Any April/May 2012 rad girls out there?

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  • bethm
    bethm Member Posts: 45
    edited April 2012

    Hi Wiskris,  I use a deod. called Crystal sold by the deod. It is a salt based that has a seal of approval from the cancer group and has a pink ribbon in it. I work in a kitchen and I can vouch that it works. Hope this helps.

  • MizMarie
    MizMarie Member Posts: 332
    edited April 2012

    I use Tom's, which was on my clinic's "approved" list of deodorants.  I doesn't stop the sweat, but it does work to control the odor.

    When I was changing into a gown for my tx today, I was unpleasantly surprised to see how much my skin had reddened just from this morning.  It isn't particularly uncomfortable or painful, but I worry about such a rapid change and how my skin will hold up for another 2+ weeks.

  • Mariebee
    Mariebee Member Posts: 11
    edited April 2012

    Hi all- I want to join in.  Started rads on April 9th.  I will have 28 sessions.

    I'm in a clinical trial (exercise for cancer patients)- hoping to limit my fatigue.  I get to do lots of walking, working with many different resistance band exercises and filling out daily forms.

    Skin (I have very sensitive skin) is starting to turn red (after 7 sessions).

    I have noticed a small  and occasional cough, which they talked about- so I'm assuming this is related to the rads impacting/scaring my lungs. 

    I hate it.  The treatment is ok, but the people- I'm not a fan.  I find the techs insensitive and we get pulled through the process like cattle.  They snap their fingers at me- they tell me that Tom's isn't deordorant (hmm..well the branding says it's deodorant).  Since my treatments are at 11:45 they make me feel like I'm ruining their lunch.  I've seen/dealt with 6-8 different techs, as there are 3 of them with me each session.  I asked if any of them have even sat under this thing (the machine) and only 1 has! 

    I'm not a shy person- and not easily intimidated, but I'm not going to give the doctor my feedback until the end of the sessions.  I don't want these people who are aiming rads at me to dislike me any more than they do.  For my 1st treatment, 3 people stuck me under the machine and then 3 totally new people came in to retrieve me.  I'm kind of ok with that, but for my first treatment I found that odd and insensitive.  So everyday I annoyingly tease them about getting to lunch and then soon the secretary's/admins are going to be the ones taking me out since they'll (the techs) be at lunch.

    The treatment, mostly because of the people, makes me anxious.  So I want to join this thread, just to vent and share.  Thank you all for the opportunity.

     Best of luck to all!

  • Joanne_53
    Joanne_53 Member Posts: 1,477
    edited April 2012

    I am using Arm and Hammer but I don't find it works to control odor -- I was using Tom's of Maine and it also has a no Aluminium deodorant and it did work but so switching back.  Someone in another thread talked about Cocoanut oil being used to control odor also.

    Updated -- had brands reversed to corrected.

  • mamglam
    mamglam Member Posts: 178
    edited April 2012

    I had my 9th treatment today - my skin is a little itcy and tender to touch.  The saline soaks are helpful and I have been doing them 2-3 times a day.  Joanne_53, I was told by my center not to use coconut oil because it has tendency of acting like a suntan lotion and one does not want a suntan from Rads.  I hope all is well with all of you ladies going through Radiation Therapy.

  • bchygrl
    bchygrl Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2012

    Hi All, It's really great to hear from everyone and the different symptoms. This was day 2 for me, and I was also kind of surprised that 33 were prescribed since my cancer was small and in situ. I only want to do this one time though, so keeping my fingers crossed.

    I'm all weepy and sad most of the day and feel guilty for feeling that way. And, I already feel tired.   I'm single and it really is comforting to hear from so many different folks. People don't know what to say to me and frankly, I don't know what to say to them. It helps to talk to those that have or have had cancer. I couldn't say the word cancer for two weeks after being diagnosed!

    I, too, was told to use Crystal deodorant, but haven't tried it out yet. Bought it today at a local health food store.

    Does anyone use a prescribed cream that is working? A friend told me she used it throughout her treatments (several times/day) and had no burning or itchy skin.

    Yesterday I had BRCA testing done. Praying it's negative.

  • Maghery721
    Maghery721 Member Posts: 68
    edited April 2012

    Welcome Mariebe, I'm sorry to hear of how you are being treated by the techs. This is a very difficult thing we are all going through and we need all the compassion we can get. The only thing that may play into the lunch thing (and I'm in no way defending the techs' behavior) but at my rad place, I know that the techs must take lunch from 12-1 because the rad machines are taken over by the physicists to be used/worked on. Not sure if that has anything to do with it at your place but thought i would mention it. I do hope you make a point to complain to the oncologist.

  • Joanne_53
    Joanne_53 Member Posts: 1,477
    edited April 2012

    mamglam - what is the purpose of the saline soaks -- my skin is ok -- I am having "pricking" under the skin at the lumpectomy incision -- will that help that?

  • Sandyland
    Sandyland Member Posts: 262
    edited April 2012

    Mariebee ~ Welcome!  Wow, that is totally crappy that the techs treat you that way.  If it were me, I'd make sure my doctor knew about it right away.  I hate that you feel you have to suffer through the rest of your treatments feeling like your presence is a burden to them.  For crying out loud ~ this is their job and you are the patient!  Can you ask him not to mention your name or the "lunch time" thing, but just say that he has gotten complaints from patients feeling rushed and that they are being insensitive?  I know you've got to do what is best for you, I'm just outraged on your behalf :)

    Has anyone else heard of rads going for 36 treatments?  Once again, I am amazed at how incredibly aggressive my team is being with me.  Considering that I was only stage 2b and had no nodes, I can't believe the treatments I have received; TAC chemo & 36 rads (plus bolus).  I guess it is the size of my tumor and my crummy margins. 

    After completing tx #16 today, my skin is really red and sore.  I mentioned it to my tech (George) and he said, "Sandy, this is nothing...by week six you won't even be talking to me."  I assured him that in fact I would be talking to him...he just might not like the language I will be using =]

    SAN

  • mamglam
    mamglam Member Posts: 178
    edited April 2012

    Joanne_53,

    Glad to hear your skin is ok - mine appears to be as well.  I do have "electric shock" like feeling on my breast and is really an uncomfortable feeling.  The saline soaks are helping with this uncomfortable feeling.

  • MOT
    MOT Member Posts: 130
    edited April 2012

    Welcome to all the newbies on the board! I feel like an old timer and I haven't even started rads yet -- will start April 25th for 30 treatments.

    apelila -- I also have a small tumor (3mm), no node involvement, and a small breast (now even smaller since the BS took out that walnut! When he first said "walnut-sized", I thought no problem. Then when I looked in the mirror and imagined a walnut, I thought holy cow! And that was my smaller breast to begin with....) so I thought 30 treatments was alot, but as we know, you only get to try this once. I really do like and trust my RO.

    mariebee -- Sorry to hear the techs are so heartless. But I think you have to be the bigger person in this case and you have to let it go. We are going through so much, we can't afford to be consumed with anger or spite. We need to be stressless and go with the flow. Perhaps if you joke around with them, they will see you are a PERSON. Or not. I'm just saying that the only thing we can control is our reaction to situations and sometimes that can actually change the situation! Also know what goes around, comes around....ok, so much for spite...

    Moderators -- Thanks for the links to skin care and such. I will check it out.

    re: fatigue and bad attitude -- oh boy, I'll be working the whole time, so I hope I can avoid these! Someone mentioned exercise throughout rads and I'm going to try that. And yoga.

    re: soy -- I was drinkin alot of soy milk since I thought it lessened menopause symptoms for me, but my MO said to limit it to one glass/day. She said the Japanese people eat alot of soy and their breast cancer rate is very low. But I think I will change to almond milk since I am ER+

    It's Friday everyone! Have a good day!

  • Nicavero
    Nicavero Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2012

    Hi started April 11, need 33 rounds.  Good luck with your therapy, we can only pray and hope for the best.  Are there any suggestions to alleviate dark spots during radiation therapy? 

  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 1,194
    edited April 2012

    Maribee, so sorry you are having problems with your rad techs.   My kids are great.  None of them can be much over 30 (in other words, young enough to be my kids) Not a day goes by that they don't ask how I'm doing, how work is going, am I getting my rest and using my cream?  It does make things so much more bearable... {hugs}

     

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited April 2012

    Sandyland - The Grade 3 on your DX line is a big clue to the aggressive tx you're getting.  Even a pretty small tumor Grade 3 gets aggressive tx.  Also other things like microlymph and microvessel invasion might warrant more aggressive tx. 

    Mariebee - OMG.  I would absolutely freak out.  I get the same tech except on Mondays and then I get 3 for remeasuring.  Though I did get a trainee male from South Texas.  My onco group is statewide and don't really know why he came up here.  It was OK with me.  He was nice enough.  Maybe not so much to do down there - need more variety up here and see different situations.  Who knows?

    Welcome everyone who has migrated over here to this board.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    9 down 24 to go!!  Have any of you ladies felt nauseas after treatment? Or after you eat??

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited April 2012

    Lory - I had a touch of nausea this am but my job is also stressing me out big time.  After tx it's jump in the car and start working.  You're on the same schedule as me with 9 down and 24 left.  Hooray for May 23.

  • rcpoynor
    rcpoynor Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2012

    Claire, I started my radiation treatment on Sunday April 1, 2012.  I have 3 wonderful Doctors assisting me.  I understand being worried and I have gone through the same thing.  I have a wonderful support group at work and home I can lean on.  I keep telling my self to keep a positive attitude and sometime I tell my self that several times a day. I know how you feel and will keep you in my prayers.  Cathy

  • Nicavero
    Nicavero Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2012

    Hi Lory - I also suffer from nausea during tx.  Had my 5th tx today, last night felt a lump and swelling  to the lymph node surgical site, told my rad oncologist he sent me for an ultrasound today (very scared), radiologist thinks it is fluid collection, guardedly optimistic.  Good luck

  • linnyhopp
    linnyhopp Member Posts: 567
    edited April 2012

    Hi Everyone ~ Sounds like most of us have the same anxieties and fears about radiation.  I know I am very worried about the skin issues, but since I am triple positive and was told I would have radiation even if I had done a mastectomy instead of a lumpectomy I am trying to accept what is happening and hoping and praying I can tolerate the probable skin issues.  It does not sound like a fun way to spend the next 6 weeks.  I had my 3rd treatment of 33 today and am glad I will have the weekend off after tomorrow's blast.  I keep trying to be positive like the rest of you.  I tell myself if I could make it through chemo I can do this, too. 

    SAN ~ Thanks for calling me today.  I will talk to George as you get closer to your finish date.  You are the best!  George told me I won't be liking him soon either.  You are right about the language.  I think I could really shock him if it gets too bad.Yell

    Anyone using MiaDerm and having decent results? I hope so as that is what I am using. I was told by George (SAN's & my tech) to only use one product at a time, but to use it at least 3 times a day.  I called the company and they said the same thing. Hopefully, it will protect the skin as much as possible.

    As I mentioned in an earlier post, I already feel even MORE fatigued. I go directly to work after treatment (morning time) and maybe that's better as I can't give in to my desire to take a nap! I did plenty of that during chemo. However, all bets are off for Saturday morning...I plan on not setting any alarms...who knows maybe I will sleep until noon!  Wishing you all good skin and lots of energy every day of your treatments. Take care...Linda

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited April 2012

    Hi All

    Had my pre chemo bloodwork done today and my normal meeting with the MO.  My regular MO was off today so I saw the Sr MO at my cancer centre.  He was totally surprised RADS were being recommended by my RO with my pathology!  I've also done lots of research and am having alot of difficutly finding it indicated with my pathology. Tumor size, really clean margins, no nodes, location of the tumor, MX.  He agreed with me that the benefits do not outweigh the risks.

    I am still keeping my meeting on the 26th with the RO.  For all I know she will tell me that she presented to the tumour board and RADS isn't indicated.  At the end of the day its off the table for me right now.

    Please don't take this as I don't think anyone should do RADS but nothing would be further from the truth.  Its so dependant on each case and pathology.

    I hope you all have an easy time of this part of your TX with minimal SE's.  I thank you for all of  your input, its really appreciated.

  • linnyhopp
    linnyhopp Member Posts: 567
    edited April 2012

    Myleftboob ~ I totally understand and if you don't have to have the rads, I know we will all be happy for you.  None of us want to do treatment unless it is truly necessary.  Good luck at your next appointment and glad you are getting the second opinion so you can make the best decision for you. Linda

  • bethm
    bethm Member Posts: 45
    edited April 2012

    I am having 35 treatments and my tumor was only 1.5 cm. My MO just wants to play it safe, I'm ok with that. Today is my 15and my breast is only alittle red, my nipple however is very red and sensitive. Don't know how it will do for 20 more. Hope everyone has a great weekend!

  • Janet_M
    Janet_M Member Posts: 1,068
    edited April 2012

    Good Morning Rad Girls,

    Does anyone have itching on the non-radiated side? Day #8 for me, and all is well. Using lots of gooey aloe gel, and I've cut the under wire out of my uglier bras. But I'm slightly itchy on both sides. Don't know if this is normal, or if this is an empathy itch.

    Also - I lost a toenail! I know this is a delayed side effect of chemo, and not a big deal, but it made me really sad. I've managed to stay stoic for the big stuff, but these little things really turn me into a puddle. (Maybe new shoes will make me feel better)

    Mariebee - Shame on your little technicians. The last thing anybody needs is to have some insensitive techies adding to their anxiety. Maybe you should bring them some lunchboxes so they're not so eager to run out the door. 

    I only have two kids looking after me, and they're with me from start to finish. They're lovely. The worst thing that happened was that they put on on a CD that started to skip, and I was so distracted I could barely lie still. Funny how different things are from place to place. 

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited April 2012

    Im using miaderm exclusivly. So far so good 9 more to go of 25. My techs and nurses are the best. Feels like that pec muscle over the TE wants to clamp down. Have to stretch the arm out a lot

  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 1,194
    edited April 2012

    I'm a bit bummed as I met with the RO yesterday... He has reduced my "dose" of radiation so I'm doing 33 treatment rather than "just" the 30.  He thinks it will reduce the skin issues.  Sigh. So 9 down and 24 to go.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    Dear all,

    Well...I said I wouldn't count off my 33 tx until I got close to the end but at least I have a week down, now.  Too many posts to respond individually...this will be a collective message ha ha.

    I support fred's post on eating right. I've been eating that way for years w/the exception of no meat except the occasional wild fish. If you want a look at the failure of our food system in the US to give us truly healthy and safe food, watch the documentary Food Inc. I just showed it to my college students yesterday.

    I found out that I think part of my tiredness was from the half tablet of unisom I was taking at night to sleep!  God, what a hangover I had every day w/o the fun of the night before!  I can't take advil pm b/c of tamoxifen (benedryl interferes with tamox effectiveness) so switched to unisom...yikes, I think it even gave me night sweats when combined with tamox!  I slept fine last night w/o it, and feel awake and alert today.  So no more unisom for me. I still don't have much of an appetite, though, and  a little fatigue. 

    My boob looked a little red last night but I may have imagined that.  Other than that, I'm soldiering through rads. Freaking tedious more than anything. I found out that scatter rads might harm my thyroid...so I'll have to have my TSH levels checked post rads since I'm already on thyroid meds (for years).  Great. One more thing to monitor.

    My main tech is kind of snotty--I joked that they had an assembly line of sorts for tx, and she got a little huffy and said "no, we talk to our patients afterward if they need it".  I was trying to bring some levity into a scary situation for me. Won't try that again. 

    She asked me what I was doing this weekend and I told her that I really wasn't making any plans till tx were over in May...she said that I wouldn't start feeling tired till closer to the end of rads.  I said I felt tired NOW...she looked surprised! (gosh, do you think it might be from 5 months of chemo, starting a new drug regimen (tamox), or just general weariness since I've lived with the worry of BC since Sept?) 

    I have to cancel one tx in May too, and she said that it was okay, they'd add that on at the end, but not to be "a habitual misser".  Did I say that I planned on missing a bunch of tx? It's just one as I have to be out of town for a faculty workshop.  Geez!

    I'm using aquaphor and Xclair together for pre-emptive care.   I don't see Xclair mentioned here. Anyone using it?  Did you use it and tried something better instead?

    XO

    Claire

  • Michbunny
    Michbunny Member Posts: 91
    edited April 2012

    Janet_M, my non-treated breast is also flaky and dry.  I'm blaming it on lying prone on industrial-washed sheets.  I'm guessing that the detergent that's used isn't hypo-allergenic or for sensitive skin (dye-free, color-free).

    I hope everyone is coping with your treatments and that you get to relax over the weekend!

  • apelila
    apelila Member Posts: 8
    edited April 2012

    Claire:  OMG I asked the techs about a thyroid collar before I started since I'm having a horrible time with hashimotos and didn't want to make it worse...they laughed at me and said two things:

    the radiation is NOT going anywhere near your thyroid...just your breast and even if it did go near the thyroid...a collar wouldn't help.  They were pretty much laughing at me.

    Yesterday I asked the doc if the radiation could have "re activated" some asthma issues that were dormat for the past uh 30 years...she said no...radiation couldn't get to the lungs.

    I can't decide if she is a liar or just ignorant...either way doesn't make me feel very confident with them.  I also asked how much my numbers of cancer growing back increase if I stop now after 12 treatments...she said exactly the same as if I'd had none...85%.  Really so these 12 that have literally kicked my butt have been of no use?!  Does this make sense to anyone?

    Thanks for the welcomes everyone!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    apelia,

    I'm getting clavicle rads since I had node involvement; that's why my thyroid might be affected.  I hope not!

    Claire

  • Gayle56
    Gayle56 Member Posts: 277
    edited April 2012

    I went for my simulation today.  Uneventful except that when I laid down on the table my vertigo kicked in and I was spinning.  She said she couldn't raise my head any higher because everything was all set from last week so if I keep my head turned to the right the spinning stops.  I start on Monday and didn't get really any special instructions, just a printout with some dos and donts.  She said I will meet with the nurse next week.  They were a bit annoyed that I needed a late in the day appointment but they will have to get over it.  The facility is only open until 4:30.   I would think most people work so I don't understand why they don't have evening hours.   I have computer issues so I have been reading most messages on my nook but it is a pain to write a long response on that.  Hopefully that issue will be resolved on Sunday when the guy comes to look at my computer.

    Gayle

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