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Janis.. (((hugs)))... praying for a speedy recovery for you.. putting this all behind you..
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Drains are out
pain is still here ps gave me percocet 10mg now he said i was not overmedicating . and that it al lloks good he took bandages off . i didnt look yet . I cant poop again ugh life .. sennakot every day
he did say i can shower now and shave ,,and i have no restrictions except it hurts much to move still...Janis, i know the hospital stay was the worst . i couldnt pee i had my light on plus cried my eys out and noone came . finally had to call a friend to call ato desk to please come in .. i was in so much pain they had to put catheter in and how rude nurse said i never seen such wierd anatomy , i was devestaed .. so unproffesional .. i thought someting was wrong .. it was her not me
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OMG lisamarie and janis!!! You both have had such horrendous experiences!! I can relate!!
When I had my thyroid out, the night nurse took out my IV and left the room, never to be seen again. I was reading and happened to look over and saw blood running down the back of my hand (IV was in back of hand), deep, red blood. Blood I probably needed; now pooling in my bent elbow. I pressed the buzzer and then put a pad of my gown onto the site and pressed down hard to stop the bleeding. No one came!! Didn't they used to call through the intercom "Whadya WAAAANT??" Nothing. So I know so much how you felt!! I finally made my way down the hall to ask for a bandaid. Made to feel like I was interrupting their chat!!! They WERE going to make me wait for "my" nurse, but I shamed them into giving me a friggin' bandaid so I could put it on myself!!
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I am 50 years old, right in the middle and my diagnosis came on my birthday last year, well aug 12 and my op was the 31st and my birthday was the 27th, but i had miracale really as i rang up my gp about a medication change and they asked me if i had followed up on my mamogram, i live in new Zealand and its free for women 40 to 69, so i thought i had better to see to it and it ended up that i had a small cancer, but grade 3 ductal carcinoma that i did not know was there, i was actually Blase really, it turns out though the cancer was a very nasty form and once i was able to feel a lump, it would of been too late and i would of been gone before christmas if not terminal. they removed it, i had radiation and even though it was birthday and turning 50, i had the best present ever, a miracle as my life could of been over if i had not had the mamogram.
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It's funny, I don't feel that much older but MY DOG HAD HER SWEET 16 PARTY TODAY!

She can't hear, is getting cataracts, lost her bark, lost tail control, has doggie dementia, forgot every trick I taught her except how to shake hands, and falls down when she sneezes. She is still incredibly cute, and the look on her face in the pic is anticipation over the MEAT PUPCAKE baked for her (with filet mignon flavor pate for frosting.)
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Awww Eli - what a sweet pup! I have had some senior citizens myself, including a 22-yo siamese cat that we had had since our first week of marriage, and a couple of 17-yos. Now we have a 1-yo Boxer and a 4-yo Siamese. Too much excitement.
I want a meat pupcake!
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Welcome, midnight327! You are a true poster girl for early detection. I had a tiny 7mm lump that did not show up on digital mammogram, luckily for me it was not deep on the chest wall. It was just under my skin and I was very lucky I could easily feel it and take action before it had more chance to spread it's evil.
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madp, The secret was the frosting came from the cat food aisle. Ssshhh! Don't tell.
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HAPPY SWEET SIXTEEN TO THE PUP ..
hope everyone has a great day , I am off to my post op visit with BS at 1 :30 pm .. hugs to ya ll
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Wow! That dog doesn't look a day over 15!!
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I worked yesterday which helped take my mind off all of my crap and then had my hair done, that always helps me to feel better. I came home and took some Xanax and slept for 12 hours. That was absolutely wonderful.
Elimar- I thought about what you said about the whole staging thing and you are right. There are so many who only think they have one or two positive nodes because there docs don't take any more like mine did. They are then considered stage 2 when in reality could be stage IIIc like me. I really don't stress over the stage now, but it's the dam nodes like you said. I am going to call my reg doc and get the referral to DF like she said she would do.
Welcome midnight1327- these ladies are Angels.
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Diana, amazing what a good sleep can do. It sounds like you are in a better place today.
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I have a question for everyone regarding node involement? I am looking at all the diagnosis after your posts- An am seeing 0/2-2/2 and Diana's 17/17. The question I have, did any of you have neoadjunctive chemo? My sentinal node was 2/2- then after chemo they took 24 during surgery and those were clear.. I am 3b and was just trying to understand if it was the chemo that stopped the cancer from going any farther-thus the 0/24 after?
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Lory48- that was never even brougt up. Maybe because my cancer was mostly microscopic lobular. I didn't have any large tumors to shrink.
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Lory--it's not possible to know for sure if the chemo stopped the cancer from spreading past the sentinel nodes or if the sentinel nodes were doing their job well and stopped the cancer there. Neoadjuvent chemo is given to (1) determine if the cancer will respond to those specific chemo drugs and (2) to reduce the tumor size so that lumpectomy is an option. That chemo also circulates through the entire body and can attack any free floating cancer cells (especially those in the blood stream) is a bonus.
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NM wrote my answer for me. Thanks, NM!
Did any of you ever get a solicitation call from Breast Cancer Society? Located in Mesa, AZ I think they employ a third party to call for donations. I just now got a call. After she asked for a pledge, I said I was paying off debts relating to my own B/C. Her reply, "Let's not stop there. Some of these women are fighting for their lives and cannot even pay their rent." I repeated saying, "I had breast cancer and am still seeing doctors for it. I have my own expenses right now." She spoke over me to say an insincere "sorry" and "have a nice day" before hanging up on me.
Guess what? I AM going to have a nice day, even tho' it started out with her dumb phone call.
p.s. I just Googled and found lots of red flags for this Org. One scammy example is that the phone service they use is Associated Community Services, and that sometimes they represent themselves as ACS. Isn't that naughty! I thought I smelled a rat.
p.p.s. "Let's not stop there," is still cracking me up.
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Hi All,
This is my first post on this thread as I am looking to find the group I can most relate to. I am 63 and was diagnosed as Stage IV. I have bone mets which is actually how my cancer was discovered (the pain and it broke through the skin by the rib bone). Other than that I feel absolutely great. That said, I think my treatment options are more limited. I am ER+ so was recently started on Arimidex (1 mo ago). I was uninsured at diagnosis in Nov. so it took me a couple months to get insurance in place which I was able to find through the pre-existing insurance plan. In the interim I started the Budwig Diet Plan which I had researched on the internet and is an alternative treatment. The good thing about that is that I have lost 30 lbs and am eating healthy fruits, nuts and veggies. No sugar is allowed so I am also off that. It is well documented that sugar feeds the cancer. Interestingly when my onc had me go for a PET Scan for a baseline, I felt the rib bone pain again for a day or so (it is the cancer's rapid metabolism of the infused sugar solution which shows the areas of cancer on the scan) until the sugar was out of my system again. I have noticed only minor side affects so far of the Arimidex, a little joint stiffness until I get mysef moving and sometimes I feel tired for no reason but not always so it may not be the Arimidex. Are there others here who are diagnosed late stage and whose only treatment is Arimidex or another similar treatment?
An aside note to Lisa Marie, sorry to hear of your ordeal but it will get better. I noticed your post because of the Eastport NY which I think is near Rochester. (I lived in Lockport NY for 20 years). Anyway, a mo after my diagnosis, my first cousin was also diagnosed and chose the double mastectomy route and was in terrible pain for the first couple of weeks. The doctors kept telling her it was normal until she landed back in the hospital where they discovered she had an infection from the operation. They put in a port for the anti-biotics and now she is finally doing well and has just been told she will not have chemo or radiation but will be only having to take a pill. (I am assuming this is Arimidex or the like - she does not ask as many questions as I do and is in another state). So hang in there LisaMarie and never be afraid to trust your own instincts when it comes to pain, you should not have to suffer.
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Welcome NNBBFL - This is a great thread, very supportive. I love Boynton Beach and lived there for several years! I sure do miss the ocean!!
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Hello, NNBBFL! We have a wide variety of women here, all Dx's, at all stages of treatment and beyond We try our best to inform and support, however, you may find your best match in one of the Stage IV groups, and you might like the Alternative forum also. Check the Forum Index at the top of this page. You are welcome to pop in here as often as you would like, and if this is where you relate best.
With you being ER+/PR+, Arimidex makes a lot of sense, as it is the hormones stimulating the growth of your cancer. If you are thinking, why no regular chemo? Well, that is not the best for ER+/PR+, and may not even have much effect on you. I am sure the doctors will be monitoring you just as carefully as they would a chemo patient, and you will know the effect the Arimidex is having the next time they scan you and compare.
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Thanks for the Welcome Dechi and Elimar....I am just learning my way around this site and will save this thread as a favorite so that I can pop back in from time to time. I may try the Alternative forum as well, thanks for that suggestion. Actually I had to really think about the hormone treatment and it made sense to me since it is specific and not an all out attack on my imune system. Luckily for me that is the best treatment option, as at this point I would have rejected regular chemotherapy. In the end my strong personal belief is that a healthy body and immune system is our best hope in managing this disease.
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For NNBBFL, any anyone postmenopausal taking Tamoxifen:
Hot Off the Presses...Last week the Journal of the National Cancer Instutite reported findings from two big studies (ATAC and BIG) that indicated that CYP2D6 liver enzyme is not predictive as far as effectiveness in the postmanopausal women studied. Tamox. benefitted ALL metabolizers, extensive, intermediate, and poor.
I am not sure what premenopausal woman, still making a lot more estrogen, can draw from this.
Have to give credit to my scientific husband, who forwards me articles I would need a subscription for. It's his way of showing that he cares.
p.s. Sherryc, From what you wrote below, this article is for you too.
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Welcome to the newbies!
Today is one year from diagnosis for me....I'm grateful for another year of life!
I'm also praying for 15 year old Julia today...the daughter of my friend. She is having her surgery today for her peritoneal cancer. The doctors told her parents that she is only the 2nd documented case of this cancer in a teenager. Her surgery will last for at least 10 hours. They are trying to remove all of the cancer (ovary, intestine, liver, abdominal lining) and are washing her abdomen with chemo for two hours after the actual surgery to try to kill any remaining cells that were missed. We're praying for a miracle...that's what the doctors say she needs. The longest known survivor for this cancer is 10 years out and that's rare.
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I was not on this weekend and had to read several pages. Now I can't remember what I read.
Diana-do get a second or third opinion.
I went to the endocrinologist last week and he ran all my adrenal and hormone test. Six months ago I was pre menopausal and no where close to being in menopause this time I was post menopausal. Can't believe I went from one extreme to the other in 6 months. I told DH my birthdays have never bothered me but something about being post menopausal does. IDK, anyway I see my MO on Friday so will bring it up to him. I was off my tamox for 6 weeks while I had my BMX and just started back on it a week ago. I had so many SE's the first time around but so far this time my SE's have been pretty minimal. So I think I shouldn't rock the boat for awhile. My BMX was 6 weeks ago and I feel great, I don't even notice the TE's anymore.
Janis and I think Lisa can't believe what bad experience you had in the hospital. I had such a great experience. The hospital put a new call system in and it is through the phone system and all the nurses and aids carry cordless phones and at the beginning of the shift they write their name and numbers on the white board in the room. So every time I needed them I called they answered and even if they were with someone else I never knew it they were so attentive. Never once used the old call system.
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LC-Barb, I was wondering what was happening with her. It would be so incredible if this worked for her, and so encouraging for the others young ones that get this rare cancer.
Congrats on getting thru' your first year, which is the usually thehardest for a good number of us.
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Lory, I had neoadjuvant chemo as well. Although the main tumor responded well to the chemo, I did not have a 100% path response. At the time of surgery, there were still live cancer cells in 7 nodes, as well as in the breast.
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Momine- from things I have read I think the difference in how well it will respond is if it is ILC or IDC. We happen to have the smart ass cancer. All of them suck though.
I usually only drink decaf, but I had to make a pot of high test coffee to come out of my Xanax coma this morning. Now I know not to take it the night before work or take it right after supper.
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Hi all. I have a question out there for any BRCA+ moms out there. If there are any who have daughters that have been tested or thinking about getting tested, I could really use your imput. I really need to know what to expect from a genetic counsler. Thanks!
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iI am a little niaeve of all these abreviations, DX etc and BMX etccan anyone put me straight as to what those abbreviations mean. i had a lumpectomy after they found grade 3 Breast cancer, HER+ and my biggest fear is it RETURNING. I am om Tamox for 5 years, 4.5 of those to go with this treatment, mamogram this month, 6 months after radio therapy and my boob is quite sore, which is common after radaiation, am not looking forward to the mamagram as that machine pressed down on the boob and already sore when you touch it, but would appreciate knowing about DX and BMX if somebody could help me with that.
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Midnight -- check out the abbreviations for newbies forum. It will answer all your questions. DX stands for diagnosis and bmx is bilateral mastectomy.
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Woah, woah, woah! I know somebody asked me about the Abbreviations for Newbies, and if I could post a link to it, so I did! Right here, at the top of the page, underneath the opening post. Around here, all a Newbie has to do is ask for something and poof! there it is. That's just how accomodating I am, so all you Newbies BETTER USE THAT LINK!
(Just kidding about the yell.)
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