Factors that promote hair growth?

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gojojo21
gojojo21 Member Posts: 10
edited June 2014 in Life After Breast Cancer
Alright so I'm over three months past my last round of chemo which was Dec 22.  I have been anxiously awaiting the growth of my hair, holding on to hope and the words of encouragement from folks about the women that they knew who grew back such thick, plush, healthy hair.  Being on Herceptin, I had some concerns about the possibility that it could slow hair growth having heard cautionary tales from others and in reading blogs but I tried to chalk it up to hearsay.  However, on my last day of rads I met a lady who had finished chemo a week after me and had a head full of hair!  This really started to concern me.  So once again I took to the web reading blogs and seeing stories from other women who described the same struggles as me, which was that the hair at the crown of the head was growing back sparse.  However rather than postulating what factors may be contributing to slow hair growth I would like to hear from women who have had a positive experience with their hair growth and examine what factors may have helped the process.  This would include health of hair before treatment (such as was hair regularly chemically treated/colored, etc.), chemo cocktail they were on, post chemo meds (i.e. Tamoxifen, Herceptin, etc.) if any, special diets (i.e. high protein, vegetables, etc.), regular use of a wig afterwards or not, vitamins used (i.e. Biotin, etc.), use of medicated shampoos (i.e. Rogaine/Minoxidil, Nioxin, etc.).

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  • lilylady
    lilylady Member Posts: 1,079
    edited April 2012

     I finished Chemo (TCH X 6) last July. Stopped herceptin in Jan-and I still have barely 3/4" of hair. I had a huge thick fast growing beautiful head of hair before!. I have used the Biotin, done massages, used special shampoos ect. I have gotten so frustrated I quit going to the hair hair hair thread-couldn;t take it anymore!!

      My head is completely covered-a few kind of pink spots so I guess I am grateful for that. Not sure there is any advice out there to make it grow any faster,

  • gojojo21
    gojojo21 Member Posts: 10
    edited April 2012

    Lilylady, well we may not get any miracle answers resulting from this thread but at least we know there are others that feel our pain! lol, it is so hard because you try to keep a positive spirit, keep chugging on, trying different things that might possibly help but i think the reality is our lives will be forever changed and that is the hardest part to accept.  I am like you, I had TCH and had a head full of beautiful hair before.  Biotin doesn't seem to be making a difference except maybe to help promote hair in all the wrong places ;p I'm trying Minoxidil now so we'll see.  I was told don't even bother with Nioxin.  I want to focus on my diet because I have always struggled with eating poorly.  Also wondering if wearing a wig on a regular basis affects hair growth versus women who go au naturale.  I also used to regularly dye my hair before all this, particularly getting highlights at the crown of my head.

  • ladyboss1997
    ladyboss1997 Member Posts: 202
    edited April 2012

    I finished 4 rounds of TC on 9/22/11. I was bald as a baby's behind. Prior to chemo I had alot of hair - just normal, not particularly thick. No curls. I also had been highlighting my hair for 18 years.

    I used Biotin throughout chemo, and still take it. I started using Ovation Therapy on 10/15, and I am still using it. My hair has come back thick and a little wavy. Some gray. I have decided not to highlight it again, and I plan to wear it short. I am very pleased with my thick soft hair.        

  • gojojo21
    gojojo21 Member Posts: 10
    edited April 2012

    Ladyboss-I have never heard of Ovation Therapy.  I think I will have to be ordering that, like today! =) Its interesting to note that you are HER2- so you have not had to be subjected to Herceptin.  Didn't even think to take the Biotin during chemo, so maybe not enough time has passed for it to work its magic.  Thanks for the feedback!

  • gojojo21
    gojojo21 Member Posts: 10
    edited April 2012

    That is what my hope is.  I saw my oncologist last week and expressed to her my frustrations.  She indicated to me that three months post chemo is about the norm that hair begins to grow.  So maybe that lady with all the hair was just a freak of nature lol.  I just cant help but to worry given that there is a noticeable difference with the hair at the top of my head.  Maybe we are being overly eager.  Look on the brighter side at least you don't have to worry about having to be on Herceptin and the possible side effect although i've heard varying reactions to Tamoxifen.  I'm right here with ya sista!

    I know we should be thankful for having our lives when others are fighting the battle, but its easier said than done when you have to recover from breast cancer treatment.  We are entitled to our upsets.  No one really knows until they've walked a day in our shoes. And I guess we can postulate all day long but it doesn't hurt to hope and keep trying right? 

    To all the lucky ladies who have had a good hair response after chemo, we need to hear from you.  What have you done, what has helped?

  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited April 2012

    My hair took forever to come in - I'm on Herceptin and I think that slowed it.  I had male pattern baldness forever - went topless at five months PFC, which was probably one month too soon.  Since then, I believe my hair has come in slightly thicker than before.  I never had particularly thick hair to begin with, so I am always interested in anything that will stimulate hair growth.

    I am taking biotin, glucosamine/chondroitin with MSM (supposed to be good for hair.)

     I am using Gromedi Hair Treatment from Bioken and Hair Growth Treatment from SeaChi. (SeaChi offers monthly coupons - PM me if you want me to send you the code for the next one I get.) I wash my hair about twice a week with a sulfate-free shampoo.  Nioxin has all kinds of sulfates and parabens, so I don't use it. 

     I do yoga as many days as I can and when I don't do yoga, I make sure to do an inverted stretch - I read that increasing the blood flow to your scalp can help hair growth.

     I drink a morning smoothie with a protein mix every morning within an hour of getting up - when you don't have protein first thing in the morning, your body turns to other sources to get protein.  What does it choose?  Your hair, skin, and nails.  I am also adding (per recommendation from evebarry, 1 Tbsp of ground chia seed and 1.5 Tbsp of ground flaxseed to my  morning smoothie.  I try to get at least 60 grams of protein a day - your hair is 90% protein.  I don't eat meat or dairy, but do well with protein mixes (in the morning), wild fish, organic eggs, beans, and tempeh.  

    I don't drink or smoke - both are VERY bad for your hair. 

    I exercise (walking) every day and I meditate.  Reducing stress levels is important for hair growth.

    OK, that's my strategy. Good luck! 

  • Shrek4
    Shrek4 Member Posts: 1,822
    edited March 2013
  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited April 2012

    I had color treated (to cover gray) and highlighted fine, waist length hair prior to chemo.  I cut it very short (very much like Suze Orman) prior to chemo.  It did not fall out until after the 2nd TCH, my MO was quite surprised.  I buzzed it on day 24, but I never went completely bald and had to shave legs all through chemo.  At the completion of TC my hair did not grow back nearly as quickly as a couple of my friends who started TCH the same week as me, we all finished chemo in June of 2011.  I had sparse, thin and very uneven coverage for a couple of months.  My hairdresser told me to start Biotin a month after chemo ended - she said it would do no good and be a waste of money to take it any sooner as it would be counteracted by the chemo and its residue any sooner than that.  I also started using the 4-step Bosley products (shampoo, conditioner, leave in conditioner and leave in growth stimulant), I liked the ingredient list better than Nioxin.  I was continuing on Herceptin all during this time, and finished it in Jan. 2012.  My hair finally filled in, with the very front being the last for total coverage.  I went without my wig in late Sept, early Oct. of 2011.  My hair growth rate and nail growth rate have normalized and I have a full head of hair growing at the rate it did prior to chemo.  I have cut it about 6 times since it started to grow back, I have colored and highlighted again as well.  It has grown back straight and with the same basic texture it had prior to chemo.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited April 2012

    I was bald on 9/28/2011 when I finished chemo.  I now have a full head of hair that is between 2 and 3 inches long.  I did nothing to "help" it grow.  I really believe it's somewhat genetic.  I have always had fast-growing hair, since I was an infant.  Go back and look at your baby pictures.  Were you a bald baby or did you have a lot of hair from the time you were born?  I think it makes a difference, but it's just my theory.

    And check out the Hair, hair, hair discussion thread!  Lots of pictures and discussion about post-chemo hair.

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited April 2012

    What is Biotin?

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited April 2012

    momof3 - it is a hair, skin and nails supplement, you can find it in the drug store or grocery store in the vitamin section.

  • Maghery721
    Maghery721 Member Posts: 68
    edited April 2012

    My hair prior to BC was colored brunette (I was born blond and used to color my blond hair a lot and used to get perms in my teenage years - it was the 80's, what can I say!!). The texture was baby fine with a slight wave in my hair. I decided to cut my hair short (not a buzz cut though) to prepare myself mentally for when the time came. I began noticing it coming out steadily about 2 days before my 2nd treatment so I beat it to the punch and had my wig lady give me a buzz cut. It was very emotional but it wasn't as bad as i thought it was going to be.  I only wear my wig to work (it must be a pretty good wig b/c I got a number of compliments on my "new hairdo" from people at work who do not know my circumstances). All other times I wear headscarves when I am outside. I love the head scarves. So I finished chemo on 12/29. I did a regimen of ACT (4 AC first and then 4 T tx) and began herceptin on 12/2 (and getting it every 3 weeks). I dont do any special diets, I take iron and D3 supplements and a multivitamin but I was taking these b/f BC. By the end of January my head was completely covered with hair albeit like a buzz cut. By the end of March it was at a point where I was almost comfortable enough that I thought about going out w/o a headscarf (it was just a thought though!). I would tell you that it has gotten even longer but I ended up shaving it!!  Long story but for a good cause - St. Baldrick's (foundation raising money for childhood cancer). I've seen a number of comments where women mention that their hair has come back curly - but like kinky curly. I'm not opposed to curly hair, and no offense to anyone with kinky curls, but I hope I do not get kinky curls. I would love to get straight hair back but I'm not holding my breath.  Hope this info helps in some way.

  • Maghery721
    Maghery721 Member Posts: 68
    edited April 2012

    Thx robo, really surprised myself that I did it! I know I wouldn't have done it with a full head of hair. Afterwards I thought to myself how funny it would have been if I had my wig on and sat in the chair and pulled it off before the shave? That would have been hysterical!!

  • gojojo21
    gojojo21 Member Posts: 10
    edited April 2012

    Thank you, thank you, thank you ladies.  This really helps give me some direction as far as some things I can try.  Plus I have hope once again.  I think bottom line is that just a few months PFC is premature to make a determination about our hair and that we really have to give it some time.  HOWEVER, i have to admit that I am somewhat confused as to what products I should invest in such as whether to use Ovation therapy, Bosley, Seachi, Gerovital, Bioken etc and what supplements really do work.  I wish there was a website comparing reviews or listing the best or whether they really work at all or if its really in our minds =-/

  • shera
    shera Member Posts: 184
    edited June 2012

    My hair has always grown faster in the summer...  assumed it has to do with sun exposure. I am 2months and 3 days from my last tx (May 2,2012) and I have enough hair to go without a hat, I can pinch and pull it between my fingers. I hated wearing wigs... so went with a hat or halo... and sat bald in the sun whenever I could. I wonder if those of you who ended treatment in the winter... are experiencing slower growth simply because its winter (depending on where you live and how much sun expusure you're getting).

    This is the one thing I've done from the beginning and regularly (sun exposure).

    Other things I've done and am doing -- started taking biotin a few weeks ago; began using nioxin for 2 weeks - only shampoo every 3rd day - but use the leave-in spray daily; taking vit E, taking a multi with iron, taking hot yoga classes... and lastly... visualizing myself with hair and allowing myself to believe its growing fast! 

    Go out an get some sun --- 15 minutes a day won't burn ya :)

    (BTW.. I was a very bald baby for months... so that rules out bald babies = slower growth)

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