March 2012 chemo

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  • Buddhahead
    Buddhahead Member Posts: 66
    edited April 2012

    tellie-I am opting for BMX instead of UMX, my decision. Odds are too great and I don't want to go through multiple biopsies at every mammo visit and dread the worst. For me, best to just zap 'em both off and get implants. I'm looking into those gummy ones and will ask my PS when I visit next time.

    I'm on day 3 of TX4 and am tired, tired, tired and have taken my nausea med this a.m. 

    Shera-Nice warrior woman you've got there. Thanks for posting her strength for us!

    On a funny, weird note about cravings, I had a craving for McD's filet o' fish last night and DH dutifully went out for one (sans tarter sauce). I hadn't had or wanted one of those for probably 15 years. I picked at it but it did taste good. So weird the cravings that come,almost a bit like pregnancy. WTH?

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    Praying for you, too, nsmolen: You are powerful. You are strong. So are we!  Our hope and love together are more powerful than anything.  We are here for you.  Hugs!!!!

  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2012

    Nsmolen-  As you know we had similar size tumors and rapid growth.  My ONC has had me on Taxotere, Adrcamycin, and cytoxan.  I have had 3 rds (last one just yesterday) I have seen some shrinkage.  Hopefully the added Taxotere will help you.  Looking at the different "cocktails" out there they should find something that works for you.  My thoughts are with you. 

    Ktlb04- Heck we, as most D&D players< make fun of ourselves as geeks.  Anyone who can freely quote Monty Python's Holy Grail has to have a sense of humor about themselves.  Look up Stephan Lynch's song D&D on you tube, we often play that before a game, it is pretty funny, your husband should relate to it as well. 

    http://youtu.be/QgOB7VWjlSQ

    Speaking of Stephan Lynch- most of his stuff is pretty raunchy, although the D&D song is pretty tame, but I would recomend him for a laugh.  His Dr. Stephan song cracks me up everytime.

  • Sissydi
    Sissydi Member Posts: 516
    edited April 2012

    Nsmolen, they have many options for chemo. Don't panic; theirs a lot they can do yet! Your in my prayers...

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    tellie - oh dear... "We can't take him like that - it's against regulations!" 

    Sadly, I probably could quote you the whole script to Monty Python and the Holy Grail.  In fact, until I decided to take Bridesmaids, I *was* going to take MPATHG to watch during my first treatment.

    As I confessed last week, I am officially out of the geek closet - and not embarrassed to admit it!  Smile 

    On the other hand, however, while I did hang out with some medieval re-enactors back in my college days, I never have done D&D - just got together with my buddy at the time while *her* DH got his D&D fix.  

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited April 2012

    tellie - That.was.awesome.  I will be sure and share it with him.  Lol Indigo, "out of the geek closet".

    nsmolen - still thinking about you...

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012

    nsmolen- Sorry to hear the news.  My prayers and thoughts are with you.

  • Buddhahead
    Buddhahead Member Posts: 66
    edited April 2012

    nsmolen--My thoughts prayers and positive energy is with you, dear heart. <3

  • mt4ever
    mt4ever Member Posts: 105
    edited April 2012

    nsmolen - Lifting you up in prayer right now!

    For everyone else I am just getting ready to get my 2nd TCH on Monday.  The first infusion I am happy to say I did not have that many side effects.  In fact I almost feel bad that I didn't!  But I wanted to hear from you gals did your side effects worsen with each infusion?  I still have my hair but my scalp feels funny so I guess it is just a matter of time. 

    I am very nervous about Monday and what to expect as far as will this time be worse than the first time or it will be the same!?!!  So glad I have a group of people to come bounce questions off of!  Thanks!!! 

  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2012

    mt4ever- my second go around was over all easier than the first, but it varies for everyone.  The fatigue was not as intense but although way milder it seemed to last longer.  Just had 3rd yesterday and am feeling way better this time even!  The stupid Nuelasta (sp?) seems to be my nemisis.  But my oncologist nurse told me to do a few extra days on the steriods and that seems to help with the joint pain.

    Good luck and min SE's!

    Corky

  • mt4ever
    mt4ever Member Posts: 105
    edited April 2012

    Corky I had more side effects from the Nuelasta also!  I felt like I had the flu: joint aches, headache, fatigue really bad! 

  • connief
    connief Member Posts: 13
    edited April 2012

    Nsmolen - sorry to hear your news. I will praying for you and that your MO finds something that works for you.



    I was wondering how everyone deals with the loss of taste. Nothing I eat has any taste. Is there anything you can do.

  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2012

    connief- I have found chocolate is still good.  I put cocoa in my coffee to make it drinkable.  Chocolate ice cream, good.  Popsickles are good also, which is strange because I haven't really enjoyed them since childhood.  Taste does return between TX's, at least for me, they are 3 weeks apart.

    Corky

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited April 2012

    For me I lost them for longer the first treatment - about 10 days, the second treatment it was about 7 days so my 3rd is next week so I'm hoping for 7 or better!  I still eat though, just can't taste it.  I would be ok with skipping some meals, but I know i need to keep my strength up!  I think cold things taste better than hot.  I drank my coffee everyday, but I do like it more when I can actually taste it!

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited April 2012

    connief

    For some reason for me sugar/chocolate tastes fine.  I know its not the best solution but I enjoyed some banana bread the last couple of days.  I'm a salt lover and it tastes just gross to me the first few days after TX so I can't use it for flavour at all.  A weird thing I actually enjoy and my Mom used to make it for us for lunch when we were kids, is left over mashed potatoes (I like mashing spinach into mine).  Fry it it just a tablespoon of butter in a pan, then put a soft fried egg or poached egg over top.  Kind of like a warm potato salad and at least you get the 3 food groups. I actually had it the last two days for lunch and today I made perogies.  Bland but fill you up.

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited April 2012

    Nsmolen: thinking of you with all my might and sending all the strength and healing vibes I can to you and that boob. Wish we could be with you.

  • FightingforA
    FightingforA Member Posts: 62
    edited April 2012

    Well, things aren't looking too good. It looks like this beast has set up shop in my liver. There were 3 spots on the liver on the CT. I'm having an MRI this morning to see how involved it is. I'm starting 2 new. Hemp drugs tomorrow. I honestly don't even know what they are because I was in shock and just wasn't listening. I know that they're supposed to be pretty strong (of course, so was the A/C). The nurse said it's going to be pretty rough. The onc wasn't very optimistic at all. He told us that this is not survivable and that most cases, it's a few months to a few years. I'm feeling so hopeless right now. I feel like in a way, I'm already gone.

  • CAYH
    CAYH Member Posts: 99
    edited April 2012
     
    Shera - you've depicted our "SuperShero" perfectly!
     
    kltb - no contacts for moi, but this eye watering seems to be getting worse since I stopped taking the Claratin - will start again this morn since A/C #3 is this afternoon.  Must make an appt with my opthamologist too...funny, it's better when I'm outside in bright sun wearing my sunglasses - maybe I should start wearing them in the house?!
     
    msmolen - am so very sorry to hear your cancer has not responded to the A/C & has spread!   You've just rec'd the news that we all dread. Ask your MO about integrative therapies to go along with the new drugs.  It pisses me off to think we are medically still treating the symptons of this disease (tumors) without paying any attention to what causes our bodies to allow it to happen in the first place...
     
    I know there's very little definitive info simply because it's not been "scientifically proven" in clinical studies, but there are lots of things we can do to help make our bodies fight.  Here's a lengthy article by Dr. Kevin Connors that outlines in great detail some of our options.  
     
    Warning:  I hesitated posting this because sifting through the info is tedious & can be overwhelming.  He's of the opinion that not all conventional therapies are warrented or even helping.  He does look at many other options & maybe we need to pay more attention to some of  those along with our conventional treatments:
     
     
    Personally, I want/need to look at all aspects of treatment that may help us & we are our own best advocates...
     
    Hugs to you all. 
     
     
     

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited April 2012

    First of all I am heartbroken for you. Secondly do NOT give up hope. Go over to the stage IV boards and get some advice. Third get a second opinion. There are a lot of options out there and your onc doesn't sound like the most optimistic person and that he/she had written you off. I am constantly thinking of you.

  • MichelleMassey
    MichelleMassey Member Posts: 213
    edited April 2012

    You're not gone, just in shock. They gave my grandma 3 months and she went 13 years. I know there isn't anything I can say to help right now. You're in my prayers girl.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited April 2012

    I agree get a second opinion.  You can beat this!  We are all here for you and I'm praying for you!

  • StayShiny
    StayShiny Member Posts: 141
    edited April 2012

    nsmolen - first let me say that my heart goes out to you. Second, you are not gone, overwhelmed + in shock i'm sure. I am triple negative too so I have been surfing the net about this since my dx. There are many drugs to fight this beast and it is a different beast. There are also many ladies that have been living with advanced progression for years. I agree, seek out a second or third opinion even while you start the new drugs. Sounds like your MO is not very positive and may not have much experience with triple negative. The stage IV threads here are a good suggestion too. The TNBC Foundation also has a good website and forums there that you can seek advice on. You may want to look into an onco group that has access to a tumor board like Memorial Sloan-Kettering cancer center. That way you get the benefit of many specialists looking at your situation. Time to get out the big guns!! You can do it!

  • Sissydi
    Sissydi Member Posts: 516
    edited April 2012

    Praying for you nsmolen, please keep us updated....I like the advice the ladies have given you. Get a second opinion! You need a doc who gives you hope, not one who blows you off as hopeless. We are here for you.

  • Westwoodmom
    Westwoodmom Member Posts: 11
    edited April 2012

    Nsmolen - please know our thoughts are with you and I agree to get a second opinion. There are lots of options and treatments out there. Please know we're here for you.

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited April 2012

    Nsmolen

    I have nothing to add only to say that you're in my prayers.  I totally agree for getting another opinion, dealing someone that is negative is not going to help at all.  Please remeber that you ARE still here!!!

    Just add an additional inspiring story,my friends Mom was DX very shortly after me, she was told by another MO to get her affairs in order that there was nothing they could do for her..  She obtained a referral to where I'm being treated and that's exactly what they are doing, treating her!!!  Virtually the same TX I'm getting too! 

  • Msbelle
    Msbelle Member Posts: 235
    edited April 2012

    NSMOLEN-don't stop fighting!!! So much of this is our attitude. You can do it and we are here to help!



  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2012

    nsmolen- please, please get a second opinion.  I hate to write this, but there is a lady that gets chemo with me that told me she had given up, they had told her it was uncurable and she just didn't want to go through it anymore. Then her daughter got pregnant and she decided she want to see the baby.  The MO she goes to now told her "I can't cure you, but I can keep you alive until they find the cure".  My MO told me that even a few years ago my odds would have been much worse.  Don't give up!  BTW, the lady now has met 2 grandbabies.

    Love to you,

    Corky

  • Buddhahead
    Buddhahead Member Posts: 66
    edited April 2012

    Nsmolen--Just another vote of support for you. You've received a lot of good advice.Just know we're here. A warm embrace for you.{{{{}}}}

  • Amymomto5
    Amymomto5 Member Posts: 73
    edited April 2012

    Nsmolen... I am praying for you too.  Especially for wisdom for your doctors.  I agree with others, get a second opinion, even a third!  I agree with CAYH, there are things WE can do to help ourselves!  I am reading Anticancer, and it has really opened my eyes.  (author had brain cancer, recommends do all the tx's, but sooo many other things to help our bodies to fight).  Also, Crazy Sexy Cancer by Kris Carr - she was told her rare liver/lung cancer could not be treated.  She found things she could do and is alive still, years later.  You can fight this!  Don't give up!  We are all rooting for you!

    Hugs, Amy 

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited April 2012
    msmolen-prayers going out to you!  NEVER give up! Sending you big (((HUGS)))

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