Tamoxifen, it's not all bad is it?

Stormynyte
Stormynyte Member Posts: 650

I know there are already 1000's of posts on Tamoxifen, but this one I would like to be different. There are many many posts telling about the horrible SE it can cause. I would like to go the other way with this one.

There is a thread that has been bothering me about people who turned down Tamoxifen, many because they were worried about the SE's. (I am in no way saying that it is a bad choice to opt out, don't take me wrong here.)  When something works without problems, we don't seem to mention it as often as we do something that isn't going well. If I had read some of the posts here before I started taking it, I would have been pretty scared of it.

I would love to hear from people who have taken Tamoxifen and not had terrible SE's, just to put my mind to rest that the info is out there.

You never know until you try..

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  • Mzmerz
    Mzmerz Member Posts: 1,054
    edited January 2015

    My biggest SE was occasionally waking up nauseated.  The other thing it did was make my face oily and my hair greasy.  Oh and I notice since I have been off of it, my heart does not race as much.  Other than that, it was tolerable.  Good luck.

    Amy 

  • shaah2468
    shaah2468 Member Posts: 72
    edited April 2012

    I was on Tamoxifen for 18 months with no negative side effects at all.  I did post on another thread that it did increase my libido and could think of nothing else but sex.  Tamoxifen worked wonders on my cancer during that time but suddenly just stopped unfortunately.

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited April 2012

    I never had any problem with it either. I've run, exercised, carried on my daily life.  They did try to switch me to an AI once and that was terrible!  So they put me back on tamoxifen.  I'm happy.

    Charley

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited April 2012

    hi Stormynyte, I've been on tamox nearly two years, since July 2010, and no big problems.

    Crepe-y dry skin and some issues with my eyes that may be heredity or may be the tamox.

    It's hard to lose weight on tamox but with good nutrition and daily exercise, I've dropped 25 lbs since March 2010.  Ten more and I'll weigh what it says on my drivers license lol.

    My mom was one of the first people to take tamox 30 years ago when it first came out.  She took it for the full five years without major issues, so that's what I intend to do if possible.

  • alison34
    alison34 Member Posts: 138
    edited April 2012

    i haven't had any issues with tamoxifen

    i am due to have my ovaries taken out in 2 weeks so will be going on a arimidex just hope they are as good to me as tamoxifen

    Alison

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited April 2012

    I've been on tamoxifen for two months now, but only 1/2 the recommended dose of 20 mg.  I wanted my body to adjust to it before increasing the dose.  So far, the only SE's I've had are hot flashes, and they could be caused from going off my BHRT.  Sometimes I'm a little tired, but that's about it.

    Oh...I did have a little breakout on my face, but that has cleared up.

    My MO said it is a very good drug because it protects from recurrence and prevents spread.  It also protects heart and bones.  What it does is attach to the receptors in the breast and when the cancer cells come along they are tricked into thinking those receptors are already taken, so they die off for lack of energy to survive. 

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited April 2012

    It has not been that bad for me either.  I had chemo and then started tammi a month or so after chemo ended.  Chemo put me into chemopause with hot flashes and night sweats.  They continued and got a bit worse on tammi but I take effexor and now they are minimal.  I was tired the first few weeks on tammi but that seemed to level off.  I don't feel it any more.  I have less interest in being intimate but it is not out of the question or painful or anything else like that.  Overall I am OK with being on tammi.  I am very glad I have something to continue to fight the potential recurrence. 

  • profbee
    profbee Member Posts: 858
    edited April 2012

    I've been pretty SE-free on Tamoxifen.  I get the "warm" flashes sometimes...not hot, just suddenly warm.  And I may be a bit more stiff than usual after sitting for a while, but I really can't complain.  Well worth it to me!!

  • dobie
    dobie Member Posts: 424
    edited April 2012

    I opted not to take Tamoxifen first time around but now with 2nd dx I think I will.  Concerned that 3 strikes and I'll be out!  When I discussed my concerns with Rad Onc, she advised trying Accupuncture for side effects. She actually published a study done with BC survivors on Tam.  which showed, decreased hot flashes, depression and increased libido with accupuncture. Havent started yet so can't report personally.

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited April 2012

    I also went into chemopause and had hot flashes and night sweats that would wake me up for the first year, year and a half.  It gets better.  Night sweats are all but gone now and HF's are down to just a few a day.  Love my hand-held folding fan(s) and keep one handy at all times, just in case.  Got one in my purse and one in my desk drawer at work.

    My libido is OK but I had to fight my onc to keep my ovaries.  I finally agreed to take the BRCA gene test and said I'd consider an ooph if positive.  It was negative so end of discussion.  Keep me on the tam another three years then we'll talk.

  • rn4babies
    rn4babies Member Posts: 409
    edited April 2012

    I have been on Tamoxifen since February 1st. I honestly can say I almost didn't take it after reading all of the horrible side effects some women posted. The only SE I have noticed is the occasional hot flash. Just a flushing of my face, really. I was really worried about weight gain but I have actually lost about 10 pounds since starting it without reallly trying. My mother and my aunt both took it for 5 years without any SE's whatsoever. Since I have a new primary which was dx'd only a month after starting it, I am as vigilant as ever with taking it every day. I'll do anything at this point to keep this BC from happening for the 3rd time!

  • Wendyspet
    Wendyspet Member Posts: 246
    edited April 2012

    Just some hot flashes at night to start with.  Now they have decreased. Nothing else that I can tell.

  • CoolBreeze
    CoolBreeze Member Posts: 4,668
    edited April 2012

    Whatever SEs I may have had on tamoxifen are NOTHING comparied to what I deal with day-to-day as a Stage IV woman.

  • peggy_j
    peggy_j Member Posts: 1,700
    edited April 2012

    Stormynyte, you're right that members tend to post here when they have problems; when things are going well, not so much. I remember seeing a similar thread awhile ago where members w/o SEs tamoxifen chimed in. Maybe you can scroll down or search to find it?

    Prior to taking tamox, I asked my other docs (RO, BS) for their opinion. As my BS said, you can always try it and then quit. (which seemed like the perfect surgeon's answer. They don't get a lot of do-overs for surgery).  All my docs said that it could take 3-4 months for SEs to calm down and that was the case for me. My biggest SE was that I had problems sleeping. Realistically, I was also having a lot of post-Tx anxiety (and was being a control freak on food) so that might have something to do with it. Good luck

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited April 2012

    I've been on Tamoxifen for 2 years now. I'm 52, and my side effects have been mild hot flashes(especially in the middle of the night), increased vaginal discharge, irregular periods, and some muscle/joint pain. Honestly, I couldn't tell you if these side effects are from Tamoxifen, or if I would have had them anyway, given my age. 

    Mary 

  • sweetbean
    sweetbean Member Posts: 1,931
    edited April 2012

    Stormynyte,

    I had some hot flashes and joint pain for about 6 weeks, but then it cleared up.  Now, it's just a little discharge and somewhat irregular periods.  Other than that, it is a piece of cake.  I also take DIM (to help with estrogen) and Glucosamine Chondroitin (to help with joint pain.)  I plan on staying on this drug as long as they will let me.   

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    I took tamox for the full 5 years and really didn't have any significant SEs. thank-you for starting this thread----I hate to think of women not taking a beneficial medication because of fear from what someone else said about it. Tamox, like other medications, will affect different people differently, and you won't know until you've given it a try.

    Anne 

  • bcisnofun
    bcisnofun Member Posts: 488
    edited April 2012

    Hi there - I started tamoxifen in Sept, I believe.  Just like sweetbean, I had some hot flashes and a little joint pain.  At first had a couple other little weird symptoms but nothing that was too difficult and they went away after just a couple of weeks.  Honestly, for me, it's been no big deal.  Sometimes I wish I had a little more in the SE department so I would feel like for sure it's working.  I gladly take it every single day and am thrilled to have it as an option.  I think of it as my anti-cancer pill.  I think I read that glucosamine can be a counter to tamoxifen, so sweetbean, ask your doc to be sure.  I'll take this for 5 years, and then likely an AI for 5 years.  Best wishes to you all. 

  • bethm
    bethm Member Posts: 45
    edited April 2012

    I have been on for 3 weeks now and have had no SE's. I take it after dinner and don't think about it. Have to wonder if people blame tamox for every ache and pain

  • coraleliz
    coraleliz Member Posts: 1,523
    edited April 2012

    I actually like some of the SEs. My hotflashes make me feel warm & occasionally a little sweating. Since I'm a person who tends to be "cold", I find them pleasant. I did have quite a bit of trouble with dizziness early on but that has lessened. Now I just feel like I'm a little bit drunk(can't think of a better way to describe it). But I'm finding that I don't mind that. I also like the dreams I'm having(not at all realistic) & I'm sleeping very well at night(probably better than ever). I'm hoping to stay on it.

  • Beebop
    Beebop Member Posts: 206
    edited April 2012



    I started almost 2 months after chemo. It's been a couple of months now. I had really bad night sweats for about 3 weeks then they went away. I do have joint pain, sometimes pretty bad, but would never decide not to take it. I think I am in chemo induced menopause, so may be switched to an AI.

    I have been taking Glucosamine and have not found anything about it counter acting with the tamoxifen, but I did find a bunch of other stuff, like diphenhydramine which is in Benadryl, cold medicines and over the counter sleep aids. I was taking Tylenol pm for a while before I realized this. My Onc never mentioned anything!







    http://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited April 2012

    Just a quick THANK YOU from me for starting this thread. I will start Tam in June after finishing chemo and after reading the nightmare stories was seriously scared of this. You have all made me feel better about it already :-)



    Jenn

  • Stormynyte
    Stormynyte Member Posts: 650
    edited April 2012

    Thank you all for posting.

    Jennt28 thank you for letting me know that I wasn't the only one thinking there was a lot of scary stuff about it on here. So glad it made you feel better about your decision. I hope it treats you well. :) 

    I'm on my 5th month and its not been to bad. At first there were some Se's, but I think it has leveled out now. Hard to say what was SE's from the Tam and what was Se's from getting a Dx of stage IV cancer. Depressed and moody? Yes I was. Doing well now tho so either way it turned out ok and nothing to severe.

  • Hipline
    Hipline Member Posts: 195
    edited April 2012

    I have been on Tamx for 15 months and SE's have diminished. I no longer have night sweats and only an occasional hot flash. I do take SAM-e for joint pain and feel great. Exercising daily really helps - even just simple yoga or a long walk. But I still count the days until I can say goodbye to it!

  • jwilco
    jwilco Member Posts: 486
    edited April 2012

    I've been taking tamoxifen since November.  Some hot flashes, but I had them prior.  Some vaginal discharge and irritation on the outside area, but I'm dealing with it.  I figure this is the one thing I can do to help prevent more BC, I will do it.  I had leg cramps prior too.  So other than the vaginal issues, I'm thinking the side effects are nothing new.  I feel like I need to be doing something to fight for my future.  If this is it then so be it. I will take it as long as I'm asked.

  • barsco1963
    barsco1963 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited April 2012

    I have been taking Tamo since Aug/2011. The only side effects have been hot flushes (no sweats), nausea and recently joint pain added to the mix. These SEs are tolerable for me and as it is working very well for me, I will continue the tamo until that is no longer the case.

    I would encourage anyone to give tamo a try as not everyone has horrible SEs.

  • Twinmom77
    Twinmom77 Member Posts: 303
    edited April 2012

    Great idea Stormy! With my 1st dx, the Tam threads scared me so bad that I think I manifested half of the se's just by reading about so many people having a bad time. With the 2nd dx, Tam is my only tx, besides a bmx, so I felt I didn't have a choice but to take it. I've been on it 2 months and have had only minor hot flashes, irregular period, and some slight depression but that could be due to being discouraged by me TE trouble and being in and out of the hospital. I could not be happier with the lack of se's!

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited April 2012

    The stories on here scared me, too, but my MO telling me I could always just try it out and also having a higher risk of recurrence, I decided to give it a go over 6 months ago. It is honestly not bad at all! Towards the end of my rads tx, I did get pretty bad night sweats and I missed a period, but I think it was the cumulative effect with rads. The night sweats are nearly gone and so is the extra vaginal discharge. All I have left are the odd warm flushes (not real hot flashes) and some very minor joint pain that might just be impending arthritis (because my mom's started in her 40s). My periods are not 100% regular yet but they seem to be getting there, with no more missed months.

    It is easy peasy for me to take a pill every night before bed, so much easier than driving back and forth to rads every day. If it helps prevent me needing more surgery, rads or chemo - than it is super worth it! Since I started telling people about my tx, lots of women in my life volunteered that they too have taken Tamox for 5 years without any real side effects. If they can do it, so can I and so can you. 

  • Keenie
    Keenie Member Posts: 258
    edited April 2012

    Hi,

    I've been on Tamoxifen for the past 5 years and will finish my course in early June.  I have had the typical side effects -  mild, cyclical hot flashes, foggy thinking, and weight gain of about 15 pounds - since I started.  I am not sure what my onc will recommend when we meet in May, but it will be strange to be "flying without a net"!  I am very thankful to have made it to this milestone, a little heavier and warmer than usual!  

    Best wishes to all,

    Christine 

  • reesefoggy
    reesefoggy Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2012

    I have been on it since January and aside from the severe hot flashes and sleepless nights, I have no other issues. But that did start with chemo.I will be getting a hysterectomy soon so I will be off of it after that but my onco said I will have to take Armidex then.

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