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  • KariLynn
    KariLynn Member Posts: 1,079
    edited April 2006
    Right now it's in the oven so the kids wouldn't get at it - they can have it after school. I can avoid cake - that's not my thing. The leftover Pepsi, on the other hand, will be shown the drain!

    Chances are (if history repeats...) that I will preheat the oven and burn the rest of the cake as I will forget it's there!
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited April 2006
    We all have different issues.

    Pepsi could mold in the bottle for me, but the cake (mostly the icing) wouldn't last a minute.

    I think pouring it down the drain is the best idea. You'd regret drinking it longer than it would take to drink it.

    When you start smelling smoke you'll remember about the cake.
  • KariLynn
    KariLynn Member Posts: 1,079
    edited April 2006

    Yeah, thet's when I usually remember....

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited April 2006

    I like those 40 calorie frozen fudgecicles.

  • SpanArtist
    SpanArtist Member Posts: 75
    edited April 2006
    Hi Rose,

    You've got it figured out perfectly! It's almost hard to get it to 44 grams! By the way, we're virtually the same height and weight (I'm 5'5 1/2" and 137 lbs.)! But I think you're younger than I am...I'll be 55 in May.

    Hugs, Liza
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited April 2006
    If I weigh 137 (and am still 5'5") when I'm 55 I'm going to do the happy dance!

    The diet book I've been reading really pushes going meatless to hit the low fat mark.
  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited April 2006
    Hi guys!
    I am not pooped before I got to this thread tonight, I did a quick glance and here I am.

    DH is still in a lot of pain but I know it will get better.

    Hospital food is soo boring! Even the lowfat is tasteless!

    Okay good to see yall
  • SpanArtist
    SpanArtist Member Posts: 75
    edited April 2006
    Thanks for the compliment, Rose!

    I like Diana Dyer's nutrition book for BC survivors. She also believes in a heavily vegetarian diet (but not meatless...she eats fowl and fish). She was a Registered Dietician for years before her 2 bouts of BC, and after the 2nd bout, she did a lot of diet research in connection w/ cancer and wrote her book. All proceeds go to the American Institute of Cancer Research (AICR) and it's inexpensive...around $15.00. I think it's a wonderful book! The first link below is to Ms. Dyer's web site, and the 2nd link is to AICR's web site:
    http://www.cancerrd.com/

    http://www.aicr.org/site/PageServer?pagename=homepage

    Check them out!

    Hugs, Liza
  • rosieS
    rosieS Member Posts: 83
    edited April 2006
    Hi Liza, I have the Diana Dyer "A Dietitian's Cancer Story" book too. I am also a registered dietitian who has had breast cancer, so I knew her approach would be sensible. I do not follow everything she advocates. She advocates daily soy and since it is so controversial with er/pr+ bc, I try to avoid it.

    Basically she says she always ate right, but now she makes a conscious effort to up her intake of veggies and fiber, while exercising, meditating and taking supplements and being an advocate and participant in support groups. I cannot incorporate everything she does into my life, but I do understand her philosophy.

    By the way, she states that she donates a significant percentage of the proceeds from the sale of her book to non-profit organizations, incluting AICR, not all of her proceeds.
  • ginger2345
    ginger2345 Member Posts: 517
    edited April 2006
    Tina,

    I hope the night splint helps. It's a bit bulky to wear, but my foot feels some better and I hope for continued improvement. (I've actually taken the splint with me on 2 trips I've taken in Feb and March!! And my husband insists on traveling light!)
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited April 2006
    We're all on the right track way ahead of the news:

    "In a study of 524 healthy adults, investigators found that those with the highest fiber intake had lower blood levels of C-reactive protein (CRP) than those who ate the least fiber. CRP is a marker of ongoing inflammation in the body, and consistently high levels of this protein have been identified in previous studies as a risk factor for future heart disease.

    The new findings support the general recommendation that adults get 20 to 35 grams of fiber per day, in the form of fruits, vegetables, beans and whole grains...

    http://heart.healthcentersonline.com/new...eneral=NL_HEART
  • SpanArtist
    SpanArtist Member Posts: 75
    edited April 2006
    Hi Rosie,

    I also don't eat heavy soy products because I'm ER+, and thanks for clarification that Ms. Dyer donates PART of the proceeds to AICR.

    What do you eat in a typical day and what supplements do you take? My typical day would be:

    (Breakfast) Kashi Good Friends cereal w/ 2 TBSP ea of wheat germ and wheat bran and a TBSP of ground flax seed, a sliced banana, 1/4 cup of raisins and a cup of 1% organic milk, a cup of OJ and 1/2 cup of fresh fruit (preferably berries). Supplements would be a multi-vitamin, fish oil pill (EPA 180 mg, DHA 120 mg, and GLA 23 mg), Calcium 500 mg w/ D 200 IU and a vitamin D pill 400 IU, and three 8 oz glasses of water (I drink the water over the morning).

    (Lunch) One cup organic 1% or fat-free yogurt w/ 1/2 cup fresh fruit and 1/8 cup walnuts and 6 low-fat Triscuits, and a cup of iced green tea and a cup of water.

    (Dinner) Bulghur w/ mixed vegetables and either beans or fish and ALWAYS a salad w/ dark green lettuce, tomato, carrots, broccoli slaw and rice vinegar, a cup of organic 1% milk and a cup of water, and a Dole all-fruit popsicle (30 calories) and a fat-free fudgsicle (70 calories).

    I don't mean to impose on your expertise as a dietician but am approaching you as a knowledgeable "sister"...I've read a lot about the subject, find it very interesting and consider myself a somewhat knowledgeable layperson (obviously, you're much more knowledgeable than I am), so I'm curious about others who find the topic interesting as well. In fact, I pose the same question to all of us who follow this thread...what is your typical diet for a day and what supplements do you take, if any?

    Hugs,
    Liza
  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited April 2006

    I take a multi, calicum, chondrontin gluscomine, Omega 3 and ibuprofen for my pain.

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited April 2006
    OK - I'll confess, I had a Key Lime Pie dipped in choclate on a stick.

    My oldest was 21 this week and is coming home for Easter dinner. In the Key Lime theme I'm working on a lime sherbert/coconut ice cream pie, a bit of choclate dribbled over top with toasted coconut.
  • SpanArtist
    SpanArtist Member Posts: 75
    edited April 2006
    Hi everybody,

    I read this article and thought you all might find it interesting...it says eating lots of fruits and veggies may help prevent recurrence:

    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12302075/

    Hugs,
    Liza
  • rosieS
    rosieS Member Posts: 83
    edited April 2006
    Hi Liza. I don't know if I have a typical day, but I'll try to represent my eating pattern. For breakfast, I will have either Cheerios with organic 1% milk and sometimes a banana or if I have to go to work (3x/wk) I will quickly toast a whole wheat english muffin and put a piece of organic low fat cheddar or monteray jack cheese on it and take it to go. I usually have coffee in the morning with some organic milk. I eat dried plums (aka prunes) for snack.



    For lunch, I have a variety of choices. It depends on whether I am in work or not. If I am home, I usually eat leftovers from previous dinners. It could be fish or chicken or bean soup, like lentils. I also love eggplant.



    I drink green and black tea a few time a day, black without sugar or milk.



    Sometimes I just have organic plain yogurt with some fresh fruit in it for snack or lunch.



    I also eat some type of fruit for snack a couple of times per day, like an organic apple or pineapple or whatever looks good.



    If I am in work, then I might have a turkey burger or some pasta with veggies, a salad, and some fruit.



    For dinner, I usually cook chicken or pasta or fish. I vary the veggies--anything from zucchini to asparagus to arugula to spinach. I also like all kinds of mushrooms--portabello, shitake, and plain button. We try to eat whole grain bread, but sometimes have regular Italian bread, always with olive oil.



    I do not eat cookies or cake, except for special occasions. I usually have green tea (decaf) before I go to bed.



    I take calcium supplements because I really do not consume enough calcium. Other supplements include a multi vitamin, vitamin C, vitamin E, Coenzyme Q10, tumeric, a baby aspirin (also controversial), and selenium.



    I drink red wine on the weekends, usually 2 glasses with my evening meal. I know alcohol is controversial, but I think red wine has some benefits and I really enjoy it.



    So, basically, I try to include lots of fiber in my meal planning,but I also think low fat protein is important. I do not eat red meat any more, but I eat all other animal protein in moderation.



    I always ate healthy and I still got bc, so who knows. It really was an unbelievable shock that "it happened to me", but I still believe in the power of good nutrition--it's part of my way of living.



    Now that I have been put into menopause, it is so hard to maintain my weight, but I am trying--portion control and exercise is the answer.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2006
    Rose -
    How decadent and mouth watering...

    On another note, love your new avatar...LOVE IT!

    My son had eighteenth last week, how wonderfully momentous. Enjoy the precious moments.

    JUST a big salad of spinach and every color vegetable for me tonight.

    NO easter candy for me.

    Laura
    loving the key lime theme
  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited April 2006
    OMG Rose I love key lime pie! I ate at DQ last night, and was drooling over their key lime pie blizzard. I just love DQ's grilled chicken sandwich!

    Rose you look so thin! Yippeee for you!

    I was doing so well, then I had a day where my belly was a bottomless pit. My brain has taken my mouth back over, taxes are done! So I can quit stressing so much!

    Happy Easter, luckily I have three kids that make sure I get no candy!
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited April 2006
    On a lower fat note, I had some lime salsa that was really good. I looked for a jar to take home but didn't see any. That can be my new quest.

    I've never seen that kind of blizzard. I'll have to make a stop at the mall.
  • KariLynn
    KariLynn Member Posts: 1,079
    edited April 2006

    Rose - your picture looks GREAT!

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited April 2006
    I'm usually neurotic about the bike helmet but this time I hopped right on with no concern for it at all. There wasn't much traffic, around here a person would be crazy to bike without a helmet. Some Yuppie in their BMW would run you down in their hurry to get to Starbucks.

    I got the dietitians cancer book from amazon. She's got yet another opinion about flax and soy and breast cancer. It's enough to drive a person nuts.
  • SpanArtist
    SpanArtist Member Posts: 75
    edited April 2006
    Hi Rose,

    I'm also a bike enthusiast! I'm trying to build up my stamina after tx. I have a road bike and a hybrid (I like to switch them out for the variation in rides). Before tx, I was riding 60-90 mins., 15-20 miles about 4-5 times/wk. Now I ride about 30 mins. and go slow, and I probably won't go more than 2 x/wk, because I'm trying to incorporate weight-bearing exercise too, now that I'm on Arimidex. I'm struggling to get back to my exercising, which I did for nearly 20 yrs before getting BC. During tx, I hardly ever did it...just was too fatigued!! I know I'll get back to it regularly, it's been a part of my life for so long...but it's still a struggle at this point.

    Is it hilly in Md? That would make for a different ride (it's FLAT where I am in Florida).

    Happy Easter to everyone!
    Hugs, Liza
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited April 2006
    Anybody tried this?

    Take brownie mix. Put a can of black beans in the blender and liquify them. Use the black beans instead of oil/eggs.

    The calories are about the same but they're low-fat and higher-fiber.

    Think I should sacrifice a box of brownie mix to see how it comes out?
  • KariLynn
    KariLynn Member Posts: 1,079
    edited April 2006
  • ginger2345
    ginger2345 Member Posts: 517
    edited April 2006

    Yes, Rose, go ahead and be the guinea pig on this and let us know how it turns out. I know if it works well and I would do it, I couldn't tell my family what was in it. I'd be interesting to see if they'd notice the difference!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2006
    Thanks Rose for taking one for the group!

    If it is good that would be marvelous.

    I personally have sworn off as much sugar as possible, lord knows i eat enuff starch that turns to sugar...

    My blood sugar is running up to 115... don't know where it came from, was at 90 two months ago?

    I am adding pre-diabetes to my diet...

    laura
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited April 2006
    Always ready for a challenge.

    I'll go for the store brand mix and make them on the day my son takes cookies to his youth group. I can try one, and they'll eat anything!
  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited April 2006

    Rose that is crazy enough that just might work! Please post how it turns out!

  • DragonladyTina
    DragonladyTina Member Posts: 371
    edited April 2006
    I have another recipe involving low fat brownie mix too.

    Mix 3 cups of All Bran cereal with 2 cups of water, let it soak a few minutes.
    Add... 1/2 cup cocoa powder, 1/2 tsp baking powder, and the contents of the low fat brownie package, Mix, do not over mix. Spoon into muffin tins, makes about 48 medium muffins.
    350 for 15 min.
    I add nuts or sultanas, chocolate chips, or chopped pitted prunes, you can really add anything you want, dried cranberries are good too.

    This is actually a WW recipe and 3 brownies are 5 points. As long as you get at least 24 brownies out of one mix, I get usually 36 -48 so you can have more than 3 for 5 points

    I love them,

    Tina
  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited April 2006
    I did the bean/brownie mix. They're very moist,dense, almost fudgy, but the beany taste is still there. IF I do them again (and I may not) I might put cinamon in to hide the beany flavor.

    I might try Tinas' brownie mix. Is there a special low-fat brownie mix you use? Since I was experiementing I just used what was on sale this week.

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