March 2012 chemo

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  • Yvyc
    Yvyc Member Posts: 13
    edited May 2012

    Myleftboob - Thanks, here's hoping for less SE! Yes, I had an echocardiogram before my first treatment, and will have another next month. I'm hoping the slowing hair growth isn't true. I have two wigs and lots of hats and scarves, but I do miss my own hair, it's just not the same!!

    Indigo - Thanks! I know I can't wait! Definitely going to question the need for Neulasta next week :)

    Lostinmo - Sorry about your day yesterday! Hope today is better!!

    Have nay of you tried taking anything to help with sleeping? I've tried lots, Melatonin supplements help me on my off weeks. The day prior to chemo and about four days after I use Ativan or Ambien, these really knock me out but I don't like using them all the time. I've never been a pill taker so all these meds are really wearing me out, but I've gotta do it to get some rest!

  • journey4life
    journey4life Member Posts: 517
    edited May 2012

    Shera - celebrating with you on your last tx! Way to go!

    Yvette - have you glimpsed your light at the end of the tunnel? You're almost there!  I look forward to the day when I too can say "only one more!"

    Hope - I can relate with you on the tongue sores. For me, it was worse after Tx2 and Tx4 of A/C. In fact, Tx4 was on the 25th and I'm dealing with sores now. Anyone know if Taxol causes mouth/tongue sores?

    Sissy & kltb - hoping your SEs have gotten more manageable or, even better, disappeared! (((((hugs)))))

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    The hair thing is a mess, isn't it?  I've always had a bad habit of playing with my hair and now that every time I run my fingers through it and a bunch comes out, I have to make myself stop it.  I didn't buzz it yesterday because I don't have any obvious bare patches yet or anything, but it is driving me nuts.  Washing and styling it now seems like a waste of my time and hair care products and will just make my face hot from the blow dryer - and I wonder if my round brush will pull hunks of it out.  It is all over my shirt.  So... when my son gets up from his post-biology test hangover, I'm going to "just do" it and get the buzz over with. 

  • CAYH
    CAYH Member Posts: 99
    edited May 2012

    Hello Ladies,

    Am on day 8 after A/C #3, & can say I sure felt crappier this go round...anyone feeling  their esophagus is made of charcoal these days?  I can't describe it any other way - it's not like a normal sore throat that hurts when you swallow, it just feels as if it's become burnt wood further down.  No mouth/tongue sores, but lots of burpiness,  I just keep taking my daily kefir & yogurt (although resorted to ice cream - the best ice cream in the world "Breyers Neopolitan" as it was the only thing to soothe) & probiotic capsules in hopes of regenerating those digestive system cells more quickly.  After a week, it's gotten better.

    OK - I've debated posting this - it's embarrassing, highly annoying & confounding...

    Seems since my nether region has become silky smooth as a baby's with hardly any hair left down there, my urethra has become directionally challenged...no longer is it reliably controlled in a downward/forward direction.  Meaning, it tends to spray all over - all over me, that is...no matter how much I try to control the force, it has this different result!  I've never heard of anyone else speak of this yet - please tell me I'm not the only one who now needs to keep a squirt bottle of water at hand to rinse after every void!  Oh, what I wouldn't give for a bidet...Embarassed

    I've made my own rinse for that other nether region, since hard stools are causing irritation:  mix generic witch hazel with a bit of glycerin & use that for my own handmade wipes.  It's been very helpful & I use it as often as I remember.  Those were the 2 main ingredients on the store bought ones, so I'm finding this a much less expensive option without added chemicals/preservatives.  Charming subjects, huh? 

    On another note, I do take Melatonin before bed & that seems to help with sleeping for at least 5 hours anyways.  I just finished weeding the flower bed & am now *exhausted*...sheesh!  My energy level has certainly tanked this go round.

    Sorry to hear so many of you are feeling bad - just keep thinking of the time that's already past: we are getting though this! 

    JanuaryIce & Sammybaby - how are you doing??? 

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited May 2012

    CAYH

    If it makes you feel any better a GF of mine complained of the same thing after she got a Brazillian wax job "down there".  She is convinced we have pubic hair for this very reason and vowed never to get one again.

    Even though I'm now finished chemo I hear you on the energy thing.  I just cleaned my bathroom and am having a break already.  Trying to get the housework done today so I can get some yardwork done over the weekend.  Then of course food shopping, cooking an laundrey.  Tired just thinking about it.

    Good for you on the handmade wipes.  I just used whatever baby wipes were on sale that were unscented and hypoalergenic but they were a soothing relief from just toilet paper.

    I agree, Bryers is great icecream!!

  • CAYH
    CAYH Member Posts: 99
    edited May 2012

    Well Mlb - there definitely will never be a "Brazillian" in my future - gaaaah!

    Thanks for relaying that tidbit from your pal - maybe I'm not so special after all?  Ha!

  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited May 2012

    Cayh- Yeap on the directional problem.  Never knew the hair mattered.  Wonder how the porn stars do it?  The witch hazel mix is a good idea.  After I gave birth I used a squirt bottle mix of witch hazzel and water.  I guess I will go look for a bottle...

    It seems 3 is a magic number.  A sucky magic number in this sense.  I am so tired! 9 days out and I'm still taking nausea meds. I hope 4 is better, I have to go meet my surgical team and do imaging the week after tx4.  I was hoping to schedule it during a "good" time but no such luck.  Oh well, at least my new Dr.s are giving me some answers and a timeline.  Has anyone here done DIEP?  What was your recovery time?  Also if you went with implants, do those need to be replaced in the future?

    We are strong and we will make it through this.  I think we need to start posting a good thing of the day again or maybe some details of our future plans.  I know that BC has made me rethink all the things I have been putting off.  I have been married 20 years and haven't had a honeymoon yet.  We eloped to Vegas but had to get back for work.  I told DH we were gonna do it, now we just need to decide what we want to do.  Most of my vacations with DH have involved sleeping in the dirt (camping).  We do a lot of 4x4ing, and motorcross.  I told him I want indoor plumbing and little umbrellas in my drinks!

    To the future! (and beyond)

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    Finally getting caught up - Kim, I am sorry you have fleas. :)  They are the worst to try and get rid of...we have just noticed tons of little weird bugs already this season - the mild winter is to blame I am sure.

    lost - bah on your bad day yesterday...maybe you will have a chance to make up for it this weekend?

    ladyfighter - good to see you, sorry you have been having a rough time.  Good luck with SE this time around...if all else fails, just lie low and check in later to let us know how you are.

    hopeful - sounds like the ob/gyn eased your mind somewhat...I cannot believe I forgot to ask my MO at my last appt after she went off on her tangent.  I guess I have a week or so to see if it is going to happen this month...

    OMG CAYH that is so true - I was just complaining to my mom not 10 minutes ago that I pee all over myself now!  It isn't like it is an urgency issue but I feel like I am a mess every time...I guess that is the problem.  It hadn't even occurred to me...it's like (and here we go to TMI), I will think I have wiped (and I use tons of toilet paper, I am famous for clogging toilets) and then I go to pull up the undies and my thighs are damp WTH????  Bidets for everyone!

    Indigo..perhaps you could make a dog toupee (remember my cat toupee thought from a few weeks ago?)  Good luck with the big cut.

    Yvyc - I complained about sleep to the MO and got a Restoril rX but I don't think it is any better for me than just taking a Benadryl to sleep.   Plus I don't want to mix "sleeping meds" with "pain meds" on my bad weeks so I don't take it faithfully.  I am so sure I am going to do some big celebrity OD with one Percocet, lol, but I am paranoid.   I can see the toxicology report now - one percocet, one compazine, a restoril, some warfarin and stool softener...oh and a half a xanax from a day before.  That would make the front page of TMZ for sure...

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    tellie - you and I were posting at the same time...yes, definitely you need to make plans for a trip!  We are planning on doing something during my "good week" after TX #4 after school is out.   Hopefully the pattern will hold and I will in fact, have such....

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2012

    Having a better day today!  Got the motorcycle back home and fixed. DS has his new glasses. Although I'm not sure how he sees out of them half the time, he never cleans them. lol

    Reading through here again I realized that most everyone seems to be having a harder time this round.  I know it took me a few extra days to feel "normal" again.  But I was actually blaming mine on the heat and humidity that is pushing in here already.

     Now what to find for everyones supper?

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    lost - I could gladly stay indoors until October - I don't handle the heat and humidity on the best of times, much less now.   Oh and if I were responsible for supper, no one would eat here. ;)

    That is a consideration when we are looking for somewhere to take a trip - I was thinking San Antonio - but yuck - hot/humid.  DH always wants to go to the FL panhandle/beach - again hot/humid and frankly, I am a "sit on the balcony and look at the ocean" type not a go hang on the beach type.  Plus the last few years we have stayed free at my SIL's sister's condo and that isn't an option this year and I hate to pay all that money just for accomodations.

    Not really wanting to road trip too far away for just the 5-6 days we will have though.  I figure I could probably get an extra couple of days by skipping my 2 week labs but then I would spend the whole time worrying if my counts were high enough...

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    That is a good topic for another discussion thread - vacation ideas during treatment. Maybe it's already out there. I have seriously been thinking about it, too, because of our anniversary. Buuuut - I really want that to be as perfect as possible, and decided at the risk of making reservations and cancelling them if I have a bad week at the time, or going but not feeling up to doing what I want to do, that we'll postpone the Vegas trip until chemo and rads are over. I also haven't followed up with anyone yet on my risk for LE and flying and need to do that. I don't mind not having hair at that time - I'm being confident that I can pull off the bombshell look with my gorgeous dress no matter what. Sooo...



    But anyway, now I'm curious about what vacations people have done during treatment and what worked well. One of the ladies on my April/May chemo thread says she's going kayaking this weekend! I'm impressed, but that's not for me. :-)

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    Oh wow...yeah, no, kayaking is not for me either.  We always go somewhere for a family vacay but the last few years it has been the aforementioned free condo - but that came with strings of spending the week with bro/sil and nieces and nephews :)  Oh and the big road trip out West with my parents last year...a few years ago we went to the Smokey Mountains and I loved that...but that is a haul for you, Indigo :) 

    Are you looking to just drive/not fly?  We don't ever fly, which is why our trips any further than a few hours turn into big road trips. But I was used to that from being a kid...we road tripped anywhere we went (West, East, Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, all in a truck/camper and occasional hotel).

    We can easily drive to Memphis, St. Louis, Dallas, Branson (yuck, not again), but everything I can think to do with kids those places is mostly outside stuff.  And I hate being outside...much less outside feeling at all icky and in a wig...

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited May 2012

    Hi Yvette

    Welcome! 

    Chemo March 2012 is a lovely group, thanks to Sissydi starting it. You'll find some great people here.

    Quite a few of us will be starting Herceptin over the next few months, so perhaps you can report back to us - and there are ladies who've already started it so I'm sure they'll help you too,

    Best wishes

    Alice the Cat

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    I wonder if we are allowed to fly during treatment?  I have never asked, but most of my vacations involve flying!  I am planning a trip to visit a friend in NY in November -maybe i will have some hair by then.  I have a BIG trip planned next april - 10 days on a sailboat out of Grenada - can't wait.

    Had my shot today, no pain, just tired.  Hope I have some energy tomorrow morning to at least go to grocery and maybe clean a bathroom or something.  Food is more important than cleaning right?!

    Hope everyone has a lovely evening 

  • CaitlinB
    CaitlinB Member Posts: 121
    edited May 2012

    Hi Ladies,

    I think bitchiness can be attributed to the steroids they are giving you with the AC; my chemo nurse warned me of that and my hubby and I had a really bad fight with my first AC.  Your fuse goes from being long to REALLY short, lol!  Poor husband.  

    The nausea sucks too.  I don't think drinking water helps that much.  I drank a ton of water, used both drugs prescribed for anti-nausea and STILL had nausea.  To me that's the worst.  I will take the fatigue any day over the nausea.  

    Congrats to those of you done with CHEMO or AC (or almost done).  I am a little discouraged that some of you guys are having issues with the Taxol too.  I will have my last AC on 5/8.  Yippee!  My worst days are days 5-8, but the last AC kicked my butt.  My friend said that the 3rd AC was the worst.  I am hoping she is right. 

    I will start Herceptin with the Taxol.  I have heard the only concern is with your heart, but they will monitor that.  

  • CAYH
    CAYH Member Posts: 99
    edited May 2012

    Oooh!  I forgot to tell you all about epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) & baking soda baths:
     
    On a daily basis, they are extremely detoxifying, relieve joint pain & makes your skin supple & soft!
     
    The magnesium in epsom salts is an incredibly valuable mineral & will help you sleep.  The sulfates disinfect the blood & flush toxins from our cells.  The baking soda has an alkalizing effect on our bodies & also helps detox. Both are cheap & readily available.
     
    Depending on the size of your tub, you can add 1-2 cups epsom salts + 1/2 to 1 cup baking soda.  Add 10-15 drops of your favourite essential oil (lavendar, rose or jasmine perhaps) & make it really therapeutic.  Stay in at least 20 minutes - 40 for maximum benefit.  Light a candle - read a book - sip on some warm lemon water or Sleepy Time tea -  practise some deep breathing...
     
     
    This has probably done more for my sense of well being & promoting sleep than anything...it just gives you that "ahhhhhh" feeling!
     
    (Caution:  not to use if you have high blood pressure, heart or kidney condition) 
  • CAYH
    CAYH Member Posts: 99
    edited May 2012

    Good to know I'm not the only "directionally challenged" one out there...
     
    I thought this was THE place to discuss all this crap - never TMI,  kltb
     
    LOL!
  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    CAYH - I have heard of those baths - going to get some epsom salt and try it out!  Thanks for posting!

  • Love74
    Love74 Member Posts: 175
    edited May 2012

    The epsom salt also helps heal you if you are having the big 'D' or the big 'C' too much. Sea salt works good too.

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    CAYH - That sounds so great - thanks for the link and info!  Although epsom salt reminds me of my poor brother having to soak his ingrown toenails throughout adolescence, lol!

    Cailtin - speaking of bitchiness, I have discovered that hydrocodone makes me mean as sh*t...just very short tempered and irritated at everyone and everything!   I have a leftover rX that I take when I don't want to take my Percocet and omg, they make me mean.

    Ok, I screwed up today by not drinking hardly any water, much less enough.  I didn't eat much either but I looked at my water bottle and realized I had drank about a half a bottle all day - yikes...I started feeling really nauseous and yucky.  Feeling better now after a compazine and drinking and eating a little something.  Why is it so hard to drink?  Oh, and food for thought - compazine is also prescribed for schizophrenia...good to know...

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    Oh I drank so much water yesterday I had to pee 4 times during the night!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited May 2012

    OK, I finished working for the day, and DS#1 buzzed my hair off.  Golly - it sure is gray at the roots!  With it being cut short before and after shedding the last couple of days, I wasn't too surprised that there wasn't a huge pile of it when I was done. 

    My son was soooo sweet... said "You still look like Mom, your eyes look bigger now and more blue - and your head has a good shape!"  We laughed a lot together.  I will say that we did it outside on the back porch, and I grabbed one of my little sleep caps as soon as I walked back into the house and put it on before looking in the mirror.  He didn'tt shave it all the way down to my scalp, and it does feel better from that sore feeling. 

    I tried doing the T-shirt wrap - DS#1 helped me twist it in the back - but we need to practice some more because I thought I looked kind of like a desert dweller!  So I just put the cap back on.  Going to shower, see how much more comes out and put on some makeup (just for me).

    kltb04 - I have driven all the way to Vegas before, but with DH's bad leg and me getting over the treatments, we wamt to fly.  My plan was really to "run off" for a long weekend, and I don't want to spend two days of it on the road.  I hope to feel good enough *crossing fingers* when my mom and niece come out in July to do something with them, although Mom wants to take my niece to the Renaissance Festival, and I don't want to do that.  It is in a really pretty area and not far away by car, but it always gets really super hot, there are big crowds and long lines, and then it tends to thunderstorm in the afternoon.  I've been in years past and I'd do it if I weren't taking the chemo, but I'm giving it a pass for now.  I'm hoping I'll feel good enough while she's here to go on a little hike like I did the day before my first treatment, or maybe to take a day trip up to the high country like we did last year with my younger niece and nephew.  We'll see!

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited May 2012

    Indigo - Awwww, how sweet. 

    I have yet to try the tshirt wrap...I just wear these stupid care caps around the house and just take them off when I go to sleep but they aren't really comfortable for lounging about.

    Yeah, the R. Festival doesn't sound like the best idea right now - nothing with crowds and heat sounds appealing.

  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited May 2012

    Indigo- you get used to the hair thing.  I can't say I would choose to be bald, but I am used to it now.  The otherday I pinned my daughter down and rubbed my head stubble on her.  I laugh everyday when I wash my head with shampoo for "unruley, frizzy hair".  Okay, maybe not everyday but on the days I am not too lazy to shower.  Sometimes I stomp my foot and tell my husband his head has to be lower than mine (King and I). 

    Good thing- I am watching Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band with my kids and they seem to like it!

  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited May 2012
    P.S. I bought some dew rags from the local beauty supply store and they work great around the house.  My head hasn't gotten the hang of regulating it's own temp. Tongue out
  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited May 2012

    I just got in from meeting a couple of my gal pals at the local patio, jeez it felt so good to feel so normal! I only had 2 glasses of wine and my friend picked me up and drove me home. Talk about being a cheap drunk LOL!  My hairdresser joined us too, he shaved my head down to the wood for me.  I haven't been out much obviousely but it was so nice to be in everyone's company having a laugh. Today I feel normal which makes me so happy!

  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited May 2012
  • tc9876
    tc9876 Member Posts: 136
    edited May 2012

    CAYH: I've done the epsom salt baths but I've not tried it with baking soda.  I'll be trying that very soon.  I want to do all I can to rid my body of the poisons I allow into my body every 3 weeks.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2012

    MLB - sounds like a wonderful evening!

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