March 2012 chemo
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Indigo-- I've had 3 and my next is on Mon. 23rd.
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Shera--your sketch is haunting and
Both hair and hairless are beautiful. Dark days suck!
I think we should all do a sit in at taco bell with our bald heads and dry
Mouths. Maybe we would make the national news-- "bald women stage sit- in at taco bells coast to coast in search of something they Can taste. No one was harmed
But the taco bell managers were threatened with hormonally induced rants if the A/C wasn't turned on full blast and the ice machine filled to capacity.":-). Gotta try and keep a sense of humor.
On another note I'm not looking forward to those stinking steroids tomorrow morning. Ugh! -
Lynn, looks like you're into the homestretch, then? *hoping so* here's purple energy to get you through the steroids.
I used to love Taco Bell, too; still like it but seldom eat there any more. It is 11 p.m. here and now I'm thinking about a Mexican pizza.... Maybe I'll get one to console myself after my hair goes....
The pajama stories made me remember - I drove my boys to middle and high school for years, during which time I decided since they had to be at school so early - no later than 7 - and because up until BC I was not enough of a morning person to get up early enough to shower and get ready before they did, I'd just throw on a jacket over my pajamas to take them, and get ready after. It crossed my mind a few times that if something ever happened that caused me to leave my car, it might get embarrassing, but the people at the Starbucks drive in never noticed or cared, and the time I got pulled over in front of the middle school for running a stop sign several blocks away, I had gotten my work clothes on, and the kids were more embarrassed than I was.
However, my luck did run out -twice. I also got a ticket for passing a car in the bike lane near the high school (your honor, in my defense, I made sure there were neither any bikes nor pedestrians in the lane and we were running late). I did have my pajamas on that day; not sure who was more mortified, DS#2 or me. At least the cop didn't make me get out of the car, and he stopped another kid driving by just to get him to give my son a ride up to the school. But that incident cost me about $90 and a fee shreds of my dignity.
The other time was really even worse. I was driving home and DS#1, who has a hard time remembering things, called me to say he'd left his books in the car, and could I drop them by the office because he was in class. A mom teaching her son about responsibility would have said no, but at that point I was worried that DS might not graduate on time, so back I went. I think I did have a jacket on, but the PJ bottoms were my oldest/ugliest, these capri length flowered things. I totally looked like a bag lady. The office was clear on the opposite side of the school and I walked miles of corridors between thousands of kids, wishing I was invisible.
Not my finest action hero moment. You'd think that would cure me of doing the Starbucks drive through in my pajamas but I still do - because I can! -
Good morning ladies! I hope everyone enjoyed their superhero pj's and taco bell! What a fun evening!
I am getting out of the house today! Rested up yesterday so ready to get out and move and get some fresh air!
Enjoy the day!
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Good for you, Kim! Hope the humidity lets up for you! Enjoy!
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Indigo -- I'm on 3rd of 6 tx, and THEN surgery in July. Docs wanted to shrink my tumor before operating. So I don't feel anywhere near the home stretch. :0(
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Finished my last a/c treatment last Monday and now onto to taxol. Halfway through chemo and feeling stronger already!!! Hope everyone's doing well today and enjoying the day!! I was told some people's hair begins to grow back after a/c and I can already notice some slight hair growth (also noticed leg hair trying to come back in also, never knew I would be excited by this!!!!!). Best wishes to all!
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Westwoodmom - I heard the same thing about post A/C. LMK how the taxol goes...that is my regiment too - 4 xA/C then taxol (and herceptin for HER2+) I have #3 of A/C a week from tomorrow.
Lynn - I feel the same way - I thought the other day, hmmm, I am 1/4 the way through chemo then I remember that big ass surgery to come.
Kim - we are too in a bit; just going to get out and drive around to get out of the house - it is crazy windy here though - definitely not a wig day. Speaking of, I hate my halo - I should've gotten a straight one, the curly one just looks clownish. I may do surgery on my freebie wig.
Indigo - LOL LOL LOL...I often take/took my girls to school in my pjs even before BC - on my off days from work, there was no need for me to get dressed! Ok, I am still laughing about you walking down the school halls...too funny. And I totally bail my kids out all the time. Not literally but you know what I mean. Forgotten books, homework, etc...
Busy morning...a friend of mine posted on FB about a "Free Store" they are setting up for families at an apartment complex in town next weekend asking for donations of clothes and toys. I just sold a bunch at a consignment sale a few months ago but I still managed to gather up a few bags of things....love cleaning out and donating to a good cause at the same time.
Then got inspired to clean out kitchen/food cabinets and omg, no one has thrown out anything since I got sick. No wonder everything has been sitting on the counters. And then I moved on to the "baking/cooking" supplies and faced the age old dilemma - spilled chocolate chips or turds? J/K but that was my first thought as I went to wipe out the cabinets!
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Hi again, Lynn, I see. Well, fwiw, having done BMX before chemo, while surgery isn't fun, I honestly think it's been easier to deal with than the chemo. In my case, I'm having delayed recon so that does mean two more surgeries down the road, and granted that the flap type recons are a lot more major than a simple and radical mastectomy like mine. One month out from surgery, though, I'm healing well and completely off even OTC pain meds.
I guess my point is that I'm hoping for you that you're getting the toughest part over with first. Stick with us - we're all in it together no matter what. -
Btw, also fwiw, no PS consult yet, but after everything I've researched, I'm just doing implants. I have a suspicion that I don't have enough fat in the right places, and I just don't want to go through more extensive surgery. So if the implants need replacing a time or two, that's okay and then if I get to be in my seventies I might just decide to do without.
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Good Sunday Afternoon.
I've been trying to follow along this weekend. If I remember what I read, your taking over the world, issuing hot flashes to people as punishment and having a sit in at taco bell. LOVE IT!
MLB-yay on being done!
Lynn- I can relate I celebrate each tx then remember still have to do surgery then rads. Maybe be done by thanksgiving. blah
We will see if this actually post. My internet is not cooperating this week.
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Indigo
I had my MX in December and I agree wtth you that the surgery was easier than chemo. I'm also doing research for recon options. I was originally leaning towared DIEP and have enough in the right places but I am so not up for extensive surgery either. I'm now really leaning toward a TE/Implant with a lift to the right. I'll deal with the fat the old fashioned way you know?
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Then again, maybe I will just stay home...I just took a bath and got comfy on the couch and truly I think I will read the rest of the afternoon. The wind is HOWLING and even though it is warm, I don't feel like just riding around for the sake of it. I can look outside my window sitting on my couch, and save gas
I haven't even got to the point of thinking about reconstruction - I remember my BS recommended implants but don't know if that was just her opinion or what. I assume she will refer me to a PS in due time. I have lots of fat in lots of the right places though
Ok, back to my book...I watched Gia the other night on Lifetime so I got a copy of a biography of her life on Kindle "Thing of Beauty" - sad, sad story.
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Weather was beautiful and it was nice to get off my couch! Took my 80 year old mom on an outing to get her out of the house then sat on the patio and had a beer with my dad. Also went grocery shopping to stock up on my veggies and stuff. Overall a lovely Sunday! Hope everyone had a great day no matter what they did!
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I basically hung in all day. Moving slow mind you but I managed to get some laundry in, make a banana bread and dust. I swear after this week no more carbs! I'll induldge this week because its all I ever want the week after chemo but that's it.
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Indigo -- thank you
and great idea for a post-effing-cancer portrait!
LeftBoob and CAYH -- thank you. And I'm loving all your ideas for sore scalp -- wish I read them when I needed them!
kltb - yup. same thing! A favorite food ruined forever. In my case... not eating mac and cheese is probably ok... healthwise! I ordered wig liners from TLC too and its made it so I can wear wigs for extended periods. Letter to taco bell is hilarious!
onvacation --- exactly the same for me with halo -- ok for a few hours and then I was crawing out of my skin to tear it off. MY homemade halo, the hair is attached to the hat -- much more comfy than the headband halos.
Masserz -- I too, am a positive upbeat person by default. I can tell many here are -- it must help -- all this crap would be a lot more difficult for someone who, by nature, is more negative and dark. Some of my art lately has expressed the optimism, and some has landed smack in the middle of my worst moments. The dark moments/days are few... but they are so very hard.
Westwoodmom -- wow -- love your energy. I'm just doing TCx4 and its kicking my ass.... I don't know how you gals on ACx 4 - Tx4 are doing it! And YES -- according to a friend of mine who completed AC - T in January -- her hair started growing back during the T. I guess it must be the "C", Cytoxin causing the hair loss... IDK.
Leftboob -- I also researched all recon options extensively -- I'm not a candidate for TRAM or DIEP flaps -- and would consider the TUG -- but ONLY if the surgery were done at John Hopkins. I opted to make life easier and had a TE implant in during mastectomy in Jan.
Now -- I'm hoping the gummy implants will be available in the US before I'm ready for final implant. Otherwise -- going with silicone -- after much deliberation over saline vs. silicone.
One of the most surreal things about this whole experience -- is the decisions we need to make for ourselves regarding treatment options and reconstruction. Its crazy.
Anyone have gummy implants? How to they feel compared to the TE?
(PS I'm feeling inspired by all of you --- my next artwork will be a super hero based on this thread.... will share!)
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Shera - can't wait to see it!!!! Hugs!
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shera--I'll have to look up gummy implants. Never heard of them. I'm doing reconstruction on both sides, but the BC only on one side. Just don't want to go through biopsy after biopsy every 6 months which is likely with my lumpy breasts. Anyway, I'll have to reseach the saline vs. silicone. I'll get expanders first and then implants a few months later.
Wanted to share this website. It's where I got my halo that she calls a hair-lo as well as a sleep cap that's super comfy.
Have any of you gone out commando yet? I really want to, but am mustering up my courage.
And, I agree that chemo is probably harder than surgery, but of course I don't know that personally. I'll take that from you all and know that I'm doing the harder part first.
Rock on, sisters. I'm getting out of the house now to eat and run some errands (on my steriod high) because after Tx tomorrow, I"ll be housebound for several days, most likely.
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LynnM- what is the website with the hair-lo?
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Lynn... is the website Hats, Scarves, and More?
She has a "hair-lo" there. I ordered one that was way to blond for me... I sent it back and she purchased some new types which she says are thinner, and more comfy. I've given up on halos that are like headbands -- is the "hair'lo" comfy? How long can you wear it before needing to rip it off?
The gummy implants are only available in the U.S. through trials right now - but they are available to public in other countries. They are supposed to become available to public in the U.S. this month -- but my plastic surgeon said not to hold my breath -- they've been continually extending this for years now. Would be nice to have the option of an implant that was actually designed for someone without breast tissue... rather than the ones available now which were originally designed for breast-enhancements. Oh well...
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BTW -- hilarious video:
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Shera, can you wear the halo you made in multi hats or just one? Trying to think what i can do to mine so i can wear it more than an hour. I was thinking of adding eleastic to the band at the front because it feels so tight after an hour. I really thought I would luv my halo more than my wigs, and so far that isn't the case. I want something on the weekends when I run out to the store or shop when I don't fell like doing the wig thing.
Great video - amazing what some people say !
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I went on line to look for some more hair. I found a halo that looked super comfy! Problem is it is $200! YIKES, so obviously not doing that! I am now thinking of options for the one I already own! I have spent a lot of money on hair which I am ok with, but at one point you need to stop the madness! Wish I could wear the scarfs but I look ridiculous in them. Not sure why because I've seen a lot of women pull them off! I look ok in hats with brims, but needs some hair around the bottom or at least cover my scalp!
In the whole scope of things this seems so trivial, so I will deal and move on!
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Sorry foggy brain sydrome (FBS) on the website I had cut it and forgot to paste, oops!
http://www.hatsscarvesandmore.com/
I did order the longer hair-lo and while I haven't worn it much, the day I did it wasn't anywhere near as hurty as the wig I bought and NEVER wear. I did get the "new" one she was talking about, too. I'm going to have my stylist think out the back a bit, just because it's a bit too much for me. Funny how after you don't have hair it's weird to all of a sudden have this hair circling your neck.
Also, read Nikki's story on the hat, scarves website. She was super nice on the phone and told me if I didn't like the hair lo I could send it back and it was only $40.
Also, I usually wear the buffs like the ones from survivor. There's another website and there are so many other colors. I think I've bought about 6 of them. You can wear them a few different ways, too. I am kinda favoring the pirate style and my son and DH thinks they look the best on me. Son said yesterday it didn't look like I didn't have hair, just that I was hip while sporting the buff. You can also wear the buff under a hat for a pop of color. I never realized how much hair was an accessory. http://www.buffusa.com/collections/5?gclid=CNnlv97fya8CFQaFhwodf0uUag
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I apologize ladies for the longest copy/paste post ever but it's very funny and I am technologically retarded, still back in hospital on my iPhone, seemed on topic, somehow... All I could do. Enjoy!!>
10 things not to say to someone when they're ill
When I was diagnosed with cancer, the support of my friends was invaluable – but I also learned that there are 10 things you should never, ever say to someone when they're sick
'People really did feel the need to reassure me that my hideousness was plain to see.' Illustration: David McCoy for the Guardian
Deborah Orr
The Guardian, Wed 18 Apr 2012 14.45 BST
What no one ever tells you about serious illness is that it places you at the centre of a maelstrom of concerned attention from family and friends. Of course it does. That's one of the nice things. It's actually the only nice thing. But it's also a rather tricky challenge, at a time when you may feel – just slightly – that you have enough on your plate. Suddenly, on top of everything else, you are required to manage the emotional requirements of all those who are dear to you, and also, weirdly, one or two people who you don't see from one year to the next, but who suddenly decide that they really have to be at your bedside, doling out homilies, 24 hours a day. It's lovely to hear from people when you're ill. But it's also lovely when they add: "No need to reply." The biggest shock, when I was diagnosed with cancer the summer before last, was quickly observing that people can be quite competitive in their determination to "be there for you", and occasionally unable to hide their chagrin when some other chum has been awarded a particularly sensitive role at a particularly sensitive medical consultation. Nobody means to be intrusive or irritating. It's all done with the finest intentions. But, God, it's a pain. Yet by not saying 10 simple things, you too, can be the friend in need that you want to be.
1 "I feel so sorry for you"
It's amazing, the number of people who imagine that it feels just great to be the object of pity. Don't even say "I feel so sorry for you" with your eyes. One of my friends was just brilliant at mimicking the doleful-puppy-poor-you gaze, and when I had been subjected to a sustained bout of it, I used to crawl over to the local pub for lunch with him, just so that he could make me laugh by doing it. Don't say "I feel so sorry for you" with your hand either. When someone patted my thigh, or silently rested their paw on it, often employing the exasperating form of cranial communication known as "sidehead" at the same time, I actually wanted to deck them. Do say: "I so wish you didn't have to go through this ghastly time." That acknowledges that you are still a sentient being, an active participant in your own drama, not just, all of a sudden, A Helpless Victim.
2 "If anyone can beat this, it's you"
Funnily enough, it's not comforting to be told that you have to go into battle with your disease, like some kind of medieval knight on a romantic quest. Submitting to medical science, in the hope of a cure, is just that – a submission. The idea that illness is a character test, with recovery as a reward for the valiant, is glib to the point of insult. Do say: "My mum had this 20 years ago, and she's in Bengal now, travelling with an acrobatic circus." (Though not if that isn't true.)
3 "You're looking well"
One doesn't want to be told that one's privations are invisible to the naked eye. Anyway, one is never too ill to look in a mirror, and see a great big moon-face, bloated with steroids and sporting the bright red panda eyes that are triggered by that most aggressive and efficient of breast-cancer drugs, Docetaxel. I knew I looked like death warmed up, not least because I felt like death warmed up. Nobody wants to be patronised with ridiculous lies. They are embarrassing for both speaker and listener. If your sick pal wants to discuss her appearance, she'll ask you what you reckon. It'll be a leading question, so take your cue from her.
4 "You're looking terrible"
I know it sounds improbable. But people really did feel the need to reassure me that my hideousness was plain to see. One person told me that while I'd put on a lot of weight, I'd of course be able to go on a diet as soon as I was better. I wouldn't have minded quite so much, if she hadn't arrived bearing a giant mound of snacks and cakes, a great, indiscriminate pile of stuff that suggested she'd been awarded four minutes in Whole Foods by Dale Winton, in a nightmarish haute-bourgeois version of Supermarket Sweep. And, in fact, I haven't gone on a diet. Somehow, being a size 10 doesn't seem tremendously important any longer. On the other hand, when I said: "Don't I look monstrous?" I was asking people to help me to laugh at myself – which many did – and to tell me that this too would pass. One of my friends took photographs of me, behind a curtain in the hospital, looking comically interfered with by surgeons, and festooned with tubes and drains full of bloody fluid. We laughed so much that I probably came nearer to death right then than at any other point.
5 "Let me know the results"
Oddly, one doesn't particularly want to feel obliged to hit the social networks the moment one returns from long, complicated, stressful and invasive tests, which ultimately delivered news you simply didn't want to hear. Of course, this request is made because people are worried. But, a bit of worry is easier to bear than the process of coming to terms with news that confirms another round of debilitating, soul-crushing treatment. If people do want to talk about such matters, they really need to be allowed some control over when, how and to whom. Contacting their very nearest and dearest instead is fine, as is volunteering to spread the bad tidings to others who are also anxious.
6 "Whatever I can do to help"
Apart from anything else, it's boring. Everybody says it, even though your assumption tends to be that people do want to help, of course. That doesn't mean that help should not be offered. But "Can I pick the children up from school on Tuesdays?" or "Can I come round with a fish pie and a Mad Men box set?" is greatly preferable to: "Can I saddle you with the further responsibility of thinking up a task for me?" If you do happen to be on the receiving end of "whatever I can do to help", be shameless. Delegate with steely and ruthless intent.
7 "Oh, no, your worries are unfounded"
Especially when those worries are extremely founded indeed. Like a lot of women, when I was first diagnosed, I was disproportionately focused on the prospect of losing my hair. One friend, every time I tried to discuss this with her, would assert – baselessly – that this wasn't as likely to happen as it used to be. Actually, it's still very likely, and indeed it came to pass. But the crucial thing was this: I didn't want to talk about how pointless it was to be fearful. I wanted to talk about how sorely I dreaded the day when I was bald. When people want to talk about their fears, they want to talk about their fears, not to be told, quite blatantly, that their fears are imaginary. Even when they are imaginary, there are more subtle ways of offering assurance than blank rebuttal. Usually, an ill person brings something up because they feel a need to discuss it. Denying them that need is a bit brutal.
8 "What does chemotherapy [for example] feel like?"
It is staggering, the number of people who find it impossible to restrain their curiosity. Swaths of folk appear to imagine that exactly what you need, in your vulnerability, is a long and technical Q&A during which you furnish them with exhaustive detail pertaining to the most shit thing that's ever happened to your body in your life. If someone wants to talk about their procedures or their symptoms, they will. If you have to ask questions, that's prima facie evidence that this is not what they'd discuss, if only they could be gifted with just a smidgeon of control over the conversational initiative. Again, the golden rule is: take your lead from the person undergoing the experience. I tended to want my mind taken off all that stuff, and have a nice chat about nice things. One of my friends, asked by another what she had been up to lately, found herself saying she'd had a great time visiting Deborah in hospital after her mastectomy. It had indeed been a lively visit. Eight lovely people had turned up all at once, and it had been quite the rambunctious gathering. When she told me that it had been an absurd social highlight for her, I felt fantastically proud.
9 "I really must see you"
Don't say it, particularly, if you are then going to indulge in some long and complicated series of exchanges about your own busy life and the tremendous difficulty you have in finding an actual window, even though this appointment is so awfully important to you. At one point, I was sitting in a chemotherapy suite, large and painful cannula in the back of my hand, pecking out texts to somebody who had to sort something out this week, and wouldn't take "Let's do this later" for an answer. When I reluctantly picked a particular time from the list she had bossily pinged over, she replied that she'd have to bring her toddler son with her if it really had to be then. I knew I couldn't handle a tiny visitor (and wasn't sure about the ability of the tiny visitor to handle it either), so we then arranged something else. A few days later, at the very time of predicted childcare crisis, I saw a tweet from her, declaring that she was wearing a new cocktail dress and held up in traffic on her way to a long-anticipated and very glamorous do. She had clearly just buggered up her dates and didn't want to say: "Whoops. Actually, I'll be at a PA-A-ARDEEEEE." Fair enough. Sweet, really. Nevertheless, the planning thing is an arse. I liked it when people just said, "Can I come by after work this evening?" or, even better, "I've got tickets to the theatre on the 25th. Tell me on the day if you can face it."
10 "I'm so terribly upset about your condition"
One friend, when I told her the initial news, blurted out: "I can't cope without you!" and unleashed a flood of tears. (I hadn't sobbed myself at that point. I never did.) Ages later, when she emerged from the loo at the pub I had designated as Telling People HQ, she explained that she'd been caterwauling unrestrainedly when a kind lady asked her what was wrong. Having sketched out her troubles, she got this reply, or something like it: "What? You're weeping in the lavatory, while your friend is in the bar having breast cancer? Pull yourself together, and get out there." This had inspired another torrent of waterworks. And that is the most important thing to remember, when your friend is facing a frightening and possibly fatal illness: it's not, not, not about you. If you're too upset to be in a position to comfort your friend, send cards, send flowers, send presents. But don't send your ailing chum a passionate storm of your own wild grief, personally delivered. It's a little too needy, under the circs.
If you recognise things that you have said or done yourself within this list, don't feel bad about it, at all. I most certainly have, and I've said and done much, much worse too; it took being on the receiving end before I realised what it could feel like. The thing is this: giant illness is a time of great intensity, and even the most cack-handed expressions of support or love are better than a smack in the face with a wet tea-towel. People feel helpless when they see that their friend is suffering. Sometimes – often – they say the wrong thing. But they are there, doing the best that they can, at a terrible, abject time. That's the most important thing of all. I look back on those grisly moments of ineptitude and clumsiness with exasperated amusement and tender, despairing, deep, deep fondness. The great lesson I learned from having cancer, was how splendid my friends were, whatever their odd little longueurs. They all, in their different ways, let me know that they loved me, and that is the most helpful thing of all. I'm so lucky to have them. -
KCB -- BRAVO to your post!
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KCB
Loved it!
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RE: Hair/Wigs/Halos - I have my halo all packed up and ready to send back to tlcdirect. It was only $28 but I know I am not going to wear it so might as well get the money back.
I am looking at my freebie wig and wondering if I can just make some hair pieces from it??? I know you can just buy the "velcro in" bang piece and you can also get the little sideburn/hair wisps for beside your ears. But if my Barbie hair cutting history serves as accurate record, I don't know if I should attempt it. I would think you would have to sew it onto strips of velcro and I would probably wind up looking ridiculous.
Kim - I think the reason that scarves look so goony on me is that there is nothing up there and they are all flat on my head - they sell padded liners but one could be made easily. The only way I wear a scarf is with a hat in a coordinating color on top of it. Otherwise, I look like I am going as a gypsy for Halloween.
Lynn - how is your halo/hairlo designed? So I guess it doesn't have the tight elastic band ?
Shera - gummy implants...I am intrigued...going to check out the video link if my internet will stay up for more than 5 minutes at a time.
KCB - you're in the hospital again??
booo...
Thanks for sharing; I read in in a British accent (in my head) which made it even better. I especially appreciate #6; I have lost count of the people who say "if there is anything I can do....
....although if someone brought me a fish pie, I would have to decine.
In a bit of a funk - stupid argument with DH over him forgetting or not knowing (so he claimed) to use a coupon getting our dinner tonight. It was "just" $10 but that to me is equivalent to tearing up a $10 bill and throwing it in the trash. It then morphed into just a ridiculous mess...long story short, he is upset with me. I am the difficult one in our relationship anyway, I freely admit that. I am high strung, argumentative, he is really usually easy going but I guess he is just stressed to the max too. I need a drink. Or three.
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Loved the link Shera and I went to her website - seems like a cool chick; bookmarked it to go back and look at later. (www.jennysaldana.com)
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I have my last chemo on Tuesday..I have been told that I'll be on tamoxifen after that..
How soon will I start the Tamoxifen?
What happens now?
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