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  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited April 2012

    Doula- mine was very different. Biopsy and all the tests including mri showed a 8mm IDC the path report was 10 pages with IDC, ILC, DCIS, and LCIS. Mine isn't common though, so don't let it scare you. My surgeon said I have shit for luck. I went from stage one to 3a with 12 positive nodes. All of it sucks no matter what kind you have.

    Mardibra-I will pm you later.

    Ndroby- My surgeon took mine out when they were under 35 cc's. I feel for you. It is so nice to get rid of them. I have had a lot of tingling in my breast skin today. I am hoping that the nerves are healing and I will get feeling back. It was weird to take a shower and not feel it when you wash or when the water hits them.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    Dianarose, OMG.  Your poor BF!  I don't know if you saw on our March mastectomy thread, but LOL, my sister came to stay with us for a few days after my surgery, and when DH went to show her how to strip my drains - she fainted too - *and* gashed her elbow when she fell, and had to get four stitches!!!  Tell your BF she's actually a warrior herself so I guess it happens to the best of them!

    Hugs to you this p.m.  

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012
    Doula- I had a breast MRI about 10 days before my UMX (left) surgery + sentinal node biopsy..  MRI noted 3 suspicious masses plus a suspicious left node   It turned out that 2 of the 3 suspcious masses were very small DCIS and 1 of the 3 was a fibroadenoma.  The 5 nodes that were taken which included the suspicious one was clear. Apparently all of the suspicious areas examined during the surgery because the BS surgeon told my husband when the surgery was over what he had found and the next day while I was still in the hospital recovering, my BS came by and explained how the surgery went and what was found.  I'd say I was very very fortunate that all of the suspicious areas were invasive cancers.  Hope this helps you!!!
  • VeganGal
    VeganGal Member Posts: 154
    edited April 2012

    Ladies my Ladies . . . I'm so super behind on reading your posts.

    We buried my Mother in law. It was so sad and so beautiful and so sad. For all of us BC women, she had BC about 50 years ago . . . and she personified "survivor". Had a BMX back then, and lived many many more years.

    I had my pre-op . . . and the hard core countdown begins. One week today. I am only so very sorry that my MIL won't see me come through this . . . because I WILL COME THROUGH THIS WITH FLYING BLOODY COLOURS!!!!!

    Hugs ladies . . . and I'm gonna try to catch up on all your posts now:-)

  • ppeople
    ppeople Member Posts: 207
    edited April 2012

    Hey Guys! I'm done and feeling fine!
    I wish the same for all waiting and for Jayme and Kimmy.
    (had bmw and TE)
    High as a kite on pain meds and valium, but really does control pain
    No nausea or vomiting
    Private room!
    Ate tuna sandwhich, had tea and chillin'
    I wish I knew this before, the waiting is sooooo much worse.
    Love to all and thanks for support all along the way!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    Hi plymouthpeople! Good to hear from you! You are so right - the waiting is worst. Gentle hugs to you!

  • longislandmom
    longislandmom Member Posts: 248
    edited April 2012

    OMG Plymouth...soo amazing to hear from you. you sound so great.  so happy for you.  and your message comes at such a good time for me... I am such a wreck today.  just took my 10 year old daughter out to dinner and a movie (bad mommy on a school night before state tests-- but i promised).  i cried to myself during parts of the movie.  first time in so long.  i am just so stressed again after a month hiatus of feeling good.  4 more days before Monday surgery. i'm starting to panic.  ugh... i wish someone would club me over the head and wake me up when this is all over!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    VeganGal, so sorry for your loss. Peace and comfort to you and your DH and family.



    Love the battle cry! I'm sure your MIL can hear it too.



    Hugs to you!

  • colombiana
    colombiana Member Posts: 10
    edited April 2012

    to Plymouthpeople

    So happy to hear that you are feeling good!!!!. 

    I really love all my new "HERMANAS" (SISTERs) POST.  Your strenght, dignity, willingness to help each other  during this hard time is so wonderful to see and be part  of.

    I have a question I'm from Colombian and I been trying to start a blog in Spanish to help others Hispanics women that are dealing with cancer  and I don't know how to do it .

    Any suggestions.

    Good luck every one that is having surgery soon!!

  • ppeople
    ppeople Member Posts: 207
    edited April 2012

    longisland,

    I promise you'll be fine

    I even had a reaction to first antibiotic  they tried today, redman syndrome, and everything still went fine.

    i wish er all could skip the  waiting

  • ndroby
    ndroby Member Posts: 104
    edited April 2012

    BAd news,

    I have pus at one of my drain sites. More antibiotics. I hope I don't lose the TEs. :(

  • ppeople
    ppeople Member Posts: 207
    edited April 2012

    oh, no, ndroby.  but maybe all not lost, i have heard of people recovering and saving TE's  with antibiotic tx.  Do you want to have an infectious disease consult?  I have an ID on board because I have a hx of MRSA and he is more on top of those microbes than the surgeons.

    In the meantime, I'll pray for you.

    Hugs and antibodies for you.

  • Zarasbaba
    Zarasbaba Member Posts: 103
    edited April 2012

    Ndroby...



    I came home with six drains, two at each breast and two at each side of my tummy,

    I had a BIMX with DIEP flap recon on April 11.....

    I haven't had a pain free day, since ,I'm not letting it get me down, this is only the first step,

    Since I will be starting chemo and rads in the next few weeks

    Three of my Lympe node s was positive bummers, I say



    But it will not get me down, I feel so blessed I found the nasty cancer when I did, because a fifty five year old woman, who was my DH cousin had died to breast cancer,when they found that she had breast cancer it was already and stage four, and mats to her brain,and other organs.



    I give God thanks I found it when I did and I can move on to the next step, as I'm posting this, I was awaken with very bad pain in my breast,



    I wish all the ladies here all the best with there fright with this nasty cancer!!!



    Lots of warm hugs, meaning full prayers , and always positive thoughts to everyone going though this!!!

  • aussie12
    aussie12 Member Posts: 462
    edited April 2012

    Hi all

    The silver chain nurse came today and said my stitches and drain look good and will probably get the drain out early,good news. I am having trouble sleeping as I just can't get comfortable and going to toilet quite a bit.

    Dianarose, sorry to hear about your results, I've still got mine to go.

    Yes I'm like everyone else, getting lots of food from everyone, lucky my 2 sisters work in a supermarket, lots of vegies and meat!!!! 

    I was sick from the anasthethic they gave me, not very nice.

  • lisamarie68
    lisamarie68 Member Posts: 1,235
    edited April 2012

    wow plymouth so glad to hear u are back on the othher side , I am here like Longisland Mom  .. only 4 more days to go and feeling sick to my stomach , weepy, headaches, anxious , just feel crazy ... so much to do .. one more work day saturday , then pack a bag , nucelear med on Monday ,pick mom up at airport monday night , and tuesday ugh surgery day ... and BS said i can only have one valium for day before to sleep .. she doesnt want me to have naything day of due to anesthsia .. :0 

    Ndroby ... sorry about the drain infection , hope all will be well sending you Hugs xoxox

    Gabsbaba, sorry to hear about the pos nodes , but We are storng together and we are here to support each other through the whole process not just surgery .. so know we love u and Big Hugs to you ...

    Aussie .. sounds like you are doing well .. sorry about the sleep , I really hope my loveseat recliner helps me .. :(

    Sony, I am so worried about you , I hope u are resting well ... I miss you friend .. sending u Big Warm Hugs ..xoxoxo

    DianaRose,  girl i hope you are feeling better now , DRains out and all , I know u have some shit to look foward to but as I said above we are all here to help each other through all of this BIg Nasty Cancer thing .. so Big Hugs and LOts of Love to you ... xoxooxox

    If I missed anyone I am so sorry my mind is nuts ..so Hugs to all

    Columbia , I am not sure how to do that , but I think therre is a place that states to start a new topic try that , or ask the moderators here they can help im sure .. Hugs  

  • lisamarie68
    lisamarie68 Member Posts: 1,235
    edited April 2012

    Oops also didnt mention my DD turned 25 on the 16th of April and today I finally get to give her lunch and a birthday gift as we both work and so much going on .. :) cant wait ti see her

  • keonghi
    keonghi Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2012

    So glad to see so many on the other side now.  I agree, the waiting was worse than the actual surgery and recovery.  Now I am just waiting for the final pathology and all the results of others are starting to worry me.  The only thing causing me any trouble right now is the swelling around the tubes.  I call it my side boobs cuz the swelling is bigger than my breasts are right now.  I wish you all who are still waiting, peace.  All those on the other side, may you have an easy recovery.  (((Hugs))) to all!

  • Raelan
    Raelan Member Posts: 200
    edited April 2012

    Hi Ladies - It's been about a week or so since I posted because I've been hanging out on the stage 2 and April/May chemo boards.  As I previously noted, during my BMX surgery my BS took out 2 SNB's and both appeared to be clear.  When I got my pathogology report back last week, they indicated one of them had 2.2mm cells (less than 2mm is under the "legal limit") and there was evidence of LVI.  So, I went from chemo being a question mark (would depend on my oncotypeDX test), to being a guarantee.  Now we are in the process of deciding whether or not I need to go in for additional surgery to remove the remaining lymph nodes, or if we'll just tack on radiation at the end of chemo.  Have a second opinion scheduled with a multi-disciplinary team from a different facility than the one I've been getting my treatment from next Tuesday.

    The shock of the pathology news has worn off, and now I'm just getting used to the idea that I'll be losing my hair and feeling pretty lousy for most of this summer.  I did not have TE's put in during my surgery, so now have plenty of time to research reconstruction options post chemo treatment.  

    I have to say, my recovery from my BMX has been pretty easy.  I've been walking for 30 minutes every day, and for the  most part feel pretty good.  Still some discomfort and tenderness around the chest and armpit area (particularily where the tubes came out), but otherwise I feel pretty good.

    Glad to hear you are all recovering well.  

        

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited April 2012
    Raelan - do some research. As I understand it, taking additional nodes does not help increase positive outcomes. (or so my BS told me) Definitely worth looking into, just so you can hopefully avoid additional surgery and lymphedema risk as much as possible.
  • Raelan
    Raelan Member Posts: 200
    edited April 2012

    CookieMonster - Agreed.  I've been told that the outcome by taking out additional nodes vs. radiation is the same (in terms of reducing risk of recurrence).  In fact, with LMX patients, they never go back in and take out additional nodes since they know radiation will always be done.  The difference in my case is it will impact my reconstruction options. Whereas I was planning on getting implants, now I will need to look into other options, such as a DIEP, etc.  The problem with a DIEP is I don't have enough fat in my abdomen (I know, the one time it would pay to be overweight) to do both breasts.  So, I'll probably be making some calls to NOLA to get more info on what those amazing surgeons can do in the way of taking additional tissue from other areas to be able to do both breasts.  Basically, my original plans (i.e. BMX followed by implants) was pretty much shot of the water with this turn of events and now I'm have to readjust the plan and decide on different options.....feel like I'm on "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride" sometimes.

     

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited April 2012

    Raelan - it is a crazy ride, isn't it?

    So you'll either need to remove the nodes or radiate them? Does chemo theoretically kill the cancer cells in the nodes? They want rads and chemo on the nodes? Forgive me if I'm getting too personal, I'm just curious (and not trying to be critical at all, just wondering)- I've been lucky enough to avoid rads and chemo so far.

    Were you told that you can't do implants after radiation? I've heard that it CAN be done, but isn't always successful. Definitely talk to mulitple docs. I've heard the same thing about DIEP, one doc will say there's not enough fat but another will say it'll be fine. Hopefully you can find something that will work for you. It's a tough road to go down and when curves keep getting thrown at us, it just gets tougher. Hang in there.

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited April 2012

    I had radiation 7 yrs ago on the left breast and 1 PS told me there was nothing that could be done on that side. I found a different PS and  I had my bmx with TE's and that side looks better than the none radiated side. I think it depends on the doc's experience.

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited April 2012

    Regarding radiation and DIEP, my PS wont do a DIEP on me until 6 months after radiation is complete and would not do it at the time of MX.  Differing doctors, differing opinions?  Who knows.

    Raelan - so sorry about the nodes.  I did chemo before my MX and really, it wasnt that bad.  Certainly not as bad as what you may think.  Im happy to answer any questions you may have. 

  • Raelan
    Raelan Member Posts: 200
    edited April 2012

    Thanks everyone for your input.  It's is really interesting the different approaches PS's will take. The PS I've been consulting with is known as one of the best in the large metropolitan area I live in so I do have a lot of faith in what he's telling me.  He's seen a lot of failed implants post radiation, in fact, very often he's the one patients will come to to "clean up the mess" after their initial PS dropped the ball, so he's pretty anti-radiation/implant.  However, I do know there are other options outside of a DIEP, such as a latimuss flap with an implant, so I'm not completely hosed.  At this point I'm just trying to figure out what all my options are so if I do opt for the radiation approach I feel good about it and about how I'll look/feel after all is said and done.

    I just really hate the fact I even have to consider radiation since I felt I did everything to prevent having to go down that path.  However, lymphedema is a big concern with additional lymph node removal and not something to be taken lightly.  Sometimes I think we'd be better off just flipping a coin when being asked to make these kinds of decisions.   

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited April 2012

    So im told, the risk of lymphedema is not bad when the take out less than 12 nodes.  In my case they took 10 and I have not had any signs of LE at this point but, again, who knows.  It can creep up any any time.

  • ppeople
    ppeople Member Posts: 207
    edited April 2012

    raelan, so sorry you are having more difficult choices to make.  I think that is one of the toughest parts of this whole process. On some level, I think it is our gut feeling that is the best guide when given more than one medically sound choice.  Which one do you feel you can live with best. 

  • GmaNiki
    GmaNiki Member Posts: 42
    edited April 2012

    Dianarose, so sorry about your path report, but you and our team have a plan.

    I had my first MO visit yesterday. I did not pick the doctor because I didnt know one, but I didnt get a lucky draw on this one. I dont think I like her. It was the first visit and she is still waiting for the Oncotype DX to come back before she/we decide on the treatment plan. I am sure she is a fine doctor but her personality and mine do not mesh, I will go back one more time to see her before I decide if I need to change. But I feel that I really need to like the doctor who will have control of my health for the next 5 years.

    Have been feeling pretty good, so yesterday I did a bit of housework and walked a lot more than usual. Woke up at 1 am in a pool of drainage fluid. My drains were removed last Friday and everything seemed to be fine. I got up, changed the dressing ( and jammies) but it continued to drain and make a mess. Changed the dressing 5 times before 3 am, then just switched to using a wash cloth. Called the PS office when they opened and the PA said not to worry about it overmuch, I was just too active and the fluid has to get out. She said to watch the opening for signs of irritation of infection and call her again tomorrow morning to update her. So today (3 weeks out today) I have been a couch potato and took a 2 hour nap. Still draining quite a lot, have gone through 2 wash cloths throughout the day.

    My biggest concern is my lack of appetite. I thought I would get over it when I saw the MO but no luck. Now I am overweight and not wasting away, but when I came home from the hospital I was down 7 lbs from when I went in, and in the two weeks I have been home I have lost another 9 lbs. I know that if I have chemo I will probably gain some of that back, but may also lose some on the hormone therapy. Has anyone else had a problem getting their appetite back after surgery>

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012
    GmaNiki- Sorry to hear about fluid leakage.  You may try using a maxi-pad and taping it down.  You still may have to get up to change it but maybe you won't have to change your clothes.  As for the eating, you may just want to switch eating small meals more like snacking than trying to sit down to eat 3 meals a day.  I know you probably don't feel like eating; I was like that when I first came home after my UMX.  My DH made sure I ate even if it was just a small portion.  Hope everything is okay and you start feeling better.
  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited April 2012

    Gmaniki- sorry about the drainage. Melrose had a great idea about using a maxi pad. You might be able to get more rest. You can wrap it with an ace bandage.My appetite was good in the hospital, but has tapered off. I went to the store and bought a lot of fresh fruit and some cereal that I like so if I do get hungry it's handy. Even though I have 12 positive nodes my MO still ordered the Oncotype. If it is a low score positive nodes or not chemo is not going to be the answer. I don't want to kill all my good cells for not. I am going to call Genomic Health tomorrow to see if they have the tissue yet. I wish the burning pain would stop so I can sleep. I want to sleep on my side so bad. I wake up with a headache from sleeping on my back and then it's the pits to try to get out of bed. I took my son fishing tonight. It felt good to do that for him. Usually I fish with him, but he understands I can't do that yet.

    I just looked at the list at the top of the post and can't believe it keeps getting longer. It makes me sad. Good luck to those who are still waiting for their dates.

  • rtnyc
    rtnyc Member Posts: 155
    edited April 2012

    anxiety is an understatement at this point. last day of work is tomorrow,  more and more people at work know I'll be out, had to tell more and more people, can't even counthow many times I said breast cancer between yesterday and today.  the president of my company came to my office to give me hug. OMG that was so nice, then the GM gave me hug, then my mothers friends started calling, I so can't keep it together.  Why can't we drink, I can really use it now. so instead I just ate 2 chocolate donuts, now I feel sick! Working has helped me stay in denial during this waiting time but I honestly don't know how I will get through the weekend. I think I'll have to get drugs from the doctor tomorrow.  Thanks everyone for support you've been great. hope everyone this week who has been through surgery are on their way to feeling better.  xoxo

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