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  • Racy
    Racy Member Posts: 2,651
    edited March 2012

    Yes I saw that movie and it really whet my appetite.

  • mccrimmon324
    mccrimmon324 Member Posts: 1,076
    edited March 2012

    Good Afternoon from Rome Ladies. 

    Can you believe it's noon and hubby and I are just getting ready to leave the hotel.  He's not feeling so hot so we had breakfast then a nap and now we're off for a tour of the catacombs. 

    If anyone is interested.  I do post pics on FB, if you want to friend me, I'd be happy to accept.  So far we haven't gotten too many up as the internet in our hotel is not wonderful and it is the only place we have had wifi available.  We do plan to keep posting pics and can't wait for our trip to Paris!

    Search Heather Kriston McCrimmon

    Hope everyone has a great day, and so far the weather has been beautiful!!

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited March 2012

    Heather - I sent you a friend request.  Can't wait to see your pictures!  And I hope your DH is feeling better soon!!!

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited March 2012

    Just caught this thread and thought I would add a few things. I L O V E Paris. I have been there 3 times and plan to go again someday. No I am not rich. I am lucky to have some French friends, related to my former job who have helped me do Paris on a budget.

    My favorite things:

    walking the city and just enjoying the ambience. Just beware, it is easy to get turned around, the streets go in circles and sometimes it is a bit disconcerting to end up on a desolate street. I found the carnes for the metro to be just as good as a city pass, but if you plan to do a lot of excursions, get a train pass from a local travel agent. They can make sure you get one that goes to the areas you plan to visit. Train travel is easy and the metro is great once you get it figured out. You can also take the train from the airport, but pack light. We actually did our laundry once and it was no big deal. Bring a little soap powder.

    It is great you have an apt. I loved being able to shop for food and make sandwiches and such. Take them to the a, sit on a bench and have a picnic while people watching. Plus,we do not like to spend a lot of time waiting in resturants. Places to go, things to see!

    I like the view from the top of the Arc de Triomphe better that the Eiffel Tower. You have to climb the stairs, but it was fun. And less crowds. It is great to stand at the center of it all and get that 360 view.

    The bateau on the Seine are such a cliche, but they really are relaxing and a great first thing to do because you get your bearings.

    I do not like the Louvre nearly as much as Le Musee D'orsay, which where you will see more impressionists rather than classics. 

    I love history so the Conciergiere is a very interesting. 

    My husband is catholic so I planned a tour d'eglises for him one Sunday. We literally did 6 cathedrals in one day. We started out with mass at the oldest (St. Louis?). We heard the huge pipe organ at St. Suplice (check for times). We went to Sacre Couer, a couple of others I can't remember and the highlight was a sunset mass in Notre Dame where we heard a beautiful A Capella chorale. I told my husband if he moved me to Paris, even I would convert to catholicism. lol

    The day trip to Giverny and Versailles is well worth it. But don't try it in the same day as we did on a tour even though they are in the same direction. Each one deserves a full  day to enjoy.

    Buy your train passes and museum tickets here to avoid the lines, and the deals are not always available there.

    Use the ATM's but check with your bank to see if they know where you can get the best deals on fees.

    Be wary of the panhandles around the main tourist sites. I found them to be very agressive.

    Talk quietly and dress like the natives. No tennis shoes or shorts. Do not draw attention to yourself as being American, but I found Parisians to be usually very nice as long as I made some attempt to speak French. I only had one rude waiter in 3 trips and that was because he would not get me any ice. Do not expect to get ice. It was so hot when I was there one June. I finally had to break down and go to a MCD, just so I could buy a cup of ice!

    I would skip the Moulin Rouge and only visit the Montmatre area during the day. The view is really great from there.

    Bon Voyage!

  • mccrimmon324
    mccrimmon324 Member Posts: 1,076
    edited March 2012

    Back from our trip, had a fantastic time.  DH got sick, turns out pnemonia and was kind enough to pass it along to me, woke up the day we left with it, however, mine was caught early and I feel much better. 

    Rome was absolutely amazing with the ruins, but I have to say the 4 of us left somewhat unimpressed.  It was very dirty and we felt the people were rather rude.  The food was fantastic, the sites were unbelievable though.  When we are feeling better we will post pics. We had a terrible time in both Rome and Paris with the internet so it was difficult to post. 

    Paris was just as amazing as the first time.  We did manage to get to the top of the Eiffel Tower this time, we actually had reservations for Jules Verne it's a restaurant on the Eiffel Tower, My DH wanted to treat everyone to it as my "after treatment" celebration.  It was absolutey fabulous, but I'm afraid we'll be paying off that bill for a few months!  LOL 

    Somehow we managed the Arc de Triomphe twice.  That's a lot of steps.  Can't believe my legs did it!  Beautiful views!  We also did the Musee d'orsy, Wonderful.  Loved it.  Maybe even better than the lovre!

    Its always fun to ride the metro, and definitely stroll thru the latin quarter too. 

    Hubby wants me to add that if your staying in Montmarte-we ate at a restaurant called Une Zebra De Montmarte - I'll post the address and correct spelling latter.  He ordered the Braised beef with onion sauce and au gratin potatoes.  It was probably the best dish either of us have ever had.  So so good.  I had the salmon and vegetables, delicious as well, highly recommend.  We split a chocolate mousse, very rich and delicious.  Just make sure you have a cappachino with it. 

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited March 2012

    Heather - pneumonia???  OMG, that is no way to end a trip!  I hope you are both on the mend real soon!  And so glad you had a great trip.  Thanks for the warning about the internet in Paris.  I guess we'd better be prepared to be out of touch while we are there.  Then we can be excited if it's better than expected...lol!

  • mccrimmon324
    mccrimmon324 Member Posts: 1,076
    edited March 2012

    luvrving, Last year we had blackberry's and this year we had the iphone 4, no problems with the blackberry at all

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited March 2012

    I think it depends on your carrier.  The GSM network is pretty universal in Europe, I think.  I have Sprint which uses CDMA and I'm guessing it's not going to work.  I'm hoping our apartment has internet access.

  • KSteve
    KSteve Member Posts: 486
    edited April 2012

    Last night in Florence . . . Can't believe it's time to go home tomorrow. LOVED Florence and Venice. Really enjoyed the Tuscan countryside and our winery tour. Went to Siena that day too and it was such a cute little town. But I agree with you, Heather, didn't really like Rome. Loved the ruins, Sistine chapel, etc., but didn't care for the city. More about the trip later. Got to get packed now and get ready to say goodbye to my little girl (who's actually 21, but still my little girl). Five more weeks til she comes back home.

    Hope everyone has had a great weekend.

    Heather - so sorry your DH got sick and then you had to travel home sick. That sucks.

    Kathy

  • LittleMelons
    LittleMelons Member Posts: 273
    edited April 2012

    Just got back from 2 weeks in Florida, so am just reading these posts now.  Heather, sorry that you and hubby were sick.  Hope it didn't put too much of a damper on your trip.

     Kathy and Heather, sorry to hear that both of didn't particularly like Rome.  I would be interested in hearing more of the details about that.  Was it the dirtiness or unfriendliness of the people? Sounds like you thought that the sights and food were good.

    My husband wants to concentrate on Florence first with maybe a few days in Rome, then a return trip to Rome later for a longer stay. We both love museums and art galleries and historic places, in general.

     Another great city is Vienna.  I spent some time there when I was younger.  It looks like the imperial capital that it once was.  And I absolutely love Wienerschnitzel the way they make it, with European style cucumber and potato salad on the side - yum!

  • mccrimmon324
    mccrimmon324 Member Posts: 1,076
    edited April 2012

    Little Melons,

    Don't get me wrong, it's not that I didn't like Rome, it's that I didn't like it as much as I thought I would and certainly not as much as I love Paris.  I suppose we were just a little disappointed with it.  The city itself is actually dirty.  A lot of graffiti, and everyone, I mean everyone smokes.  There were times standing or walking out on the street we just couldn't get away from the smell of cigarette smoke or car exhaust.  We also found that people were not as friendly as we expected and alot of people selling stuff at the major sites.  They won't leave you alone.  That sounds like a lot of complaining but really, I/we did enjoy ourselves and the ruins and sites are just amazing.  We actually really enjoyed our catacombs and crypts tours.  We have a fantastic tour guide and she was extremely informative.  Just loved her!  However, Appalien Tours or something like that.  We booked thru expedia so I guess you don't find out until the day of the tour what company you'll get.  Well, they took us to The Vactican and LEFT US THERE!  Apparently the Vatican felt my back pack was too big so I was singled out of our group and asked to check it.  The only one of our group (guess it serves me right for getting the obnoxious pink back pack) well, you go in one entrance and the tour ends at the other side of Vatican City.  I had asked the tour guide when we got to the Sistine Chapel ( which was amazing ) when I should go back for my bag and he said he would tell me at the end, I didn't know anything about how long it would take.  At the end of the tour which just happens to be in a little gift shop I pulled him aside again and asked when I should get my bag.  Well, they were ready to leave for the 2nd half of our tour, the Colleseum.  He said I had to walk all the way around Vatican City to where we went in then back again, told me it would take a while and asked if I had anyone that could go get it for me?  What?????  He then said he would wait for both my husband and I, well, 1/2 hr later we got back with my bag and they had gone.  Thankfully, the two other people we had gone with stayed behind and were told someone would be back to pick us up.  We sat on the corner for an hour before I went back to the little gift shop and had them call for us.  Apparently its not the first time they've just left people.  They sent a cab to come get us but we missed the lunch, if I hadn't called no one would have ever come back to get us and we paid for a full day w/lunch.  It really gets under my skin to be lied to like that. 

  • mccrimmon324
    mccrimmon324 Member Posts: 1,076
    edited April 2012

    Sorry, got a bit crazy there.  I promise to post pics when I get a chance. 

  • LittleMelons
    LittleMelons Member Posts: 273
    edited April 2012

    Heather, no you didn't get crazy there at all.  Those are exactly the kinds of details that are good to hear.  I now know not to take a large backpack to the Vatican. Your Vatican tour experience was just terrible, with them leaving you and you missing the lunch. Terrible service and the fact that they lied to you is just incredible.  It's as if they don't care about their reputation.  I often book tours in advance through Expedia, too, and expect them to be reliable, but obviously you can't totally depend on them.  I've heard that you need to book tours of the Vatican and the Coliseum in advance so we have to book from here.

    The Europeans seem to be behind in quitting smoking for sure.  I read somewhere that smoking is now banned in restaurants and bars in Italy.  Did you find that to be the case?  

     Glad you had a great time overall.  Looking forward to seeing some pics when you have a chance.

  • mccrimmon324
    mccrimmon324 Member Posts: 1,076
    edited April 2012

    I don't remember seeing anyone smoking inside a building but everyone hangs by the door and smokes.  I'm an ex-smoker so I can't say too much about it but you'll definitely run into it.  We were also surprised  at the young age of the smokers.  They all seemed to be kids, unless I'm getting that old.  LOL

    Yes, you'll want to leave the back pack at home for your vatican tour.  I think some of our problem was it was so crowded there we just felt like we we be herded thru.  I was pretty disappointed in the touring but not the actual site

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited April 2012

    I've been doing some research and planning for our trip to Paris the last week in May.  I booked Eurostar tickets for a day trip to London - the train prices are more reasonable if booked well in advance.  And there is only one lift working in the Eiffel Tower, so I booked lunch for us in the Jules Verne restaurant.  It's insanely expensive, but it will guarantee we get up to the second floor without a two hour wait or a 30 minute climb up the stairs (which I would not be able to manage).  For anyone planning on going later this summer, you can make reservations for the elevator which will reduce your wait time.  I think they are booked through late June, so don't delay if this is in your plans.  And if you want lots of helpful hints about what to see, where to go, visit www.tripadvisor.com and check out the Paris forum.  It is extremely helpful!

  • mccrimmon324
    mccrimmon324 Member Posts: 1,076
    edited April 2012

    Michelle, We ate dinner at Jules Verne, your right it's INSANELY expensive but it's a once in a lifetime experience and it was worth every penny.  Try the marshmallows they give you for dessert.  Out of this world delicious!

  • mccrimmon324
    mccrimmon324 Member Posts: 1,076
    edited April 2012

    Also wanted to add, confirm your reservations in advance.  We had a problem, they sent two confirming emails with different dates.  Still worth it, but be prepared to spend a lot!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited April 2012

    We were in Paris in November. Dh went to the Louvre one of the days because they had a temporary exhibition that he wanted to see. Meanwhile I went to the Centre Pompidou, which is right downtown and has various temporary exhibitions. When we were there the main exhibition was Edvard Munch. Since I am a fan, but have never made it to Oslo, this was great.

    I also really enjoyed the 3rd arrondissment, especially "la marche des enfants rouges" which is like a farmer's market, but with restaurant stands as well, and a cute shop  called Merci on 111 Blvd Beaumarchais, which has designy stuff. 

    If you have access to a kitchen, do visit a supermarket and buy some great cheese, ham, wine etc. Make sure to visit a couple of bakeries as well. 

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited April 2012

    Momine - here are a couple pictures of the kitchen in the apartment we rented...I think I could prepare most anything in this gem of a space:

    But now that I'm looking at this, I don't see an actual stovetop.  It must be there somewhere, this place has everything else!  We plan to eat most breakfasts in the apartment because we have a balcony and I love sitting out on a balcony having my morning coffee. And I'm sure there will be a night or two when we want to just chill out and eat in. Less than 5 weeks before we leave!

    Heather - thanks for the tip about confirming my reservations...I got just one confirmation email and it is for the right day/time.  Hopefully there will be no confusion with that, as my daughter learned that British Air canceled their particular flight (we're going Air France).  She booked with BA because she has points that made her ticket free.  But, this throws a big wrinkle in the travel plans and now they may end up on our AF flight, which would make things a whole lot easier in the long run.  Nothing like a little drama before the trip...lol.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited April 2012

    Luv, can't see the pic, but most bakeries have wonderful pastries and they will make coffee to go. When we were there, I would go get coffe to take out and pastries every morning and we would eat them in the apartment which looked directly out on the Eiffel Tower.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited April 2012

    Question about coffee, Momine.  I don't like mine too strong - DunkinDonuts is my kind of flavor, I really hate Starbucks as it's just way too bitter for me.  How does French coffee compare (if you happen to know)?  Do I need to brace myself for some really dark stuff, or wimp out and bring my own from home?

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited April 2012

    Luv, I don't think you will find American-style coffee easily in Europe. But you could just ask for a cafe au lait, since the hot milk will make the coffee less bitter.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited April 2012

    Thanks, Momine.  I usually drink my coffee black, so I guess I'll have to go with the milky version while in Paris.  I may just pack a little for when I need a fix of what I'm used to...lol.

  • mccrimmon324
    mccrimmon324 Member Posts: 1,076
    edited April 2012

    Michelle, I love a good strong cup of coffee, absolutely loved their coffee.  Sorry, but your stash may come in handy for you.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited April 2012

    Thanks, Heather!  I guess DD is going international!!!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited April 2012

    Luv now I can see the kitchen. It looks great! The stove is probably gas burners sunk into the countertop.

    When you go to the supermarket, look for ready-made soups. They are usually in the dairy-case (for refrigeration) in large bottles, and some of them are great. With some fab parisian bread and a salad of already prepared greens from the supermarket and a slice of good camembert you have a very quick, easy and good meal and cheaper than eating out.

  • Racy
    Racy Member Posts: 2,651
    edited April 2012

    Thanks ladies, your tips are really helpful. Speaking of tipping, I have to study up on that as we don't have it in Australia. I will have to ask the travel agent.



    Michelle, we are travelling by Eurostar from London to Paris on 24 May. We are staying at a Citadines apartment (I forget which one but it's not too far from town).



    The info about the cathedrals tour, lift at the Tour Eiffel and not taking a large backpack to the Vatican is all noted.



    Only 3 weeks till I depart for London.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited April 2012

    Momine - and wine...can't forget the wine!  And chocolate! 

    Racy - you must be getting very excited!  Can't wait to hear all about it!

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