April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012
    barbyjean- Thanks for the encouraging words.  I'm scheduled to start April 24-- 6 rounds every 3 weeks of Taxotere & Cytoxan.  Glad you shared your personal experience since it helps all of us, especially me.
  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    Hi velutha! Lol, I was doing the dance for Melrose but still count myself lucky that I only had my drains for less than 2 weeks. I almost chucked all my "drain supplies" before thinking I'll probably need to hang onto them for recon. I'm still kinda liking the "freedom" of being flat and not needing a bra. Frankly I'm still too sore to wear one anyway.



    Thanks for all the input on scarves. That's one item I haven't bought yet. My coworkers got me some bandanas with the care package but I think they won't be all that comfy over a bare head. I did ask my mom to order me a cap for sleeping.



    Yeahhh... like others I figured short hair would be easier to lose. My boys do their own hair and their dad's, and they said they'll buzz it off for me when it starts to go.



    I saw a post from someone who said she didn't lose the hair on her legs. What a bummer! If we have to lose our head hair, lashes and brows then all that unwanted stuff better go with it! I just had to buy an electric shaver and finally managed to shave my left pit -but it will be nice not to have to do that for awhile, at least.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    Melrose, not the same day but close! Sounds like you got everything taken care of. Here we go....

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012

    IndigoMont11 - Here we go is right!!!!!!  We are lucky to have found each other early on and still together through this trip to chemoland.  My oncologist told me I may not lose leg hair.  Oh joy....

    My hubby is getting a exercise bike for me this weekend since walking may not be possible for me with all of my allergies.  It starts getting hot around here in May and the idea of walking out in the heat and humidity just doesn't appeal to me.  Got to have a way to exercise and work off the stress and chemo.

    It is a little weird to look down and see flatness on the left side of my chest and not so flat on the right side.  Fortunately, I can go braless.  I have to admit I started crying in the car today while my DH and I were leaving the hospital parking garage.  It kind of came on suddenly and I couldn't explain at the time why I started crying.  A dear friend of mine told me that it was because since mid February, I have been going strong and staying focused on what I was doing with doctors, tests, surgeries, etc and it was time to release whatever needed to come out.  I think she is right.  I am fine now but a good boo hoo never hurts.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited April 2012

    HI.  Just got my oncotype results (27--high side of intermediate) and met with the BS and looks like I will be starting chemo as well.   My apt. with the MO is on Monday. I was hoping (as we all do) for just radiation as my son is getting married in September.  This is making me so nervous.  I am glad to know others share in my anxiety about this upcoming "train ride".  Thanks, ladies!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    Hi kjiberty! Glad to meet you. Hang on... bumpy ride no doubt but we'll do it!



    One of the ladies in tbe March chemo thread posted that she imagined her cancer yelling "oh nooooooo!" when the chemo came to evict it (makes me think of the Mucinex commercials). Love that.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    OK, I did it - cut my hair like Michelle Williams. I wasn't even traumatized and I actually love it. Hopefully get to enjoy it for 3 weeks!



  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012
    IndigoMont11- Time for a party pic of your new do!!!!!!!!!  So glad you love it!!!!!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    Hi all,

    Low white count can be increased with neulasta or neupogen. I had to ask my oncologist for it when my whites dropped low enough to delay tx (you don't want that--no use prolonging chemo!) one week.  From then on I got one or the other and had no problems.

    It's true, everyone has different experiences on chemo. My worst days were the night OF chemo and the following 36 hours afterward. After that I rebounded pretty quickly.  

    My worst AC infusion was also the 3rd out of DD 4, like velutha posted.  However, taxol was pretty easy for me; lots of the SE I had with AC went away on Taxol.  

    As for infusion time--remember that unless you've had labs drawn the day before (I didn't) that has to be done first, then read. You may have to wait to see your oncologist. Then she/he has to approve your premeds and chemo (every time).  The premeds can take about 20-30", and depending on the cocktail combo, it may take 3 hours after that for infusion. Plan on devoting most or all of your day to chemo and don't  be in a hurry.  Sometimes my chemo nurses were pretty busy as there could be multiples of other patients getting chemo at the same time as I was...bring your computer, books, music, etc. And drink lots of water!  Lots of it that day and the day after.

    My leg hair and arm hair disappeared about the same time my pubes and head hair started to go. Everything has recovered but my leg hair, which is growing much more slowly than the other places.  My eyebrows/lashes thinned a lot on Taxol, but I had AC before that and didn't lose any.

    Weird though, for about 5 months I would get in the shower every day and then wonder what I was supposed to do in thereWink Nothing to shave, no hair to worry about.

    Claire

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    Hi Claire! I've been told to get my labs the morning before - one more good thing about Kaiser, I can do it at my local clinic and the info goes straight to the onc. I take it that premeds are things like antinausea meds? Does it seem like pretty much everyone gets steroids? Anyway, I think they said the first treatment would take more than 2 hours, but the rest should be just about 2 hours. I'm taking water, snacks, my Nook - and my oldest son, who doesn't have class.



    I'm wondering how it will be with no port; onc nurse advised me to do tx #1 without and if a port looks like the way to go, they'll do it later. On the one hand, my upper chest is still really sensitive after my BMX, and I decided I'd had enough surgical procedures at this point. On the other hand, all my IVs have to be in the same hand, and all the lab sticks in the same arm.



    I have my chemo class on Monday - but all your feedback is so helpful. I have made a list of questions but never seem to think of everything at the right time when in the presence of the medical professionals. Thanks!

  • LyndaMarie
    LyndaMarie Member Posts: 92
    edited April 2012

    So I woke up this morning and it was about 5 minutes before I remembered that I had my first chemo treatment yesterday. I felt fine. Hard to imagine.

    I have had some weird tastes in my mouth, chills and took some rest time to snuggle with my daughter and watch a little cupcake wars this afternoon but all in all I have felt good. I can only hope it stays this easy. I know that is not likely but it has been a good beginning.

    Hope everybody is doing well!!!

  • LyndaMarie
    LyndaMarie Member Posts: 92
    edited April 2012

    Indigo - I do have to say that I love my port. I am difficult to stick, not great veins. The last two IVs took two tries each and on the last one (the one for getting the port) they tried my wrist and hit a nerve. Misery ensued. Still have tingling up my arm. That said, I have not had surgery yet so I suspect that made it easier. Just the idea that I don't have to get stuck again for the next 6 months made it all worth while.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012

    Claire - Thanks for the info.  Always good to have an idea of what to expect since it helps me formulate questions to ask about the infusion process.  Glad I have already received all of my prescriptions drugs and EMLA cream so I can calendar the days of when I need to take what drug and when and how to use the EMLA cream on my port before I leave home..  As always, thanks for coming back here to ease the way for us!!!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    HI all,

    Yes, premeds are anti-nausea. Pretty much everyone gets steroids of some kind, but my doc likes to go conservative on tx so I only had decadron in my IV-port the day of.  Others on this list have to take them the night before, etc. Remember, you can always refuse...but I seriously did not notice any adverse effects of the steroids. It's a low dose; I was worried about moon face and weight gain and neither happened at all. It was harder to sleep that first night though.

    Someone asked about cold caps. the penguin ones are pretty expensive and insurance won't cover. Others have used elastagel caps which are less expensive. You can search these boards and get more info. I didn't have the $$ for either so my hair fell out. I'm kind of glad that I had that experience, since I got to find out that I look pretty darn good in short hair.  I never had worn it that way before, but it'scertainly easier than my pre- b.c. shoulder length do and I may just keep it this way...an older version of Michelle Williams (just kidding, I wish!--the hair, ladies just the hair!).

    I also never used numbing cream for my port; instead, the nurses just used a cold spray before hooking me up. It never hurt.  

    I loved my port and weirdly enough I asked my surgeon to let me keep it when he took it out last week, so he gave it to me Smile

  • SadeSurvivor25
    SadeSurvivor25 Member Posts: 119
    edited April 2012

    Indigo, I have Kaiser as well and was told to get my labs done the morning before. It's weird how we can have so many questions before hand but once we get there we can't remember any of them lol. I have a port and I didn't feel anything during my first infusion....not even a pinch. I was there for about 2 hours and had 3 people there with me. I brought my Kindle Fire along but didn't get to use it because we were too busy watching tv. The time flew by. I wish you the best and hope everything goes well.

  • velutha
    velutha Member Posts: 102
    edited April 2012

    I get to go fly fishing next month!  Thanks to Casting For Recovery!  : )  Going 2 days after my port is removed, my surgeon said it's ok.

    I think it would annoy me if I had to go the day before for counts.  Like going in for chemo isn't enough.  My MO has a lab in her office, they run the counts while setting up the premeds, etc.  My a/c infusions took most of the day, b/c they ran it SLOW to avoid nausea (I was there 5-6hours).  Taxol is more like 2 hours for everything, as it only takes an hour to run.  

    Taxol is a lot better than a/c, but I don't feel normal.  I'm still anemic, so I get tired/breathless easily.  There are little SEs that annoy me -my nose is raw from months of no hair, so I have more postnasal drip and little nosebleeds.  My nails look ok, but they are tender.  But my hair is starting to regrow -my leg hair was the first to come back!  

     Port or not: There have been studies looking at risk/benefit of a mediport in cancer pts.  Your MO should be making that decision with you based on that data.  Having a port is not risk-free, but then, blowing all your veins with lots of IVs isn't a good idea either.  For my MO, 4 treatments is usually ok w/o, you get up to 6, then that's the point at which you should talk about a port.

  • nfranklin
    nfranklin Member Posts: 119
    edited April 2012

    I had my first Taxol last Monday, will have my second treatment tomorrow at 4:30 pm. I don't have a port yet either. I also have to use the same arm for everything, and was stuck twice when they took blood and also when they started the IV. We will see what happens tomorrow. Had no SE's to really speak of, hunger from the steriods and tiredness I guess from the Taxol , but all and all pretty good week.

  • AnnieJohn
    AnnieJohn Member Posts: 8
    edited April 2012

    Chemo class today and Annie's first T/C treatment tomorrow...we are putting together a list of items for a kit, anything out of the norm that is a mist have??

  • sandik
    sandik Member Posts: 482
    edited April 2012

    Here getting my MUGA scan. 1st injection is in. Waiting for 2nd.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012

    Sandik- Glad to hear from you.  I'm having more pre-chemo lab work this morning and an echocardiogram with afternoon.  Fun day, right?  How's the new pup?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    One more tip, ladies--

    If you were, as I was, frustrated with keeping all my family and friends up to date on my condition, tx plan, etc. you might think about using caringbridge.org

    It's a nonprofit, free website where you can easily create an individual online journal for yourself that anyone you invite can visit to see how you are doing. You post an entry, they all get notifications that you've posted an update, and they can read anything you feel like sharing...and you only have to tell the story once.

    You can also post photos, etc. And they can send you messages of encouragement or whatever by signing an online guestbook.

    I've been using it since Oct and it's been invaluable to me. Saves me from having to answer multiple phone calls when I'm not up to sharing the latest news over and over, or having to answer emails with the same story over and over...sometimes simply talking about the latest would get me upset, but writing it down once for everyone to read when they can really helped me cope iwthout getting frustrated or worn out.

  • SadeSurvivor25
    SadeSurvivor25 Member Posts: 119
    edited April 2012

    Thanks Claire! I get so tired of talking about it and it sometimes I get pissed off . My husband has told family and friends to just come to him if they wanna know something. It really does get annoying after a while.

  • klepine
    klepine Member Posts: 24
    edited April 2012

    Sitting here at the Cancer center getting 2nd treatment. Wondering if my hair will start to fall out this time?

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited April 2012

    Klepine I have my 2nd treatment a week from now.  My hair is expected to start falling out tomorrow.  The first wig I bought did not make me  happy it looked lke an old lady "wig" on.  Today I found a more natural looking wig and felt MUCH better, I have a small supply of scarves and one hat too for home and around town.  I find myself tugging at my hair to check on it.  It's just SO weird that it's going to fall out.

    Thanks Claire I did just that with an ongoing note on my facebook.  It does help to not have to answer questions.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    Hi all! 

    Annie and John - go to the Tips and Checklist post in this forum if you haven't already.  I'm counting down to treatment #1 so I can't say I know much from experience, but I thought that was a great resource.  I am probably getting some Lemonheads too!

    I have been using Caring Bridge since Claire first recommended it about a month ago, and I really like it, too.  It's a lot less "in your face" than Facebook, for me.  My friends and family really seem to like/appreciate it.

    Sandik, everyone had told me the MUGA scan was a piece of cake compared to pretty much everything else we've been through so far - and after mine on Friday, I would tend to agree.  I hope yours was "no big thing" too!

    I had my chemo class this a.m. and honestly, I could have skipped it the class itself.  But the nurse did answer a few more questions that I had thought of, that I preferred to ask before the day of!  One other interesting thing she mentioned since we've had a lot of back-and-forth about ports or not - she said that nobody else can do needle sticks or BPs on my left arm - but that THEY in oncology can.  She said this when I mentioned I was debating about a port because my right arm will have to get stuck all the time.  She also said that they don't generally jump at doing ports unless it looks like treatment will be extended over more than 6 months, which mine should not be, but again, if for whatever reason a port looks like the way to go, they'll do it before my second treatment.

    Hmmm, about doing the sticks on the "special" arm, right?   I wasn't all that impressed with her claim.  So even if they don't do BP checks on it, they still will have to put a tourniquet on it for any kind of needle stick.  Unless there is some kind of unforeseen problem or emergency, I do not care what she said and I am standing fast with not letting them use that arm.  So far, except for continuing pain and some swelling in my armpit, I don't have any signs of lymphedema and I want to keep it that way.  

    Whatcha think?

    I also asked her if I could get a listing showing all of the medications I'll be getting each treatment and she said, no problem.  I kept thinking about the ladies who said they were given Ativan - one of whom said nobody told her and she drove herself home.  So far, I have not had huge issues with anxiety and haven't taken anything other than Ambien for the sleep problems I've had, so maybe it's unlikely I'd get Ativan, but at least one poster said she was told they administered it for nausea.  I figure, better safe than sorry.  

    Look Good Feel Better class was this p.m.  I was the one and only "student" there.  Very nice people and it was fun to get a bunch of free swag!  I didn't care for all of the products - sorry, not doing purple lipliner, lol - and I think I'll stick with my mineral foundation.  But - I did love the eyebrow powder pencil.  I do still have eyebrows but my right one has been tweezed to the point of disappearing from the middle of my brow to the narrow end, and this stuff looks even better than the Bare Minerals powder I've been using for the last while.  Makeupwise, I really didn't learn much else new because I'm such a makeup girl already. Still, like I said, it was fun to get a bunch of high-end free stuff - and most of it was full size.  I hadn't yet gotten a new face sunblock and my kit came with a full-size Clinique City Block, for one thing.  

    I did get a lot more out of the part of the lesson about wearing scarves.  I never even wear bandanas and I didn't really have a clue how to tie anything.  I loved the T-shirt wrap idea - now I want to go buy some cheap T-shirts in pretty colors and get ready for summer.  For anyone not living in Colorado, it actually does get hot enough here for air conditioning in the summer, and this one will probably be hotter than usual, judging by the spring - so I don't see myself wearing the wigs at home a whole lot.  

    I think I'll get one more mani-pedi this week before Friday.   Smile

    Wishing everyone this week minimal SEs.  Hugs and purple energy coming your way!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012

    Had my blood lab work and echocardiogram today.  That was fun.  I actually have a free day tomorrow-- no doctors; no tests.  I may just drive myself to do a little shopping close to home.  It will be the first time I have driven since my UMX in mid March.

    I have my chemo prescriptions already so I am wriiting on my chemo calendar when I need to take them.  I also made up some forms to help me keep track of my meds, my blood counts and side effects.  I know I'm sure to forget something if I don't write things down.  My DH and I went shopping the other day.  I got three more Buff headscarves to wear.  They are the same brand as the contestants on Survivor (reality tv show) wear.  IndigoMont11- what do you have to do to make t-shirts into head scarves?  I thought about getting t-shirts since they are always so nice and comfy.  You might check out a craft store like Michaels- they always have colorful t-shirts there!

    Hope everyone has a great week and minimal SE's.  Got my big girl boots on and heading to my chemo date next Tuesday.  Lots of (((HUGS)))  and positive calming & healing prayers, thoughts and energy!!!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    That's the spirit, Melrose!  I'm getting a little more nervous as the day approaches, but I keep telling myself, our sisters are doing it so why not me???  I keep thinking maybe I should eat my favorite foods these next few days in case they no longer taste good after Friday.... so I've probably gained back at least some of the weight I was happy I'd lost....

    At the LGFB website, they have a little diagram how to do the T-shirt wrap, but basically, you cut the top part of the shirt off below the sleeves so you just have a tube.  I'm thinking a boxy shirt probably would be best rather than a fitted one but it probably doesn't matter too much.  Anyway, you put the bottom (finished) edge, not the cut edge, on your head so that it lines up with your forehead, and twist the back until you have a ropy looking part in the back.  Then you just wrap that forward around your head.  I know, you probably don't have a clue from this explanation - I didn't either - so I'd suggest you take a look at the LGFB site if you can't get to a class.  : 

  • LisaG65
    LisaG65 Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2012

    so glad to hear that i am not the only one who is tried of talking about me having cancer :) i have been sending friends phone calls straight to voice mail, but you can only do that for so long :) 

  • LisaG65
    LisaG65 Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2012

    i had nuepogen shots tue/weds/thurs/fri last week. today was the first day i really didnt have to go anywhere that related to cancer :) tomorrow go in to check my white cells count to know where i stand. then i might be lucky and not have to go back until the 24th for 2nd of 6 infusions. maybe a week of normalcy?! gosh i hope so. i have been spending a couple hours a day at the beach, sitting right in the sand, today i was blessed to see a family of dolphins out searching for breakfast. was very peaceful. i have been making myself take a walk down the shore also....my hair is actually growing since taking it down to a #1 easter sunday. i am sure it wont be long before it starts to thin its 13 days since my first TCH. the tumor i found is starting to shrink. i felt it today and was like wow its smaller!!

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited April 2012

    I made a daily checklist and a bunch of copies that I used for a week post chemo. It was as specific as "get up, take AM meds, check 1/3 water drank" etc. I was worried I'd be too sick to remember it and was so glad to not have to remember it all. I also made a list of meals breakdast, lunch and dinner and had every ingredient in the house. These were individual healthy meals and snacks for me. I wasn't able to eat the fish as planned but am having it for my good weeks. I put all meds on a closet shelf and filled a 7 dayer for my dailies. I packed relief supplies in my purse and chemo bag. Oh yea. I labeled meds with a marker by SE "nausea" "contipation". Those big letters kept me from having to read small print during the night twice ( :

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