven't changed much, just feel much guiltier now!

  • wildrumara
    wildrumara Member Posts: 450
    edited May 2012

    I haven't changed much at all......except  I am much much better about taking my vitamins now.  I have pretty much given up drinking anything "diet" now.   Yes, I was addicted to diet coke before.   I had one just about every day for over 20 years!   Can't be anything good about that!   I've switched to drinking iced tea....both green and  black, and not the diet kind!!   I've cut back on my sweets too, just a bit.   I've always maintained an ideal weight and exercised, and that hasn't changed either. 

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited May 2012

    haven't changed much. After 4 years, treatments have pretty much wiped out my appetite. and ice cream sounds a lot better than celery!  i drink, i smoke, (ok i don't smoke), i eat candy.. and really a lot of fruit, because it goes down easily..   I think i need a script  for marinol.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited May 2012

    Before diagnosis I was a runner and faithful yogi; I drank wine occasionally (never red, really don't like reds) and tried to eat well but sugared sweets are my downfall.  Became a pescatarian a couple of years ago.  And still got BC.  I haven't been able to run or do yoga for about 2 months now (chemo is completely draining me, and I was terrified of the germs at the gym) but starting again, slowly, this week (only two more txs to go!)  I am trying to cut out refined sugar because it's better for me overall - but yes, in the back of my mind there's the notion I keep hearing that it fuels tumor growth.  I also gave up alcohol altogether - trying to keep my liver healthy.  I do worry about recurrence, but realize that so much of that is beyond my control.  I can only do what I can do - if I try to make a change  that doesn't feel right or comfortable I am unlikely to maintain it, and I refuse to feel any guilt about that.  Life is too short not to enjoy some things.

  • DocBabs
    DocBabs Member Posts: 775
    edited May 2012

    I have changed very little since my diagnosis. Like others, I always exercised, no weight problems, ate very healthy and enjoyed a nice glass of wine with dinner, still breast cancer found me.I now do what I want to do ,when I want to do it.I know that I'm not going to live forever and this disease just reminds me to actually live every day , not just pass through it.I don't have to do anything crazy each day but I feel I need to acknowledge the day in some small way.I will admit to going a bit crazy this weekend. Me, my sister , my daughter and 12 of my female cousins participated in a 5K Dirty Girl Mud Run. I've never done anything like that, EVER! I thought to myself, if not now, when?I feel great. Celebrated with champagne...

  • crazypenguinsfan
    crazypenguinsfan Member Posts: 56
    edited May 2012

    I didn't change much diet and exercise wise because I ate pretty healthy and was an exercise nut and I had none of the risk factors and I still got it. So, I will keep on enjoying occasional wine, chocolate (dark is supposed to be better, but I love milk choc :) ) I will keep on having fun bike riding, running, playing hockey etc. because they make me feel good. If a food is healthy and it tastes good, I will eat it. If it tastes icky, no way!! I do have to say that eating mainly healthy foods makes me feel good, but I will not deny myself occasional special treats.

    Last night I was reading a rag mag about Victoria Beckam and she was at a  fancy hollywood restaurant and all she ordered was arugala with no salad dressing. Since it was rag mag, maybe it was exaggeration, but I thought it was funny and that is Major denial and restraint. I could never do that!

    The one thing that I have changed is I have stopped stressing. For the last couple of years I was stressing about work and life etc.  but since diagnosis I have decided that didn't get me anywhere and that was definitely hurting my health! I am trying to roll with the punches, enjoy the little things more, get enough sleep. I say no more to outside demands of my time and have been really enjoying my family.... 

  • Cyn0619
    Cyn0619 Member Posts: 63
    edited May 2012

    I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that hasn't changed my eating habits. I eat pretty healthy and drank little and I still got breast cancer. My theory now is to indulge and enjoy it. Life is too short we have enough stress worrying about this disease to worry about having a chocolate bar! Just my personal opinion.

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited May 2012

    I don't think you are going far enough.  My choice is a Tarte Belle Helene whenever Le Panier makes them.  Tarts with frangipain, pear, and chocolate filling.  Oh, my!!!  I have a lovely latte with this.

    I have some other faves, but suspect you get the idea.  I also want to state that my choices would be different if I had something like diabetes or heart disease but I don't.

    Just make sure that you are eating the best of chocolate.  Here in Seattle, we have a hot chocolate so sinful that if I had to choose between it and the ultimate mind-blowing sex, I would have to think.

    That is what is important. - Claire

  • JMW
    JMW Member Posts: 99
    edited May 2012

    So great to read all these posts! I have now kicked guilt out the door! I don't know why I got breast cancer! I am the the seventh of 8 sisters and the only one who did. Thank god! Life is good.

    Karen 1956  That was my English bulldog "Wee Geordie" I also had a female "Nadine". He died of old age at 13yrs. I loved that dog soooo much. Would love to have another one but the breeders want way too much money for them now.  

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    Heck no!



    I've been vegetarian for two years, am active and a healthy weight. Apart from the BC, I'm in the best shape of my life!



    I should probably cut back a bit on alcohol, but I'm not giving it up. I also refuse to give up soy, and any suggestions that I do so will be ignored. (Planning on having a nice curry with tofu & veggies at my favorite Thai restaurant this weekend!)



    What will I change? I was intending on spending this summer learning to hula hoop around my chest, but since the infusion nurses are insisting that I get a port next week, that's probably out. (I will ask the surgeon if I can get it on the right side which will minimize the chances of me smacking it with my hoop.). That just means I'll be focusing on hooping around my thighs/knees instead, and chest hooping will have to wait until next Spring.

  • mybee333
    mybee333 Member Posts: 1,189
    edited May 2012

    I have increased my intake of cruciferous vegtables - that's right I snack, after cooking - right out of the box, brussels sprouts, broccoli, cauliflower.  I added V8. I drink 4-6 cups of green tea with honey.  I have decreased my carb. intake (mostly for weight loss) and sugary foods, basically junk,  but am not a fantic. I love my red wine and feel it is good for my heart health. I am trying to get back to my walking and exercise, of late. Surgery fatique is finally....lifting and it is wonderful.  Am plagued by insomnia, and that is why I am still up and posting. I walk on my lunch (as I did before) and try to walk or work out again, later in the day.  I try to reduce some stress by making my teens help, but I feel that is a lost cause Smile  Basically, I don't know why I got BC and I don't know what will prevent it.  I have to say I believe that stress, a repeatedly broken heart, all contributed to my breast cancer,( but that is all my opinion:)  Have a great weekend.

    Your sister in spirit,

    Molly

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