Any words of wisdom for Taxol?

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lanagraves
lanagraves Member Posts: 596
edited June 2014 in Stage III Breast Cancer

Will finish up AC next week then four Taxol. My MO swears the Taxol is easier. I sure hope so, because the AC has been HORRIFIC. Anybody been there and live to tell the tale?

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  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited April 2012

    I did Taxol.  My doctor had me do 12 weekly treatments instead of one larger dose every three weeks.  She said they would be easier to tolerate.  I have to say she was right about the Taxol.  Much easier than the A/C and I vacationed, ate and drank like normal.  I really felt great!  Cell counts were good and didn't need neulasta.  My hair started to grow back while on Taxol too....very slowly, but started growing.

    :o)

  • Josiekat
    Josiekat Member Posts: 85
    edited April 2012

    I did AC. (yuck) Now I am almost finished 12 low dose taxol (3 left).

    For me it was night and day. AC was brutal for 3-4 days.

    I have had little to no symptoms on Taxol.

    Good luck!

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited April 2012

    Same here, 12 weekly Taxol after 4 dose dense A/C treatments.  They gave me Benadryl with each Taxol infusion so almost immediately would shut my eyes!  Hair grew back the last month of Taxol infusions. My onc told me hair would grow back and Taxol would be much easier on me.  She was right!  Best of luck!  Hugs

  • MaxineO
    MaxineO Member Posts: 555
    edited April 2012

    I did the 4 DD taxol, and it was WAY easier to tolerate than the A/C.  I also slept through most infusions, thanks to benadryl.  Taxol can cause neuropathy, so ask your infusion center about icing fingers and toes (it should help nail issues too).  My hospital had ice-pack mittens and booties. Boy were they cold! But I had NO issues with neuropathy.

    Best of luck to you and CONGRATS on being done with the A/C!!!

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited April 2012

    Ditto what everyone else said

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited April 2012

    I had the 4 DD Taxol, and it was much easier than A/C. Less fatigue, no nausea. I had some neuropathy in the 4-5 days after. It was like electric shocks randomly in my calves and shins. I also had some thumb/first finger neuropathy. It got better as the treatments progressed. All SE's went away soon after the final chemo. I did not get hair regrowth during Taxol unfortunately. It was the last straw to the very few eyelashes and brows I did have. My last chemo was 1/11/2012, and I have already had to have my brows threaded about 6 weeks ago, and my eyelashes are nearly their full length. I'm wearing my own hair as well, although it's very short.

  • faithfulheart
    faithfulheart Member Posts: 544
    edited April 2012

    Taxol, way better then A/C!!!!!!!!!!!

    You get your life back, you can funtion much better. Congrats on almost being done with the worst!!

    The red devil they call it!!!

    It gets those nasty stray cells that could be lurking though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    good luck!!!

  • Laurie09
    Laurie09 Member Posts: 313
    edited April 2012

    Ditto what others say, Taxol was easier than AC! 

    I've seen a few people say they had the opposite experience - that the Taxol was harder, but in general I think most people would tell you the taxol is way easier.

    I had such bad fatigue with the AC.  That wasn't a problem with the taxol.  I did have muscle pain with taxol which was kind of annoying, but it still was so much easier than the AC.  

    Good luck to you!

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited April 2012

    Definitely easier than AC. I am having #8 taxol tomorrow. I have bone pain/aching for several days and some fatigue but I could barely lift my head on AC. Anything is better than that. Good luck!!

  • financegirl
    financegirl Member Posts: 114
    edited April 2012

    Had mastectomy, 4 DD A/C and then 4 DD Taxotere and on Arimidex now.  I had taxotere and was told it and taxol are very similar.   A/C took my hair, caused nausea and I was beyond exhausted.  My treatments were every other week  and during taxotere I was able to get out more often and enjoy life.  It took all my fingernails and toenails which grew back relatively quickly; the hair is coming back but slowly.   It caused neuropathy but drugs eased that. 

    I did what the onc said - I listened to my bodyn during all treatment.  If I was tired, I rested; if not, get out and enjoy the weather on good days but don't overdo it.  I used common sense and normal precautions (avoided sick people, washed hands a lot, etc) and I had no problem. A/C OTOH, caused neutropenia and required a two day hospital stay. 

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited April 2012

    Same as everyone here.  I had 12 treatments, tho, and my last two or three tired me waaaay out, so watch out when you are in your 4 of 4, you'll need a few days off.  But NOTHING like AC.  I liked especially the advice about icing your hands and feet, becuz a year later and I've got some rather bothersome and permanent neuropathy in my feet.  Of course, I'm in my 60s, so I'm not like everybody else in stamina or repair time, that sort of thing.  I also had a little neuropathy in my right foot and ankle to begin with from a car wreck, so that explains a little of it.

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited April 2012

    I have, and the good news (at least for me) Taxol was MUCH more tolerable.  I had some terrible SE's from A/C.  The one odd thing I did have w/Taxol was abdominal pain for about a day or two after which my onc said was not a SE of Taxol, but it happened every time just like clockwork and when I was done w/tx never ocurred again---so I can't see what else it could have been!  I actually went back to work (albeit part time) while I was on Taxol.  Did have some neuropathy in my feet but that went away after tx too. (Oh, 4 DD tx, every 2 weeks)

    You can do this!

    Sharon 

  • Goodie
    Goodie Member Posts: 244
    edited April 2012

    Same with me - AC is much harder on  your system.  But Taxol was emotionally harder on me because I had to go every Tuesday and it felt like I never got a break.  I'm so glad the chemo is over but I miss my chemo nurses.  They are awesome!  So, it was nice to see them weekly!  :)

     I did get the discoloration on my nails (I didn't ice them) and a tiny bit of neuropathy.  The benedryl made me tired the first day and then the steroids made me wired the next day.  I guess when I got used to the schedule it was all over. LOL 

     Good luck!  It seems like it will never end but it will!  :)

  • mumito
    mumito Member Posts: 4,562
    edited April 2012

    Taxol gave me more mouth,nails and achy joint issues then AC.Use the cold packs on feet and hands.Buy the biotine mouthwash and if thrush still develps get a presciption for that ahead of time.It throws the bodies ph way off wack.Hang in there it is all doable.((hugs))

  • edot
    edot Member Posts: 72
    edited April 2012

    Taxol was much easier for me as well.  I did the 12 weekly tx.  I think it was easier because the dose was smaller, not so much steroid, and taxol was easier to tolerate. Having said that, I had steroids, two antihistamines and anti nausea before my infusion, plus emend.  Then they  let me "marinate" for 20 minutes so the antihistamines would take hold. Then the taxol, and the nurse would always be especially near for the first 20 minutes of the infusion incase I had a reaction. Never did.

    I slept through my infusion, too.... antihistamines. 

    My doctor also prescribed prilosec (omiprazole) because it gave me awful reflux. In fact, I was on 40 mg/day the whole time I was on chemo, and it really helped. Usually didn't take it on my off chemo weeks, but I needed it almost the whole time I was on taxol.

    My counts never dropped, my hair started to grow back and I once had to drive the afternoon after my morning treatment. It was ok, and not far. So different from AC, where I was lost in space for 4 or 5 days. 

    I did have a fungal infection in my mouth twice, so make sure you have access to antifungals.  It might have been leftover from the AC, who knows? 

    I didn't have any problem with my nails - they actually were stronger than they'd ever been (maybe it was lack of activity). 

    My onc gave me vitamin B6 while I was on taxol, had very minimal neuropathy.  Of course I kept the lovely steroid bloat, and was flushed the whole time. 

    It can be hard on you, so if it is, don't feel bad in addition to feeling like crap. I was really nervous about it when I started because I'd heard of allergic reactions. But, they were very careful. 

    I hope you'll do well too. {{{{}}}}

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited April 2012

    I agree with most of the others. I had 3 AC/DD because I couldn't hack the 4th...started 12 weekly taxols after that. They were a cinch except having to go weekly. I am 12 weeks PFC and still have a slight neuropathy in my toes...no big deal....never feel it except when I am sitting...walking is fine. Hair is finally covering my entire head...for a long time I had no hair in the front...am going topless these days and not too many people stare at me.

  • WonderGrant
    WonderGrant Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2012

    Words of wisdom, not sure. But I can share my experiences. I am 9 months post chemo, 4 rounds of AC followed by 12 rounds of Taxol. For me, the lasting effects of the Taxol have been brutal. I am still dealing with a significant amount of neuropathy. I continued to exercise, jogging short paces during my whole entire chemo regimen. My neighbors got use to seeing me bald, crying and puking on the side of the road. Needless to say, it wasn't a good look but I was given the advice that it would prevent the neuropathy from becoming permanent. I have such severe joint pain that if it is cold, I can not get out of bed. My face and nose tingle constantly. I finally gave in and started taking a lose dose of Cymbalta. It is helping somewhat. I am Triple Negative, rumor has it that we are hit the hardest with everything so who knows. My Dr. has told me that it will take a full year to recover from the chemo so I should remain optimistic. Hope this helps.

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited May 2012

    I too am doing research on the transition for A/C to Taxol trying to determine how to work and on what schedule while I'm on Taxol. I have myself in a complete panic over fear of long-term neuropathy side-effects from Taxol. I'm so sorry to hear for those that have it. I'm a lifetime runner too. I started to cry driving by the running trail the other night about not being able to run in the short-term. It is really only through reading online forums today that I came to understand the potential for long-term side-effects. I am still new to this and absorbing everything. I only have one A/C treatment under my belt. It was 6 days of hell and I'm super concerned about financial issues from not working but I have food, electricity, gas, and a car and can keep that going for a while if I don't pay my mortgage. I'm at least happy to hear that not all experience these long-term side effects. I'm a total mess in like a dozen ways right now but doing my best to believe in myself I can get through this and some how.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2012

    Guess it seems most of you had better luck dealing with Taxol.  However, just the opposite for me.  I had 4 AC treatments, with really minimal fatigue and little or no bone pain.  Then we started dose dense Taxol and immediately after the first dose, every bone in my body hurt so bad that most nights I cried and moaned because of pain.  Even celexa didn't help much for the pain!!  As a result of that first taxol, my white count shot up to 30,000 (normal is 8-10,000) and I was put in the hospital for a week. I had a friend same as me --felt fine on AC but taxol was awful.  I hope they figure out something different in the near future -- and I hope you do well and you may do better if you do 12 low dose as opposed to fewer 'dose dense'. 

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited May 2012

    I'm at the point where all I can do is hope for the best. If I can't get back to work on Taxol my job, home, car, pets, and everything I have and know will be gone. I'm not looking forward to being hungry and homeless from cancer treatment so right now I am telling myself I will prevail on Taxol. It's all I have. Sigh.

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited May 2012

    like Shelly, Taxol was harder for me.  While on AC meds controlled and SE's without issue.  Taxol on the other hand caused bone/muscle pain in my legs that was awful.  No narcotic would even touch the pain.  Also, ended up with mild nueropathy.  

    I think its probably more likely that Taxol will be easier for you.  Good luck! 

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited May 2012

    We all react so differently...

    I had 4DD Taxol every 2 weeks.....It was a blessing comparing to A/C DD

    No neuropathy (sp)

    Sheila

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited May 2012

    At least if I know there is a decent likelihood I can get through Taxol and keep my job I can keep my hopes up somewhat. Thanks, Sheila

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited May 2012

    Dear Maria:  I think there is more than a decent likelihood that you can keep your job during Taxol, as well as avoid permanent side effects.  Bear in mind that the people more likely to post here are those going through major side effects and looking for help.  I did just fine during Taxol. 

  • 116
    116 Member Posts: 108
    edited December 2012

    I am one of those that had problems with taxol, I had two doses of it and each time I had such severe leg pains that it felt like someone was hitting me in the knees with a baseball bat. I would actually jump around the pain was so bad, and I have a really high pain tolerance. I also had really bad neuropathy in my legs and feet. After the second dose they switched me to taxotere. The taxotere was so much easier, and I believe I read that it is just as effective with a lot less neuropathy side effects. I still have neuropathy from the taxol almost 5 years later. I am not writing this to scare anyone, and as we all know everyone reacts differently to the different treatments, however I just want to say that taxotere is an option if the taxol is too much for you. I actually worked full time through all of my treatments, including the 4 dose dense A/C, but I ended up having to take a few days off from the leg pain that the taxol caused me, and it was the only time I had to take pain meds. I believe that it is important to let your doctor know if the neuropathy is getting bad, as it can be permanent for some of us. I still struggle with it, especially when the weather is cold.

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited May 2012

    Thanks for your honest response about the taxol. I'm glad the taxotere went better for you and it sucks you still have long-term side effects. Were you on weekly taxol? I will definitely let my doctor know right away. Thanks.

  • 116
    116 Member Posts: 108
    edited December 2012

    The taxol was every two weeks.When I switched to taxotere the dose was every three weeks. The switch did add sometime to my chemo end date, which was disapointing, but no big deal in the big picture. I hope everything goes smoothly for you since a lot of people seem to do really well on taxol compared to A/C.

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited May 2012

    I always have advice - HA HA!

    ICE YOUR HANDS AND FEET DURING TAXOL INFUSION.  It really does prevent Neuropathy and nail issues.   I have had absolutely no neuropathy or nail issues whatsoever.  Just finished #12 of 12 weekly Taxol this week.   Based on my experience, my Chemo Nurses and NP are telling other patients to do it.

    I bought two small dishpans for $1.00 each at the dollar store.  The nurse filled them with ice.  I kept on my socks and stuck feet in pan - in and out so I didn't get frostbite.   For my hands, I put a washcloth over ice and inserted fingers into ice - also in and out.     I did this from the minute Taxol infusion started until it was over.   Blood vessels constrict and keeps chemo from going to fingers and toes.

    Also, brush your teeth with Baking Soda.  I did this with A/C and Taxol - never had one mouth sore.

    I have alot of advice at my Blog about the whole BC experience if you need more!  LOL!

    http://denise4health.wordpress.com

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited May 2012

    Thanks so much, Denise. I'm going to ask my chemo team about icing! I have been doing the baking soda and salt mouth rise as during a/c and so far no mouth issues. Yay!! I will check out your blog, Thanks!!

  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited May 2012

    For me - A/C was not bad at all - Taxol was nasty. Did 4 DD A/C neoadjuvant then post mast. 12 weekly Taxol. Had I had a paid job (I'm a 'stay at home wife') - I could not have done it on Taxol - I existed those 12 weeks either on the couch or in bed - complete/utter EXHAUTION.



    It seems from the posts I've read that if you have a hard time with A/C - Taxol will be easier but if A/C wasn't bad Taxol will be.



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