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  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited April 2012

    After my Diep, I preferred the bed. I actually didn't like the recliner, but I did use a wedge under my knees in bed, so that I didn't over stretch my belly.

  • TexasRose
    TexasRose Member Posts: 740
    edited April 2012

    I slept in my bed as soon as I got home. I couldn't have slept in a recliner. I didn't have any problems sitting in my recliner during the day. Mine has a handle. I didn't buy any special pillows-just put a regular pillow under each leg. I kept a pillow on top of me too because my kitty likes to lay on me. For awhile, I had a LOT of pillows!

  • ReadingMama
    ReadingMama Member Posts: 573
    edited April 2012

    I loved sleeping in the recliner!! I don't think I could have slept on the bed at all.  Mine has a handle as well, I had trouble the first night or two, but then it was fine.  I used an airline pillow behind my head at night, a pillow under my legs and pillows under each arm b/c one needed heat from a leaked IV on my last day.  I slept on the recliner for quite a long time, I would have to look back to see how long, but more than two weeks. Plus I had a comfy heated blanket and the TV, it was great actually.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited April 2012

    After my BMX, I spent one night in my recliner then slept in my bed afterwards.  I bought a step stool so I could get up into the bed without using my arms (our mattress is very high) and I bought this pillow to help keep me on my back, which I am sure I'll use again after my DIEP.  I bought mine at Bed Bath & Beyond.

  • Snobird
    Snobird Member Posts: 593
    edited April 2012

    I had no need to use a recliner. Preferred pillows. I didn't like sitting in one at the hospital either.

    I think I recovered quicker because I needed to use my muscles lightly and I enjoyed stretching out flat on my bed for a few minutes before I got comfy with the pillows and in the AM I would throw them on the floor and stretch flat again before I would roll over on to my side and put my feet on the floor and get up. At week 2 or so I started laying on my yoga mat on the floor for 10 to 15 minutes every night and morning

  • julianna51
    julianna51 Member Posts: 438
    edited April 2012

    Thank you everyone for sharing your recliner thoughts with me.  Maybe I'll just spend the money on an Ipad instead...sounds like much more fun!  LuvRVing, thanks for the photo of the pillow - I like the look of that..

    Had another talk with my parents last night about my surgery.   Everyone, of course, is concerned with the length of the surgery/anesthesia....  I think I have finally explained it all well enough that they feel a little more comfortable.  Told them I had even talked with my naturopath regarding it and when they heard that she didn't have much concern about it, that helped them too.

  • wrsmith2x
    wrsmith2x Member Posts: 410
    edited April 2012

    Julianna51,

    I rented an electric hospital bed for $140/month and only used it that long.  We put it in the living room and it worked well for me.  Good luck to you!

  • iswimibikeirun
    iswimibikeirun Member Posts: 743
    edited April 2012

    Get the ipad!  It'll distract you post surgery!

    I was worried about the length of surgery (I was in from 8 until 6), but surprisingly, it wasn't bad.  My throat didn't hurt.  The surgical team encouraged my family to go to the mall (when they updated the hospital, they put a walkway bridge connecting it to a mall) and not hang around the waiting room because it would cause them to worry, etc.

  • julianna51
    julianna51 Member Posts: 438
    edited April 2012

    Yes, I keep telling my parents (and anyone else) to NOT wait around all day...that it will be a very long day.  However, they are being stubborn and think they have to wait there.  They are 83 years old so I hope they will listen at the time of surgery and go to my sister's house (which is much closer to the hospital than their home) and just be comfortable for the day.

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited April 2012

    I vote for the ipad as well!!!

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited April 2012

    After they took me in for surgery, DH went back and got DS ready for school and then took him to school. Then, I think, he went back to his parents (our base of operations) and took a nap. He also picked DS up from school etc... I don't think he came back to the hospital until they told him I was out and heading to recovery. Since my surgery was 14 hours, he didn't get to see me until 10:35 pm. Apparently around 9 pm they gave up and put DS to bed again at the in-laws' house and my parents went home - I suspect they were all hanging out at the in-laws' house. Sitting around a hospital is no fun, discourage it as much as possible. With my shorter surgeries, DH did stick around the hospital but he had his laptop along and books to read.

  • TexasRose
    TexasRose Member Posts: 740
    edited April 2012

    I vote for the iPad too! I couldn't live without mine and it was great to have during recovery. Killed a lot of hours with it in the beginning.



    I think I always had someone waiting during surgery, but I don't really know. I've never asked. DH might have gone to the office for awhile to check email, but his office is 5 minutes from the hospital. My surgery was 9-1/2 hours and they have a sign on the wall that keeps family updated on the progress using a number you are assigned. They might have left in shifts, but there was always someone there. I know they went to the cafeteria because they have great food. The hospital food- not so much. It's kind of a thing around here-hanging out in the waiting room. It's kind of a family reunion. Lol

  • rthrift1
    rthrift1 Member Posts: 21
    edited April 2012

    I just had my 2 month followup appointment, and I must admit I am extremely discouraged. I just knew we would talk about phase II and get the ball rollling on touching things up. Well, I was wrong. He says the dog ears, that I think are horrible, will go down on their own. The doctor tends to think it is fluid and swelling that just needs a little more time. There is a large scar on my breast that he said he will fix during phase II, but I left with no new surgery date and the same dissapointments. Please dont get me wrong. I am very grateful and blessed to be cancer free and to have the reconstruction process started. I do realize that I have alot to be thankful for. I guess I just set my expectations too high. I cant fit into any of my clothes, and things just cant get better fast enough. Anyone else not have weight loss or have problems with dog ears?? Is there any special exercises or diets that helped?? Please someone.....give me hope! This diep surgery hasnt been nearly as great as I thought!

  • Snobird
    Snobird Member Posts: 593
    edited April 2012

    I think 2 months post stage 1 you still have a lot of swelling. I didn't even schedule my stage 2 until 11 months after stage 1. The dog ears are discouraging though and I couldn't wait to get rid of them. Most all my swelling was gone at 6 months so you might ask to revisit your PS then and tell him you want to schedule stage 2 before the next year for insurance reasons. Then ask him to do some contouring. Some PS don't do contouring but you should insist on it. I found drinking lots of water and walking a lot everyday helped with the post surgical swelling. Avoid sugary drinks altogether because they will keep you retaining fluid.

  • atv
    atv Member Posts: 5
    edited April 2012

    Thank you all so much for sharing your experiences about DIEP reconstruction!

    I live in the Chicago area and I am planning to schedule my bilateral DIEP reconstruction with Dr. Loren Schechter, his practice is University Plastic Surgery located at 9000 Waukegan Rd., Morton Grove, IL. Does anyone have any experience with Dr. Loren Schechter for DIEP reconstruction?

    Also, I have a question for those of you that are post-surgery: I know the development of keloids is very unpredictable but I am wonder if anyone has developing keloid after DIEP?

    Thanks!
  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited April 2012

    Hey DIEPsters,

    I'm wondering if any of the rest of you have this... I seem to have off and on swelling. I'm fine and then suddenly I feel like I've bloated up in the abdomen area. Then it'll go away and dventually come back again too.  Anyone else? Any thoughts?

    Also, I don't know how many of you are on Tamoxifen, but this month my period was only 3 days (that's the good part), but now, about a week after it ended, I'm feeling crampy, I never get cramps during this time of the month, anyone had that happen? I don't know anymore what things to worry about and what ones to let go of and just deal with. It's so frustrating to me, the brain always goes down the C road, even when it shouldn't. Aargh!  Ok enough whining from me. Thanks for any input you can give.

  • TexasRose
    TexasRose Member Posts: 740
    edited April 2012

    Had a reply typed out and I lost it. Hate it when that happens.

    rthrift1- I must be a week ahead of you. I'm 9 weeks out and had my followup with the PS last Thursday. We discussed my Stage 2 surgery and they will call this week to schedule it. Where did you leave things with your PS? Do you have another appt scheduled?

    atv- I can't help you, but good luck!!

    Cookie- Yes! I have the same thing. I have been feeling so flat. Today, I am so bloated. It could be for two reasons for me and I haven't decided which one yet. It could be because I have been moving my body a lot today. I rearranged some furniture and did some heavy duty cleaning. It seems to swell a lot with activity. Or it could be because I had a migraine over the weekend and I spent two solid days basically laying flat without moving. So mine is either over-activity...or under. Undecided

    I don't take Tamoxifen and I don't have periods anymore, but I do understand the brain going down the C road. That darned migraine. Or at least I hope it was a migraine. You know where my mind immediately goes. By the time I talked myself back to sanity, my sister and brother were both texting me and DH and saying I should get it checked out just to be sure. I do enough worrying on my own although I appreciate their concern. I had already emailed the onc's office and let them know. I haven't heard from them. So, it's been a bit of a whiny day here too.  

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited April 2012

    Thanks Mary! For me, it doesn't seem related to activity or inactivity that I can tell. I'm a teacher, so I'm pretty active most days. I'll ask the PS about it on Friday too.

    No migraine, thank goodness, but girly cramps instead. There seems to be a spot that's sore/achy when I push on it. Another thing to ask the PS about. 

    Blah! That's today for me. Hoping that tomorrow will be better.

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited April 2012

    I am 4 months post stage II and I get bloated still... and it seems to be worse after exercise.

  • julianna51
    julianna51 Member Posts: 438
    edited April 2012

    Bloating was not something I had even thought about.   How long really...before we begin to feel like we have our body back to "normal" or are these things the "new normal" that we'll have to live with forever?

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited April 2012

    Next fall, one year after stage II I am having a consult with my PS to discuss what next.. and it may include a plication (stitch stomach muscles together) but I am trying to tighten it up with exercis in the meantime.

  • rthrift1
    rthrift1 Member Posts: 21
    edited April 2012

    TexasRose- I am scheduled to go back in 4 weeks....Hurry up and wait, I guess! He seems more concerned about a scar that is a little bigger on my breast than he does the dog ears. I wanted to have to majority of this done by swimsuit time this year, but it doesnt appear that is going to happen. I decided yesterday to increase my physical activity some to see if that helps any. The walk I took with my daughter yesterday was great, but it just left me feeling bloated afterward. Im trying so hard to be positive, but I think I just had some high expectations. My boobs are a nice size but they are shaped like hamburger buns and my sides look horrible.....Totally not what I had hoped for. To make matters even worse, I started having side effects from the Arimidex. So, now I get to try something new starting next week. Im looking for a bright side to this, and I am so thankful to have the cancer out of me, but I just want this over. Hopefully in 4 weeks, when I go back to my surgeon, he will make me feel better about all this.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited April 2012

    I bought a recliner but after trying for a couple of nights, I made the spouse sleep in it and I took the whole bed. My bed is high-ish, and I stacked up pillows for the time I needed to be more upright. The recliner I bought felt really nice in the store, but with a big incision I found it was harder to get the same recline factor. The bed worked okay but the chair was good for watching TV.

  • dressager
    dressager Member Posts: 77
    edited April 2012

    Does anyone know if DIEP results in risk for lower limb lymphedema? I have mild LE in my arm and the thought of any more is terrifying.

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited April 2012

    excellent question dressager, was wondering about the mild LE in arm and moderate in trunk and then going through another sugery.  as in how does that affect it all.

  • julianna51
    julianna51 Member Posts: 438
    edited April 2012

    Just looking at my insurance options for open enrollment coming up....higher co-pays, added co-insurance....sigh.   So happy that I planned my surgery for June, otherwise I'd be paying an additional 10% co-pay on my hospital and surgeon bills.

  • iswimibikeirun
    iswimibikeirun Member Posts: 743
    edited April 2012

    @julianna - Yep, I kinda hurried to get everything done during this insurance year since I knew I'd hit my out-of-pocket max!

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited April 2012

    Dressager, good question. There is a slight risk of lymphedema following DIEP, usually abdominal rather than lower limb. I don't have any figures, since it's not been researched to my knowledge, but just anecdotally it seems to be much less of a risk than our arm or breast lymphedema following breast cancer surgery.

    Be well!
    Binney

  • tamlyn110
    tamlyn110 Member Posts: 195
    edited April 2012

    Figured it was time for another update. It has now been 12 weeks since my surgery and I had an appointment with my PS today. I still have a 9cm. tunnel that  still has to be packed. Has not changed at all in the last 2 weeks.

    I now have a buldge below my ab incision on the left side that he said is not a hernia just weakened tissue/muscle and he is sending me to therapy.I dont really understand how the right side is suppossed to heal if I am working those muscles to help the left side?

    The wound care nurse came on wednesday and suggested I get a ct scan of my abdomen just to see if there is a problem. Just so happenes I am already scheduled for a chest ct tommorrow so my regular Dr included the ab too.

    The PS did say that after I am all healed we will discuss about stage 2. So at least I will be getting some of the cosmetic issues dealt with so at least thats a plus.

  • cider8
    cider8 Member Posts: 832
    edited April 2012

    Tammy, though I didn't have a bulge after Stage 1 ( I had the barrel upper belly), I found the abdominal strengthening exercises from PT immensely helpful. I was shocked at how weak my abdominal muscles were. My PT had to reteach me how to use the most internal muscles. Because of the numbness the brain has to learn a new pathway for the correct movement. And it happens quickly! I feel like all the physical therapy I did set me up for a good result from Stage 2, in regard to my abdomen. I ask my PT questions all the time to understand better. I think you are headed in the right direction. I hope the scans go well tomorrow.

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