DCIS and Mastectomy?

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  • mom3band1g
    mom3band1g Member Posts: 817
    edited July 2011

    Yes, the saline was warm but the silicone is cold!  Something I did not expect!  I can be hot and yet the foob are cold.  It's a very odd thing.  I think the saline takes on our body temp but the silicone can't. 

  • pkb3937
    pkb3937 Member Posts: 54
    edited July 2011

    I am glad I found this post.  I am 3 months post my BMX.  I am glad with my decision also.  No rads or tamoxifin needed.  I think I am just now feeling normal again.  My diagnosis made my world stop spinning.  I felt like it was an "out of body experience".  Has anyone with DCIS (BMX), had any cancer develope?  I know the worry will always be there, but my oncologist says my chances of  developing breast cancer are almost zero. Yet, when I surf the internet, there is always a story that scares the mess out of me. 

  • Jen42
    Jen42 Member Posts: 246
    edited July 2011

    Hopeful Future -- my support group is a very positive experience. I hope yours will be, too. I'm sure a lot depends on what women show up and how the leader runs it? I was so worried when I first went that it would be highly emotional and upsetting. I attended two meetings prior to my surgery...one when I was first diagnosed and trying to figure out what to do...the other the week before my surgery. It was so good for me to see women who had been thru surgery and recon and all the emotional stuff and had come out on the other side saying "it's no picnic but you can do it". A couple of them even had used the same team of doctors I had been referred to, so that was really helpful ! I hope I can be as helpful to any "newbie" that comes to the meetings now.

    Thinking about being back at work soon is weird, isn't it? Right now I can't even imagine it. And don't want to. I have 4 weeks to go.  I have a physical job (Fed Ex courier) and I am worried about being able to lift heavy things again...and the mental side of having to answer people's questions, etc. My co-workers can sometimes be "toxic" -- it's a small, rural station full of gossip -- and before I went out on disability for the BMX I was letting it get to me. I hope to go back and not get sucked in to the pettiness. I keep telling myself, don't sweat the small stuff -- and it's ALL small stuff after cancer diagnosis and body-altering surgery !

    I have saline implants and skin over my foobs is warm to touch.

  • Kristi_in_MO
    Kristi_in_MO Member Posts: 42
    edited July 2011

    Thanks for posting, this is my situation exactly.  Only had DCIS in right, but went ahead with bilateral skin and nipple sparing mastectomy.  For me I felt this was the best option for reconstruction (not having to do radiation) and not having to take tamoxifen either.  I have less fear of it coming back.  My reconstruction will take approx. 4 mos. and hopefully they will look pretty again down the road.  Right now, I look more like a sharpei.  Ugh.  Best wishes to you all.

  • sbelle50
    sbelle50 Member Posts: 5
    edited August 2011

    I opted for a BMX March 2010 after being diagnosed with DCIS in my left breast.  I had DIEP flap reconstruction followed by 2 additional surgeries to get it right.  I am so happy that I did and feel much more relieved than worrying about it every year when it was time to get my mammogram.  I was told that I didn't have to take Tamoxifin but was also told I didn't have to have any more mammograms!  I know several people whose cancer has come back after BMX and was wondering what other drs are saying.  I feel very vulnerable.

  • HopefulFuture
    HopefulFuture Member Posts: 54
    edited September 2011

    Sbelle50 - I've heard that no more mammos are needed too, but I've also heard that there are new machines coming out that are tailored to women with mastectomies. I will be getting silicone implants, so I will be getting MRIs every two years per my breast surgeon. Personally, I might want to do the MRIs every year because I'm worried about leaking. I have no idea if my insurance will cover that. I am a bit worried about recurrence too - that would really suck after going through a BMX!



    Kristi in MO - hope you are feeling good and looking less like a sharpei. :)



    Jen42 - I'm back at work and it was weird at first, but now it's fine. Most people don't really know what I went through (BMX). How is being back going for you? How's the lifting going?

  • cbecchetti
    cbecchetti Member Posts: 11
    edited September 2011

    I am reading thru the posts as I am trying to decide what to do next.  DCIS was discovered in right breast in July.  In early Aug I had my first lumpectomy which was not clear, 2nd re-exicision mid Aug was better but still not clear on one side.  BS says that since this is low grade, the cells are so scattered and I don't have a family history of BC (however, we do have Uterine and some Ovarian), we should check MRI of both breasts before deciding what to do next.  She doesn't want to do another re-exicsion and it come back without clear margins.  Guess what, I didn't fit in the MRI machine since I am overweight with a very big hind end.  BS says, we should do hormone therapy (not with the Tamoxifen) and wait for me to loose weigth - are you kidding? With all the stress I have been under waiting and waiting, even just a week is hard and all I want to do is eat.   

    Some of you have said that this is the reason you did Mastectomy and one person mentioned that she wished she had because the 6 month checks and additional biospys is hard to wait.  I hadn't thought about that part.  I have always had the choice of a Mastectomy.  Most everything I read tells me that's the route to go, BS has already removed 6cm of tissue which is not all DCIS since it is so scattered. I do worry about the other breast, afterall, the left was the one they were concerned about 3 yrs ago. Without being able to fit in the MRI machine - I am at a loss.  BS also said the new Gamma machines won't work for me (not sure why - I haven't found anything saying it is not good for DCIS). 

    You are all couragous women. This weekend is decision time for me.

  • Jen42
    Jen42 Member Posts: 246
    edited September 2011

    Hopeful Future:  my first 2 weeks back at work were brutal. I was so sore and so fatigued...I felt like I had the flu. But by 3rd week back ,things were better, and now I just finished my 4th week and am feeling almost back to "normal". My foobs are starting to feel more like a part of me, I never thought that would happen ! Glad that your re-entry into work is going OK. It's little bit mentally hard, too, don't you think? We've been thru such a  major thing and yet with clothes on, no one knows. There's negatives and postives to that...I am doing pretty well at not "sweating the small stuff" like I used to. Trying to have something good come of having a BMX.

    cbecchetti: good luck with your decision-making. I am sorry you have the added complication of being overweight, and you are right, the stress you are under is not conducive to being able to lose the weight right now! Sending you hugs...

  • HopefulFuture
    HopefulFuture Member Posts: 54
    edited September 2011

    Cbecchetti - Sorry to hear about your challenges with the MRI machine. Perhaps your doctor can do an ultrasound on both breasts, at a minimum? Have you been tested for the BRCA mutation? Just wondering since breast and ovarian are strongly linked in mutation carriers, and it sounds like ovarian runs in your family. This can also be a major deciding factor in whether or not to get a mastectomy.



    Jen42 - It is definitely mentally hard being back at work. It's easy for me to slide back into my old behavior and work overtime, etc. I have a very stressful job with a lot of responsibility and it's so hard to relax. I am trying to work out here and there as stress relief but during the week I am reverting back to old behavior. I am trying to change, but it's hard!



  • Jen42
    Jen42 Member Posts: 246
    edited September 2011

    Hopeful Future:  change IS hard. And it's not a linear progression...just keep trying to make the right choices each day...some days you'll win and some days you won't...Try to put yourself first and everything else can line up behind that. Easier said than done, I know. But I'm cheering for you !

  • HopefulFuture
    HopefulFuture Member Posts: 54
    edited September 2011

    Thanks for the advice Jen42! Cheering right back for you too.

  • ghety
    ghety Member Posts: 478
    edited September 2011

    I had DCIS and chose BMX with reconstruction. Almost 3 years ago. No regrets. I would make the same choice today

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    Hi Ladies!

    I was 49 at DX, caught on my very first mammo! I had an excisional biopsy because of the size of the concerned area, I guess it was more of a lumpectomy. The path report came back with 3 dirty margins so I had to decide where to go from there. I was only a AA cup to begin with so taking another "golf ball sized" area of tissue from this teeny boob would not have left much over. I also did not want to go through more retries if they did not get it all and I was also worried about having to do 6 weeks of rads if another lumpectomy was successful. After much consideration and weighing all my pros and cons a UNIMX was the best route for me! I have not considered recon and just wanted to get on with my life with the least amount of interruptions as possible..........I was also a big chicken of having more surgeries! So, my surgeon gave me a neat and tidy flat chest on the right side. Most days I am comfy with the decision but I must admit sometimes I think it would be nice to have both sides match!

  • nicugrannie
    nicugrannie Member Posts: 1
    edited September 2011

    I was dx with stage 0 on the left 7 years ago and opted for full mastectomy with implant.  I have never been sorry until recently when I started having pain under the implant.  It's not the mastectomy that I regret but the implant itself.  I wonder if I would be less concerned now if I didn't have the implant.

  • kcshreve
    kcshreve Member Posts: 1,148
    edited September 2011

    I had DCIS on right side, and chose bmx with DIEP reconstruction.  BS told me rads or mx.  I have autoimmune problems and worried about skin reactions to rads.  Also worried about location of DCIS, which was very deep and near my chest wall - rads could complicate lung or heart issues.  When BS heard of autoimmune, she said, "that takes rads off the table. You'll need to decide between one mx or two."  One sister and two cousins have had breast cancer recently, so I decided to have both done  in Jan 2010 and stop the worrying.  The DIEP results are great, no complaints (went to New Orleans). I've been glad for the decision, since I'm a worrier, but i do miss my breasts.  Can't have it both ways.  I was told the chance for recurrence after a mx is around 2%, which is reassuring.

  • Oki88
    Oki88 Member Posts: 169
    edited September 2011

    Hi ladies -- I was diagnosed w/ DCIS in March 2011 after my FIRST mammogram. There is no BC in my family history! I had a lumpectomy March, the pathology report showed multifocal DCIS and widespread ADH (atypical ductual hyperplasia) and they didn't get clear margins. My BS recommended atleast a uni-lateral mx. After several more test (BRCA, MRI, bloodwork) - I made the decision to have a BMX w/ immediate recon (TEs). I had my surgery in June 2011. I did this to give myself the lowest risk and peace of mind. 

    I'm still going thru the reconstruction process but I am happy with the decision I made.

  • rcox
    rcox Member Posts: 10
    edited September 2011

    Hi everyone - so glad to find this thread!  I was diagnosed in April 2011 through mammo and stereostatic biopsy.  My only family history was my mother going through DCIS (with lumpectomy and rads) 2 years ago.  Having very large breasts, I took the lumpectomy route figuring a little unevenness wouldn't be so horrible.  However, no clear margins.  After the second re-excision and SND (all clear there, thank goodness!) and having a full 1/2 of one side completely gone, my medical team sat me down and said that while they got good enough margins, they didn't think I was a good candidate for rads because the area they ended up taking out totalled over 9cm and only 2-3 of those had shown on mammo and none at all on MRI.  They were concerned that they wouldn't be able to effectively see a recurrence if it happened. 

    That was the final straw.  I'm getting through this day by day, but it's a fight.  If I had to spend the rest of my life worrying with every screen whether or not it was back, I don't know if I could be that strong.  Luckily, the final path confirmed the decision as they found yet another area of 2-3 cm in another quadrant. The only decision I might change with a 2nd chance would be not doing the BMX after the 1st lumpectomy.

    It's a rollercoaster every day, but I'm glad I went with the BMX with TE's.  Still having pain issues and had first fill last week, but looking forward to a future with minimal worry that we'll ever have to deal with this again. 

  • Jen42
    Jen42 Member Posts: 246
    edited September 2011

    rcox:  being able to not worry so much about recurrence is huge, isn't it ?!?! I had a dream the other night that my doctors told me I had another lump somewhere in my body but they didn't know where yet. I woke up freaked out for a second...then told myself, "you had early-stage, NON-INVASIVE cancer and a BMX to stop everything in its tracks, this is not a premonition ! Just a weird dream because bc is on your mind, only being 4 mos post op."  Let me tell you...if I had only gone for lumpectomy and had that dream, I would be scaring myself silly !

    Recovering from BMX / recon  is definitely a roller-coaster ride. But it gets better. Hang in there!

  • rcox
    rcox Member Posts: 10
    edited September 2011

    jen42:  Thanks so much for the kind words.  I keep trying to tell myself and others that I'm chalking each day up to a new adventure.  You and I both know that the worst is behind us, but sometimes the fight just becomes so exhausting.  Having one of those pain days today and got a pep talk from my DH.  He just made me yell a big cheer with him celebrating the fact that we're in the home stretch. 

    Cheers to all the ladies out there, home stretch or not!  We're pretty darned amazing!

  • Jen42
    Jen42 Member Posts: 246
    edited September 2011

    rcox:  the best advice I got was from my Mom, who was 6 months in to recovering from a shattered ankle (that surgeon said give a full year before considered fully recovered) while I was recovering from BMX. She said to just take it 5 minutes at a time. To think about the recovery process in terms of weeks or months can be too overwhelming and disheartening. But anyone can get thru "another 5 minutes". That idea helped keep me going.

  • HopefulFuture
    HopefulFuture Member Posts: 54
    edited September 2011

    Jen42 - Sorry to hear about that dream. I worry every day about a recurrence! I worry that drinking wine will create a new bc in the skin or remaining tissue. I worry about my diet and getting enough antioxidants. Ugh. I don't think we'll ever be the same once diagnosed. I totally agree about the roller coaster ride!



    RCox - Your husband sounds amazing. Once the surgery is done, you are definitely on your way down the home stretch. :)



    Cheers to all of us brave women who made this surgical choice.

  • alliesmom15
    alliesmom15 Member Posts: 106
    edited September 2011

    I had a BMX on May 27th and do not regret it.  My surgeon gave me the option of a lumpectomy with rads and Chemo with a chance of recurrence on that side or mirroring the cancer on the other side.  I didnt want to have a lumpectomy and have them take half my breast while having my natural breast creating a totally uneven appearance.

    I asked him what he would do and he said if I was his sister or mother sitting there he would recommend the BMX.  I had pretty much made up my mind before I had gone in there to talk to him but after seeing the options I was positive that is what I would do.  I really cried when I figured out they could not spare the nipple on the one side but Cancer is not something I want to ever come back.

    I had immediate reconstruction after wards  but got to spare the nipple on one side and some of the Areola on the cancer side so once I get my nipple I will feel somewhat normal.  I am seeing a dr about the fat trasfers to add fat over the implant to get rid of the uneveness and ripples.  She showed me stretches that hurt like hell but have improve my mobility so much that I am feeling normal.

    The only thing that reminds me often of it is I cannot feel anything, which is devastating to me at times.  This might be TMI but my breasts were such a source of sexual pleasure and I no longer have that and it makes it really hard when it comes time to be intimate, I feel like I have a mental block now and am trying to get over it. 

    Other than that huge hurdle I dont mind them too much, I never wear a bra and love that.

    I feel blessed that I didnt have to do any rads or chemo and am not doing anything else.  I had three different opinions from 3 different oncologists, the majority recommended none saying it would do more harm than good.  Still worry sometimes but have to keep my faith that God will continue his blessings keeping me cancer free.

    I take so many antioxidants and try to eat lots of fruits and veggies.  Sometimes I catch myself eating junk and feel guilty, taking that day by day trying to do my best.

    Forgot to note that I have no family history, work out, eat fairly healthy, discovered my nipple changing and discovered the cancer on my very first mammo.

  • Jen42
    Jen42 Member Posts: 246
    edited September 2011

    alliesmom:  just read your post and can't believe the similar story to mine. I also had my BMX on May 27. I also would have been left with 1/2 a breast if I went with lumpectomy. My surgeon also said he would tell his wife/sister/daughter to go with BMX if this was their situation. I too feel very lucky to not have to have any further treatments. I eat well as much as possible, with some days doing better than others. I'm also a Jen. I turned 43 in June. Smile

    Differences:  I did have family history. And I found the lump...4 previous mammos showed nothing (I started at 39 with those). I found the lump a year ago, had it biospied, it came back benign, an intraductal pappilloma (wart-like growth in milk duct). This happened same week I had to get my gallbladder removed, so I was happy to put the idea of breast cancer on a shelf and concentrate on the surgery at hand. At the next year's gyno appt, my doctor recommended I get the lump checked again because it felt slightly bigger. Breast center did another ultrasound and skipped the biopsy, recommending I get the lump removed. Had it  removed on March 30 and it turned out to be the "tip of the iceberg". The DCIS was hiding under it. That surgery did not get clean margins...and the rest is history.

    I so truly believe in self-exams and mammos. Early detection can make so much difference. We are the lucky ones in breast cancer world.

  • LadyGrey57
    LadyGrey57 Member Posts: 6
    edited September 2011

    Hi All, 

     I had my BMX with no reconstruction on August 8th.  I have had my ups and downs with it (bacterial infection and now physical thearpy on the right side).  But, I am so "at peace" with my decision.  It was so liberating to stop taking tamoxifen, cancelling the mamo scheduled for November and to stop worrying "if it returned".  It is not a decision that I took lightly and up until the last moment I had second thoughts.  But, my dear Mother-in-law who passed from Breast Cancer in 2007 was my inspiration and my rock...she was with me in spirit and gave me the strength to make the hardest decision of my life.  Love ya and miss you Mom...Carol

  • alliesmom15
    alliesmom15 Member Posts: 106
    edited September 2011

    Jen we could be twins in another life if we were the same age LOL  I turned 42 in JuneSmile

    I also would have had almost half my breast taken off with the lumpectomy and decided I didnt want to be uneven, and taking a chance that it might mirror itself on the other side just made my decision a little easier.

  • melissa-5-19
    melissa-5-19 Member Posts: 391
    edited September 2011

    Yes I had a double MX on Oct 19, 2009 and have been quite happy with my results-I did not have recon as I opted for NO more surgery. My rt breast was +DCIS, left was questionable so what the heck-did them both and do not have any worries.

  • ourfamily22584
    ourfamily22584 Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2012

    Just joined in I have low grade DCIS  on one side and my surgery scheduled for June.  I opted for BMX and immediate recon with the one step implant method. No family history just a shock for every one I know.  Are you satisfied with your decision?  You here stuff everyday I'm wondering if this is drastic choice.  I talk about it like its a walk in the park like my surgeons but deep inside I'm scared of the unknown I guess.  My head spins everyday waiting for the day to come. Any thoughts or tips?

  • bellamarie
    bellamarie Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2012

    i am having a mastecotomy on 5-4 with tissue expanders  i am getting so nervous any advise on how to get through this week..?

  • Kristi_in_MO
    Kristi_in_MO Member Posts: 42
    edited May 2012

    For me, it was definitely the right decision.  I was more fearful of not doing the BMX than of doing it.  My only advice is not to expect them to be "good as new" or look like they would if you had only implants.  I had nipple and skin-sparing mastectomy bilaterally and was surprised some by the results.  At 41 years old, I still would make the same choice for me, but keep the following in mind:

    Because so much tissue was removed, I still look awfully thin above my breast area - looks like a slight depression area there above my breast and below the clavicle.  One nipple (ironically the breast that did not have cancer) healed too slowly and the nipple is flattened and not at all pretty, while the other turned out beautiful.  BIGGEST ISSUE - Both implants were placed under the muscle and so I've noticed they look incredibly deformed when I flex those muscles.  The breasts move out to the sides and I get what looks like a sharpei (lots of wrinkles) on each breast while flexed.  Not a problem, except . . . . in a swimsuit I think it will be for me.  For instance, I am very nervous about lying down and then trying to get up in anything revealing (it is very obvious). 

    I will ultimately do tatooing on the nipples and hopefully be able to have them do some of the 3-D shading on the one that healed improperly, but plastic surgeon said attempting to reconstruct the nipple is usually not a great result, may cause more scar tissue, etc. Again, these are only my specifics.  Also, my seatbelt still hurts me.  Had to have my husband by me one of the fuzzy seatbelt protector things, because the lack of tissue there is still an issue ( I am now 10 mos. P/O BMX).  Perhaps if I had a different surgeon, was willing to go with larger implants, or didn't attempt to keep my original nipples, some of the other (muscle flexing related) issues would have been less apparent.  Just some things worth thinking about.

  • GreenMonkey
    GreenMonkey Member Posts: 666
    edited May 2012

    Bella! you're here :)  Well, you're almost through the week. Tomorrow is your day. I'll be sending you lots of love, and healing energy! 

    I just want to add, that I have no regrets regarding my decision to have a BMX.  Especially since my final pathology report showed (in addition to DCIS) LCIS, ADH (pre DCIS) and ALH (pre LCIS) in both breasts. The LCIS and ALH was NOT picked up in my mammogram, or in two biopsy's. Even though my PS did a terrible job with my TE placement and I needed revision surgery (new PS) I still have no regrets regarding my treatment for DCIS. 

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