April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited May 2012

    Stacie!!  I didn't know you were a fellow red head!!  same here.. haven't had my hair cut short since I was 8 years old.  Day after they said definitely chemo I hacked it off.  wanted time to get adjusted before it was gone.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Hi again, Positivity!  Congrats again on your baby boy Ethan!  I have two boys and while they're grown, they are some of the best things in my life.  My oldest buzzed my hair this p.m..  We laughed together about it.  Chemo-wise, other than the hair coming out, I did, I think, pretty well with tx #1.  I did have SEs, but no nausea or vomiting - all the preventive meds they gave me worked for me this time.  The decadron made me super wired - I kept catching myself talking a mile a minute and interrupting people all the time, and I had some bad headaches, which I think were caused in part by the Zofran.  I have been using the baking soda/salt rinses and did get just a few mouth blisters/sores, but except for one on the very tip of my tongue, they weren't all that bad or very painful - not enough to keep me from eating, anyway.  I also haven't had major issues with taste this time around.  Mostly the worst has been the headaches (I still had some beyond when I stopped the Zofran), eye dryness, and the fatigue.  I can't complain overall.  I am just really hoping the next treatments aren't a whole lot worse. 

    LOL, I tried a T-shirt wrap after the hair buzz, and I guess I'll need to practice more but it looked kind of funky.  I went to the REI website to see what the buffs look like, and I do like those.  I think I might have to take a little shopping trip - they have a purple one that I thought was really pretty.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    I looked up recipes for Magic Mouthwash online, and the only ingredient I don't already have is viscous lidocaine.  I don't have thrush *knocking wood* so I don't really need nystatin.  I might try concocting something just with the maalox and liquid benadryl and see if that helps my tongue.  Does anybody know, does the lidocaine taste bad??  Years ago I had a horrible strep throat while I was in college, hurt so bad it woke me up at night, and the doc prescribed viscous xylocaine to swish in my throat.  It killed the pain but tasted absolutely terrible.

  • Lezza13
    Lezza13 Member Posts: 957
    edited May 2012

    IndigooMont.  Yes, it hurts less when it is buzzed.  That is how I feel. Also, I use 1 tsp each of baking soda and salt in my quart of water every night. It seems to make those inside sores go away.

    Melrosemelrose.  Congrats on the graduation!!  I'm a Texan too.

     

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    IndigoMont11- Those Buffs are the way to go.  I already purchased four of them and they have UVA protection plus I figured I really would use them later on.  They definitely are a no brainer when it comes to putting it on.  No adjustments needed.  You should go to the Buff website and check out they manipulate the Buff to get different styles.

    Lezza13- Stacie is also a Texan-- north Texas (Dallas/FW area).  Where are you?  Thanks for the congrats on my DS graduation.  At this point, he is so bored and so ready to get out.  He has AP exams the next two weeks; meanwhile he is just sitting in his classes and so bored.

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    Here is the journal article containing the new nutrition and exercise guidelines that came out last week.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.3322/caac.21142/full#tbl2

  • carol50
    carol50 Member Posts: 22
    edited May 2012

    Im not sure when I start because I was so annoyed when they told me about the chemo (I also had a 3 hour wait for no apparent reason ) that I ended up telling them I would do it closer to home if I had to do it.  (I had gone into Boston but Mass General has a suburban location closer by.)  So I have an appointment with the oncologist locally next thursday.  Im guessing I will start as soon as I can after that.

    Now that the chemo reality is setting in - that makes me more frightened about the cancer itself! Before I was just thinking "it hasnt spread" but now Im thinking OMG - maybe it has spread!  But somehow I know I will have to get through this.

    Carol 

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited May 2012

    Carol, my score was 28, so I knew I definitely needed chemo.  I was relieved, though, when I was told I needed TC x 4 instead of more. You will get through it.  Start wig shopping now before your chemo.  Got my head shaved on day 16 after my first treatment.  Next one on 5/9.  I think in terms that I will be half over by then.  Think positive and remember, it's the big picture you need to look at! 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012
    Carol- Try not to assume things right now that are not based on true facts.  I had a PET/CT scan right before I started chemo.  I asked my oncologist research coordinator not to tell me the results until chemo day because it wouldn't change the fact that I was having chemo.  She called me the day before and told me everything was clear because she wanted to share the good news.  In my mind, the chemo is to hunt down and destroy those cancer cells that decided to go travelling and were not detected by the other tests and surgeries.  It is what is necessary for me to get the rest of the nasty out of me.  You will get through this.  You may want to prepare a list of questions for the next onocologist visit so you will know what the chemo protocal will be, the anti-nausea drugs, port or no port. EMLA cream if you get a port, etc.  The learning curve is rapid with chemo but you are not alone here.  You have plenty of support here!!!  HUGS!!!   
  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    I am wearing my monofilament wig. I had put it away after buying it a couple of weeks ago, and forgot how pretty it is - looks like I'd look (with my hair before cutting it short a few weeks ago) if every day was a good hair day, lol. Definitely think the TLC cotton wig caps are more comfortable than the "pantyhose" things. Tomorrow I'll go to REI. My vanity just needed a boost.



    I did remember to take the wig off before pulling the meatloaf out of the oven!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Carol, what Melrose said about the chemo doing a seek and destroy on any evil cancer cells lurking. The PET/CT scan I had after my BMX and before chemo said "no measurable signs of cancer" which told me no tumors in addition to what were removed during surgery. But I knew that the scans can't see individual cells and that since I had both positive nodes and lymph/vascular invasion, I'd have chemo.



    My MO saw my face when he ordered the PET/CT scan because I was scared too, and said my chemo prescription/first treatment would happen as planned regardless of the scan results. Take things a step at a time (we know, easier said than done).



    Stick with us - lots of great people, support and info here!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012
    Indigomont11- You rock with the new you !!!!  I just saw this website for head coverings on another thread and checked it out.  Just type in "coveryourhair" and you can get to the website.  The pretied bandanas look pretty cute and not too expensive.  Yep... oven heat + new synthetic wig = trouble.....
  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited May 2012

    I second what the others have said Carol.  I went to the University of PA for my 2nd opinion and the way they described it was as possible "seeds" getting past the lymph (we've all tried to grow seeds and know sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't!)  Chemo is meant to ensure that any seeds never get a chance to grow.  My RO told me "in all likelihood you're now cured (after my lumpectomy) so think  of any additional treatment as insurance that it'll never come back"  I'll buy that insurance any day!!

  • ladybug1
    ladybug1 Member Posts: 21
    edited May 2012

    Indigomont11-  I am on day 9 after my first of 6 TCH treatments.  I haven't seen any hair loss yet and even though I am prepared I am dreading it.   There are great buffs on www.buffusa.com or on amazon too.  They look really great.  I just bought another one:)) 

    I never thought about taking the wig off before opening the oven, yikes good thing I read this haha that is quite a visual.

    Stacie- I love reading your posts, they are so positive.  I only hope I can be like that when my hair comes out.  

    I struggle with my weight and over the last year I lost 70 pounds.  I have put back on a little through this ordeal and I am so worried about weight gain.

  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited May 2012

    Ladybug - you and I will keep each other on track for no weight gain, ok?  I've been doing weight watchers on and off the last 3 years and had been down a total of 50 so I understand.

  • sandik
    sandik Member Posts: 482
    edited May 2012

    Just got home. No side effects today. I think my biggest one so far has been heartburn. If that Magic Mouthwash fixes that, then I am so getting it. 

    Stacie, redhead here too! Not as red as when I was little, but still got the temper to go with it! haha

    I hopped on the scale today. I think I've lost weight. Weird. I feel like I've been eating so much. I certainly can stand to lose some!  

    If any of you are just looking for bandana type scarves, try here.  www.tradersintl.com 

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    Hi Sandik!  Sounds like you are on the same track as me weightwise.  I'll take that silver lining.

    Ladybug, yes, when I bought the wigs, they said not to get them too near heat, like an open oven or grill.  I never would have thought of it either!  (Melrose, I hope you don't know about that from experience!).

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    IndigoMont11- No first hand experience here with wigs!!! No science experiments here to find out the melting point of wigs either!!!! 

    As for weight, I feel like I'm doing good to maintain my weight.  Haven't lost anymore!!!! That 14 pound loss since February is more than 10% of my total body weight so that is a lot for me. Eating 5-6 times a day seems like a lot but it really isn't since I eat small meals/snacks. YAY to all of those trying to lose weight!!!!  Right now, just staying healthy and eating healthy is one of the most important things right now for all of us. 

    I have 4 Buffs but haven't worn them yet.  My hair hasn't left me yet.  I'm now 11 days out from my first treatment. 

    Have a wonderful weekend everyone!!!! Minimal SE's today!!!!!

  • chrissera
    chrissera Member Posts: 79
    edited May 2012

    Good morning Ladies.  Finished first chemo yesterday, wasn't too bad.  Went to bed feeling really crappy and out of sorts.  Still not sleeping well becuase of the port placement last Wednesday.  I am a stomach sleeper and that is really uncomfortable.  Woke up tired, nauseous and achy.  Took a Zofran and will be drinking lots to trying to keep the SEs away! 

    Does anyone have a suggestion to avoid a caffeine withdrawl headache?  I am a big coffee drinker but coffee is the last thing I feel like having right now...  I am trying a cup of tea, but that doesn't usually do anything when I am just feeling "normally" sick (before the BC)

    Have a great weekend All !!!  

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    Just sat on the porch and enjoyed the birds. Having my morning cup-o-tea. Looking forward to kayaking with hubby and 5 kids today. Hope my upper body can make it maybe 30 minutes. I get winded pretty easy. S'pose I can float awhile then... it's just on a glat lake. Ater were going to my nephews soccer game. Them me, my hubby and son, and my niece and nephews are chillin. Depart to El Paso for business tomorrow.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012

    chrissera, my only suggestion regarding the coffee (I was an addict prior to chemo) is green tea.  It takes about 3 cups of green tea to equal the caffeine in one cup of coffee.  I find that I sip it all morning, and it is quite soothing.  It feels good to think about all those antioxidants in it, too. 

    My weight is fluctuating all over the place.  I lost 3# then gained about 4 # after the first TCH, now after the 2nd TCH I lost 6# in two days due to the D train (despite eating and drinking as much as I could).  I know it is all water weight so I'm not too concerned about it, as long as I put it back on - so far, put 1# back on this morning. 

    I'm doing so much better this time around compared to my first TCH, and I feel so grateful for that!  

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2012

    For weight lossers. I lost 8# on WW prediagnosis and have lost 17# since. I have days with chemo when I SUPER crave carbs and sweets. I try ro go easy on myself if i cheat and get back on my eating plan asap. I am following the guidelines in the link I posted yesterday and also focusing on anti inflammatory food choices from Dr Weil's food pyramid. Wish me luck.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012

    Stacie- Have a great weekend on the lake and at the soccer game.  Glad you are feeling good and are able to enjoy this weekend.  Good luck on your overnight biz trip!!!  I'm going to check out that link and Dr Weil's food pyramid.

    chrissera- 1st chemo done.... YAY!!!!  I'm sure you can take a tylenol to help the headache if you want.  The other thing to to do drink half decaf/half reg. coffee so you can wean yourself off the caffeine.  Keep drinking that water to flush that chemo out!!!!

  • C-squared
    C-squared Member Posts: 514
    edited May 2012

    Sandik- you may want to try Pepcid or something like that for the heartburn (if it's ok with your doc).  It helped me.

    Here's to a se free weekend to us all!

    Cheers!

  • ellamilana
    ellamilana Member Posts: 76
    edited May 2012

    Hello ladies,

    What a great group!

    I had my first treatment on May 3rd: Herceptin, Taxotere, Epirubicin only to run to my son 30th birthday surprise party. Poor boy was running around like a headless chicken trying to organize/fugure out my diagnosis, treatments, doctors etc. He spent whole day with me feeding me ice not having a clue whats coming. I must say I was scared big time, but the distraction of preparation and excitement took of the edge. I was more worried not to say something. Because of the first time my son was running late to his "very important meeting" and shortly after the treatment I end up at the party, where about 70 people were yelling "Surprise!!!!" He asked me later: You knew about it whole day?! Me: more like 2 weeks... dah

    Today is a second day. I feel a bit tired, but getting ready to go for a walk. When do you think my hair will start falling off? My doctor concerned about my low iron, any suggestions?

    Best wishes! 

  • docziggy
    docziggy Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2012

    Anyone mind if I crash the April/May party? I started chemo April 26th, but have not had surgery yet ... I'm on 4 rounds of AC over 12 weeks. So far, SE have been moderate, but I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop (especially since I'm only 1.5 weeks in!). Am working to keep up my usual levels of (insane) activity, but find myself self-sabotaging every now and again and acting as though I am made of glass (which is amusing because I get really irritated at people who suddenly act as though I'm made of glass when they find out my diagnosis!).

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited May 2012
    Ellamilana & Docziggy - Welcome to our great group of gals.  You will find lots of wonderful support and a place to vent!!!!  Have a wondeful weekend and of course, minimal side effects!!!
  • Lezza13
    Lezza13 Member Posts: 957
    edited May 2012

    Stacie-  I am in the DFW area as well  Hope you had a great weekend on the lake

    Chrissera- glad the first round is over.  I take generic benedryl and ambien for sleep.

    Hope everyone else has a good weekend.

  • ellamilana
    ellamilana Member Posts: 76
    edited May 2012

    Hello ladies,

    What a great group!

    I had my first treatment on May 3rd: Herceptin, Taxotere, Epirubicin only to run to my son 30th birthday surprise party. Poor boy was running around like a headless chicken trying to organize/fugure out my diagnosis, treatments, doctors etc. He spent whole day with me feeding me ice not having a clue whats coming. I must say I was scared big time, but the distraction of preparation and excitement took of the edge. I was more worried not to say something. Because of the first time my son was running late to his "very important meeting" and shortly after the treatment I end up at the party, where about 70 people were yelling "Surprise!!!!" He asked me later: You knew about it whole day?! Me: more like 2 weeks... dah

    Today is a second day. I feel a bit tired, but getting ready to go for a walk. When do you think my hair will start falling off? My doctor concerned about my low iron, any suggestions?

    Best wishes! 

  • ellamilana
    ellamilana Member Posts: 76
    edited May 2012

    Hello ladies,

    What a great group!

    I had my first treatment on May 3rd: Herceptin, Taxotere, Epirubicin only to run to my son's 30th birthday surptice party. Poor boy was runninig around like a headless chicken trying to organize/figure out my diagnosos, treatments, doctors etc. He spent whole day with me feeding me ice and not having a clue what is coming. I must say I was scared big time, but the distruction of preparation and excitement took of the edge. I was more worried not to say something. Becoause of the first time my son was running late to his "very important meeting" and shortly after the chemo I end up at the party, where about 70 people were yelling "Surprise!!! He asked me later: You knew about it whole day?! Me: more like 2 weeks... dah

    Today is a second day. I feel a bit tired, but getting ready to go for a walk. When do you think my hair will start falling off? My doctor concerned about my low iron, any suggestions?

    Best wishes

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