Too early for April 2012 mastectomy?

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  • longislandmom
    longislandmom Member Posts: 248
    edited April 2012

    Vallerie0118...sorry your path report was not what you had hoped for. These decisions are all so personal that it's really hard to ever give advice. But on a personal note, it seems like your instinct to at least consider another mastectomy vs. a re-excision is worth exploring emotionally and medically. After wrestling with the decision for a bit, I do not have a single regret about choosing a very aggressive BMX approach to my DCIS/LCIS. I think the most important thing is that it is your decision and you go with your gut. Good luck and sorry that u will have to re-up for more surgery. But I guess all of us with TEs will be on that surgery board for the next year!!



    I am

    Poking forward to hearing how all the rest of you are doing! I am lying in bed uncomfortably right now...vicodan not putting me to sleep...just woozy.

  • ppeople
    ppeople Member Posts: 207
    edited April 2012

    ssorry for the complications Valerie.  None of my business, but I feel protective of my sisters, so tell me to but out...if you did mx on other side, could you skip rads? or did you mean cath for chemo?

  • ppeople
    ppeople Member Posts: 207
    edited April 2012

    hey longisland, I'm up too!

    Too much pain tonight, my PS is aggressive w fills, I already have 440 in.  I am here in NJ, close to city, I would love us local gals to plan a regional post op party, you game?

    Are you in hosp or hotel?

  • longislandmom
    longislandmom Member Posts: 248
    edited April 2012

    Hi, plymouth-- i moved from hospital to hotel yesterday afternoon. Sorry u r in pain!! My PS filled me quite a bit during mastectomy. I think I am probably a strong a cup now...don't know how many cc. I would love to plan a ny area reunion once everyone is up to it. I la couple of hours from NYC...but will be in city a lot for ps visits. Let's figure out who is up for it and then pick a date and place. Hope u can sleep. My butt is soo tired of my sitting on it. I sleep sitting up inbed!

  • ppeople
    ppeople Member Posts: 207
    edited April 2012

    Cant sleep, hope you are.  Just took another pain pill,  I am 30 min train ride to Penn.  Hotel sounds like great idea!

    Yes on the pain in the butt!  I am going for massage tomorrow and have my partner (who is a chiropractor) adjust me if he can without squishing my boobs.

    I think a reunion would be fun!  Too bad it cant be topless so we can compare.

  • aussie12
    aussie12 Member Posts: 462
    edited April 2012

    Hi all

    Went to the shops today, did some food shopping in the supermarket where I work. All the staff were very nice asking me how I was going etc. Felt funny going out with no bras on and felt self concious that I had only 1 boob. Nobody stared at me so I suppose no-one really noticed.

    I felt tired during and after shopping trip but it wasn't as bad as I thought.

    Best wishes to everyone

  • CityFi
    CityFi Member Posts: 95
    edited April 2012

    Writing this via my iPad from my hospital bed on the morning I go home.



    My mastectomy was Wednesday, and I'm happy to report that I'm sailing through it. I was supposed to be at the hospital at 9A and got here a half-hour early. After I registered, I was sent to nuclear medicine to have the lymphoscintography (or as my BC godmother calls it - get radioactive.) I was nervous about that more than anything since I've heard mixed things about it, but I actually didn't feel a thing. My technician was a little grumpy, but that's about it.



    I didn't go under until about 1:30PM and surgery (UMX with immediate reconstruction with TE) lasted about five hours. I remember seeing my family briefly in recovery. There they told me that the surgeons told them everything went well: clean margins, clear nodes - they only took three. Apparently, I was in recovery until a bit after 9 PM.



    Since my surgery started and went later than planned, my breast surgeon insisted I stay one more night than initially planned. I was a tad bit nauseous so it took a while get my appetite back, but I'm eating again, walking around and otherwise recovering nicely and quickly.



    Just wanted to check in, thank everyone for their loving words and thoughts, and wishing all my fellow warrioresses the positive experience I'm having.

  • vballmom
    vballmom Member Posts: 426
    edited April 2012

    I had m UMX w/o reconstruction on Wednesday, too.  My doctors wanted everything as simple as possible so I can heal and start chemo.  We will worry about cosmetics later.

     I am not as freaked out as much as expected. I really thought  I would have a melt down, but it didn't happen.

    Both of my daughters are out of town (they are 18 and 19) last night, so I was alone with my hubby - he is the best. We got some quiet time to just "be".  We all need that once in a while.

     I feel weird more than I do pain.  I'm starting to itch and I have tenderness when I touch the area (well duh, don't touch it).  Lots of pins and needle type sensations, and I do have some phantom pain.


    So...who here is heading to chemo with me in May?  

     Thank you for being here!  It is so nice to not be alone.  I wish you all peace and comfort as well travel together through this incredible journey.

  • longislandmom
    longislandmom Member Posts: 248
    edited April 2012

    vball mom and citifi-- good to hear from you! glad you are doing well. day 4 post-op for me and feeling very sore but ok. took my first semi-poop this morning (feels like a milestone -- literally and figurately). appeite is also returning, finally, which means i better get up and around more today so that the food doesn't just sit in my stomach. i'm trying hard to walk around...but am just so tired. just curious how long it took all of you post-op ladies to start your walking Ii.e. more than up and down the hallway and around the house) and how long you walk for? would love a stretch of more than 2 hours! thinking about al of you.

  • lisamarie68
    lisamarie68 Member Posts: 1,235
    edited April 2012

    just got home last night from hospital. surgery was over 8 hours .  i had a morphine pump and did not do well they had to take it off . gave me toradol and then diludid pump.couldnt pee had to have catheter .. I have 2 drains. home on keflex, percocet, and zofran. cant sleep in recliner , had to prop a million pillows on bed sleep sitting up.cant have showre till drains come out. pain sucks the drain site burns and hurts. feel like someone beat me with a steel beam . chest is tight and hurts. did nit get any fluid in te's so im flat as a pancake. BS says nodes clear , so faar no chemo. PS says drains can some out when they are under 25cc for 24 hours at a time.itch really bad .cant post much more i am hurting and falling asleep. i hope everyone is okay xoxoxoxox

  • valerie0118
    valerie0118 Member Posts: 126
    edited April 2012

    Plymouth-The catheter is for rads.....they do a 5 day procedure instead of the 10 week procedure...I think it is called mammopath.  I too am a bit protective about my remaining girl.  After sleeping all night and thinking about the path report, I'm leaning more to trusting what my surgeon discussed with me yesterday and being diligent with follow-ups and treating with tamoxifen.  The path report shows that cancer detected was all in situ and no invasion was evident.  I did a lot of reading last night and deep thinking and will go ahead with their plans.

    lisamarie-glad your home and praying for a speedy recovery.  I too had some intense itching and redness around the drain site too.  They removed the tape because I was sensitive to it and suggested taking an antihistimine.  Maybe call the plastic surgeon and tell them about the itching.   After they removed the tape, the itching eased and I take an antihistimine every day for allergies so that might have already been helping.  

    CitiFi-glad your surgery went well and praying for a speedy recovery for you too!   

  • valerie0118
    valerie0118 Member Posts: 126
    edited April 2012

    longislandmom, thanks for your input.....It is very hard to know what to do.  If I let them re-excise and they detect something in the future, I will definately get that girl off.  Right now I think I'm going to trust the team and keep working hard to prevent further DCIS through diet and exercise.....and tamoxifen.  I did a lot of reading and deep thinking last night.  These are hard hard decisions we are being asked to make.....it is so hard to know what to do.

  • Zarasbaba
    Zarasbaba Member Posts: 103
    edited April 2012

    Lisamarie......welcome to the other side !!

    I know what yout going though with the pain!!

    I know that steel bean feeling!!!!



    It will get better!!, and warm showers helps out a lot , if your allowed them.



    Tender warm HUGSS!!

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited April 2012

    I am happy to see so many posting who are now on the other side. I am now 16 days post-op and feel great. The pain really does get better each day and even more so once the nasty drain tubes come out.

    I met with the bs today for a check up and she said she couldn't believe how great I was healing and it was not what she expected at all so quick. She was not quite acting like herself though. She had my Oncotype test results in her hand. I asked her if it was just as ugly as all of my path reports and she looked at me and said NO. My score was a 6 even with positive nodes. Chemo won't do crap for me. I am so glad I insisted on the test before I would do chemo. The scores were the same with or without positive nodes. The recurrance score was an 8. Now the problem is what esle can they do for me. I had a bmx, I am having the ovaries out, will be on some kind of hormonal drug, doing radiation, and will take Metformin as well. She said that my lobular cancer has been there for many years and thank God it just wasn't really aggressive. They just couldn't detect it. She thinks it was probably there 7 and a half yrs ago when I had the lumpectomy on the other side.

    I hope everyone feels better soon and good luck and prayers to Columbiana next week.

  • ppeople
    ppeople Member Posts: 207
    edited April 2012

    Oh, Dianarose, I am really glad about your onco score.  I have read that lobular is often less aggressive than ductal  Happy for no chemo,,I guess hormones and rads are what will knock it out of you.

    Lisamarie!!!! Welcome back!!! Happy to hear from you, I promise, each day from now on is better than the one before!

    Valerie, it is good you feel comfortable with your decision, usually that is all we have since this thing can be treated in so many different, valid ways.  Someone just said to me: "Dont you think you are being a little overly aggressive?" when hearing about my decision to do bmw with a stage 0.  Um, who the fuck are you?, thought I.

    Vball and Cityfi, welcome to the other side!  You will be surprised at how much better the after is than the waiting was.  Congratulations!

    Aussie, no one does notice.  I have big belly, no boobs, look rather like a truck driver; but, hey, with some lipstick, earings and a scarf, I am good to go!

    Hanging in Longisland?

    Where is rtnyc?

    Resting comfortably Karina?

    P.S., seems to take me 2 days after a fill to be comfy again, last night was bad.  But, he put in 250cc in one shot.  Like to shoot that into his balls and see if he think his aggressive fill schedule is still such a good idea.

  • VeganGal
    VeganGal Member Posts: 154
    edited April 2012

    Hello Ladies!

    I am now home . . . so glad to be home . . . so glad to be on the other side.

    Has been quite the ride. . . surgery was at 8:00am, and was up until 2am vomitting. Serious bad reaction to the anesthetic. And some kind of crazy pain . . . I was told that the pain is from the TE's since they "cut" the cheast muscle. But, I am just so glad it is done. Drains not quite as bad I thought. DH is milking them. I did buy one of the drain cami's . . . nice not to have to futz about with pins. I had friends bring so much food that my fridge and freezer are literally bursting! So very lovely. Now I guess we just rest, heal, and wait the 2 weeks for the pathology!

    Looks like I've got some reading to catch up on . . . I've missed several pages of posts!

    I hope everyone is doing well.

    Hugs.

  • ppeople
    ppeople Member Posts: 207
    edited April 2012

    Welcome home Vegan, now rest, eat and take pain pills!  Lovely!

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited April 2012

    Plymouthpeople- I was once stage 0 going on 8 yrs ago and look at the mess I am in now. It took courage to do what you did and those who have rude comments don't know what the Hell they are talking about. The best thing about a mastectomy is that boobs don't grow back and we only have to do it once.

    Vegan Girl- glad your home. Sorrry you had such a tough time though. My doc had to give me Valium to take at night for that muscle problem. Because the TE's are now behind the muscle you will get spasm's. I don't get them in the day when I am up, just when I try to sleep.

  • longislandmom
    longislandmom Member Posts: 248
    edited April 2012

    Vegan, lisamarie...welcome back!!! Yea!! We have all almost come over to the other side! i am so happy for everyone! i texted with RTNYC tonight. she got out of ICU last night (BMX/DIEP) and sounds like she is doing OK . she thinks she will come home on Sunday. She just has blackberry with her and can't post-- but will when she is able.

    Plymouth -- re: the Stage 0 comment-- WTF! the one thing i have learned through this experience is that there is not a RIGHT answer-- there is just YOUR answer. And that is different for everyone. As a fellow Stage 0 gal-- i know the BMX was the right decision for me-- even in the middle of what is probaby the worst of it now. no regrets. I just cam"t get my mind of pathology. wish i had quicker results. btw...i am still draining like a banchi. at least 60 cc yesterday. am guessing i am going to top that today or come close. how about all of you? i'm guessing i'm draining for at least 10 days. xxo to all.

  • ppeople
    ppeople Member Posts: 207
    edited April 2012

    Longisland,

    I went from over 100cc to less than 20 in 3 days.  There is hope!

  • longislandmom
    longislandmom Member Posts: 248
    edited April 2012

    Good morning!!! Can u say VALIUM! YEA!!!! Took just 2.5 mg ( half tablet) before bed and had my first night of sleep in a week!!! Still woke up a few times, but feel like I had a night sleep vs. a catnap! Hope you all wake up feeling good!!! Xxooo cheers to a good day for everyone!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012
    April Ladies-- This coming week is the last push for your thread's surgeries and I'm wishing each of you speedy recoveries.  Each of you have come a very long way since you started on your journeys and I know it has not been easy for anyone.  There will be a time that you will look back and say "Wow.... look how far I've come and I'm stronger than I thought I was!!!!"..... that will be your aha moment.  I am now down the road not to far from you in chemoland.  So please, if you are joining me and others there, we welcome you and your comaraderie.  Look for us in the April May 2012 chemo hangout.  Sending lots of gentle warm  (((HUGS))), positive calming and healing prayers, thoughts and energy.
  • Zarasbaba
    Zarasbaba Member Posts: 103
    edited April 2012

    Hey Melrose !!

    I'll be on the train with you and Indigo!!! Save me a seat next to you please!!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012

    gabsbaba-  You betcha girlfriend--- The comfy seat next to mine has your name on it!!!!

  • mamabee
    mamabee Member Posts: 546
    edited April 2012

    Good morning all! My post-op fever broke on Thursday - thank goodness it wasn't an infection - but, boy was I tired yesterday. I napped much of the day. I have so much respect for the BMX sisters - having only one side of pain & stiffness is enough for me. I'm trying to stay off the oxycontin during the day & just use the tylenol but I'm still taking an oxy first thing in the morning when I wake up so stiff and at night before bed. I am pretty much sleeping through the night but having to stay in one position on my back is doing me no favors and I wake up very stiff. I made the mistake of stretching my arms while I was half-awake yesterday morning, forgetting I wasn't supposed to raise my left arm too high - YOWZAH, that woke me up fast. The worst pain I have now, though, comes after my drains are emptied and the suction kicks in - anyone else have that stinging pain?

    See my surgeons on Monday and I guess I'll get my pathology then. I already did my chemo to shrink my tumor and hopefully get better margins - hope it worked.

    longislandmom - I walked 20 minutes around the neighborhood yesterday and just about died. I thought I'd been doing a good job moving around the house, but I need to step it up (the week before surgery I was walking 3-5 miles/day). I'm going to try for 2 20-minute walks today.

    aussie - I might try to shop this weekend - good to know no one notices the lopsidedness. Maybe I can secure my drain bulbs up on my chest & solve 2 problems at once. Smile

    vegangirl & lisamarie - the pain does get less day by day as the muscle gets used to its new position. make sure to stay ahead of the pain with your medication, it does make a difference. hope you're both feeling better.

    plymouth - good to hear about the drains. I'm pretty sure I have one taken out on Monday but the other is stubbornly still putting out >40 a day. 

    vballmom - i have those phantom pains too - I get these itches like I still have a breast there. I thought I'd freak out the first time I saw my new body but I was just so happy to have the cancer gone it didn't bother me at all.

    Healing hugs to all! 

  • VeganGal
    VeganGal Member Posts: 154
    edited April 2012

    Thanks for all the good wishes! The pain is still pretty crazy . . . I am doing the T-3 thing . . . and they also give me another pain med called gavapentin (sp?) that is suppose to be for nerve pain related to the chest muscle . . . I am moving around the house . . . and did tell DH that I would really like to go outside for a short walk. I won't overdo it . . . but I want some fresh air already!!!!!!

    I'm so proud of all of us . . .

    But . . . for sure . . . waiting the 2 weeks for the path report is not going to be easy . . . I keep telling myself one day at a time . . .

    The other thing I started to do today is put together a gratitude book. I've putting in little notes of things that people have done for me these past week . . . I've glued in greeting cards . . . I've printed emails and taped them in . . . I am really focused on all the good that has come from this . . . all the friends that been so wonderful . . . all the people who have rallied around . . . and I kinda feel like a little kid again with coloured pencils, stickers etc . . . it's fun:-) (and maybe even good for my arms!!)

    Hugs Ladies.

  • vballmom
    vballmom Member Posts: 426
    edited April 2012

    Mamabee, I also tried to stretch this morning but caught myself just in time. I felt good this morning so decided on Tylenol instead of the oxycodone.  Bad choice.  In another hour I will switch back.  I am fine as long as I do nothing. Not sure if that is smart or really dumb. I am alone today, so I am going to lay low.

    I will be starting chemo as soon as I am healed.  The plan is AC/TH.

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited April 2012

    vballmom - your avatar is making me hungry!

  • Karina51
    Karina51 Member Posts: 37
    edited April 2012

    Hi all, I came home yesterday, although my surgeon offered me an extra night at the hospital. Seems my blood pressure is quite low, and I look like the Pillsbury doughboy,due to the severe edema in my legs and one arm...so strange. Due to the swelling, I have a difficult time getting leverage to stand up without my arms..yikes! I never realized how low our toilet is. Sheesh. I am outfitted with TWO On-Q pain bulbs, and 3 drains. My husband is a gem. When I get sick, or need special care, he opens up "Jon's Hospital for Pretty Sick Girls". I,too, have these sharp dagger-like pains under my arm..only hurt when I move my arms, though. I am so impressed with those of you who are taking walks and doing some normal activities! Time for an antibiotic and oxy....followed by a nap.



    Be well,

    Karina

  • VeganGal
    VeganGal Member Posts: 154
    edited April 2012

    Seems I overdid it a bit this morning . . . caught up to me early afternoon . . . when the home care nurse came in she reminded to take it easy . . . I realized that I really need to think about it differently . . . I need to chill out . . . at least I learned that lesson on my first full day home . . .

    As such I didn't get outside . . . but I know I will soon enough . . .

    Just remember all the April ladies to not go overboard . . . even if you're feeling well . . .

    Hugs:-)

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