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AnnE16
AnnE16 Member Posts: 241
edited June 2014 in Alternative Medicine

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  • AnnE16
    AnnE16 Member Posts: 241
    edited April 2012

    Does anyone do colonics? If so, how long have you been doing it?  Any side effects? 

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited April 2012

    way tooo un natural for me.. juicing and adding fibre should do the same thing without the danger of heart compromise and dehydration.

  • AnnE16
    AnnE16 Member Posts: 241
    edited May 2012

    I had no idea it caused heart problems too.  I guess I won't bother trying that out!  Eeeks!

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited May 2012

    To think how much we all just love that prep for a colonoscopy, and the next several hours of running to the bathroom, I can't imagine doing it as a matter of course

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited May 2012

    The body was designed to handle intake and out-take very cleverly and effectively.  The problems with out-take are the result of bad intake 99% of the time.  

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited May 2012

    my sis almost died of complications of long term laxatives... (not the same as colonics i guess) but she now has 'Chrones Disease" and has lost about 2 feet of her intestines.

    Fibre, juices - there are many natural ways to flush and regulate - you don't want to lose nutrients tho.

    if you really want to be grossed out read about kidney stone cleansing.. Perhaps it is a good thing.. seems extreme to me.

     http://www.sensiblehealth.com/Journey-02.xhtml

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited May 2012

    do anything natural, I think--I actualy thought of doing this--but bein the way I am I forgot I have chronic diarehha and I have to take potassium and occ. an IV, so after thinking that thru about my SE (whic I still have) I thought against it hahaha

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2012

    Holy cow, I must be dreaming. Real science and critical thinking on the altie boards. I had to double check that I was in the right place.  Good answers.

    Apple is right.  Colonics can cause some real serious problems and even death.  Overdoing it on the coffee enemas  can cause bowel perferation, infection, over hydration and serious elecrtolyte imbalances.  The heart comprimise that Apple has mentioned is due to the electrolyte imbalances.  Sodium and potassium are depleted and can cause serious cardiac arrhythmias. People have  died.

    Quacks will tell you coffee enemas cleanse the bowel and detoxify the liver. They do nothing of the sort. It's just a really really gross way to get your caffiene fix.

    Re:  The body was designed to handle intake and out-take very cleverly and effectively.

    Yes, I would say this sums it up very nicely.

  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited May 2012

    Speechless, Black-cat.  Just speechless.

  • candygurl
    candygurl Member Posts: 130
    edited May 2012

    Smiley2. unlike naturopathic doctors, conventional health practitioners do not think colonics can improve overall health.  

    I had a colonic a few years ago. At the time my diet was not best to say the least, lots of red meat, baked potatoes and little bit of romaine lettuce  and barely any fruits. The colonic helped to get rid of my bloated belly and I had much more energy after that. I don't feel like I'll ever need to do another one simply because my diet is 1000x better now. And I've found other ways to detox.

    If you do decide to have a colonic, just make sure the person you go to is certified.  The colon hydrotherapist will use an isotonic solution with the treatment, which maintains proper electrolyte balance and helps regenerate good flora.  

    Among other condititions, people who have heart problems and women who are pregnant should not have colonics.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2012

    zuvart,

    Thanks for clarifying. I know many people who have had colonics and are fine. I will add this to my detox program!

    Norah

  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited May 2012

    I agree with zuvart.  I can totally see how a colonic would help someone whose eating habits are so terrible that they have basically compromised their intake/outtake system (good way to put it!).  However, I know that they would be that great for you on a regular basis and you would probably get a lot more benefit from eating healthily.

  • Adey
    Adey Member Posts: 3,610
    edited May 2012

    It's amazing what can be found even when eating well.  Be sure to find someone experienced.  You can find more info by researching Ann Wigmore.  Happy hunting.  (c:  Hope you find what works for you.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited May 2012

    kind of like the opposite of bulimia.  I have found it best that i not post in this forum, but eating disorders almost killed my sis and she still suffers.  natural and healthy is always the best.  simply avoiding meat and cheese can set one on tract. (haha)

  • vespersparrow
    vespersparrow Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2012
    I've been getting regular (couple times a month) colonics for several years now, ever since my diagnosis.  They were recommended to me by my naturopath as part of my detox, especially since I have been taking rounds of low-dose chelation drugs to gather up the heavy metals in my system, and then those compounds find their way into the bowel where they can be reabsorbed if they are not excreted quickly enough.  I don't find the colonics have created any sort of problems or dependency going to the bathroom, or imbalance in electrolytes, etc.  (Actually, maybe TMI, but I am more regular now than before I started)  What I do see is that my skin looks amazing now, and I'm losing fat off of the saddlebag area which I've never been able to do before.  Yay!  My hydrotherapist says she sees that happen all the time.  And well, I'm still here too.  So I have to say, personally I have found colonics to be worth the cost and mild discomfort they entail.  Smile
  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited May 2012

    Interesting, weedgirl, thanks for posting.  How did you find someone good?  Whenever I have considered it, I can never figure out how to locate a good practitioner.  

    I think Apple is right about meat and dairy.  Since eliminating meat, dairy, and sugar and moving to a plant-based diet, my skin looks amazing, too.  I was really surprised!  (And apple, you are always welcome here. I enjoy your posts.)

  • Shrek4
    Shrek4 Member Posts: 1,822
    edited March 2013
  • vespersparrow
    vespersparrow Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2012

    Hi Day,

    I hear you, but having a body full of lead and mercury and other nasties isn't entirely natural either, nor is breast cancer.  While I'm mostly into the natural remedies myself I think sometimes we also need to take therapeutic interventions that are more aggresssive such as colon cleansings, or high-dose supplementation, etc.  Whatever works, right?

    Sweetbean, I'd just ask around and maybe visit a few places and see what you think.  You could ask the hydrotherapist how long they've been doing it, how many cancer patients they've worked with, etc.  My therapist works at a clinic I trust, and most of the time she just flushes with pure water which has been working fine for me.  I think the biggest factor for me was getting okay with somebody messing with my patootie, LOL, but I just told myself that surviving cancer isn't for the faint of heart either and went for it, now it's no biggie.  

  • candygurl
    candygurl Member Posts: 130
    edited May 2012

    What interesting is that a colonic takes about 45 minutes, and that one colonic can rid the body of fecal matter equivalent to 20 bowel movements. And the average American has something like 5-40lbs of fecal matter stuck in their colon.



    I also dry fast once a month for 36hours and juice fast for 3 days once a month. I juice lots of cilantro which is great for detoxing heavy metals.

  • digger
    digger Member Posts: 590
    edited May 2012

    Is it really healthy to rid the body of 20 bowel movements in a matter of 45 minutes?

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited May 2012

    Let me restate my thought. Ive surfed all over trying to find some basis for the statement about carrying around 5-40lbs of fecal matter. I can only find it stated as fact on commercial sites selling colonic products. Were it true I would have lost a lovely amount of weight doing colonoscopies. So is there a Gastro or medical site that states this as a medical fact?. All I could come up with was a snopes article.



    This is more focused on a John Wayne myth but does speak to the issue:



    http://www.snopes.com/horrors/gruesome/fecalcolon.asp

  • candygurl
    candygurl Member Posts: 130
    edited May 2012

    The alternative modality centers on building the immune system and taking toxins out safely to heal the body instead of just putting toxins in to try and kill the cancer. Having said that, I’m sure we’ll agree that colonics are not going to be for everyone, especially those who think alternative treatments are just “quackery” or are the anal-retentive types who need to search the web to find clinical trials to justify something as simple as eating a serving of broccoli 4xs per week.



    To clarify, getting rid of old fecal matter that has been sitting in the body for years is a good thing, not a bad thing. And if we do the math, 20 bowel movements in 35 minutes is only one bowel movement in a little less than 2 minutes. That sounds reasonable to me. And colonics do not result in permanent weight loss nor are they a recipe for an eating disorder. Also, people are not dropping dead after having a colonic. I know that because I’m still here.



    Quite the opposite, colonics can help to reboot one’s health. That’s why colonics are growing in popularity. They are just not embraced on old-school medical forums. To be honest, I find that Stephen Barrett’s and Orac’s believers (and there are many of them on this board) are always usually late for the "get healthy" parties. When they finally realize that they’ve been duped, some who repeatedly “crash the parties”, do everything in their power to create confusion and discourage others from doing what it takes to get well.



    Anyways, if I had terminal cancer, being alternative-minded and extremely chemophobic, of course I’d have to use non-toxic therapies like Insulin Potentiated Low dose chemotherapy (IPLD), high dose intravenous vitamin c and oxidative therapies to target the cancer. And I would NOT be blasé about cleansing. Post chemo full body detoxification is extremely important. As the cancer cells die I wouldn’t want them circulating back into my system. Among other things, I would juice fast using plenty of carrots and wheatgrass, get lots of rest and sunshine, have colonics and do coffee enemas, and follow a strict raw food diet. To each their own, though.



  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited May 2012

    old fecal matter does not sit in the body for years unless you have some horrific disease.  anal retention for instance (joke) 

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited May 2012

    Years? If I had 40lbs of crap sitting in my colon for years, cranky would be the least of my issues.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited May 2012

    As the cancer cells die I wouldn’t want them circulating back into my system.

    If they're dead, what motivates them to circulate back into one's system?

    As for fecal matter sitting in the colon for years, that "might" be the case iff one has a really bad case of untreated diverticulitis, but, as I said before, the digestive system is extremely sophisticated and has very clever ways of handling intake, and managing out-take.  However, whatever floats your boat..... 

  • candygurl
    candygurl Member Posts: 130
    edited May 2012

    Colon Hydrotherapy Cleansing for Dummies

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kL6GIe-iu8

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