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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited April 2012

    Good Luck Heidi!  I wish you great successes!  I will be praying for your surgery and that you have a swift recovery.  Another great feature of Protocel is that it takes care of all anaerobic cells...cells that aren't necessarily cancer.  Since any infection or disease is comprised of these, the Protocel can work with your body to protect you during your healing and inflammation process too :)

    Today is my weekly measurement day documenting 4 weeks on Protocel 23:

    Left Mid Back node: 1cm x 0.75cm
    Crude measurement of R medial reconstructed breast: (very difficult to get to this one) 0.6x 0.6cm round.
    Palpated measurement of R upper buttock Node: This one is showing amazing response.  Small and hard.  Bigger than a bee-bee but smaller than a marble.

    Despite positive measurements, I've been having sensations of heaviness and stretching in a large area encompassing my left/side/back chest wall.  I wish this wasn't giving me an uneasy feeling.  I have to catch myself from doubting and put my faith in God that this is going to work...then I reach back,feel the nodule on my right buttock and breathe a sigh of relief.   It's an ongoing emotional roller coaster...Yikes! - YaY! - Yikes! - YaY!

    Every Sunday is a gift and I approach the coming week with a new set of resolutions and actions that I want to take going forward.  I need to increase my exercise but this patch of bad weather we've had makes it hard to power walk through the winds... It shouldn't affect my trampoline cardio though so I'm forcing myself to do more of that daily and get the lymph moving. 

    I eat Bran flakes every morning to promote daily bowel movements and that is working.  I'm also
    noticing a little mucus every day on my stools, so that's a good thing.  The book talk's about copious amounts of the white stuff, but in my case, that is not the case.   Eyes crusted every morning and extreme fatigue top my lysing list this week.  I should also mention that I am flashing on and off like crazy, but I did just get my ovaries removed so of course it's probably a menopausal side effect...however, the opening and closing of the sweat glands are still a gateway for lysed material.

    I guess I could compare the speed of lysing to that of active yeast cultures poured down your clogged drain vs. a cup of Draino.  What's going to get through that gunk quicker?  Well of course the Draino; but not without pipe corrosion.  If you're patient, the digestive enzymes will metabolize the gunk.   Maybe I need more digestive enzymes (so to speak)?  I think I'll increase my dosage to 1/3 -1/2  tsp this week and see what happens. 

    Patience Kat...Patience...

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited April 2012

    I just opened a brand new bottle of Protocel last night.  That makes it lasting exactly a month, even with the short stint of power dosing.

    Remember last week, I had thought I would attempt to power dose a bit and see what happened. I increased my dose to between 1/3 and 1/2 tsp. around the clock. I started this on the 15th but had to decrease my dose back to the ¼ tsp by the 17th.  I think I was lysing too fast because I developed a swollen painful node under my left arm. I immediately switched out to non-restrictive clothing (no bra) no shaving, no deodorant/antiperspirant and increased my jumping on the trampoline.  I also took long hot showers and applying heat and gentle massage to the area.  This was all successful and the swollen node resolved within 24 hours. 

    I believe that the increased speed of collecting the lysed material got my lymph track backed up like a bottle necked traffic jam.  I couldn't get it to drain quickly enough.  Increasing my activity and water intake (tap, bottle and distilled) seems to be moving things along.  I can actually feel my chest wall draining!

    So, I had an argument with myself.  What truly is the difference between tolerating a painful/uncomfortable side effect of Protocel as compared to the many women who endure horrible SE's from their treatments on a daily basis?  Surely I can handle a little more discomfort with mine if it is in fact speeding me to a cure?    

    The literature based on the results of Protocel promotes this treatment as a safe and methodical way of killing cancer.  It's not a cytotoxic fast acting dangerous poison.  If my cancer is lysing too fast and restricting an exit to leave my body, then I could actually be doing more damage to an otherwise healthy system. This is exactly what chemo does and what I'm trying to avoid!  So, I will continue the recommended daily dosage of ¼ tsp every 5 hours and respect the process. 

    Some positive changes in my overall health and well being is that my (growing hair) and skin look really great and my gums have never been in better shape!  Seriously...my gums (of all things!:)  Wild.  My energy level is medium to high.  I find I have to take a nap most every day.  Sometimes I'm just hit with fatigue that is so intense it simply zaps everything out of me and I must lay down right then and there!  But after I recharge, I'm good again.  I have amazing will power when it comes to no desserts, candy or baked goods but I'm no angel...Last night for example, I had a few too many ‘water beers' (what we call Miller 64) so I guess cheating on sugar intake in this way is the same as any other.    

    I should also mention (again this week) that the end of the 1st bottle made for some very messy dispensing.  This stains your counters and your clothes, so you have to be careful.  A little drop can do a lot.  When I take a dose of Protocel, I'll refill the glass with water and sip on that for a while and it always turns the water a tea color.  Like one little drop of pre-mixed protocel combined with even more water continues to do its thing.  I feel like this is a good way to keep steady therapeutic levels without power dosing.

    Here are my measurements for this week:

    Left Mid back node:  1.0cm x 0.75cm (unchanged)

    Palpated measurement of R medial reconstructed breast: I had to change this from crude measurement to palpation because we just can't get to it with the protractor without some severe manipulation and it's too close to an implant to do that.  It feels unchanged.

    Palpated measurement of R upper buttock Node: This not only feels smaller but it's also closer to the surface and not so deep! 

    Next week I start yoga classes right across the street at the community center and I'm also going to introduce a sauna in to the the mix.  (can't hurt!)

    Slow and steady wins the race!  Smile
    Kat

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    Hi Kat, here you are little sister !!

    Really glad your thread was moved so that we can now keep in touch with you Smile

    I am so so impressed by your taking charge of your health this way, managing the 'issue' with your onco (no small feat !) and taking the time to share with us.  Thank you for being such an inspiration, you are an amazing lady !!

    I'm off to look into Protocel Wink

    Hugs and positive energy, keep up the good work ! 

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited April 2012

    Thanks for stopping by to say Hello Maud!   And thanks for the kind words...they are VERY much appreciated! Smile

    If anyone has any questions at all, I don't promise to have all the answers, but I do have the book right here in front of me and will gladly share what I have learned! 

    xoxo
    Kat

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  • VeronicaX
    VeronicaX Member Posts: 35
    edited April 2012

    Hi Kat,

    I am very greatful that you are posting your experince and progress here. I am always looking and reading about alternative treatments. In fact I plan on seeing Dr. Gonzales in NY when I am done with my treatment.

    Regarding some of the negative comments on alternative treatments in general, I say that people who belive something does not work, should not stop people who make it work.

    Please keep us posted

    V

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    Kat- just read your entire thread.  I know Protocel works.  My integrative medical doctor wanted me to start this when I found him.  He was very thrilled with all the powerful results across the world.  I have it in my back pocket, as of now, I have a solid protocol and since Protocel contraindicates with just about everything I did not wantt to change my protocol so soon.  I really felt it was working.  Still do, though there have been some challenges and the learning curve.

    Those pins and needles, I get those all the time now, I used to get very painful lightening shocks beffore the surgery too, but they were different.  I prefer the pins and needles.  The lysing, I get at the incision, under breasts and across stomach, like salt, with mucous in stool and urine at times.  I am using fucoidan capsules and Paw Paw and Protandim, along with Chinese herbs that cause the phlegm of body to release and to liquify to pass.  The biggest change in my masses in breast were after adding the Chinesse herbs.

    You are brave, but you have to be.  You are encouraging and inspirational, articulate, strong, hopeful, deserving and more.  Whatever anyone says to you, just remember that there are so many here that need to know your entire story, good, bad, indifferent, challenges and all, tthe truth as it comes.  I am doing the same on a spiritual thread, this has been the challenge of my life.  

    Will be back to read more.  

    This said, there are so many alternative treatments that are effective when matched with the individual.  

    To all readers, the hope we have in our alternative choices is what keeps us going, keeps us strong and feeling powerful.  Do not allow anyone to take that away with believing any negative comments.  Keep your eyes wide open, one foot in front of the other, no heads in the sand allowed.  We have to tell one another the truth of our journeys, that is how we get out of this alive.

    Thanks Kat for sharing!

    Diane

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited April 2012

    Veronica, I read about Dr. Gonzales in Suzanne Sommers book!  He's the one that said that the percentage of beating cancer is 100% nutritional, 100% physical and 100% spiritual. So True!
    I have many more passages highlighted from his interview with her...I was very impressed and I wish you 100% success with him! 

    Thank you Diane for your very kind words...I understand how Protocel can be contradictory to other therapies.  My husband was very doubtful when I told him I would have to give up my Vit C, my berries and broccoli sprouts (60% more Vit C in sprouts than regular broccoli) to begin this regimen and truthfully, I was too.  But you have to have faith in whatever modality you choose...that's the key.  I've been reading more about Paw Paw and am interested in perhaps introducing it.  I will definitely be visiting the spiritual thread to read your words. 

    Thanks Ladies! Smile

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited April 2012

    6 weeks into Protocel and I thought I would talk about mechanics today:

    The Mechanics of Protocel administration
    The Mechanics of a well phrased elevator speech
    Body Mechanics

    The Mechanics of Protocel administration:  Taking my Protocel in 5 hour increments around the clock is turning into second nature.  I set my phone to alarm at 6a-10a-3p-8p-1a which ensures me I never miss a dose.  However, I'm usually conscious of the time about ½ hour prior to the dose.  It's has been a very rare occasion that I realized with a panic that it was 10 minutes past 5 hours....Hence the phone alarm system.  It's been very helpful and I'm able to relax a bit.  Since I initiated Protocel I have never gone past 5.5 hours

    Last week, I started mixing all my doses with Distilled Water and not just my travel doses.  I feel better about this concentration because distilled water has no energy to interfere with the Protocel.  It seems to be more constipating though so I am usually drinking regular spring or fresh water during the day.  After you shake it vigorously, I then put the opened end to my ear for a gentle listen.  Sccchhhhhhhh   (it bubbles ferociously!)   I measure out my ¼ dose in the distilled water.  I usually start a new bottle with the dropper and have to start pouring to measure when the dropper doesn't make it past ½ the bottle.   I've said it before and I'll probably say it every time...it's a damn messy proposition. 

    My travel doses are pre-mixed that morning in a mini 8oz plastic bottle that once had diet 7-up in it. It fits neatly in the pocket of my purse and I just whip it out, shake it up and take it at the scheduled time. 

    My night time dose is probably the most amusing.  I mix it in a Tupperware sippy cup!  When my alarm goes off at 1am, I half rise, put my finger over the spout and shake, shake, shake the sippy cup and drink it down.  My head is back on the pillow just as the light from the phone goes back to dim. I usually have to wake up a few hours later to pee anyway, so getting a full night's sleep doesn't happen.

    The Mechanics of a well phrased elevator speech

    So here's the thing... My hair is a cute pixie shape and I sit out in natural sun light for a few minutes most every day so I've got good color.  People who see me out and about think I'm done with treatment because "I'm all better now."  When I tell them I'm not on chemo anymore they assume that the pink ribbon has worked for me and all is well.   I needed to come up with a short conversation piece that can relate to them that I'm still fighting the big fight, I could still use their prayers and please don't mock me because I'm doing this.  So I came up with: "Conventional treatment hasn't been working for me, so I'm taking the road less traveled and doing some alternative things" Typically, I get a puzzled look so I take it a step further:  "I'm doing some holistic remedies"  Ahhhhh (that gets em)  Now they look at me completely different with a so sorry because you appear so healthy look and then, just that quickly...I've turned from cancer-recovery-chic to huge nutcase.   I'm open for suggestions! 

    Body Mechanics

    Yoga is da bomb!   I love it so much and I'm amazed I've only talked about it in the past 2 years instead of actually doing it!  2 nights a week but here I am...sitting here wishing it was right now!  The stretching feels so good and I feel as though I'm opening up my rib cage and chest wall to drain out all the lysed material.  I still pull out the mat most every morning and do some modified stretching and then on to the mini tramp.  The best thing about Yoga is it is teaching me to be conscious of my breathing.  I love that.   I haven't done the sauna yet.  I still want to, but I keep coming up with reasons why I shouldn't.   The main one being I don't want to get dehydrated.  I'm still going to go just cautiously...Hopefully, this week. 

    Today's measurements:  (Whoohoo!)

    Left Mid Back Nodule:  Feels like a firm grain of rice
    0.9cm in length x 0.6 in width (marked improvement from last week)

    Palpated measurement of R medial reconstructed breast: Feels smaller and is more firm.  Disc shaped

    Palpated measurement of R upper buttock Node:  Smaller with a slight location change!  This has moved towards the outer quadrant and definitely more towards the surface.  Firm.

    Oh, and if anyone is interested in my personal stats I stand 5'6" (6 1/2 after Yoga:) and I'm hovering between 138-142 pounds.

    I keep reminding myself of passage in the book (Outsmart Your Cancer) in regards to tumor regression:   "The first two months or so may simply involve the Protocel formula stopping the progression of the cancer and stabilizing tumor growth.  This in itself is a wonderful thing. ~Tanya Harter Pierce, M.A., MFCC

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    Kat

    Just wanted to THANK YOU for your courage, and your generosity in sharing such a difficult experience, and add my hopes to others that this works for you. I hope this thread stays very positive.

    PLEASE, please, please, before anyone even thinks of criticizing the choices Kat is making, please read her detailed bio posted on her member page.  Sorry to have to write that, but I feel it strongly.  And take special notice, Kat had an Oncotype DX score of 16 at her initial diagnosis.

    Again, thank you Kat, all good wishes for you, success, healing, NED, many, many years of a long and healthy life.

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  • AnnE16
    AnnE16 Member Posts: 241
    edited May 2012

    Kat,

    Your story and results are inspring!  Keep up the GREAT work! A had some questions for you...1) why are you not supposed to take Vit C and are you talking capsules or IV?  2) you said in your bio that you decided on this b/c you didn't have mets to any vital organs.  I have bone mets so would this protocol not be as good for me then?

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited May 2012

    Hi Smiley...

    The reason they don't want you to have Vit C is because it promotes ATP (Adenosine triphosphate)  production. ATP is a form of energy for both healthy and cancer cells.  When using Protocel, this should be avoided because ATP interferes with what Protocel is trying to do the cancer cells. (starve them of energy)  The same is true for Vit E and Selenium, but I understand moderation in diet is fine...it's the actual supplements they don't want you to have.  When Protocel shuts down the energy of a cancer cell it breaks it apart and dies.  This small alteration in energy to healthy cells does nothing to them and they go unharmed. 

    The Protocel is a liquid...an elixir actually....that you carefully measure out 1/4 tsp and put it in a glass, a bottle or even a sippy cup filled with 5oz of distilled water (no energy in distilled water) and drink it down.  It's tastes fine.  Not objectionable at all.  I tease my family and friends and say it tastes like Life.  :)   (I usually get an eye roll for that one!:)

    I guess I should have been more clear in my bio...The main reason that I felt I could manage this therapy was because I am fortunate (is that right word?) to have palpable and measurable tumors.  I figured this would be ideal to chronical this journey by seeing (or not seeing) actual progress...and not having a lot of scans in my future is appealing too.  I have no doubt that if I had mets to major organs in addition to the mets I have of my lymphatic system, I would still be traveling this path. No doubt about it, it's working for me!

    I hope that helps! 
    Kat

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  • lrr4993
    lrr4993 Member Posts: 937
    edited May 2012

    Hi Kat - I saw this thread in the active list and thought I would pop in again and see how things are going.  It sounds positive!  Just out of curiosity, is your onco monitoring your progress in any way?  I don't mean to question your measuring the palpable tumors, but it would sure be interesting (as well as crazy exciting) to have imaging confirmation of what you feeling. Continued good luck!! 

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  • AnnE16
    AnnE16 Member Posts: 241
    edited May 2012

    Hi Kat,

    Thanks for your response! I can feel your passion which is awesome!  I am still confused about the Vit C thing though.  I have a friend who is treating her colon cancer with Vit C IV 2-3 times a week. She declined chemo and radation. She did have surgery and is almost a year out and doing great!  So are you saying that only when you do this protocel is when you shouldn't do Vit C pills or IV?  But in general, Vit C isn't bad right?  I thought they had studies showing Vit C IV was effective in some cancers?

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited May 2012

    Yes Lisa, I have an appoint with my Onc on the 24th of May for labs and a general 'check up'  I'm sure she'll be scheduling my scan for the first of June if not earlier...

    This is my own personal opinion, but I feel she is very anxious to prove me wrong with the scans so she can say I told you so.   And yes, it will be crazy exciting when I have imaging confirmation of what I'm feeling! (well said, thanks!:)

    Thanks!

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited May 2012

    Lots of folks use Vit C for alternative cancer treatments.  Nothing wrong with that and believing in the treatment you're doing is half the battle. 

    Resarch, learn everything you can and make an informed decision about how you want to see this through.  If Protocel is something that anyone wants to look in to, the 'required reading' for the treatment is called "Out Smart Your Cancer - Alternative Non-Toxic Treatments that Work" by Tanya Harter Pierce, M.A., MFCC.  She talks about other modalities as well but does devote 4 chapters to Protocel alone. 

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  • Heidi207
    Heidi207 Member Posts: 31
    edited May 2012

    Wow....met with my new oncologist (1st time) yesterday and she has never even heard of Protocel. What a disappointment! I didn't exactly expect her to be a proponent, but not even heard of it? Really?  I gave her a copy of the eBook and she said she'll read it. Soon as PET and bone scans are completed I'll be searching for a new doctor.

    Restarted Protocel on Monday ... after stopping temporarily pre-surgery. Can't wait to see some results! 

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited May 2012

    Don't be too hard on your Onc Heidi...some of these physicians are just so busy with their everyday practice they simply don't have time to go outside the lines and see what alternative treatments are out there.  It's not something they feel they need to know, so they don't study it.  By giving her the eBook, you're at least making her aware and giving her the opportunity to become informed. 

    I also don't think there is an Oncologist out there who would support the stand alone treatment of Protocel.  I don't even think my own Onc will keep me on as a patient for much more than a couple of visits before she cuts me loose. (when their mind is closed, it's closed)  Integrative MD's do a combination of alternative and conventional methods and since I have no more desire for conventional,  I think my family doctor is who will ultimately see me through this. 

    So, I guess my point is, don't go doctor shopping until she gives you a clear indication that that is what you should be doing.

    Prayers for continued healing!
    Kat

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited May 2012

    Week 7 (Started Protocel 23 on March 20, 2012)

    Flash on - Flash off. That's our new saying this week.  Since I was catapulted into menopause in mid-March by having my ovaries removed, the hot flashes are "stop you in your tracks intense"...but only for about 20 seconds or so... and not intense in a bad way either.  It's a rush wave that starts with my scalp and moves down to my toes.   For whatever reason, I feel the need to announce it.  "Whoa...flashing" That somehow helps me ride the wave I guess.  

    With more intense flashing this week there have been less signs of lysing.  (Or is that my sign?)  Whatever the cause, it had me in a little bit of a meltdown and I started second guessing my diet like crazy.  I had given up all the broccoli and berries prior to the start of this regimen...mainly because I was afraid of the Vit C.  Now, I'm reading too much about Vit E and Selenium and feel as though my diet is too rich in these.  (1/4 cup of mixed nuts, eggs, chicken, baby spinach etc.)   I placed a call to Dr. Kim Cassidy, Naturopath at Vitamin Depot... She's amazing and very helpful.  (Her contact information is readily available to anyone.)

    She explained to me that my diet was fine.  It's the supplements she wants me to stay away from.   Also, anything fortified like Vitamin water or maybe even the almond milk I had been putting on my bran flakes in the morning is not good...so back to 2% milk on my cereal. Still having awesome restraint with sugar but I always was more of a sodium gal so it's not hard for me.    

    Then she said something that made the most sense of all.  "Lysing is cyclical" Just like healthy cells have a shelf life, so do cancer cells.  Weeks when I have a lot more signs of lysing could be happening at a time when the natural cycle of things is peaking as well.  Waxing and waning...ebbing and flowing...all those fancy ways to say the cycle of life.  My proof of the rhythm last week has been mainly eye dust in the morning and flashing.  The sweating associated with these must be excreting a good majority of the lysed material.  I has to be...I just don't see where else it could be going.  There's no mucus on my stools but my afternoon fatigue continues so I know its working. 

    Still, I want to keep pushing the envelope.

    So, We talked about Paw-Paw and how it works synergistically with Protocel .  I've been on Protocel for 7 weeks so maybe this a good time to introduce it.  It works in much the same way as Protocel by shutting down the energy of the cell at the respiration level.  Some people choose to take Paw Paw as a stand-alone therapy just as I have been doing with Protocel...or some folks combine the two.    I will have to take it with food at different times that I take the Protocel without.  So, adding in 3 additional times to my dosing will look something like this:   (I would be taking 2 capsules 3 times a day)

    6am Protocel
    8am Paw Paw with food
    10am Protocel
    12N: Paw Paw with food
    3pm Protocel
    6pm Paw Paw with food
    8pm Protocel
    1am Protocel

    I purchased a month's supply (39.99) and am going to give it a go on Monday.  I feel like I'm in crunch time mode because I only have 2 ½ weeks until I see the oncologist again and she'll probably order a scan for the 1st of June. 

    I have misgivings about not being true to the Protocel but if they truly do work together, maybe I would be crazy not to try it?  Being in the driver's seat...on the road less traveled...and without a Garmin does comes certain responsibilities. 

    I'm still in Yoga class 2 times a week and I also do a little yoga stretching every day...followed by the mini tramp to stimulate my lymphatic system. I think I'm doing everything right!   Even our Pastor last night said "Kat, you look stronger and healthier every week!"   (YaY!)

    Today's measurements:

    Left Mid Back Nodule:  Softer...with less depth.  Slight amount of discomfort with pressing on
    it.  0.8cm L x 0.5cm W  (This is down from last week!)

    Palpated measurement of R medial reconstructed breast:  Feels rounder. Still firm - feels unchanged in size.

    Palpated measurement of R upper buttock Node:  This one also feels rounder and firmer.  Feels a little bigger than it did last week...but maybe since it's presenting more superficially I can palpate it easier. 

    Oh, and I went to the dentist last week and she confirmed what I said a few weeks ago.  My gums are in great shape!  No swelling, bleeding and they're a nice pink color.   I of course attribute it to the bonus effects of the powerful antioxidant properties of Protocel but she thought maybe it was the no sugar in my diet.  I suppose I can go with both theories!  :)

    Have a great week!

    Kat

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  • Sibel
    Sibel Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2012

    Hi Kat,

    would you tell me where did you purchase protocel?

    Regards,

    Sibel

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2012
    Thought I'd drop by again and say Hi Kat - keep up the good work Wink
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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited May 2012

    Hi Sibel.

    I have been purchasing my Protocel from Vitamin Depot yourvitamindepot.com  The owner, Dr. Kimberly Cassidy is a Naturopath and she's very helpful!  If you order it today, you will probably have it by Saturday.  It comes that fast...via priority mail.  They also send you a free medicine dropper. 

    My sister phoned yesterday and she liked what I had to say about my gums being in great shape.  She ordered some to hopefully reduce her time in the periodontist chair and save thousands and thousands of dollars on gum work.  (she's had 3 surgeries in the past 8 years)  I hope this works for her and will stave off any cancer if there is any floating around in her! 

    Good luck with it and thanks for popping in Maud! :)
    Kat

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited May 2012

    I just thought I would share this with anyone following this thread...I had an hour long hot stone lymph draining massage yesterday and It was AMAZING!  I asked the therapist to kind of assess for any new lumps or bumps that I could be completely unaware of and I'm happy to report she found none.  She also said I had negative signs for lymphedema (although I think I have some truncal but my abdomen wasn't assessed.)   

    Here's the exciting thing though...this morning, (5/10) I'm going through my morning ritual of touching the 3 cancers I can touch and (call me crazy;) but I feel two out of the three palpable tumors have changed and shrunken significantly!  I wonder if I had an accumulation of dead cells still clumped on to the masses that got dislodged and broken apart and swept away with the massage? (I know right?)  The only tumor that showed no change was the one on my reconstruction because of course she wouldn't be massaging those!  (I guess I have a job for dh tonight!;) 

    I have also started to pinpoint body responses after dosing.  Almost exactly 20 minutes after a dose of Protocel my nose starts to run.  40 minutes later I start flashing and that continues on and off for at about 20 more minutes.  The jury is still out on the Paw Paw. Maybe I'll have more to share this weekend.

    I also think I may have just dipped myself into the fountain of youth!  Check out this interview with Ed Sopcak on his changes to the formula and its success with ALL anaerobic cells...not just cancer.  Any sign of viral, bacterial or mutated copies of DNA are anaerobic cells that are now starving because of Protocel.  Here's the link to the article:  http://lightparty.com/Health/CANCELL1.html  The copyright date is 1996, but the first paragraph sounds like it was written yesterday. 

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  • Layla2525
    Layla2525 Member Posts: 827
    edited May 2012

    Good luck to you with the Protocel 23, have never heard of it tho. I had an allergic reaction to Arimidex and the MO just says I cant take it cause it made my tongue swell and I couldnt breath and made my bld prez go up and they had to start me on meds for that. I had all the other side effects as well listed on the brochure. I told my PS my story of what all happened to me trying to take the Arimi and she told me to start on Protandim. I have never heard of it and she told me she was doing a presentation on it and I could come and listen. Has anyone heard of it? Is it any good? The MO did not offer me an alternative drug and told me I would just get 3mths between exams. I am puzzled and wondering if this is ok.

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited May 2012

    Hi Layla,

    I had not heard of Protandim but I googled it and it's pretty interesting.  It sounds to me as though it is more of a prevention type of treatment...which is great if your NED (No evidence of disease) which hopefully you are! :)  Your PS probably loves this treatment for its fast wound healing properties... but I doubt your MO would advocate it.  You could certainly work with both physicians for the best outcome. 

    Has your Oncologist given you a PET scan?  You can request one if they have not advised you to do one.  Unfortunately, they chop and burn first and scan second so you may not know if more cancer is growing.  Why is that practice not reversed?  If you have a proactive MO and you've been scanned and you're all clear, I would think every 3 months appointments with you MO sound feasable and he/she may draw labs and tumor markers at those exams to keep a closer watch on you! :)

    Kat

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  • Heidi207
    Heidi207 Member Posts: 31
    edited May 2012

    Kat,

    Your note about "flashing" struck a chord. I've been flashing frequently since surgery and restarting Protocel. Was wondering if it was just the surgery (trauma) or the Protocel causing them.  Am post-menopausal and have had night sweats for years, but not flashes like these! One minute I'm peeling off layers, next I grab a warm blanket to warm up. It's crazy!

    Am trying to stay on schedule. but the 4 hours dosage is starting to get to me. Right now I;m out of work so I can manage it. When I return to work it will become much more difficult.  But your results continue to inspire and motivate m!

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited May 2012

    Thanks for that feedback Heidi...now I know I'm not crazy!  I think this is a positive, positive thing that we're both experiencing hot flashes after dosing.  Whoohoo!  :)

    When I was working while on Protocel, I just premixed my doses in distilled water in a mini water bottle.  I either carried them in my lunch bag or my purse.   By the time you have to go back to work, dosing will be so ritualistic you won't even think twice about packing up your protocel! :)

    Took a 15 minute sauna this morning with my daughter who just got home from college.  She needed to cleanse all the toxins out from last semester and I'm anxious to flush my own toxins out.  I don't want to over do it though.  I think 1-2x a week ought to be sufficient.

    Thanks for popping in and sharing Heidi!
    Have a great day! :)
    Kat

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  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited May 2012

    Hi there Kat,

    Can I ask how much Protocel costs per month?  You can PM if you want.

     Thanks! 

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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited May 2012

    No problem sweetbean.  A month's supply of Protocel runs around 93.00 plus shipping from yourvitamindepot.com  They also include a free medicine dropper.  That is for the 8oz bottle and that's the size I recommend.  The larger 16oz bottle is a better value, but since there is so much messy dispensing and vigorous shaking that goes with this method, I have decided that the 8oz bottle is worth the 4 extra dollars in storage and waste. 

    I would also recommend your first purchase be for 2 8oz bottles.  In the event that you spilled one or dropped one you shook one without the lid on tight....or you didn't order your next bottle quick enough...it's always best to have a spare bottle on hand so your dosing is NEVER interrupted! :)

    And you get it super fast too! 

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    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited May 2012

    Happy Mother's Day!  Since I've been so chatty this week, and I've got to get busy making brunch for my Mom and my MIL, I'll just cut to the measurements right away! 

    Left Mid Back Nodule: 0.6cm x 0.5cm  (down from last week:  0.8cm x 0.5cm) 

    Palpated measurement of R medial reconstructed breast:
    Feels rounder. Still firm - feels a smidge smaller.

    Palpated measurement of R upper buttock Node: I having trouble finding this one...and when I do, it's pea size and more outer than upper/outer. (meaning more lateral to the side)

    I should mention the Paw Paw real quick before I go...I've been tinkering with it in addition to the Protocel and it's going ‘just okay'  I started it on Monday taking 2 capsules 3 times a day with food.  Things were going along fine with a little nausea on Tuesday...but by Friday I had such intense vertigo that I couldn't even do Yoga for fear I would hurl.  Motion sickness...dizzy, dizzy, dizzy!  Which makes me wonder if my ears weren't draining more than usual.  I don't know.  I cut back to twice a day (every 12 hours with food) and now its Sunday again and I'm feeling fine.  Extremely tired but fine.  My main treatment focus is still Protocel...Paw Paw is just a supporting player.

    Until next time....God is Good!
    Kat

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2012

    Hi Kat !  Take a look at this:

    "Yousry Naguib, Ph.D., highlights the uses of beta-glucans and their use in fighting cancer. Although not necessary for paw paw to work, various people (including Dr. McLaughlin) suggested the use of a good beta-glucan product along with paw paw"

    Maybe, this makes this very potent herb easier to take Smile

    http://www.pawpawresearch.com/beta-glucan-article.htm 

    I'm presently taking Graviola, but when I finish bottle, will be switching to PawPaw, 50% more potent ! 

    ETA: Kat, my links don't work since new system was implemented...once you're in www.pawpawresearch.com, go to articles and scroll down, you'll find the article on beta glucans (fourth one) 

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