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  • wrighkar
    wrighkar Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2012

    Wondering what feedback people have about taking glutamine while on Taxol. I've done alot of online research and the results are varied. While there is strong evidence that glutamine can really decrease the numbness and tingling, some studies suggest it can also fuel cancer cells (while other research suggests it doesn't). I'm heading into 12 weeks of weekly Taxol and my oncologist prefers that I don't take any supplements other than vitamins...but my acupuncturist (who has treated tons of people going through chemo) highly recommends glutamine. I'd love to offset the SE of Taxol but don't want to fuel cancer cells and every forum I browse is just as conflicted. Anyone had a direct conversation with their oncologist about glutamine?

  • dechi
    dechi Member Posts: 173
    edited April 2012

    I took it during taxol and my MO was fine with it.  I had no neuropathy symptoms at all!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    I took it, b complex and acetyl carnitine. the hard research I found that was most current is that it does protect against neuropathy (I had none) and that it can actually MAKE cancer cells receptive to chemo, not fueling them. I never found that. my naturopath okayed it and she does her research as I do.

    Claire

  • nfranklin
    nfranklin Member Posts: 119
    edited April 2012

    My MO says no to supplements, but said I could have each supplement checked out by hospital pharmacy . I am allowed to take vitamin D, but not B12, I don't know.

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited April 2012

    My MO had no objections to me taking them - just said there was no "real" evidence they work... I have been taking the 3 recommended and have minor, occassional numbness in the ends of my thumbs only.



    Jenn

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    I found the acetyl l carnitine to be more effective for me so I used that.

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited April 2012

    Pity that it's highly unlikely that there will ever be serious trials of the use of these. Research money is so tight that researching treatments for prevention of (mostly minor) side effects is not really on anyone's research agenda...

    Day 5 yesterday after my 5th of 12 Taxols and ended up sitting at my work desk yesterday afternoon with a case of the shivers. So I popped over to my chemo centre and they checked me out with blood tests etc. Couldn't find anything wrong thankfully so got to go home. "Only" another 7 of these to go.... Undecided

    Jenn

  • jap62
    jap62 Member Posts: 1,385
    edited April 2012

    hyad my first dd taxol today, no allergic reaction, yeah.   Been up since 3 am, had to get up to take steroids.  Was  at tx for 5 1/2 hours, to noisy to sleep. So going to bed at 8.

    I did fine AC, so of course I think I will be hit hard on dd taxol.

     I will then have my DMX in June.  I do not have to have rads so can I just get the implants (having skin sparing) and skip the expanders? Anyone ever hear of this? 

  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2012

    I just got home from my second to last Taxol. I did have a reaction. While I was talking to the nurse I got a sudden, stabbing pain in my thigh. I was pointing to it just as the nurse said, 'okay, here we go.' Within a second I was bright red and I felt like a lead apron had been dropped over my head and chest. She quickly disconnected the taxol, shot me up with something, and I was fine within minutes. No shortness of breath. Weird. We waited fifteen minutes or so and then hooked me back up and finished the treatment. The only thing I'm feeling now is the Benadryl sleepiness.



    I'm hoping this third taxol will be as easy as the last one was. The first was horrible, but for these last two they've been giving me extra fluids and that seems to make a difference.



    I saw my MO today. The tumor has gotten very small on physical exam, but she was a broken record in saying they don't really know anything until the surgeon opens me up. Her impatience was more evident today than I've seen before, and Linda and i felt frustrated asking her questions. She's clearly smart as a whip, an expert on triple negative breast cancer, and I trust that she knows what she's doing. But bedside manner? Not so great. We made her answer our questions anyway, but sheesh.



    Annie

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    Jennt-there are some studies on the l carnitine. My onc actually referenced them and was ok with using it. I think there might be some on glutamine also, but I didn't look that hard for those.

  • nfranklin
    nfranklin Member Posts: 119
    edited April 2012

    I have a cold not sure what I can take for it. Contacted Drs. Office didn't hear back today. Feeling pretty bad, a little low grade fever and a headache. What does everyone take for a cold while on chemo?

  • wrighkar
    wrighkar Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2012

    Thanks, ladies for your response to my glutamine question!

    Jennt28 - You're right about research money being tight but there are few studies out there involving glutamine. Just nothing conclusive and the ones I was able to find seemed to contradict each other. But I love that you've had very minor SE! One more round and you'll be halfway! 

    fluffqueen01 - I'll look into carnitine, thanks!

    Claire - I love your quote! 

    dechi - I wonder if it matters if lymph nodes were involved. 

  • wrighkar
    wrighkar Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2012

    nfranklin- I came down with a cold today as well...am drinking TheraFlu right now. There isn't anything I was told that was off limits except for ibuprofren.

  • Anko66
    Anko66 Member Posts: 302
    edited April 2012

    I had my 13th weekly dose of Taxol yesterday, without any steroids.  And I was fine, just really really tired. I slept for 18 hours..! but it was nice to get a good night's sleep following chemo, and hopefully my acne will start to clear up now.  Hope this info helps somebody.

    PS. I didn't have any nausea either.

  • nfranklin
    nfranklin Member Posts: 119
    edited April 2012

    Finally got word from my doctors office, said it was okay to take Sudafed, Tavist-D, Sinutab, Acitfed,or Benadryl. So I am taking Sudafed.

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited April 2012

    Exhaustion hit today - almost a week after 3rd tx. Guess I've been doing too much because I've been feeling pretty good. I took a 4 hour nap! Now I'm afraid I won't be able to sleep tonight. Oh....i can't wait for this to be over....1 more Taxol to go!!

  • braids3
    braids3 Member Posts: 173
    edited April 2012

    i too just stumbled on this its been a heck of a ride for me my port became infected so they had to stop the taxol for 2 weeks i was on the weekly no major se, then my white count dropped and my wound was slow healing changed to every other week ,yea just had my ninth infusion  my cat scan showed the tumors under arm were down by 1/2 next step will be to switch to Xeloda since my veins are starting to be uncoopertive and it also passes the blood brain barrier better than most i hope this wasn't to rambling

  • traces2757
    traces2757 Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2012

    Well I went in for my first Taxol treatment, and they couldn't give it to me. Hemoglobin, white cell, and platelet counts were too far below normal. Except for the one time when I had a tooth abscess, this never happened before with my chemo. We are waiting a week to see if counts improve, and in the meantime I'm kinda quaranteeing myself from being around too many people so I won't catch anything. I hate knowing that my immune system is so compromised right now! Hopefully lots of rest and taking good care of myself will show an improvement when I go in next Thursday. Then I get to see how the Taxol affects me. Wish me luck!

  • 7of9
    7of9 Member Posts: 833
    edited April 2012

    Good luck traces2757...did you do Neulasta? worth the aches if you can. Meanwhile my 3rd and second to last Taxol/all neo adjunct after AC is Thursday. I am sick of the needles already. Aches. Off colon...etc. So ready for this chapter to be DONE!

  • dipad
    dipad Member Posts: 174
    edited April 2012

    Hi everyone,

    I'll be starting taxol tommorrow after 4 rounds of AC. I'm a bit nervous about this possible infusion reaction. For those who had a reaction is is bearable? Also any naseau on taxol? Do you all find the Taxol more tolerable than the AC? Are there chemo slug bad days? With the AC days 3-5 after steroids were pretty bad. Tired and no appetite. I'm also very senstive to drugs and am worried because the nurse said I wont be taking steroids at home but they wil be pumping me up with alot on infusion day with benadryl. Seriously, benedry would wipe me out!

  • dechi
    dechi Member Posts: 173
    edited April 2012

    I had Taxol and Herceptin X 12.  I found the Taxol way better than AC.  The first couple of txts I had a little bit of queasiness but nothing after that.  I was not done for the count like with AC.  No brain fog either. 

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited April 2012

    dipad - I'm having my last (4th dose dense) Taxol on Thursday.Laughing    Much easier than A/C. I usually feel queazy for the 1st day and my appetite has been fine. I have a tiny bit of tingling in the tips of my toes and my left pinkie finger - nothing really major. The Benadryl wipes me out, too - I usually doze during my infusion. The infusion takes a lot longer than A/C. My nurses give the Taxol slowly to help avoid the reaction. They actually slow the drip down for me because it was burning a little going thru my port. I'm at the infusion center for 5 to 6 hours - getting blood work done, waiting to see my MO, seeing my MO, getting the blood work results back, and finally getting the actual infusion. Hopefully you'll have it much easier, too.

  • bethu77
    bethu77 Member Posts: 320
    edited April 2012

    Welcome Tracy! You can say and ask anything that bothers you here.

    Congrats NCbeachgal!

  • nfranklin
    nfranklin Member Posts: 119
    edited April 2012

    Had my third Taxol treatment this morning, was very tired, came home got a bite to eat, laid down took a 4 hour nap. Today I had pain in my hand while getting my treatment, nurse came in raised the meds on the pole higher straightened my arm out, that I had resting on my stomach, and that did give me some relief ( I don't have a port yet, getting a port got for my FAC treatments after my thirteen Taxol treatment ), still had some pain in my hand even after the adjustment. Have no other SE's tonight, very thankful. My first 16 weeks before my surgery I was in a clinical trial, I took Femara, a trial for post menopausal women, it worked by reducing the size of the tumor. We will discuss my taking Femara after the chemo and rads, I understand that I would be taking it for the next 5 to 10 years, not really sure yet. Like most people I am new to this disease and trying to get all the information possible, wanting to be involved in the decisions that will save my life. If anyone else have any info please let me know you can PM me if you like or just post it here. Have a great night. Love all of you and pray for you.

  • dechi
    dechi Member Posts: 173
    edited April 2012

    nfranklin - Why so long b/4 getting the port?  If you have the option I would get it now.  It makes life so much easier (at least in my opinion, although I can't wait to be rid of it, it has been great)....

  • nfranklin
    nfranklin Member Posts: 119
    edited April 2012

    Dechi: I ask my doctor he said since the Taxol is only two hours that this would be easier for me. He did say I would need the port for FAC b/c the A is hard on the veins. I only have one good vein in my hand and they use it for every treatment so far. I will be pushing the issue of the port b/c I do only have the one good vein. Will keep you posted.

  • dechi
    dechi Member Posts: 173
    edited April 2012
    I would push for it too, especially since you're going to get it anywayTongue out
  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited April 2012

    I've had bad SE's with taxol.  Much worse than A/C.   I also have neuropathy and it lasted up until I got my 3rd DD Taxol.   I was taking l-glutamine but it obviously wasn't enough to keep away neuropathy.   Now, I woke up Sunday and both my feet were numb and fingers are still a little numb and tingling.   So, I started also taking Acetyl Lipoic Acid.   I didn't get the okay from the MO yet to take it but I figured it is better I try it than have to cancel the last DD Taxol treatment.   We had already talked about having to cut back the treatments because of the neuropathy, so I will see how it goes by next Monday and what he recommends.  I don't want to be permanently disabled.  I am still getting very fatigued and nauseous every day and running a fever.  The only way I seem to feel better so that I can do anything but sit on the couch is to take Percocet.   I hate taking it, but it is the only thing that helps bring down the fever and make me feel better.   I will be so glad to be done with taxol.   I now have to start thinking about radiation.   I haven't had a meeting yet with the RO or know what will be recommended.  I need to do more research.  So much to do and learn through this process.  It is almost like a full-time job in itself.

  • bethu77
    bethu77 Member Posts: 320
    edited April 2012

    Hello all! I had neuropathy with my Taxol treatments and I am regaining some of the feeling in my fingertips. My feet have feeling also. I massaged my fingers as well as I could and rub lotion on my feet at night. I wish I could afford someone to give me a massage a couple of time per week. I had my last treatment on 2/21/12.

    I have had joint pain the last two days. It feels like the pain I got from Taxol. Oh, I don't miss those painful days!

    I do have some good days and I hope each of you do too!

  • dechi
    dechi Member Posts: 173
    edited April 2012

    Okay, so I finished Taxol 2 weeks ago tomorrow and NOW my nails start to hurt.  Has this happened to anybody else?

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