Looking for bilateral LE help and suggestions

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ChrisNM
ChrisNM Member Posts: 47
edited June 2014 in Lymphedema

Hi ladies-

I had hoped never to join you here, but after a bilateral mastectomy for my second primary IDC, and despite doing the arm exercises suggested and keeping things elevated, I am struggling with LE in both arms.  It is worse in my left, where I had radiation following lumpectomy in 2008, and where more nodes had to be removed because my sentinel node had already been taken.  I started off overweight, and I know that didn't help.  But now I have swelling in both arms.  We are sort of doing MLD on both sides, pushing towards the middle front and back (though a complete hysterectomy at same time as bilaterals made the tummy sore, too.) We are using compression wraps on left, with possibility of wrapping right after left is "under control", whatever that means, and in a compression sleeve/glove.

Any of you out there with bilaterals and LE problems in both arms?  If so, what was your plan, how did it work, and how long did you deal with it?  And how did you deal with the whole thing?  I have a strong faith that God is in control even of this trial, but the day-to-day living in this situation is a bit overwhelming. Any suggestions, advice, or encouragement would be appreciated.

Also, if any of you have had success in getting the insurance to cover your bandages/compression garments, I'd love to hear about how you did that.  Thanks.

Chris in NM

DX 4-2008, stage 1 IDC Left, ER/PR+, Lumpectomy, SNB (clear) 26 rads, tamoxifen

DX 12-2011, stage 1 IDC Right, ER/PR+, double mastectomy, complete hysterectomy, arimidex, and now LE on both sides

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  • kcshreve
    kcshreve Member Posts: 1,148
    edited April 2012

    ((((Chris)))) I well remember the crazy feeling I had when first working through all the new LE procedures. It was overwhelming and I was often discouraged.  It does get better, but it tends to come and go in severity for many of us.  I have confirmed LE in my right arm, but not my left.  However, my left non-LE arm is often very effected - it just seems to balance itself a bit better, so that's why it's not officially LE on that arm.  I've recently been working with a new therapist who is more aggressive in the lower abdominal drainage, and I've found that to be surprisingly helpful.  Maybe it can help you, too.  In addition to my existing MLD work, he has me working the abdominal area 2 ways - breathing, and massaging.  The breathing starts with a very strong exhale, which includes tight kegels to fully compress and hold.  To inhale, I'm to simply release all tension and allow breath to come in, then fully inhale.  Repeat many times.  The massaging component is done deeply in the triangle between the hip bones and the belly button, as well as over my scar, as I had a DIEP recon with a scar that runs side seam to side seam.  Those deep nodes are the core of our body's drainage, so massaging and stimulating them can help the other areas drain more effectively.  MLD is light pressure, but this that I'm describing in the lower abdomen is very firm and deep.  This therapist has also suggested rolling a tennis ball deeply and repeatedly over/into that lower abdominal area since my hands tire.  At first I thought this seemed odd, but it has added one more helpful layer for me.  I have mild LE, but it's not always well controlled and seems to change for no reason.  When it flares I'm a big crab, so my family is happier the fewer flares I have.  It seems by working the lower abdominal area, my arms look smaller for awhile.  That's just been my experience so far.  I don't believe this is documented in research, so this is just personal experience.  I've had no success with insurance whatsoever, but others here have.

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited April 2012

    Chris, welcome! We're glad you found us, but really sorry you had to.Frown I sent you a Private Message. 

    Be well!
    Binney

  • BeckySharp
    BeckySharp Member Posts: 935
    edited April 2012

    Chris--I only have LE in one arm so cannot help you on the bilateral.  But I am sorry you have to join us-but welcome!  I am sure Binney has given you some sage advice.  It will get better.  Hang in there.  Becky

  • ChrisNM
    ChrisNM Member Posts: 47
    edited April 2012

    Thanks so much ladies- you are being a life-line for me!

    Chris

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