February 2011 chemo pals
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GG so funny! I have to wash mine every day - I wake up looking like Don King every morning!
K I can get the back to flip up a little so it's not so mullety! I haven't cut it even once! -
CHEMO PEOPLE, I am having a return of my shoulder/upper arm pain again. Perhaps some of you know of this, after surgery and during radiation, many women complained of shoulder blade pain and that sort of thing, partly surgery, partly radiation, mysterious, but not lyphedema (my arms are about the same size, no cording, but I have been massaging lymph fluids down arm towards armpit and over chest etc.). Well, I thought it had finally gone away, and now it's back again, only it's just in upper arm as an ache and also in top shoulder muscle as a pain.
FUZZY, no sooner had you mentioned YOUR return of shoulder pain, either here or in the other forum or maybe I dreamed it, than I "came down" with the same pains. I guess I need to go back and read my own advice to you! Mine started up Saturday after visiting with family, I was SO exhausted and tired that day, so I thought it was that. And so I have been massaging and applying heat and EVERYTHING to make it stop. It's just so dang sore! I guess it's something that will happen sometimes. I had a modified radical mastectomy, no recon, so maybe since I have no strength whatsoever over there, I have somehow strained it.
ANOTHER SUBJECT: HAIR. Of course. We chemo girls REALLY had to suffer with this dang thing with the hair routine. NEVERMIND the cancer, the madness, the pain. NO INDEED. It's the hair that's the thing, girls. We might as well admit it. But I've always been the long-haired type and I simply do not like being zero-haired type. SIGH. What is UP with my hairs??? Ohhhhh, if it weren't for my sense of humor, I would be in a straightjacket by now. Of course, it doesn't help that I'm lards of pounds overweight at the moment, too. Kind of gives me that butch look, don't you know, and I might be tough, but not THAT tough. My hairs look sort of like those poor poodles they haul into the Animal Cops shelters that haven't been groomed for centuries, they have this sad, curly, kinda miserable look, empty eyes, pitiful creatures. Yes, I have become pitiful.
Folks, let's come on out and cheer ourselves, because of all the hurt. Some of us are being tormented all over again on account of this disease, some of us have a sore shoulder and wigged-out hair, some of us have been in car wrecks, lost relatives, wound up in the hospital too many times, lost jobs,and are in general lost, and some of us are in the Stage IV department desperately trying to find some time... it's all there and so we need good cheer.
MY PRAYER.......If there were SOMEthing I could do to make this world completely beautiful even with death at the end of it. I could talk about what I think is beautiful in our world, perhaps? Well then, these are a few things I find beautiful. I do so enjoy watching those TV programs about people who survive death and tell us about the afterlife they visit. And I do dearly love "dancing" with my new doggie, which I hug him around his chest, and he puts his long nose up alongside my neck, and I start turning him and me around in a circle, and off he goes, and then I twirl in the middle and weave around him the other way, and he laughs, I can see that dog laugh. And so divine is the morning sun across the green, green grass.
I see the divine. I feel the divine. And that is really what I want to share, if I can. I see it in all natural things, and I see it in people as dark as some get, and I feel all the emotion a person can stand. But not since I was ten years old have I felt the purity of human spirit as I have in these forums, with my chemo sisters as close to me as my dearest friends in real life and the ones passed away. The world is a world of struggle, but it is also tipping towards the good, just as Christ said he had overcome the whole world, he meant that HIS WORD, which the word is the beginning and the end, eternal, so he meant his word had overcome the world, which he preached we should love God, which is to so drench ourselves in a loving spirit all the time that we cannot go wrong, which gives us the grace of loving each other, and that means even the worst people of us all, the jailed, the power-deranged, the ones acting out the worst of evils... yes, by the Grace of God we love them all, because everyone deserves to be forgiven. We're only human.

But one day, one day, I believes we will be like the angels, and comfort and love will surround us, and we will live on in the light of all the stars in the universe at once. May I have some wings so I can fly to help the people get there? May I see golden sunrises fall across my lawn every day? May I always have my girlfriends here to share with? Do not let the good give one ounce of energy to evil doings, or we'll wind up in a hailstorm. But I already know how it all turns out, and while the whole 2012 thing is because, as husband said, the Mayan astronomer died and thus their calendar stopped (toooo funny), the change it suggests is actually happening right now, where the good is tipping the earth to the positive forever more. Noticed how the earth is moving under our feet, how uneven are the world events? Notice how our country's Democrats are trying so hard to make it right for the "most vulnerable," which so many in political theater have said, and the Republicans are throwing seniors under the bus for billionaires? This is good versus evil embodied in our politics. It is hard to imagine a more important election in my country, in my lifetime or anyone's lifetimes, altho FDR was in a similar amazing circumstance. But this is the year where the good will finally overcome, and we shall then all lead the most amazing lives, from here forward grace will take over, and Barack will finally be able to fully express himself as the visionary person he is, and yes, we will see peace in our lifetimes.
And yet I doubt the truth. My back hurts so much. My feet are fractured, I limp, I cannot just walk up the street for a pleasant lookie-see of other people's homes, yards, trees, and flowers, to a quiet rhythm only known by my heart. And disease, as all other evil, lays in wait for me. But I can sit on my porch and daydream. John Mayer said we gotta have "Dreams, dreams to remember," so with whatever you have, go out and MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE, so you can remember them when you can't make it any further. The finish line is a forever life on earth, without all the bad stuff, but it will take us, the human beings, focused so hard on the good to make it happen. So cheer ourselves on, girls, we deserve it, everyone deserves the feel-good stuff born into us...all we gotta do is keep it to the very end and never lose faith.
Oh, here I go again, making a big speech, and then disappearing for an age, only to reappear again and take up another half-page in this thread. Just who do I think I am? SIGH. But bless you, my dear chemo sisters, each and every one of you has made an impression on me, and I am forever thankful that we have this place we can come to and be REAL, be the BEST, be the beautiful women we all are. SO WHAT if my arm is sore, so what if my hair looks like a Chia Pet, so what if we are in this cancer fight, so what if bad news just keeps on coming... but don't you know, it's only bad because it stands out from so much good, and it's more colorful because the devil knows his time is short. But cure for all our ills is just a hearbeat away. MARK MY WORDS, at the end of this year, it will not be the end of the world; it will be the end of evil. If you think it, it will be so. If you believe it, everything you ever wanted will be yours. If you walk in grace, your path will be lined by rose petals. And if you love everything, you will see God. In the Good Shepherd's name I pray these things to the Heavenly Father, Amen.

In the end, patient readers, I just want to sincerely say I am sister to you all for always, humbled by you, wishing only angels and heavely light for you forever. I just want to share the love. And I'd also like to know how do I MAKE MY SHOULDER STOP HURTING??? SMILE. Gail
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dogeyed - as always, beautiful words from you. Wish I could make your pain go away, nobody deserves that more than you. Do you have access to physical therapists? I found great relief from shoulder/arm soreness and lymphedema related pain when I went to see them at Moffitt.
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Dogeyed, you're the best !
thanks for your beautiful, kind, and caring words.we definately are a sisterhood and I'm thankful for you all.
, i wish too that I could make your shoulder pain disappear. Maybe some more dancing with your amazing dog will loosen it up.
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So sorry Dogeyed that you are in pain... Hope you are able to work through it real soon... Your post was beautifull.....
Cindy -
GG: I'm telling ya....we're connected!!! I may have asked you this already ... but have your tried acupuncture? I haven't but I'm ready to try it ... and it's not as expensive as I thought it would be. In fact...I'm considering buying needles and sticking myself!!
Oh - then I could put those needles on my head and make new hairstyles! HAHAHAHAAA!!! My FauxHawk is getting a little heavy so I'm stuck on what the next obnoxious thing I will do with it ... I've colored it at least 10 times already. My mom said it's going to fall out ... HAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Well, it grows back!
This isn't me ... but it's about the same length and cut ... except I colored it super dark today:
I'm I'm thinking about this one ...
Probably won't because her forehead is like half the size of mine!!LOL
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dogeyed- love your post- it was touching. hope you feel better.
fuzzy- i cannot do the first hairdo- my hair isn't long enough yet up top and what is there is determined to keep the poodle look.
now it's getting to the curly on top and puffed on the sides look. that's where i get weak and cut it all short again. can't stand it when it's curly and sticking out all over.... guess i'll have to keep that to eventually let it grow.
i do read on here still though not posting as much. work and family keep me busy. i do love allthe folks on the board- and especially here.
Sisters you all are.
Lisa
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LADIES, my arm is much better today. Thank you for so many kind thoughts. It is the Thursday after the Saturday that my arm started bothering me. Either it just got strained and got well by itself, or some lymph was indeed building up, and so my doing the lymphedema painting of arm towards chest and so forth worked. Also, I apologize for the TREMENDOUS length of my remarks here recently, whattsup with that? Guess I was out of my head with pain and thought I was heading towards the crossing. LOVE, GG
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GG you are a voice for everyone ... no edits for you my dear!! You just do your thing!
So glad to hear your arm is BETTER!!!! That's AWESOME!!!!!!
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dogeyed- you crack me up..and you're post was lovely.
I have the chemo mullet as well. I've had mine cut once and then just had the bottom trimmed again. It needs cut badly and I'm not afraid to get it cut, I'm just afraid of who I'm going to have cut it. I don't want much taken off. And I'm afraid they'll cut too much. I've taken to filling in my eyebrows and putting mascara on them too to make them darker. I think they are thickening a bit but still light. I'm still hopeful that they'll return to their former glory.
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Melanie I have always admired your beauty ... you are super stunning and I hope you get your eyebrows back and then some! LOL Mine are...tolerable...I still use mascara on them and they still have that funky chemo grey/brown color...but they are thick enough I guess...not the lovely caterpillars that I had before!
If you get the chance...come on over to the Romp Room...
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Not too thrilled to be reporting that is seems I have developed mild lymphedema.
I've had intermittent tinges of pain that run from my armpit to my wrist though the last year. It had always resolved itself in 3-7 days so I never gave it much thought. This time, the pain has lingered for 2 1/2 weeks and is getting worse. Last night I had trouble sleeping and I decided to make an appt with my PCP. In the back of my mind I was wondering if it could be lymphedema or cording of some sort but I wanted to believe that I messed it up at the gym.
I didn't realize that I have pitting edema in my forearm right below the elbow joint. My entire arm is tender to the touch. It feels like there is a rubber band running from my armpit to my thumb. The edema is mild.
Tomorrow I see the onc to see about getting a sleeve. My PCP prescribed a diuretic and said to go for a massage. But I could tell by reading her face that she didn't think either would fix it.
I'm bummed. I mean if I had to choose between cancer and lymphedema, I'd choose the LE. But I'm still bummed. 15 months out of surgery...I thought I was putting BC in the past.
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Oh honey....so sorry ... tonight you could do some masssages that really might help!! And you'll need to do them every day! Check out the LE threads and all you have to do is start ... it's a dangerous little beast so make sure you stay on top of it! And, there is good news...you can actually retrain your body so the other parts of your lymphatic system will take over for the ones that were removed ... at least, that's what I was told and so far, it's worked!
Keep us updated ok?
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Just dropping in on all my old friends from the months and months (and more months apparently) of chemo. Wow, who would have thunk how our days would unfold from diagnosis? Once in a while I'll read over an old post, here and in other threads, and I realize I had completely forgotten all the scary details of treatment. While I feel better than I have in recent years, and while I have more happy days than sad days, I just gotta say for ALL US SURVIVORS that it ain't easy, that's fo sho. Reminds me of an old Dylan song: "It ain't me, babe, no no no, it ain't me, babe, it ain't me you're lookin for."
My cancer doc didn't order a CT scan or otherwise when rads and thus all treatment was done, so I had to tell him I wanted one, so supposedly come September I'll get it. I was looking at pictures of PET scans, some combined PET/CT, I guess it's expensive, but the colorized ones I saw really show cancer big and bright as day. But I want to trust a trained cancer radiologist would be able to spot anything on a regular CT. I wonder if there is a concensus on to have or not to have and what is the question! Hahaha. That is, what is the type of scan!!! Ha. My mind is always filled with rhymes and music. Love, GG
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pejkug3- I've had lymphedema for a year now and mine started the same way. I would get to skilled LE therapist asap! But make sure they actually do therapy on you. I went through 3 before I found one that I liked. I actually haven't had to go to her since August of last year. I've managed so far by myself, but I initially went for 3 months. Learn how to wrap your arm. It is so much more comfortable and works better than a sleeve. Of course, I just wear the wrap to bed usually and the sleeve when I'm exercising, traveling or outside when its too hot. My advice is to get it treated early and try to keep it out of your hand! That is my trouble spot. And I didn't know any better and wore a sleeve without a glove with fingers and it pushed all the swelling into my fingers and hand and I haven't been able to get it out since. But some days it looks great. I absolutly hate it, but I learned alot from the LE thread.
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Hey Feb 2011 pals- I miss you all!
I think of you often. I went to a survivor event last week& was talking w/ folks about my treatment etc. They were looking sorry for me. (Us triple positive girls have a solid year of active treatment). I feel so much better.Recently got BRAC tested- negative. And today I had a pelvic ultrasound. It was my first test of any kind. I was freaked. I had lots of perimenopausal stuff b/f BC diagnosis. Thankfully it was FINE! YEAH! (I ain't used to hearing anything positive you all know what I mean there...) My GYN said "the arimidex is doing it's job" My endometrial measurement was smaller than she usually sees (which she was pleased w/). No cysts on the ovaries.
I admit I get FREAKED at any and all body pains these days... I am hypersensitive. I really wonder now what sort of aches and pains did I ignore pre- BC???
Love you all- hope you are having more good days than bad. Coming up on my 1 year PFH for the TC part of my tx. Weird..
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Hi all - thinking of all of you and glad LisaGH posted to bring up this thread into active topics! Speaking of LE - just returned from physical therapy - had a flare and range of motion loss from my exchange surgery. Other than that it was a great success - glad to lose the TEs! Insurance just denied the colonoscopy my MO requested, and don't want to get the PET scan he requested until a longer gap from the exchange surgery - stuff will just light up from that, so no point. Aches and pains from Femara, but walking 4 miles a day and returning to the gym with the blessing from my LE therapist, next week. Yay! Hair is good, not curly, and growing pretty fast now that I am 4 months from the last
Herceptin. How is everyone else? -
Hi everyone and a special hello to my triplets (Lisa and SpecialK)!
It's really hard to believe that I finished chemo almost a year ago. Even harder to believe how much treatment I completed over the past year with chemo, Herceptin and Rads. It's beginning to fade into the background a little bit now although I get spooked from time to time because of pain. I have chronic, terrible joint pain on Tamoxifen and the docs seem to think it's unusual (I don't). Just to be safe I went to a rheumatologist for testing last week-still waiting on results.
I finally had enough hair to get a proper haircut in the past month and highlights and I feel more normal now that my hair has a little style. It's still really wavy/curly and unmanageable and I can't wait until it reverts back to the straight stuff I'm accustomed to.
I'm in week 4 of the YMCA Livestrong program and highly recommend it! The trainers are great and are really supportive and understanding in developing a fitness plan while taking into account that we are weak and fatigued after/during treatment.
How is everyone else doing these days?
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Doing good here. Ok Im fibbing abit but its the same ole same ole as all of us do from time to time. The aches and pains are letting up some, (thank goodness). But there are still more bad days then good. But it sure beats the heck out how I felt during chemo. The only thing that bugs me is when I rough house with the kiddos, (mind you they are 19 and 22) and if they whack me a good one, it really hurts down in the bones. It brought tears to my eyes from the pain it left me. I thought that was strange. Never had that before all this now it kinda sucks.
Im ready for haircut number 2. I still have lots of curl left and want it gone. I'm hoping this last cut will do it. I miss my spikes and Im ready for some hair dye as well. Funny how it came back even graier then berfore, thats not why Im coloring it. I just don't like my natural hair color. Ready for the dark hair again. May go wild and have some funky put in the mix as well. I'm feeling abit wild, lol!
Hope everyone else is getting along great. Thanks girls for being there when I needed it the most and the least. I will never forget you all!
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Great to hear from folks on here! I hear you Paula- I keep having to tell myself a bad hair day is still better than a no hair day. My hair cannot be tamed at this point w/ those curls. I am trying to let it grow out & it's at a very bushy stage!!
Special K and Dragonfly- my triplets!!! Special K- sorry about the PT- but hope you get to feeling better soon. I need to exercise more- you both are ahead of me there.
I have to start back on vitamins, etc again. I stopped everything except Arimidex when I had the lower abdominal pain flare. It's totally gone now, so will start adding those one at the time.
June 1 is getting close as the one year post completion of the 6 cycles of TC. I feel worlds better than I did at this time last year though not like before.
Happy to be celebrating!
Hope you all have a great day.
Lisa
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The place it allllllllll began!!! Feb 2011 CHEMO PALS!!!
I keep this as a favorite to watch when someone posts. I love reading your stories and seeing the updates. Getting hair cuts and getting through the last fills and exchanges and such.....ahhhhh. GG: That's fo' sho' girl! It isn't easy!
Melanie....you're picture was my inspiration for my Faux Hawk I was sporting for a while. I actually had it cut and shaved to the style! LOL
I am still a little spun with the whole deal...after diagnosis. Some things have changed that I would have never expected - from super awesome to super crappy. But I will say, this has been a learning experience like no other - but I connected with my sisters and that is so valuable to me.
LOVE YOU ALL!
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fuzzy - love you too!
LisaGH - the PT is a good thing - it is helping and it is relaxing, so I really like going!
dragnfly - Hi!
paula - your post made me laugh when you talked about rough-housing with your big kiddos! I am the smallest one - both my kids tower over me so no rough-housing for me!
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Hi ladies,
I'm happy to see that everyone is still keeping in touch. I've had 2 hair cuts already. The 1st one was more of a trim. Still my hair has some waives but nothing like before. My friends don't get the obsession with the curls, only you girls get it.
My 1 year anniversary is approaching since my last chemo. I've been feeling pretty good and thought that I'm slowly getting back to "normal" but a few days ago my hand started to swell up. It's pretty uncomfortable and the swelling goes down a bit while I sleep as soon as I get up it swells up again. I believe I have lymphedema. I wanted to book my 1st appointment with a physiotherapist by she's on holiday for 3 weeks. Is this an emergency? Should I find someone fast? I really don't know what to do. Has anybody heard or done vascularized lymph node transfers?
As always look forward to hear from my friends.
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Hi Melanie,
How are you doing? I haven't been on here in a while.
I'm sorry to read that you had lymphedema. How is your lymphedema now? I just noticed swelling in my hand and I'm wondering what to do. I'm pretty sure I have the same.
Take care of yourself.
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Hi SpecialK,
Good to hear from you. It's wonderful that you're excercising and that you're hair is growing in fast.
I'm sorry that you had LE and insurance issues. I hope that gets resolved for you.
Take care of yourself.
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Braveheart....bummer about the LE! The massage techniques work well for me! Have you checked into that? Gotta stimulate your lymphatic system and train it to do its job with a few less soldiers. The human body is a trip!
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braveheart - I am doing fine - but I am sorry to hear about your hand swelling. I am currently in PT as well. Is it possible to contact your surgeon or oncologist for a recommendation for PT prior to your appt. in 3 weeks? I am asking this because hand swelling is problematic to manage - more difficult I think than the arm. There are two members Binney and Kira and they are very knowledgeable about LE. Maybe a PM to either of them? They can link you to info that may help you. I hope you get it under control soon.
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Hi BRAVEHEART, good to see you! Sorry to hear about your hand. Two haircuts, eh? Oh, my hair, well at least I don't look like Beethoven anymore. It's actually long enough to where I am a regular girl again. I sometimes let it stick out all over, really funny sometimes, I look like a crazy lady. Just yesterday I said to myself I need to visit a hair stylist, maybe extensions and a dye job?
People, can you believe it's June 1? It's just about a month from when chemo stopped for me, and I've come to the conclusion that it does sort of rearrange our constitutions, but I'm accepting it finally. I've been walking more and gosh it helps so much. Later! GG
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Braveheart- I would recommend getting in as soon as possible. I know that I'm answering a couple of weeks late though! I have swelling in my hand and its the pits! I didn't have a very good PT at first and she never did therapy on me..just told me how to do it. If she had done it in the beginning, I probably could have had it under better control. I went to PT for 4 months last year and had about 9 month break before the heat of summer came back. Now I've been back in PT for about 3 weeks. REAd the Lymphedema thread for more info! They have lots of it. Or feel free to PM me.
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